MAG Is A "Tipping Point" For Gamers To Buy A PS3

Buckeyestar
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 12:44:56 PM
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Well, if my coworkers are any indication, it won't sell. No matter how many times I tell them about MAG or to at least try the beta, all they can think of is MW2.

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johnld
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:58:57 PM

Theyre just blinded by how "awesome" MW2 is. But once MAG comes out and theres a lot of people playing then they might pick it up. Although i dont think MAG will sell as much as sony expected but it will sell. I just dont see an online only game will be that much of a draw.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:13:37 PM

Socom Confrontation is online only and here at PSXE i read an article that said Socom Confrontation WAS, the game that had the most online activity among others on the PSN. The reason was is bold is cus im not sure bt i think MW2 may take that away.

So with that said online only games will work. I know the socom franchise is pretty big but still...

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ohmikkie
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:15:55 PM

my friend wasn't sold on it when he tried. but camp of duties are the only 2 games he plays. ever.

nether the less I'm looking forward to it. I wish they could have fitted destructible scenery, like battlefield as well though.

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huskerfan_101
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:53:14 PM

This is day1 for me to, given time to learn the game, and get into a good group that works together MAG really shines.
its very apparent though that it has become cool to hate MAG, I blame Xbots, and MW2 but I put over 100 hrs into MAG I know what I'm doing, how long did all you haters play; once, twice, 2 days. Not long enough to learn a beta with no tutorial.

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huskerfan_101
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:56:57 PM

My friends all love this game, but that first time they played I just told them, "hey, ur not going to understand whats going on, that comes later, just run around and shoot people and you'll start to learn and pick up whats all going on." Worked great for them, there's a lot of info to pick up and understand before you can be a part of the machine. SVER FTW!!!

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 5:44:54 PM

Husker, it is good to get the oppinion of someone who has put in a lot of time to this game. It gives me hope that this game will be worth a darn.

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Godslim
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 7:26:49 AM

im sorry guys but after readying through these comments mag doesnt beat mw2....ive played all the stages of the beta aswell and tbh the main thing it has going for it is the ability to have 256 players if it wasnt for that it would be just another fps

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mastiffchild
Friday, January 15, 2010 @ 1:54:47 PM

No Godsim, no I cannot agree. MAG IS a better shooter than MW2 but, and it's a big but, only when you get a good squad up against another good squad and when that happens it nothing short of magical, imo.

Sadly, that experience is, or was as I haven't loaded up the current MAG nbeta and am going on my experiences in the previous more closed one, a very rare one. I must have played thirty or forty ,matches and it happened to me only twice that I really recall-and I'd remember if it had happened more because it was a great thing when it did?
the issue,sadly again, is down to those playing MAG in ways that the developer didn't want or intend. It's clearly a result of so many people who like shooters liking COD way too muchand, for god knows what reason, thinking what works in that game works in this one too! We had it with the COD babies(and by that I do NOT mean anyone who really likes COFD at all!)crying about the "broken" KZ2 controls which, in fact, were amazingly good, gave a feeling of weight , heft and realism to the guns you used-and they cried about it because they couldbmn't just play it like COD nd get winning-they refused to learn a new skill and besides that failed to imagine anyone else might like a challenge(unlike themselves)and that it actually helped give KZ2 it's own special identity.

It's a similar thing with MAG as people think they can just run and gun or camp the way they do in COD and in MNAG that doesn't just hamper their progress in game but also spoils the experience for others wanting to take their orders and finish their FRAGOS which makes the game incredible rather than a confusing mess which it can deteriorate into quickly with people trying to go all lone wolf on the squad.

Hopefully, MAG won't suffer from too much of the rubbish it gets now(again with comments online that because it doesn't play exactly like MW2 that it's not right in som way-some gamers just won't accept that sometimes, just sometimes, a game just isn't one they're going to like unless they put the efffort in. MNAG isn't a game for the selfish gamer anyway and MW2 definitely is with it's million perks and killstreak benefits, no it's a strictly team based game feeding into the wider onscreen conflict and byond and Zipper NEEDS a lot of gamers around who "get" the game to make it workable. I'm willing to support MAG to the hilt. I'm a TF2 player and have to say that MAG is just as good in it's own way and better in some when it falls into place as, imo, it's a really fair game that rewards clever and skillful teamwork and gameplay from a gamer and his/her squad and platoon.

Honestly, if you liked Socom(through the years) or TF2 and enjoy communicating/listening to your CO and squadmates there's a magical experience to be had in MAG, seriously, and to me it's something far better and more rewarding than MW2 can dream of(as well as being far less buggy and laggy than that online mess even as an ambitiously sized beta!).

Will it sell like Sony imagine it will?Not in a million years but over time if it gets the tight community it deserves for it's amazingly special good moments then it could well be a good seller if a slow burning one as word gets around the Socom massive that it's turning into the game for them as players and squads and brigades start to earn their stripes and understand it perfectly.

No game on console has ever risked as much on growing a strong and committed user base-and it demands gamers actually think a little about their shootr and people aren't all either used or into that imo as they know and think they're good at COD and don't want to learn anything new.

Whatever, I fear lots of the knockers of this game are wrong and that it's actually the gamers not trying or not getting the game how it was intended to be played that hurts it. When people are playing how Zipper try to guide them into playing it it's a better and mopre appealing, more intense and more satisfying shooter than I've played in a long time.

I do think, if one thing could be altered to help this it's the controls(not that they're bad in any way at all)as they're more floaty and COD/Halo like than I thought they'd be(though not the auto-aim pick up and play end of that spectrum but more the generl feel of them in game)and a more studied, slightly slower turning character with heavier aiming would have suited the game more by encouraging people to think more carefully about their shooting and getting more in tune with the goings on around them-but what do I know?

In short then:won't sell a lot right off the bat but deserves to succeeed as a slow burner as the community gets to grow and understand more of what makes the game tick for each other and we lose those who were always going back to COD anyway! Seriously, those few special games are som of my best moments in my gaming life and i'm 37 and was gaming as a 6 year old and have never ever stopped gaming for any time at all in between!

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Geobaldi
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 12:52:52 PM
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After having played it a few times this past week, it's a no-sell for me as well. It just wasn't very fun. And none of my friends really seem very interested in it either.

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www
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 12:53:16 PM
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PFFT! Sony, as much as I love the PS3 and all, we can't expect all your exclusives to be golden, sorry but I think you should be saying that about Heavy Rain or GT5 not MAG.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:00:56 PM
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There is no single player campaign right? Pass.

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sonic1899
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:45:17 PM

is that true? because to me, single player is more important than multiplayer. an online only shooter is hardly a tipping point, especially to those without the needed internet

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:01:56 PM

Sonic, online only from what I have read. I hope it is a success. I don't wish failure on PS3 exclusives. Not sure how well it will be recieved though being online only and a 59.99 price tag.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:15:33 PM

In fact, right on the box cover, in the upper right hand corner, it says "Multiplayer Online Only".

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:14:43 PM

That makes MAG kinda sorta similar to Warhawk doesn't it?

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:14:43 PM

That makes MAG kinda sorta similar to Warhawk doesn't it?

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 5:10:19 PM

and Socom Confontation, which was atleast the most active online game on the PSN!

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HeXeN
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:03:26 PM
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I was playing this the other day and I was pretty much bored to tears.I can say with a straight face that I had more fun playing Haze than this game.I also think it can't be compared to Resistance and KZ2 cause those don't require an internet connection to be fun.

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Silent_J
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:09:17 PM
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not gonna get this on release date ,the beta was ok .Didnt really pull me in.Again its just the beta ,so I hope the full game will be great.

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Superman915
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:11:28 PM
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my guess is that they're trying to push it as what the SOCOM franchise was to the PS2.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:15:59 PM
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I think the game will sell, but not at the level they are hoping for.

MW2 sells for alot of reasons. There is a game mode, and game type for everyone.

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coverton341
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:17:25 PM
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I am sick to death of FPS games to be honest. I mean there are some that are really fun and I enjoy greatly and in all fairness I am thoroughly enjoying MW2. I like the single player and the multiplayer stuck to a winning formula and added some cool new features but I don't need another FPS. What I need is a great driving simulator, some real RPGs, and some more awesome story driven action adventure games.

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HeXeN
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:30:13 PM

I agree with everything you said except the RPG part.Every company wants to have the premiere FPS(like MW2) that everyone plays and talks about, so these companies will continue to pump them out until they have it.

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www
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:38:53 PM

Hexen, actually is MW that brought about all these wannabes not MW2. We heard about MAG after MW's release but it's taking tooooooooooo long and consumers have lost interest, after all, MW2 is out and FPS fans are perfectly satisfied, I don't see any Xbots buying a PS3 just cause of this game, MW2 is enough.

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coverton341
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:54:18 PM

Agreed Hexen but it is an endless cycle of one-upmanship that is going to just flood the market with a bunch of slightly more polished than the last FPS games and it is going to by default start a industry trend to make more of them whereby making this crap commonplace. As much as I stand by my RPG statement I would not want to see this type of thing happen with that genre either and that is my favourite genre of games. When anyone genre takes hold and becomes too big it hurts the industry as a whole. Developers focus on one genre letting others slip all the while the main focused genre gets over saturated and lame.

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Hezzron
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:23:14 PM
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Let's call a spade "a spade" here. This is Sony's attempt at making an exclusive MW clone, minus a SP campaign.

I played the beta, and found it to be quite derivative. And it didn't feel like a bigger online experience than usual.

In its defense, it was just a beta.

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johnld
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:02:23 PM

i think you have to be in a higher level in order to join the bigger games. If you only played a bit then you probably played 32vs32 games.

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Nickjcal
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:50:49 PM

i didnt think it was too bad. Having the surround sound turned up and all those explosions going off was pretty cool. Im not sure if itll b a day 1 pick up but deff later on

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:39:04 PM
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Hello, long time reader first time poster. I have to say that the majority of the time I agree with most of your opinions but I have to disagree on this one. This game is epic in size and fun. I can not get enough of it. I was very skeptical about this game when I heard about it, but after playing the beta I had go out and pre-order it right away. I agree if you are playing by yourself it may not have that "fun" element to it, but with your friends working as a team it just feals like some scince of accomplishment. No other fps out there can compare in size to this. I didn't think another fps could ever get me to stop playing K2 but this one surely did.

By the way Ben I tried to sign up a long time ago but the link never worked for me and it wouldn't let me use the same email. I had to use my work email just to get in today and would like to cancel this so as not to get in trouble with "big brother". Let me know if there is something that can be done about that.

Sorry for the long post, been waiting awhile to talk to this highly intelligent community.

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coverton341
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:57:34 PM

Welcome to the comments discussion section. But please don't throw around praises such as "highly intelligent" some of us (namely myself) already have a hard time getting our egos through the door and don't need any type of boost.

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Alienange
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:05:47 PM

Playing online is tons of fun with friends. You all get to share the same 'war' so to speak. On top of that, you can meet new friends online too. What's not to like?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:51:31 PM

I had the same problem, I had to create a gmail account to sign up here.

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englishgolfer
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:40:39 PM
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got bored of the demo real quick - sadly. and by judging the above comments sony's going to have a hard time selling this one. sorry zipper....

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:46:14 PM

yeah i guess i could say the same for every final fantasy game ever made. "checked it out, got bored, not enough immediate action, this game sucks" But if I was to give it some time I would probably realize there's alot more to it than just killing the bad guy.

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Mamills
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:41:40 PM
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MAG Sucks, played it and its a mediocre attemp at a massive shooter, bland graphics the upgrade system is ok and the shooting mechanics,(im sorry this 1 is of my own opinion) suck
the guns have no kick.

the game just isnt fun to me
so no i wont be getting it, id rather get BC2 its better gameplay (if i were to compare both on the betas so i dunno)

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johnld
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:08:18 PM

i think they didnt mean MAG graphics as a main draw. Its all about the massive online experience, hence MASSIVE ACTION GAME. If you like the gun kick and realism, you better like Killzone 2 than MW2,lol. IMO MAG is a pretty good game. When i played the beta, everyone are actually playing together unlike the mess that Modern warfare 2 online is. Sure modern warfare 2 have matches that work well but its usually a group of people that know each other. In MAG it was more natural to work together even if you dont know people.

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miro_the_cat
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:47:55 PM
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Must be just me! I loved the beta! Found the retro-feel a nice change from the ultra clean, overly slick mw2; found the focus on team play refreshing; loved that teams that worked together did much better; enjoyed working strategically with others with headsets; thought the maps dumped most of that fairness inherent in most fps maps and actually felt like real locations; had some great moments that 'felt' like sp moments; and loved the 'gritty' feel and sense of weight to the preceedings. Day one buy for me. Loved kz2; liked mw2; love what I have played of mag so far...

But it must just be me!

If mw2 is the capitalism of fps (every man for himself), mag is the socialist fps (only together can we prosper)...

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Superman915
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:06:10 PM

lol interesting analogy

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leatherface
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:20:38 PM

M.A.Gnificent! I also enjoyed the beta. See you on the battlefield.

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JPHarvey
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:55:28 PM

I have really enjoyed the Beta as well. It did what I was hoping SOCOM would do. I had fun and want more. They will get my $ on this one.

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huskerfan_101
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:50:02 PM

This is day1 for me to, given time to learn the game, and get into a good group that works together MAG really shines, its very apparent though that it has become cool to hate MAG, I blame Xbots, and MW2 but I put over 100 hrs into MAG I know what I'm doing, how long did you all you haters play once, twice, 2 days. Not long enough to learn, a beta with no tutorial.

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miro_the_cat
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:48:52 PM
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That should have said 'fakeness' of usual fps maps. Overly fussy spell checker at work!!!

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goad
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 1:59:41 PM
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MAG SUCKS very cheap looking gameplay just isnt that engaging

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:10:48 PM

In all fairness you playd the beta if anything...

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Nynja
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:36:34 PM

In all fairness, SOCOM beta didn't address anything.

Even though it was a different developer, it had the main guy from Zipper, Seth Luisi, and the Zipper network development team.

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Cavan
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:09:07 PM
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altho mag is just a beta, with a release date of just 2 weeks away, does anyone seriously think that the beta wasnt more than a test to try out the servers before the launch, the game will be finished and will not be getting any better, the idea of mag is brilliant, 256 players, each wirking with eachother, however too many ppl just run and do there own thing, and dont own headsets(or dont use them) so unfortunatly i dont see this selling to well, but am hoping am wrong.

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SvenMD
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:13:39 PM
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The bigger problem is that it sounds like MAG is supposed to have more of a heirarchey in the game, with a few commanders overseeing different squads, right?? And most online players have difficulty following orders from other online players.

So what you will end up with is a big clan doing everything right, playing against some individual players getting their A$$ handed to them.

Doesn't sound great to me.

And I definitely don't think that this game will see consoles.

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convergecrew
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:13:55 PM
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Wow, so much hate going on about MAG. I definitely wasnt very impressed with it, but I didnt expect this much negativity. Kinda of a shame, since Sony is trying hard to hype this up.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:18:37 PM
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I'm not a fan of this kind of game. No review will change my mind.

I think people are taking a wait-and-see approach, though I think a lot of people are happy playing their Call Of Duty game online. Somehow, that Teen rating might also have something to do with it.

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JackKnifeZero
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:27:59 PM
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Wasn't the beta only 64 player maps? When I played there were only 64 players that were ever playing at once. I think that is why the beta didn't seem huge...because it wasn't. Personally, I loved it and I can't wait to get it and see what 256 players feels like.

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:30:51 PM

The domintaion matches had 256 players, that's where you truly understand the meaning of all the side objectives like taking out a bridge to keep the enemy vehicles from advancing and so forth

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johnld
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:12:36 PM

From what i heard, you had to be at a higher level to access the 256 player battles, that or you get invited by one of your friends at a higher level.

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 6:57:35 PM

yes you had to be at level 10 or join a friend who was already there

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:29:10 PM
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As far as what we've experienced in the beta, I don't see it being the quite the same experience. I mean people just downloaded to check it out. Those that are buying it are more likely to realize the team work needed to be succesfull. For someone like me who is not very good at killing others, I can be highly effective at repairing objects and healing others which in turn greatly affects the outcome of the battle. Some are better at strategizing while others can walk into a room of 10 guys and come out alive. No matter your strong or weak points you can still be effective. It's like when you stop for a moment in Uncharted and just look around at the awsomeness that sorrounds you, the same can be said about MAG. Just stop and look around at all the explosions, paratroopers, helis, hummers all trying to accomplish the same thing(normally), WIN. You get a real since of purpose.

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javon_27
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:05:21 PM

i said the same thing in a previous article. there was a lot of people that just wanted to see what the game was about without any interest in how the game was supposed to be played. Add me on psn: javon27.

I'm planning on getting the game. But I think as soon as BFBC2 comes out, I'm gonna need to trade some games in for that.

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 7:15:04 PM

I ordered it from amazon with the free shipping so I won't be getting it for a few days after release. Which actually works out good cuz they always seem to have some server issues early on plus I'll be out of town for work. I'll add you when I get a chance. By the way did you get in the tournament? I was hoping to hear something by now.

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godsman
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:35:30 PM
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I never liked FPS too much, but I gave this beta a shot. And that's all it took to get me out of getting the game, one shot. With over 100 guns from the opposing team, it is impossible to survive within 30 seconds after respawning.

They truly replicated the atmosphere from a real war, which is easy death. That is also the reason that makes the game boring. There's a sweet point in the amount of players where the time to death is just right. Although it really set the bar for technical advancement, but they really overdid it in the game.

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javon_27
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:07:21 PM

I don't know. If you play this game like MW, then yeah, 30 seconds top. But there were many times, especially in defense, where I was able to stay alive for almost 15 minutes. We ended up losing with 15 seconds left, but I ended up with 30 something kills and 5 deaths.

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johnld
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:15:39 PM

just a tip for you man, You cant play MAG the way you play MW2. Theyre too completely different type of games, imo. MW2 is more of a run and gun type of shooter while MAG is more of a strategy/team gameplay type of shooter. If you play MAG like MW2 then you will die alot.

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:37:12 PM
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This game could have been a TPS and still be just as fun. It's more the idea of having so many people at once fighting for something bigger than just themselves. There is alot bigger learning curve with this game than most online fps, that's a fact.

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 2:48:07 PM
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Anyways, I'm done venting. Thanks for the time, maybe I'll catch up with you guys next time I have the urge to vent. j/k

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:01:11 PM
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This is only coming from the stand-point of a single-mode player, but I'm thinking that Sony definitely needs to bundle MAG with a headset!!!!!

If not, then MAG just might anywhere as big as they think, once people get tired of others that aren't carrying out orders, again, & again, & again.

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LightShow
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:13:57 PM
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people i talk to have never heard of this. when i tell them "its pretty much MW2 with 256 players, and it works with no lag" their jaws drop.

sony, if you want MAG to do what you want it to, advertise the mother-loving hell out of it. nobody buys a ps3 to play mag if they dont know it exists.

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SilentMassacre
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:29:46 PM
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The beta really didn't do it for me. I think this game will definitely have a nice sized following; however, I doubt it will sell too well. There is a lot of room for improvement. If there is a sequel it should be amazing.

I think Sony should try to revamp the Socom series. Maybe a Socom 2 clone with polished graphics will sell quite well.

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Streets_74
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:35:06 PM
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I have a point to make nobody seems to be hitting its the price point, if its sixty I hope it comes with the sony mic the only reason I own socom well that and I thought the game was going to be epic not. I think price could be between forty and fifty dollars with out a mic, that could sway some people into buying just to try it and find its a damn good shooter. As far as game play, when I first played MAG in October I was like whats going on here what do I do and nobody would talk to the new guy (COD players)so I thought about giving up on this title because the whole game is based on team work, but I couldn't stop playing it. Now on my second game I was in a room with some Socom players and they actually explained to me about the fragos and such. Now this is something I can get into, and I love the ranking system and squad leader stuff, it works well when you learn that it nets more points for you and your team so I hope we can get some competent leaders and we will be alright.

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johnld
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:22:10 PM

thats true but you cant really blame sony for avoiding this herd mentality. I mean if sony is selling a AAA game for under 60 bucks, people usually think that it wont be the AAA game that it is just because its at a lower price point. It is usually the standard right now that the cheaper game is usually the lower quality. If noone knew what god of war or even final fantasy is then its sold at about 40 bucks then compared to Halo and Modern warfare 2 games, they'd think halo and modern warfare 2 are the cream of the crop. Although MAG is online only but a drop in price could result in having the idea of a second rate game even if its not true.

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Bigtuna1
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 7:01:26 PM

i believe they are bundling it with a mic in europe

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:35:31 PM
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M.A.G. is awesome-sauce.
But pretty damn hard, it's like a MegaMan version of Call of Duty.

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Deathb4Dishonor
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:47:34 PM
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I think the game looks great and the action wasnt half bad either... ppl seem to forget that its a BETA... but in the final version you'll have more weapons, vehicles, etc... it'll remind you of bad company, only with 256 players at once... i don't kno about you guys, but that sound awesome

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 3:58:17 PM
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Not sold on it yet. But I'll keep an open mind. The beta wasn't the worst I've played, but certainly felt like it was lacking.

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johnld
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:11:06 PM
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This game should have the playstation 3 bluetooth mic bundle. I mean, this is the game that would really benefit from it.

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Darwin1967
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:47:56 PM
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I'll rent it...after playing many, many hours on the BETA I became less and less enthralled by the game and was too focused on it's shortcomings. Gave up on the BETA, so I will wait for the final...give it one last chance to wow me. Honestly though, I don't think it will be a huge seller...word of mouth is pretty powerful, and so far this is game is getting luke warm reviews at best.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 4:58:54 PM
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I'll wait too, granted I didn't get too involved with the beta. Thing is if they let this sucker grow like LBP and keep adding maps then it could be a big seller over a massive length of time and could keep going for years with new maps and dlc.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 1/13/2010 4:59:17 PM

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 5:19:04 PM

Im just saying and im not saying itll be better or as big. MAG is going to be the next counter strike.

In terms of how big the action is and if it pulls through the negatives it could be a huge game for reasons you have given above.

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CrazyIrishBoy
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 5:23:08 PM
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When does Ireland get it? Cos we arnt part of the mainland or the UK....

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tlpn99
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 5:24:36 PM
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Not even gonna bother getting it after playing the demo. Everyone I have spoken to who has tried it is not getting it either. It was a disappointment nice idea just didn't do it for me though.

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SaintX
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 6:22:28 PM
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I love this game.
I just dont know why, but I think the scale of the game, and the potential of the game really draws me. This open beta has the Sabotage map which is 64 players and we keep playing over and over again. Surely those new comers to this game will feel bored and thought this game got no variety. See thats the problem, the 64 players map is not the only game mode offered by the public beta. You guys need to hit lvl 10 in order to qualify to play Domination mode which is the 256 players map, thats the time you guys can see whats the real meaning of Massive Action Game. Everything is so havoc and crazy and thats the best part. The whole point of the game is teamwork really. Even one squad can cause the whole team to lose. For example, when playing 128 or 256 maps, each squad is responsible for its own bunker. If one squad sucks, and let enemy blow the bunker, then that area of the map will become the weak link already. Thats where enemies all start to come in and take out other bunkers from behind and then it starts out a chain reaction, where they will take down the AA batery, the gates and other important stuff. For me, thats how I appreciate the game. If every single person in the game knows what they are doing, and follows orders, this game will be super intense. But of course, its impossible to get everyone to work together.
I know this game the animation and graphics are way inferior compared to KZ2 or MW2, but for me, its more of appreciating the chaos of the war zone, and feels more like real life war, where everything is just crazy and havoc. In most games, in the background you will hear like bombs and gun shots, but those sounds are all fake in the sense that the sounds are generated by the game itself, but not players actually doing the sounds. In MAG, every gun shot, or bomb sound you hear, is the actual sound of players firing their gun or throwing bombs. What zipper is trying to do is to let players immerse themselves in a battlefield, to experience the craziness and epicness of a real warzone where you have bullets flying around, enemy bombers dropping bombs, players parachuting in and most important of all, working together as a squad, as a platoon to win the war. What zipper intends on doing is providing us an experience as close as to a real war.

I know alot of you guys might not have reached lvl 10 and decided to give up on the beta. I understand the 64 player map can be boring over and over again. Thats what happened to my friends as well. But when they got into Domination, their perception towards the game totally changed. They were overwhelmed by the epic scale of the war, the intensity, and the importance of working together. This game can no way be played the same as MW2, in fact it requires more skill to play MAG than MW2, one of the reason is if you want to win, you need to move your ass around, you need to work together with your squadmates to achieve certain objectives and you need to follow orders. You will most likely not win a game or have the most kills by just camping.

Overall I love this game, whether eventually I will get bored with this game or not, remains to be seen, depends on how the developers continue to support the game with DLC or not. As for now, I thoroughly enjoyed it, but not without a few moments of immense frustration though. haha.
However, I hope you guys would give MAG a second thought, try to understand the experience that Zipper is trying to provide us. It is a very ambitious project by Zipper but it is by no means a bad game. There are alot of flaws in this game, but I believe Zipper will rectify them with patches, by receiving feedbacks from the community. Yet, this game has really alot of potential. This is the first time any game developer has attempted on doing anything like this, so I hope you guys could at least try to support it. By doing so, we are actually helping to drive the gaming industry forward by encouraging developers to innovate. If games like MAG or Heavy Rain are actually great games but falls short of sales expectations, game developers will be reluctant to take risks on developing new IPs or they will be afraid to create innovative games.
For starters, it might get frustrating at first but just give it a few try to adjust to it then should be fine. But if you guys really don't like it, then I guess MAG just doesn't suit you guys. Honestly, I don't expect alot of people to like this game though. I can only advise to be patient while playing this game and to follow objectives.

Last edited by SaintX on 1/13/2010 6:30:53 PM

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carl0975
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 11:11:13 PM

I actually thought that the graphics for mag were pretty damn good, kz2, mw2, and U2 are just very hard to top, and many games get unfairly compared to them(besides, none of these games even support so much as 64 player matches, let alone the 128 and 256 player matches)

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swapnilgyani
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 3:02:12 AM

Now that's...one helluva long post

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MysteriousMagus
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 6:23:48 PM
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MMMmmm
The game still doesn't convince me. With the massive 64 player battles on Resistance 2, the cheap deaths and stuff. Imagine 256 that's just too much. It's hard keeping up on 64 people game imagine a 256. But since the maps are huge I guess that won't be much of a problem.

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Alienange
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 6:35:16 PM
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I remember when the boats from mainland Europe to the UK were a lot faster.

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FlyingKickPunch
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 7:00:16 PM
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i bet this game will get it's own little following, and will sell decent.
one other thing, how come FPS is the only genre where we have people commenting extremely aggressive things like, MAG SUCKS!! MW2FTMFWMF!!!11 but this rarely ever happens at all with any other game genre. i may be wrong, but it seems to be a trend, i noticed.
for the record ill be getting MAG, i liked the beta. the raven maps were pretty cool, fighting in the jungle, and i liked the shadow effects. and no lag, which amazed me. should alleviate any FPS urges i get this winter.

but then WKC and SO4 come out...and well there goes all my gaming time :)

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Geobaldi
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 12:03:22 AM

I see somebody likes BlazBlue. Or at least the artwork for it.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 7:26:51 PM
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@FlyingKickPunch, I like your avatar~~

I'm not sold on the beta.

*Go and sit at the "Wait and See" section*

Last edited by Snaaaake on 1/13/2010 7:28:28 PM

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Cholo Gamer
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 7:48:42 PM
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It's my B-Day today and I think I'm going to buy this game with the money I got.

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carl0975
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 11:06:46 PM

I know that I am definitely getting mag, after watching about 2 hours of gameplay videos, I believe that this may be god's gift to PS3 gamers.

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SILVERAMMO
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 8:20:32 PM
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was gonna get this but my ps3 died on me and dont know what to do

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 10:28:00 PM

fix it

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Cholo Gamer
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 11:05:10 PM

Send it to Sony and you pay 164 for the repair unless you got warranty.

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DarkUnHoly
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 @ 11:51:22 PM
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for those that have played mag in its beta form, ask them in truth the age has to be 23 yrs and up to get a true response, the game has a great concept but the actual truth is no one is going to play the game in the way its intended. the graphics are as good as turoks, and when i made this comment before we had 1 yrold kids crying foul. psn is still not as good as xbox live,(believe me that hurt my feelings saying that but its true) this game will not be all that its hyped up to be trust me. the beta was an extreme disappointment and it wasted 2gb of space on a hard drive for crap. i mean the controls are awful the graphics could have been a whole lot better. and the sound is laughable. MAG will waste ppls hard earned money and it will be traded back for half or less of what they paid in its 1st 2 weeks.

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___________
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 12:21:10 AM
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that is the biggest load of hogwash i have ever heard!
sorry sony but i would be more likely to buy a ps3 for Hanna Montana! than mag.
i think there forgetting most people who play these types of games are hardcore PC fans, and this certainly is nothing new to them.
to consoles its a revolution, weve never seen so many players in one game but the PC well they look at 256 and laugh their heads off!

please zipper.
PLEASE! just go back and make us another socom game.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 1:34:58 AM

I think you misunderstood what the article included. Sony is saying this game is the tip of the ice berg more or less. Sony's consoles have never been about the FPS' but now with KZ2, and Resistance, and now MAG they have a great line up of FPS. MAG could be that game many people look at and say ok i want something new, fresh, big, great online and the likes of an FPS. Oh theres MAG for the PS3... SOLD!

I do agree though, Zipper needs to bring another Socom! YES!

Last edited by bigrailer19 on 1/14/2010 1:36:23 AM

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___________
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 6:52:34 AM

well, actually i guess it depends.
watch a video of MAG it looks so fast paced and fun, watching it makes you want to play it, but playing it does not have the same effect.
i guess it could bring in new customers if they have not tried the beta.

theres a million and one titles they could of released that would of had a much larger impact than MAG.
but theres a million and osyphon filter of socom to name a few.
when people go out to buy a system new IPs are the last thing people going for.
im sure its safe to say 99% of people interested in buying a ps3 has either owned a ps1 or ps2 so they should be fairly familiar in its established IPs.
so when buying a new console thats the first think there going to search for.

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swapnilgyani
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 3:45:49 AM
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There are literally thousands of PS2 owners out there who want to upgrade. These are gamers who know the superiority of PS3 over the competition, and are not even considering any options other than the PS3. However, they are just waiting for that one, special, irresistable release. It's God of War 3 for a couple of my friends, and Gran Tourismo 5 for another one.

And I have to say that it's not just the exclusives either. As a PS2+PSP user and a fanboy, I knew which console I was going to own next, but was the cost was too high, and also the fact there didn't seem to be good enough games for it in general, and that one, compelling game in particular that'd tip me over (now I know how wrong I was). Grand Theft Auto 4 tempted me a lot, but the machine was too expensive back then. Ultimately, it was when I saw the early gameplay footage of Batman: Arkhum Asylum that did it for me.

Cheers to great software, to go with this gem of hardware!

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Robochic
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 5:31:55 AM
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Still up in the air with this game, but we'll see. I enjoyed the BETA.

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tanner1
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 6:53:41 AM
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Not sure on this, seemed like i was firing a water pistol not a gun. How come Europe mainland gets releases b4 the U.k? I thought the reason games come out last in Euro was because of the languages yet the U.k spawned the English language and we get games last.

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Richy
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 8:55:06 AM
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hello ...

it took me 4 days of 5 hours/day download to get the beta.

on my 512 - 2 Mega Max connexion, i didn't suffer any lag. i still haven't a headset so was weird hearing others interacting, while i was just another human bot in the pack :( ...
but even if i don't really like the genre, i felt like quite interested in M.A.G, felt same for KZ2 demo & now i want to try BFBC2 demo ...

so M.A.G can't be that bad ...

we'll see, i surely hope it works for Zipper, i may try again the beta (if it's working) & decide...

cheers!

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Highlander
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 10:26:42 AM
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MAG seems like an MMO version of the first person shooter genre. I'm not sure how you evaluate it against other games in the FPS genre.

Having so many players online at once allows a different style of play because you literally have enough players for about 4 platoons (up to 32 players per platoon) on each side of the conflict. Each platoon can have several squads (4-6 squads of 5-8 players). This allows the platoon and squad commanders on each side to set tactical and strategic objectives. The game isn't a straight free for all shooter, it's truly a squad and platoon tactics game.

It almost seems like a first person RTS game in a way because all the players have to think of objectives beyond their own survival.

I don't think that a game like this has really existed before. There have been attempts, but from my understanding of the game, this is a first. It may take time for gamers to wake up to that. Not only that but the hardcore FPS player who cares more about his KDR than he does his own family will have to completely re-think their approach. They may not even like the more team oriented goals.

Last edited by Highlander on 1/14/2010 10:28:04 AM

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 12:42:20 PM

I dont see MW2 fanboys going for MAG. Those guys care about kills. But for some one like me who loves MW2 but know its at fault will gladly open my arms to the type of gamestlye MAG brings.

I wasnt entirely pleased with the beta, but that doesnt mean I wont enjoy it. People have to realize it is a team based game, and mics are a must. With out communication your setting yourself up for failure! I really want this game, i really do but i might wait til all my roomates can get it also so im not alone. From my experience in the beta, i never got into a game where every one communicated and it always turns into a mess.

But I think playing with my roomates will turn that around! This game has the makings to be great. As I said before it could be the next Counter Strike. It might take awhile to get there, but if gamers realise how massive and the potential of this games longevity is with dlc, and maps, and it being a huge FPS MMO, this game could possibly rule the PSN.

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dzabava
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 3:56:43 PM
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I didnt like the beta much, i´ve seen better like 2 years ago with the Bad Company demo, i loved it the campaing sucked (for me in that game) but the multiplayer was one of the best i´ve seen for a fps, next to cod4 and better than the codwaw, and with that beta it doesnt seem MAG would be paired or better than those. The gameplay is ok, the respawn time excessive since you have to walk a lot after it, the sound and sensation on the weapons are not good, the iron sight are almost useless and difficult to get used to (sniper is fine), explosions are extremely pixeled at distances and other elements too.
I havent bought mw2 yet and with Bad Company 2 coming and maybe a new MOH, i find no reason to buy MAG, the name sounds kinda dumb, if i dont like the multiplayer, the campaign doesnt offer any better in this kind of games, previews dont look that good and that beta.... is the less expiring point of all (waste of time downloading those 2+ gigs). I could be wrong but i wont find out myself (or not yet), i'll let that part for the people who will actually buy and review this game.
Regarding the tournament, the winning price is great, so bad my country was not eligible and that i dont feel like playing this beta or being good at it. (tell me about and armored core tournament, then i´d be excited as i am with ac5 coming)

Last edited by dzabava on 1/14/2010 3:59:48 PM

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PaiNT_kinG
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 11:41:04 PM
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i tried the MAG beta more than 3 times and i gotta say its the next Haze IMO,basically a mediocre FPS shooter with a gimmick(256 multiplayer)

MW2 FTW

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NetheRealm
Friday, January 15, 2010 @ 5:10:18 AM
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As a MAG Beta Vet I can honestly say that waiting 10 seconds to respawn & 5 more seconds to die & another 10 to respawn is not exactly "much more accessible to everyone" nor was it any fun for me. Maybe if you're an FPS pro who has only played Halo until now & you're looking for a new challenge MAG might give some Xbot's reason to buy a PS3 but I don't see it as a major system seller.

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DeathOfChaos
Friday, January 15, 2010 @ 9:26:45 AM
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All FPS games are "much more accessible to everyone" because it's a genre that takes only the ability to walk about and shoot stuff. Yeah, it is great they can get 256 players in one area, but really, that's about the only accomplishment here. lol. The 360 is a console that can only do FPS games it almost seems, and then the PS3 comes up with a game called MAG that shows they can even outdo them, lol. Epic FAIL for the 360 AGAIN! XD. Even though it's going to suck along with all the other games used in same over used game genre.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, January 15, 2010 @ 12:07:10 PM
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Pretty much the only thing I will hate is when people go off wandering around and don't know what to do or team killing. If you stick with your people and follow instructions the experience could be alot better.

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King James
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:17:51 AM
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Glad to see some ppl liked the beta, because I was bored outta my mind playing that thing. R2 & K2 beta's were much more fun IMO. Unless MAG's gameplay mechanics change drastically in 2 weeks...I'll have to pass on this one. *Sad face*

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redant
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 8:29:58 PM
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well word on the street is, MAG is weak. not even like warhawk its gonna dive big time. So stop selling it as the next big thing, it aint.

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