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ESRB On Nier: "Fountain-Like Cascades Of Blood"

We've already given you our Nier preview but sometimes, the ESRB's detailed description that accompanies a rating offers even more insight into the look and feel of the game.

Not surprisingly, Square-Enix's adult-oriented action/RPG has received an "M-Mature" rating from the ESRB, and according to the full explanation, there are plenty of reasons to hide the kiddies in this one. Square-Enix isn't exactly well known for controversial depictions of violence and other questionable content, but after seeing and hearing more about Nier, it seems clear their "Westward push" won't include moogles. At least, not here. The ESRB talks about how the game is played and what the characters do - as you can see - and then gets into the nitty-gritty:

"The dense fountain-like cascades of blood (along with the language) factor highly into the Mature rating: blood will spray, cascading and arching—sometimes in slow-motion—across the battlefield when creatures are attacked; blood also stains the ground, covers characters (one in a white dress), fills up a sink, spurts. The aforementioned language is strong, often employed for comedic effect rather than profane slur: "f**ks, "a*sholes," "bullsh*ts," and "sh*t hogs" (a comrade questions the validity of the word) get sprinkled in the dialogue. And throughout the quest, a hermaphrodite character (female traits emphasized) wears a revealing outfit that exposes most of the buttocks, in most of his/her scenes; depictions of jiggling breasts and deep cleavage are applied to various female characters as well."

There's that hermaphrodite reference again and we already knew about the strong language. The copious amounts of blood is a tad surprising, just because we still have difficulty equating that feature to Square-Enix. I know they're no longer Squaresoft and I know they also have Eidos and a new direction under their belt these days, but...aren't these the same people that gave us the relatively wholesome Final Fantasy titles? Yeah, there was some cleavage but this is little shocking, ya know?

Related Game(s): Nier

1/16/2010 10:33:16 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (59 posts)

WolfCrimson
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:51:38 AM
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Ah well, I'm not sure they wanted to just make games with non-adult themes forever. Adding a little variety is good, as long as they don't screw it up.

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Oh wait, we're talking about Squeenix here? So this is why FFXIII is ruined, huh? For fountains of blood? Those sh*t hogs! Gimme my moogle!

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:45:10 PM

Too late, up has already been screwed.

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LowKey
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 4:05:46 PM

LOL

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godsman
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:14:36 PM

I thinks it's a bit sad that their definition of Westernization is to add more blood and gore. It's sad and it's true at the same time.

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:56:12 AM
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shet hogs, what kind of word is that...
Hearing the sound of this article it doesn't sound much like a game I would buy, with all this revealing hermaphrodite stuff, dun rlly compare much to titles like FFX, even though it isn't in the same style.

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Feregrin
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:28:49 AM

It's not meant to be compared to the likes of FFX, haha.

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rossinator_99
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:56:35 AM
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not only is it shocking, it's a little disturbing as well. i can just imagine myself thinking "that's a hot girl" and then realising it was carrying some heavy duty hardware...

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Oxvial
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:16:33 AM
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they are triying too hard to do something that they aren't good.


fuu this game

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Feregrin
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:27:16 AM

Say that after you've played it. It's their first "serious" or "mature" game, you don't know how it'll end up.

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Oxvial
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:12:50 PM

a girl talking like a cheap whore and fountains of blood isn't serious or mature.

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Feregrin
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 1:09:35 PM

Mature or not it's a game being made for the adult audience. And how do you know the story isn't serious?

You kind of contradict yourself, talking of how an immature game this is etc. etc. when you yourself use stuff like "fu" and "cheap whore" in your posts. >_>

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 1:51:54 PM

@feregrin,

You pick at his use of language, but you don't counter his point.

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Oxvial
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 3:42:42 PM

Feregrin you are trying to pick a fight with me or what?

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Banky A
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 4:08:02 PM

Cool it Oxvial.
^_^

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Juanalf
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 11:22:52 AM

You are all wrong.

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lMephisto
Monday, January 18, 2010 @ 9:16:49 AM

Want to make something Mature? Give us something only an Adult mind can understand, and we will be happy. I can stand cocky characters, like Dante... but mindless swearing is just boring, and it really kills the "experience" being plunged into the game. On the other hand, bring the blood! :P

When the devs understand that Mature isn't something strictly related to your age, Mature games will be different

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JackC8
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:25:41 AM
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"depictions of jiggling breasts and deep cleavage are applied to various female characters as well."

Hmmm...this just moved up a couple of slots on my wishlist :)

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fluffer nutter
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:26:31 AM
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I'm loving this onslaught of adult games.

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oldmike
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:30:43 AM
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i hope this bombs BAD

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Mystearica
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:54:08 AM
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Well I'm definitely buying this game... 'cause 1- I'm RPG PS3 starved... and 2- I'm an adult and I dun mind swearing or one's sexual orientation. 'Cause frankly most RPGs while playable by adults, are geared towards the young. Also realistically, these issues (for example swearing) are very common despite how much people look down on it (and I am in a medical field too).

Anywayz, the thing is I'm glad there are adult geared RPGs since almost all adult games are just plain shooters/action oriented games

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:43:51 PM

Fountains of blood, gratuitous swearing and odd sexuality do not an adult or mature game make.

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Feregrin
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 1:24:56 PM

@Highlander: It's definitely not meant to be played by kids at least, so what audience does that leave? That's right, the adults. Blood & gore, lots of swearing and a dark story (we barely know anything of it but apparently everybody seem to think it's non-existent) is stuff only seen in adult games.

It's an action RPG made by Squeenix, Nier has the potential to be one of the better RPGs on the market aimed at adults so give it some slack 'til we actually have enough information. I bet I wasn't the only one who was skeptical about Batman: AA (since practically every other Batman game is crap), but look at how it turned out. You shouldn't judge a book by its cover as they say.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 1:49:18 PM

@Feregrin

I'm not saying it's supposed to be played by anyone other than adults. The point I am making is that in order to make a piece of entertainment that is intended for grown ups, you don't have to add fountains of blood, gratuitous swearing and questionable sexuality.

If anything gratuitous swearing is a sign of immaturity, as is a gleeful desire to see fountains of blood. I'm not sure that playing the titillation card with a hermaphrodite character that's skimpily dressed is particularly mature either.

These things do not make a game mature - as in grown up, they make it mature as in requiring an M rating, that's all.

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Feregrin
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 1:53:35 PM

You'd be surprised how many adults are immature. ^^

Either way I don't really care if there is blood or swearing, I want the story to be good and that the gameplay is at least enjoyable. Time will tell.

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 12:01:46 AM

How many adults here play or have played Ratchet and Clank? Just because it has gore and swearing doesn't make it a great adult game.

Some could argue that Mario is a great adult game because of the nostalgia and multiplayer. Heavy Rain is a great adult game because of the story, not just cos it has violence, blood spray, swearing or partial nudity in it (which it does, but it's not the drawing feature)

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Qubex
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:34:10 PM
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Is that so; that seems rather rough!

"Nier" looks like it is breaking all the rules, huh?

Q!

"i am home"

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Deleted User
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:40:40 PM
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Nier could be a pretty good game but this need to make it M-rated to appeal to Western audiences makes me pine for more games like White Knight Chronicles and Valkyria Chronicles. How many more M-rated games do we need?

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:43:07 PM

It's like making a movie and deciding to add extra gratuitous violence and swearing to ensure an 'R' rating. Pointlessly offensive content.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:42:12 PM
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Well, looks like the only Square Enix published title I'll be getting this generation was not even developed by them, but by Tri-Ace and only published by Square Enix. Star Ocean 4 for FT-JRPG-W.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 12:59:30 PM
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The Japanese don't like guns and blood....

Wonder how this will do over there
Blood doesn't influence me at all (so if squeeenix thought we'd all get it 'cause of that, then lol@them)

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SnipeySnake
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 1:53:54 PM
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Just wondering why this is adult themed. Can someone tell me whats adult about it? o.o

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SnipeySnake
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 5:00:53 PM

Thumbs down. That was a stupid question.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 2:22:15 PM
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Ummm, all I have to say is I hope she's Post-op ;)

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Orvisman
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 2:44:35 PM
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The developer is Cavia... 'nuff said.

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ExhumeART
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 3:56:32 PM
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I have no problem with any of these new found features except for the hermaphrodite. While many of my friends are confused about their sexuality, unless these characters play a key role in the story and how it unfolds I see them as unnecessary. Granted, I will have to play the game first, but as of now the additions made to this game in general seem rather gratuitous. Of course these things are present in some of the best movies ever conceived, but copious amounts of blood, swearing, and a plethora of sexually confused characters with enormous breast do not equate into a game of the year. While I have no direct issue with these being placed in the game, I see them as unfit for the gaming world. More blood, sex, and profanity do not make a gaming experience better unless done so in a new and artistic style. Nier has just moved down my wishlist. Oh well.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 4:16:34 PM

"While many of my friends are confused about their sexuality"

No offense, but this is ridiculous. I can't even begin to get into it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 4:54:39 PM

His friends go both ways.

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ExhumeART
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:01:53 PM

Haha that was actually a mistake on my part. I meant to say that a few of my friends are homosexual, rather than many being confused. My apologies, although I doubt anyone actually read what I posted anyway.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:46:26 PM

@badnoodles

You'd be surprised how many people read hear, and how many who comment here actually do read both the articles and comments before posting replies.

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 12:06:32 AM

Amen Highlander...

When not working or playing games, if I don't have the energy to do anything physical, I jump on here and read the latest news and check out people's opinions.

This comments section is very interesting to people like me, which is everyone here by the looks of things.

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Banky A
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 4:09:17 PM
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Wow. I'm now more excited to see how this game turns out.

Cool man, cool.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 4:41:29 PM
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Hm... So I'm guessing that this was majorly male infulenced huh... They just keep coming and coming. Where are the female influenced games these days? We're deprived!
Lol anyway, it sounds like they're trying to one-up Dragon Age, seeing as blood plays a major role in Dragon Age. Square-Enix took the idea of, "Oh look at all the adult themes in Dragon Age! They're racking up the money! Get ready for a knock off guys! We're so in on this money roll..."
Don't get me wrong though! I love Square-Enix and we've all been a little RPG deprived until Dragon Age came around, so why not one more?
Bring on the blood "fountains"!

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 12:10:08 AM

Are you the type of "Gamer-Girl" who like female lead characters, or doesn't mind so long as the gameplay kicks ass? If your opinion is the first option, then Baynonetta or FF XIII are good new releases.

As for games that kick ass, I've got my money on Mass Effect 2, Heavy Rain and God of War 3.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 12:42:37 AM

@Dancemachine

Lol yeah female lead characters are always awesome, but that isn't quite what I meant. With all the women on this game being every male's fantasy, and I quote: "depictions of jiggling breasts and deep cleavage are applied to various female characters as well."
Why can't us girl gamers have a bit of some male sexiness like they do female sexiness? Does it hurt to put a few shirtless, half naked as well, guys in the game? But, I guess that won't be happening this game around.
We'll just have to see the drooling of the males continue... Slobs xD

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 12:44:49 AM

@Dancemachine

Oh, and on another note, if the gameplay kicks ass, I have no problem dealing with all the cleavage and such... Gameplay's good, we're all good!

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H8WL3R
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 7:17:44 AM

Please let me start off by saying hi Gamer Girl Gemo and it's refreshing to see a girl gamer. Not that there aren't others, although most of whom I know are more into the Wii (like my mother and sister). In fairness though in my opinion the Wii does have some fun and decent (to very few great games), but I digress.

I too tend to agree most games appeal more to hetero males. I guess to some bi males/females "depictions of jiggling breasts and deep cleavage applied to various female characters" would likely be just as appealing too. So there is much to be desired for the sexually orientated hetero women and homo men in terms of sexually appealing characters or character objectification.

Now in closer relation to the topic at hand, yeah I do think this is a different direction for Sqare-Enix based on what they released thus far. As others have mentioned (and as generally viewed) maturity isn't usually associated with: incessantly swearing, craving/performing brutal acts of violence, being publicly scantily clad and flaunting ones physical attributes and/or sexuality gratuitously. I tend to agree with this as well. I would like to see some more variety though as well as a wider spectrum in characterization overall, including but not limited to physical attributes and sexual orientation.

I don't know much about this game, but it does seem somewhat interesting and I'd likely give it a try (being a demo or someone I know who'd have it).

If you're read all this thanks for your time and attention. Peace and later.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 4:33:14 PM

@H8WL3R

Hello to you too! Thanks for the agreement and such and I also agree with your whole "As others have mentioned (and as generally viewed) maturity isn't usually associated with: incessantly swearing, craving/performing brutal acts of violence, being publicly scantily clad and flaunting ones physical attributes and/or sexuality gratuitously. I tend to agree with this as well. I would like to see some more variety though as well as a wider spectrum in characterization overall, including but not limited to physical attributes and sexual orientation."
True, couldn't have said it better myself, and to the point! I'm also extremely anxious to see how this game will be and how it will turn out. So far, I'm going to buy it as soon as I get enough money... Oh, how I wish I wasn't poor...
On another note, there do need to be more girl gamers! It can get kinda lonely! Lol and the Wii is okay... Doesn't have the greatest graphics, but they focus more on how great the game needs to be rather than graphics. Which we need a whole lot more of these days! (Except Uncharted 2, they got the whole lot!)

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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 6:06:09 PM

Gamer Girl Gemo,
Hmmmm, I wonder that if any game would have what you'd like, maybe it could be Heavy Rain?

I'm just saying....seeing as how they want to keep it real true to life & full of mature content.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 8:47:54 PM

@BikerSaint

I expect nothing less than the finest for Heavy Rain! Seeing as they're saying Heavy Rain is supposed to beat Uncharted 2's graphics. Hm... Hard to imagine, but I know we'll all be blown away by the quality of the storyline and the graphics itself.
And thank God it's NOT limited by becoming a multiplat!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 4:56:32 PM
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Bouncing big'uns are never a problem with me.

I think it might turn out okay as long as people don't take it seriously, like Bayonetta, it is clearly meant to be so lame it is cool. Kill Bill was awesome and look at all the unnecessary blood in it.

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Alienange
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 9:58:21 PM
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This sounds like a game for low-lifes. The ESRB makes it sound that way anyway...

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kokoro
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:18:50 PM
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Wow the way I see things square enix should move their headquarters to a western country. It would be the next step for them since all their endevours point to their desire for westernisation. They should also force all their employes to have their names legally changed to western ones. Let's see, Tetsuya gets to be called Max- yes that's a fitting name for such a talented artist. Nobou gets to be called... oh wait! he has his own company now, he can stay Japanese. And then after that they can build Mcdonalds and KFC inside their headqaurters- to complete the transition you know.

But none of this can be done before they stop making beautiful games (which admittedly was some time ago) and start pumping loads of gore and violence into their new games.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 10:48:06 PM

All they need to do is hire some space inside the Redmond HQ of a certain large software company...

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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 11:37:58 PM
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@Highlander,
Would that be Microsoft, or Roto-Rooter????

Oh snap....they're both company's that immerse themselves in shit!

So either way, it's still the same ole shiiiiit.

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Highlander
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 1:18:23 AM

I think we're sharing a mind on this issue....

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just2skillf00l
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 1:51:24 AM
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I'm anxious to see how this game turns out.

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Yukian
Sunday, January 17, 2010 @ 11:04:03 PM
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What makes a game mature? To me is an incredible story and great gameplay along with a few other things. It doesn't really matter if it has excessive blood, extreme violence or anything else; just look at MGS4's Raiden and Vamp fight... it was epic.

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D1g1tal5torm
Monday, January 18, 2010 @ 4:36:21 AM
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M rated games are the section of games that have done the best in the recession.

So, it's no surprise to see devs jumping on the bandwagon in trying to secure their own piece of the lucrative pie.

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Vagnor
Monday, January 18, 2010 @ 2:41:44 PM
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This post is about an ESRB rating. This is saying what is in the game which parents and the like may not want their children to see, or whatever. It is NOT an explanation of the game as a whole. Stop bashing it for what it has in it. There are copious amounts of blood in the movie 300, and it was absolutely amazing. Would it have been as amazing without the blood and graphic detail? No. When used correctly, these mature aspects of a game can enhance the gameplay, just as a movie's mature content can enhance the viewer's excitement and enjoyment. When I chop a 50 foot monster in half and there isn't blood flying everywhere, I ask myself, "Where is all the blood? Did they just censor this? Lame." Realism is key. When you chop something apart, blood flies everywhere. That's what happens.

As for the hermaphrodite, well, I am assuming it is put in for comedic value. When people these days laugh at stuff like Borat, South Park, Family Guy, etc., I'm pretty sure the presence of a hermaphrodite in a video game won't offend your delicate sensibilities. As for the breasts... Men like them, women like having them because men like them, and if neither of those are true, then you are either homosexual or asexual. The majority of us aren't. That's why advertising uses them, that's why girls pick having bigger breasts when creating avatars than picking smaller breasts, and that's why whole genres of pornography are dedicated to them. Is it a necessary addition to a video game? No. Will a large amount of people enjoy it? Yes. That's all that matters.

Please go read a review of the game before picking it apart. Or better yet, play it first. Even Mario could sound bad from an ESRB rating.

- Sean Casey

P.S. This is targeted at the people making comments here, not the author of the original post. I enjoyed the read, Ben. :P

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