Final Fantasy XII Sequel, Fortress, Briefly Resurfaces

LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 9:36:06 PM
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I had no idea this was going on. FF12 is one of my favorite FFs. Why the hell would SE outsource the sequel? This is terrible news and another reason I haven't been playing many SE games this gen.

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napoleon85
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 9:49:07 PM

It is indeed pretty scary to see SE outsourcing projects to other parties. However, I saw the video and thought it looked pretty good given its early developing stage. I'll be definitely looking forward to this in the future. Great news!

PS: SE, please don't take 3 years to finish this project.

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JofaMang
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 9:51:33 PM
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I greatly enjoyed FFX-2, it was a game my wife and I were able to play together without getting on each other's nerves. Plus the Death Knight Dress Sphere was totally badass. The unlocking of dress spheres reminded me somewhat of the unlocking of classes in FFTactics, and nothing relative to Tactics could ever be a bad thing.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 9:54:53 PM

Death Knight RULED. And I know Paine was totally cliched but I liked her. The similarity to the FFT Job system kinda helped, too. ;)

FFX-2 was great. I will FIGHT anyone if they say otherwise. LOL

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 1/27/2010 9:55:31 PM

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Mamills
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:35:38 PM

lol "DEATH KNIGHT DRESS SPHERE" (Nuff said)
sorry Ben we gonna have to fight i think i broke X-2 out of anger.
GOD that game SUCKED!

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:37:20 PM

Mam you're crazy. It had a lot of depth in terms of the fighting. Also I really enjoyed how the story went from rainbows and sugar to more adult themes.

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shadowpal2
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:57:36 PM

I loved FFX-2! THAT WAS MY first Final Fantasy ever. Later on I decided to get the rest - FFX, FFXII, FFVII: Crisis Core, FF Tactics: War of the Lions, then all the PSX FFs.

I haven't gotten to many of them, but can't wait to either!

But FFX-2 was a sort of Kingdom Hearts II experience for me. Does anyone understand what I'm talking about?

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Qwarktast1c
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 2:47:41 AM

THANK YOU!!! finally some people who actually LIKE FF X-2!!

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Ultimadream
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:38:02 AM

FFX-2 was your first FF game.... well thats just silly as the game itself.

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Arvis
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 8:13:44 AM

I really can't help but feel like people who didn't like FFX-2 just suffer from an undersized brain.

There is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING bad about that game. Everything about FFX-2 is awesome: combat system, job classes, storyline, non-linear exploration, characters, ending, secret dungeon... you name it, FFX-2 nails it.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, of course, but if you didn't like X-2, you might want to get your brain measured. You just might be an idiot.

-Arvis

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 8:49:19 AM

Arvis you're hardly ever around but when you decide to pop your head up I can't help but get lost in your eyes.

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Arvis
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:09:11 AM

Yes, they are quite lovely aren't they? :D

I'm not normally so opinionated, but I've grown rather defensive of X-2 over the years...

-Arvis

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darxed
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:18:28 AM

FFX-2 did not suck... I still remember the Shuyin melody, I think It was one of the best pieces in all Final Fantasy history... and the connection with FFVII was so well done... the beginning was really fruity but a couple hours into it and the game picked up the pace just fine. The only FF I have not really liked is XII, because of the story and poor character development, so a sequel would not interest me... I haven't play Revenant Wings yet for that same reason...

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:23:12 AM

I think the hate towards FFX-2 is the cliche of super-macho zero-tolerance femiphobe gamers rearing it's head. The ONLY thing about the game that isn't traditional FF, was that the entire party was women, as opposed to a mix. With that being the only differentiation, it is easy to assume that someone who hates FFX-2 but praises FFX, MUST fall into the previously mentioned cliche group, that, when realized, have a much louder voice than their minority stance should allow. Like republicans, they are full of hate, and want others to be filled up with hate just like them. These are 13 year old racists, 45 year old perverts, rednecks of all ages and sizes, the SUPERMALE that they always envisioned themselves becoming constantly being chased from lead character in one game, to lead character in another, until eventually one day they find themselves logged into world of warcraft, playing as a female toon, selling textual favors for some gold, or a nice piece of gear.

It's so tragic, I almost care that these type of people will never truly enjoy some of the best games made, because of the standard cliches they obsessively need to fuel their game-centric testosterone production, almost.

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Ultimadream
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 11:01:12 AM

Well for one thing i hated the Dress Sphere system, changing clothes in battle.... come on really....i know its a fantasy game, but, heck thast just silly. I also found the story to just go off on its own dull way, then on the rare occassion it would suddenly burst back with the tidus lookalike, there was no need to play this game, the ending was the only real interesting thing that related to FFX's story and to get that you had to get 100%, which was a dumb idea, i doubt very many could do that without a walkthrough.

Then the characters,oh my. See i liked Yuna in FFX, Shes noble and brave and tame.... FFX-2 literally assulted her character as i've phrased many times before, and it never fails to get my point across:

Yuna: Oh poopie.
Rikku: Yunie, don't talk like that.
Yuna: I'm just copying you!

What horrid, dialogue. It shows how Yuna is now lost all her old redeeming qualities, she's just dependant. It took me a while to start playing FFX-2 after that, i was furious.

And before i get replies saying " oh you just dont like it becuase you playing as girls." That's rediculous, Its not that they're female, what bothers me is just how immature they are, its just annoying, its forgivable having one cute, cherpy character in a cast like Yuffie,Selphie,Eiko,Rikku... but a whole cast, sure Paine seems like the butch silent type, but she had many cringe worthy moments. I f they werent so immature and stereotypical girly i wouldnt have mind.

I do applaud it for the active battle system, it was very nice to seem them move around the screen and i like the system on how you equiped your accessories, but battles without Aeons.... thats just upsetting.

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 12:12:12 PM

I stand by my experience with the large amount of gaming friends I have, who took an instant dislike to the game, and voiced their opinion vociferously. These sort of reactions motivate sheeple to be me-toos, and undoubtedly, like many other products with a very vocal minority dissent, was harmed by this in its total sales potential.

If I could turn back time, I would be willing to bet every dollar I ever made, that if the game was made with dudes changing jackets, it wouldn't have such a vocal opposition to it.

The fundamentals of the game are sound, as a FF title it stays true to certain RPG elements. Being an even numbered FF, it experimented as well, mostly successfully. To knock the dialogue is downright silly, since FFX itself has some of the very WORST writing and voice acting since such metrics became important, yet FFX is still a heavily loved title, maybe not close, but probably a second to FF7 for total love from FF devotees.

FF games have always evolved and moved forward, there has never been a replicated battle or advancement system between titles. That this game was so hated for what EVERY FF game has done, and much worse in other cases (FF8's dramatic departure from set level creatures for one example) can only be attributable to the stereotypical vocal femiphobe gamer, who will only play lead female characters who look barbie with guns, supersluts or Conan the Boobarian.

Anyway, I've exhausted my opinion of the topic, and shall retire to start a new game of FFX-2. I am skipping FFX on my ritual Final Fantasy archival playthrough that I attempt, usually successfully, before a new title is released.

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Arvis
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 1:27:03 PM

Ultima, I'm going to assume that you played maybe half of X-2. Because if you gave the game a fair chance at all, then you wouldn't have such a problem with that dialogue.

In fact, that exact dialogue is a perfect example of why the story is so great! Yuna is trying so hard to be a completely different person than she used to be, and she's naturally attempting to emulate her cousin and close friend Rikku, who she sees as happy and care-free.

After growing up in a world that existed under the shadow of Sin, they would naturally take advantage of the new freedom that they (and everyone else in existence) have, and their attitudes, demeanor, and style of dress reflect this.

Despite Yuna's efforts, however, she makes a pretty bad girly-girl, and she knows it towards the end of the game. She can't fill the gap in her life that Tidus left behind with fun, adventuring, and pop music. And the way everyone in the entire world looks to her for guidance and leadership creates a strain, one she tries to fight but always grudgingly comes to accept.

Really, it's a simply fantastic story, brilliant in both concept and execution.

Like I said... brain measurings are in order.

-Arvis

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OPHIDIAN
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 1:32:44 PM

I second Ben completely here, FFX and X-2 are my 2nd and 3rd most favourite games.

@Arvis:

You got to understand that:

1. Not everyone likes RPGs full stop.
2. My lecturer is a gamer, there is no way he would dress people up.
3. The game had high expectations being THE first ever FF sequel.
4. The game had a lot to live up to: FFX (in my opinion, the best FF ever)

That is not an exhaustive list.

@JofaMang

Lol, you're writing in a forum, chill. Let me guess you are studying English. :P

Last edited by OPHIDIAN on 1/28/2010 1:51:48 PM

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 2:19:36 PM

My first degree (in journalism) is a decade old. I am now working on my second (political sciences) with an intent on obtaining a PHD in PolySci eventually. I can fire off 1000 words, editted, in less than an hour if I need, and if inspired to discussion, will lose myself in making my point. I can't stand the minimalist approach so many people take to debating on the internet, so I make sure that every argument I make is sourced and explained. I love healthy invigorated debate, and am pretty sure I am not the only one on this site who occassionaly writes an essay. :P

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OPHIDIAN
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 5:29:39 PM

Innocently stating the intent, or a duel of intellectual ability: with all due respect, I am sure you are not the only one here with an educated background. I have a Law degree and I am currently studying the Bar Vocational Course to qualify as a Barrister by July (in England). If the need arises, not only can I write a plan (of around 500 words) within 20 minutes, I can also prepare a cross-examination of a witness within that time. Debate, therefore, is my second nature, yet you don't see me writing essays.

Tips:

"Being an even numbered FF, it experimented as well, mostly successfully."

Sense? You have used a bracketing comma here, I notice you use these often. However, if I try to remove the words in between these commas the sentence should still make sense:

"Being an even numbered FF mostly successfully."

As you can see, it doesn't.

Read the following quote:

"That this game was so hated for what EVERY FF game has done, and much worse in other cases (FF8's dramatic departure from set level creatures for one example) can only..."

You cannot start a sentence with 'that.' Secondly, you use brackets instead of bracketing commas this time, but this doesn't make sense if the brackets are removed:

"That this game was so hated for what EVERY FF game has done, and much worse in other cases can only be attributable to the..."

Hope I've helped. :)

Last edited by OPHIDIAN on 1/28/2010 5:44:54 PM

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 7:06:18 PM

I would not instigate a duel of wits purely for the purpose of doing so, I might have a sizable ego, but I am not a maniac. I am confident enough in myself to limit my discussions and arguments to topics which interest me. In this case, I spoke my mind about what I have percieved over the years as a strong trend between dudes who hate FFX-2, and their general attitudes towards women and femininity.

Easy example:
"lol "DEATH KNIGHT DRESS SPHERE" (Nuff said)"

I chose to challenge this view, hoping to be enlightened with an explanation for distaste of the game outside of having to play as a bunch of girls. I have not been satisfied.

I followed a post by Ultima, which was damn close in length to my own, which was followed by another lengthy post from Arvis. I didn't see any snide comments about the length of their posts. Thus, I have to conclude that it is your disagreement with my specific opinion that has lead you to try minimalize my presentation by taking a stance of non-validation through non-response, and focusing on trivialities instead of the message.

To each their own, you have a career in the legal system. This approach is not really surprising, or overly endearing. But we don't talk sh!t on the internet to endear ourselves to each other. Yes I started a sentence with "but", no I don't care.

I totally understand your approach through obfuscation though, focusing instead on the creative liberties I have taken with the english language instead of trying to actually discuss the topic. In your business, creative liberties can cost you your career. In my former career (I haven't been a journalist for a few years now) I was applauded and awarded for my creative abilities. It is natural that our written methodologies don't mesh, considering the background they came from.

If you want to talk games, we can talk games. If you want to wave your IQ Peen in someones face, go to work. At least you will get paid for it there.

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OPHIDIAN
Friday, January 29, 2010 @ 9:49:09 AM

You're right, I do get some kind of gratifying pleasure from falsifying others theories and demystifying their flaws. At the end of the day, that is my profession.

A dispute of intellect was was first considered in one of your posts. I, and as I do for many other people, was only defending myself against someone who was challenging my intellectual abilities by expounding their own.

Do I object against your opinion of FFX-2? Isn't the answer axiomatic? Of course I do. The whole purpose of this forum is to discuss and perhaps debate opinions. I am merely serving its purpose my friend.

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Arvis
Friday, January 29, 2010 @ 10:22:08 AM

Er... you guys done measuring each other's brains yet?

How 'bout them video games!!

-Arvis

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OPHIDIAN
Friday, January 29, 2010 @ 12:38:09 PM

Just a bit of fun Arvis, its things like this that reassure me that I want to pursue my career as a lawyer.

I really enjoyed both ffx and x-2, but I can competely understand why some may have not like ffx-2. Why people wouldn't like ffx is beyond me.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:19:02 PM
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I did see this vid about a week ago, unimpressive and it looks more like an early build of FFXIV.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:23:45 PM

Looked good to me...
Though, it's hard to judge it based on environments

If they showed towns or some cut-scenes, then we would have a better grasp of the design-direction

Though, I don't blame you. What was shown was pretty bland

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piratedrunk
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 3:23:14 AM

bland is definitely the word I would use to describe that video.. at least in their defense it looked like a very very early build

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 5:36:14 PM

yeah it does look early, God knows who that hulking man is.

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piratedrunk
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 8:34:17 PM

kind of reminded me of Sloth from the goonies

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Oyashiro
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:22:58 PM
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Hopefully its nothing like that other crappy sequel to XII, Reverent Wings.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:26:36 PM

Have you played it?

I have, and that game was a gem!
Just because it was an RTS/rpg hybrid doesn't mean it wasn't good.

They did a great job of introducing a new story and mixing it with the past.

Though, why didn't you like it? "Trusted" sites gave it good reviews

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Oyashiro
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 12:45:57 AM

I honestly don't care what "Trusted" sites give as reviews as its all subjective.

I disliked the random difficulty spikes and the hollowing of the gambits. For a SRPG with 3D backgrounds the lack of the ability rotate the camera was annoying as was the lack of in-battle saving on a portable system is simply bad game design. I found the touch controls to be iffy as well.

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Oyashiro
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 12:57:45 AM

Then again I disliked FFXII a lot. So the idea of anything related to it never will sit well with me, but I gave the game a shot as I love SRPGs and RTS games but felt so underwhelmed by the game.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 12:59:26 AM

If you're going to enter a battle (specially story based), you're expected to know what you're getting yourself into (at least an hour of battling in some cases). It's not that hard to predict...

Rotating screens?

It all sounds to me like you're trying to make the game easy...

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Oyashiro
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 1:26:19 AM

All RPGs on portable system need to have some sort of quick-save features. Its the nature of the device they are on. If a developer expected for you to play a battle for a hour strait on a portable device with out the ability to quick-save, thats just poor design as a DS has on average 5-7 hour battery life.

No, I'm not trying to make the game easier. I'm trying to make it more bearable as it would help see all the enemies. I could understand if the battlefields where 2d but they are not.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 1:40:16 AM

"Bearable"

Isn't that just another way to imply that you want to make the game easier?

I beat the game, moving the camera wansn't necessary.

In fact, I will turn on the game tomorrow and find out if you can move the camera or not. From what I remember, youc an move the camera ALL OVER the field (letting you see all enemies), but I will double-check.

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Oyashiro
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 1:59:18 AM

No, It would make it more enjoyable. Why are you so hung up on me wanting the game to be easy? There where to many times objects on the field obscured where characters where. Rotating the screen would fix that. You can pan the screen, but that doesn't help when a giant archway is taking up half the screen and characters are underneath it.

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Arvis
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:10:50 AM

The DS makes everything crappy.

....er... sorry, carry on, forget I was even here.

-Arvis

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:28:58 AM

::Walking around with my Arvis tracking device::

"I found em boys!"

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Arvis
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 10:06:01 AM

What!? Gimme that thing!

-Arvis

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:28:38 PM
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Would love to see a sequel to FFXII. Hands down one of my fave FFs

GRIN wasn't a great company. Though they did a good job with Bionic Command: Rearmed (not the 3D one they made. The 2D remake of the original)
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FFX-2 was lovely! People are just butthurt that Yuna acted like a female

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Sypho
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:34:27 PM
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So is this a PS3 or PS2 game? It didn't seem to be mentioned in the article.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:37:38 PM

PS3, 360, and PC.

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Alienange
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:38:32 PM
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As long as Vaan isn't in it. The picture you chose for this article shows exactly why I hated him as the main character.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 10:44:37 PM

Bad posture? I always had a party made up of him, Basch, and Ashe.

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:50:28 PM

What's wrong with Vaan in the picture?
My party was Vaan, Basch and Penelo! Bests friends forever. BFF's and BFFL's.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 12:03:59 AM

LOL! BFF.... you're such a kid

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:08:44 PM
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Vaan was original at least
He was like the "traveleing hero"

While Balthier was the real hero (he's my fave. Damn cool character right there)

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:47:49 PM

Bartz in FFV was 100% a traveling hero, also.

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Ultimadream
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:55:11 AM

Balthier is what kept FFXII going for me, he was the only character with interesting depth and personality.

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Arvis
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:22:36 AM

They all had interesting depth and personality.

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Vaan - struggling war-orphan with an inferiority complex chasing a dream, like so many RPG characters before him.

Penelo - the "everyman" character, nurturing, fiercly loyal to Vaan, whom she feels very protective towards, to the point of putting herself in harms way.

Balthier - father went insane, became a sky pirate to escape but was drawn back into the world he ran from via a combination of circumstance and his own true heart.

Fran - an outcast from her home and her people, yet pretends not to dwell on her past. Loves Balthier more than anything, and on this account has abandoned her former life.

Basch - old war veteran wrongly accused of murder and conspiracy, seeking revenge and vindication.

Ashe - The Princess, but far from helpless. Went underground and faked her own death when her kingdom came under siege. Fighting with everything she has to free her country and people.

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So... what exactly is uninteresting about any of these character types?

-Arvis

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:33:03 AM

The Balthei/Fran dynamic reminded me very much of the Cpt. Mal/Zoey dynamic in firefly/serenity. That unmutable and instantaneous full fight in response to a threat to the other, and a lazy, carefree attitude when the threat isn't really that bad. Fun stuff.

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darxed
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 10:01:32 AM

What's not to like about the characters? that their personal development takes about 15 minutes of the game and then it's never to be seen again... What are Penelo and Fran doing in this quest to save the world? well they're there to protect their man! what is Vaan doing there? "Well I have nothing better to do so let's go kill some monsters with these guys!", same with Balthier, at least up until the part when he knows Cid is behind a lot of the stuff going on, He didn't have a motivation to go on the quest. The story of the game is a Stars Wars ripoff at best, and most of the time I found myself backing Vayne's ideas instead of Ashe's... What is so wrong with letting mankind find It's course? and why is one massive invading country better than the other massive invading country? And speaking of which, why the hell can't you go to Rozarria? You can travel all around the world but can't go to Rozarria?

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michiganfan1983
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:09:57 PM
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FFX-2 was a very good game, but only had an ok story. The whole dress sphere grid was pretty cool.

Anywho, I would love to play an FFXII-2, I really enjoyed XII. Well I hope that SE does have someone finish this game, I know I would give it a try regardless of it being a straight action game. Hopefully it would turn out better than Derge of Cerberus did.

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b3mike
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:18:17 PM
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Nothing wrong with FFX-2. The combat system was sick. All of the endings were underwhelming though

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:49:38 PM

Edings?

It was one ending

(you just get to see them all if you get 88%, and a bonus at 100%)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:36:24 PM
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X-2 had the best ATB yet, lots of action. I didn't mind giving Lablanc that massage either.

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Qwarktast1c
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 2:48:21 AM

that was one of the best parts of the game lol ;)

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napoleon85
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:49:05 PM
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Although XII's story was very weak and limit breaks were a bit stupid (in my opinion) but fun to watch, I really enjoyed it overall. It is easily the best looking ps2 game up to date.

By the way, I thought it'd be cool to see a FFVIII spin off based on Squall's life as an undergrad student or going way back and remake the chapters when S. Adel ruled Estar. Perhaps doing missions appointed to Garden students before they become SeeDs, Triple Triad online, HD Graphics... Please excuse me, I just finished this game and haven't been able to get over it :P

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:51:17 PM

No worries. Good times..

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Ultimadream
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:36:16 AM

If there was an FF sequel i'd like to see it would be FFVIII, but FFVIII was pretty satisfactory, you dont want to open holes with spin offs.

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darxed
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 10:06:49 AM

Yeah, the game was really good at tying loose ends, a sequel could ruin that... I'd love a remake though, imagine Rinoa in full HD? The Laguna story was planned to be FF IX if I remember correctly but Square found that the public wasn't that interested in Laguna, as I am also... I still can't decide which remake I wan't more, VII's or VIII's...

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___________
Wednesday, January 27, 2010 @ 11:59:46 PM
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huh, i remember just after GRIN closed they released some "concept art" that was suppose to be from a FFVII remake.
i had really high hopes for bionic commando and they really screwed it up.
loved bionic commando rearmed that games a classic especially since they added trophy support.
all they had to do was make a revision of that, how hard is that?
something so simple and they destroyed it, how can you take a half man half swinging gun slinging superhuman robot and make it boring?
never thought that would be possible, till i played bionic commando.
further proof that old games are always better than new ones.
you cant improve on perfection.

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dragonx_HD
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 2:52:15 AM
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FFX-2, much like Twilight, was targeted for teenage girls. It makes me wonder how a grown man could like either LOL.

Last edited by dragonx_HD on 1/28/2010 2:55:39 AM

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 3:06:16 AM

What the hell are you talking about. FFX2 had far more depth than most RPGS released during the PS2 era. Evidently you couldn't look past the pop music to see the adult themes and stellar gameplay.

Oh and congrats on having an asterisk next to your championship.

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:25:46 AM

Indeed, saying that FFX-2 was made for teenage girls is like saying that brad pitt only makes movies for teenage girls. One would have to know absolutely nothing about him, but make assumptions on the surface based on their own prejudices and shortcomings.

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ffrulez
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:20:27 AM
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I loved FFX-2, the only thing i didn't like about it was that you were forced to do the better ending just so your party was strong enough to face the final bosses.

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Dante399
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:29:24 AM
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well i can say this: I liked FF12...but a lot less than any other FF RPG.

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Ultimadream
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:33:49 AM
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Oh i really hope this is not true, I'm sorry Final Fantasy XII was the biggest disappointment in gaming history for me, i just couldn’t bear the thought of another 80 hours of blandness, If they do this, i won’t be buying it, simple as.

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darxed
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 10:19:49 AM

Yeah, same here... I really hated how the build up beginning was so good and had so much promise and then... well nothing... I honestly thought there were at least another 20+ hours left of the game's story when I went to the final battle... I kept thinking, "well It can't end yet, I haven't been to Rozarria yet.." and then you kill Vayne and the credits roll... What makes me laugh is that now people are criticizing FFXIII for being more like X than XII and calling it a step backwards... sheesh... when I heard that XIII was a lot like X was when I knew I had to get It... X was at least tied for the best RPG in the PS2, the console with more RPGs of all...

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bridgera
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 12:22:00 PM

Oh, is that what the reviews have meant about XIII? That it's a lot like X?

I guess thinking about it, that seems more true now, it just wasn't clicking for me when I read those reviews.

Well that's fine then, X was awesome.

XII sucked (for a FF game, it's an ok normal game).

Why would anyone want to sequel XII? Hell, why would anyone want to play through XII a second time?

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spiderboi
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:34:29 AM
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I liked FFX-2. FFXII was a different story. I played through all the sidequests, and by the time I was done, I completely forgot what the story was about so I just stopped playing. Sad.

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nilos95
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 7:11:08 AM
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I saw the video earlier(yesterday) and I can say that it looked good!

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nilos95
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 7:42:42 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iluOhtGVg0&feature=related

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cowboy828
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 7:36:05 AM
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I am tired of sequel and remakes just start working on final fantasy 15 or kingdom heart 3 okay that is what i really want.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:19:19 AM
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Hope this sequel is a good one.

The only flaw in FFX-2 was that it was too short, in fact, TOO DAMN $%#@&#% SHORT compared to other FF.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:30:27 AM

You sure about that? I spent well over 100hrs on the game doing all the sidequests and the hard ass secret dungeon.

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Arvis
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 9:39:56 AM

Not if you do everything! The length is comparable if you do more than just the main plot chapters.

There is a TON of optional story in X-2.

-Arvis

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dragonx_HD
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 11:01:28 AM
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It wont let me reply @ LIMITED
it was sorry. Whether it has good gameplay or not, it was designed to bring more females into the series, and congrats on your ability to insult someone who happens to disagree with you. Thought this board was civilized*

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 12:45:41 PM

Disagreement can be civilized. Getting all pouty and emo about it is civilized too, in a junior high atmosphere, anyhow.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:54:58 PM

How did I insult you? You mad an absurd statement and I pointed out how ignorant your comments were.

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dragonx_HD
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 1:50:18 PM
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Wouldn't know about that havent been in jr high for a veeeeeeeery long time. :) LOL

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dragonx_HD
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 1:57:44 PM
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heres some school for you:

emo: someone who is depressed, sometimes wears black, and usually wants to die. None of which apply to myself, and from what I can tell, doesnt apply to Limited so, what the heck are you talking about? LOL

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 2:23:57 PM

"...and congrats on your ability to insult someone who happens to disagree with you. Thought this board was civilized*"

It's the freakin internet. You telling me you weren't being all pouty and emotional about someone disagreeing with you on the internet? Limited might be harsh at times, but is mostly very civilized and enjoyable to read. Why don't you head on over to destructoid or any of the hundreds of fanboy sites that THRIVE on conflict, insults, and "Yo mama" comebacks. Then you might have a better perspective on what civilized public internet discussions are like. This is one of the best, if not THE best PS3/Console websites around sites.

Does that clear up your confusion?

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 3:57:24 PM

Jofa you should have taken the high road. He's not worth it.

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:41:48 PM

That was the high road, hah. The alternative probably would have had ben warning me for something or another, so I thought I did pretty good.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 4:53:27 PM

I'm just just pointing out your comments fall on deaf ears. He wont get it, it will just annoy you.

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JofaMang
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 6:28:06 PM

Haha, annoyance was already achieved. That was probably for my own benefit more than his (I'm no altruist). I really don't like people slagging off this beautifully balanced and interesting community. While yer picture is pretty, yer no damsel in distress~

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, January 28, 2010 @ 8:29:34 PM

If you're a dude that can ride a horse we may have a future.

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TEG3SH
Friday, January 29, 2010 @ 8:47:23 AM
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i really hated FFX2 i really really did im not homophobic , but that game sucked arse(lil pun there ). and why ppl are so sensitive these days ???
U SAY SOMETHING DOUCHY U WILL GET INSULTED FOR IT.
live with it

a demo :(because i knw u wont act like a bi*** for it)
limited ur a retard(hangover version ;) ) see not a big deal ( hopefully )

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 5:12:19 PM
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square and simple: if this has nothing to do with RPG, then it is nothing to do with me. I mean, this is ridiculous, FF game has nothing to do with RPG, what is it then?

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