Square-Enix: FFVII Remake Would Be Extremely Difficult
See Full ImageThe idea that Square-Enix is currently working on a remake of Final Fantasy VII may survive amongst the die-hard fans but in reality, it just isn't happening. Let's face up to facts.
S-E never talks about it much but when they do, it's always something bad. In a recent Ultimania magazine interview - summarized at The Lost Gamer - it seems that Motomu Toriyama, director for Final Fantasy XIII, directly referenced the difficulty in making a FFVII remake happen. By now, we know the reason there are no towns in FFXIII is due to the difficulty in creating fully-HD towns for the PS3, and this can be related to a FFVII project. Said Toriyama:
"This issue is related to whether a Final Fantasy 7 remake will happen or not. It is very hard to make games on PlayStation 3 in the same style as the games in that era had. Making graphics will take enormous time."
We've actually heard this before. Several years back, when Yoshinori Kitase was approached with the same ol' question, he tried to get the interviewer to understand just how much work would be involved with a FFVII remake. S-E has always said it would be a downright massive undertaking, one that could take a huge amount of time and require a gigantic amount of resources. ...we still say they'd make all that money back but perhaps we're wrong. Either way, it's just another sign that the long-awaited remake just won't happen.
2/3/2010 8:57:15 PM Ben Dutka
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to_far_apart
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:08:55 AM
I'm still going to keep hope alive and say there will be a remake at one time, it's just something they know will sell. I'm pretty sure they know the potential sales of such a highly anticipated remake could equate.
So I'll keep on acting like none of these updates have happened and act like a remake will soon come lol
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Akuma07
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:34:44 AM
Whats the dev time for a game these days, 3-4 years?
It may be difficult, but wouldnt it prove once and for all that Squeenix is still master of RPGs?!?!
Come on squeenix...im not buying it.
I still think they are just blowing smoke.
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www
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 6:43:54 AM
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DeathOfChaos
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 9:59:14 PM
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michiganfan1983
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:54:30 PM
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BikerSaint
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:04:04 PM
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And if so, how much harder could that be than writing a lot more code?
But no matter what, code or not, if SE took their time, I'm sure they still could do it.
I mean look, just how many people keep begging them for it.
I'm not a RPG'er, but even so, I can see it's a no-brainer.
Some things at SE are starting to reek of pure unadulterated bullsh*t lately.
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NoSmokingBandit
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:16:37 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:22:35 PM
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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 2:47:12 PM
I'd love the exact same FF7 in HD. Just update the character models and give everything a good makeover. I dont care if its still 3d people on a 2d backdrops.
Though to be honest, theres not a whole lot SE says that i believe any more.
Last edited by NoSmokingBandit on 2/4/2010 2:47:35 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:06:24 PM
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Nobody else is having trouble making HD towns in their PS3 games.
Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 2/3/2010 10:08:59 PM
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NeoHumpty
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:28:47 PM
I don't think that if they would remake it that they should make it fully 3-D, anyway. Just up the original graphics a bunch, add voices and a ton of new Materia and weapons to mess with. Haha. Both kinds of Weapons.
Oh. And a friggin' HUGE Golden Saucer with all the original FF's on arcade machines. Or at least a ton of snowboarding. I rode the hell out of that game.
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archs13
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:00:20 PM
i haven't kept up on anything final fantasy XIII since it lost its exclusivity on the ps3.
Last edited by archs13 on 2/3/2010 11:01:27 PM
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telly
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 10:04:50 AM
For the record, mark my words, this game WILL get remade. It may be another 10+ years before it happens -- all those HD towns sure are gonna take a LONG time to program ;) -- but it WILL HAPPEN.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 2:34:30 PM
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main_event05
Friday, February 05, 2010 @ 3:24:29 PM
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SnipeySnake
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:10:50 PM
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Scarecrow
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:18:06 PM
The excuses they come out with are retarded though
Hopefully FFXV will remedy this wounded franchise
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mexgeo86
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:19:42 PM
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Nlayer
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:42:15 PM
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I would love to see a remake of Final Fantasy VII, but I would also love to see a remake or sequel to Threads of Fate. But I know that will never happen...
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Alienange
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:53:22 PM
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Nah, they chose the easy route and re-released it as a PSOne Classic.
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Scarecrow
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:54:13 PM
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And you can even populate your towns however you want.
Furthermore, players will be able to visit other player's towns 24/7
Yet, Squeeeeeeeeeeeenix can't make towns
Pathetic
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Sunni_Boi
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:22:27 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 2:33:46 PM
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archs13
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:56:12 PM
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well, actually i can't blame them because the public and the gaming media probably asks questions about it all the time when we all have the chance.
i think they should just put a gag order on themselves regarding final fantasy VII remakes. don't get me wrong, i would love to have them release a final fantasy VII (or even VIII, and IX) remake... but it seems that we're asking for a mere fantasy to be made reality.. and that's final.
lol lame joke.
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SmokeyPSD
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:57:27 PM
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AceTatsujin
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:59:21 PM
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RE-MAKE FINAL FANTASY VII ON THE PS3 PLEASE. DUN BRING IT TO THE 3-FIX-ME.
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Oxvial
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:59:31 PM
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hmm damn.
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Scarecrow
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:08:32 PM
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orangpelupa
Saturday, February 06, 2010 @ 6:23:34 PM
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cLoudou
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:11:12 PM
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SE prepare for a Big Daddy courtesy of Ben Dutka.
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Hezzron
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:22:03 PM
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Didn't Assassin's Creed do HD 3D towns? Sure, the FF towns are a little more fancy and flashy to match the boys that prance around in them, but c'mon!
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Mr Bitey
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 10:54:25 PM
FF VII only needs a few cities and they do not have to be that big.
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DaNgerSteVe
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:27:00 PM
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tes37
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:44:03 PM
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Naztycuts
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 11:49:54 PM
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HEADLINE- FF 13 sales lacking FF 14 now a FPS!
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michiganfan1983
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:09:31 AM
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I know most people don't think much of dtoid on this site, I only read it to laugh at most of the stupidity. But yesterday one of their people posted a ten things I liked about FFXIII from his play through of the Japanese version of the game and today he will post a ten things I disliked about the game. I found it to be pretty informative and he did a nice job of not spoiling anything by going in to details. If you have been turned off by what has been said just give this a read as it address some of the major conserns that people have been worried about and then check out the other list later when he posts that, if you enjoyed of first list. I love psx and am not trying to push anyone over to dtoid, because it is a big fanboy head butting site but this I thought was worth the read.
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SvenMD
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 10:20:18 AM
It kinda goes against most of the press that we've read about this game.
Guess I'll have to wait till later today to get the things he didn't like.
I'm still psyched about this game and will get it no matter what anyone says.
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Sol
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:40:01 AM
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___________
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:44:50 AM
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might as well give up now guys and watch TV all day.
o, wait thats too hard to.
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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 1:26:24 AM
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chedison
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 4:30:09 AM
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Banky A
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 4:34:25 AM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 1:29:07 AM
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I don't think that it's because they are not trying, but it's that they haven't been educated on new formulas and structures for creating games like Western developers.
Square-Enix continue to use old formulas on new games and consoles, kinda remind me of Valve in a way.
It's not really laziness, but either stubborness or a fear of change. Western developers have accomplished unbelievable creations and some Asian developers like SE haven't caught up with the trends. It's sad really.
If Assassin's Creed 2, GTA IV, White Knight Chronicles and many other games can do HD towns, then why can't SE? Like I said, they're just making up excuses and complaining about things that other developers understand as required for video games these days.
They either need to learn from Western developers and apply these new skills to JRPG's, or hire new programmers and developers from the west to help them. Such a shame to see SE go from the biggest and greatest developer on earth to a mediocre, substandard game developer. A real shame, I loved Square in the 90's and early 00's.
Last edited by Dancemachine55 on 2/4/2010 1:29:46 AM
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Beamboom
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:06:07 AM
But if the case really is "hd or nothing" then I'd say "so what"? I think things look more than good enough in lesser resolution...
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___________
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 7:16:14 AM
$E have absolutely NO! excuses.
its not like were asking for the whole game to run in native 1080P 60FPS or something.
if AC2 can do it $E can do it.
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Beamboom
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:01:06 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 1:37:44 AM
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SuMtOnE
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 2:03:20 AM
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bridgera
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 3:04:01 AM
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FullmetalX10
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 4:29:44 AM
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It would be awesome, but only if it were to be PS3 exclusive, would definitely buy it if it would come out though.
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Akuma07
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:36:00 AM
Try to force Squeenix's hand with some extra moola if you know what i mean
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bridgera
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:12:43 PM
The style of the game is already set and designed to be on 3 discs, it's not like they would have to reduce the quality of the game so that it could be on the 360 and thus limit the PS3 version.
Let them put it on 3 discs for the 360 like they did with FFXIII.
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chedison
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 4:32:27 AM
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totozero18
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:06:21 AM
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Dante399
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:07:54 AM
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www
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 6:49:25 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 7:07:47 AM
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www
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 9:11:38 AM
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gumbi
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 8:09:40 AM
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This whole thing could have been avoided ages ago if they'd just said at the beginning that they aren't doing a FFVII remake because they don't want to. Instead we're getting excuses why they can't do it, which just makes them sound like a team of inept, lazy, whiny little bitches.
Other devs like the folks over at Ubisoft must be laughing their asses off over this. I mean, they built massive highly detailed HD cities and SE can't make a few towns... good lord.
Please SE, stop with the cop outs and just say something smart like 'We won't be making an FFVII remake because we want to preserve the integrity and the legacy of the original. Our focus is to work on new and exciting adventures to bring to our customers'. Voila, if you'd just said that a couple years ago and stuck to it, just about everybody would be okay with it.
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Fabi
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 9:11:14 AM
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Every FF7 fan thinks that a remake would sell a TON. I actually don't think it would sell any better than FF13.
Not everyone is completely in love with FF7. I think there are just a lot of die hard fans of FF7, and those are so hardcore about a remake, that they make it seem like everyone is crying out for a remake.
Back in the days when FF7 released, I knew 6-7 people that completely loved the game (including myself). But now, only about 1-2 still play RPGs (not including myself), and maybe one would probably buy the remake.
I'm not saying everyone is the same way, but every gamer I know, could care less about a FF7 remake.
I don't want one, the game was perfect for it's time, just let it be what it was.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 2:32:26 PM
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Fabi
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 9:35:32 PM
Think again, the kids don't want an RPG, they want more mindless shooters where they can blow stuff up and kill people/monsters in the most f*cked up ways imaginable.
They don't want a turn-based RPG. TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
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Silent_J
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 9:58:21 AM
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SvenMD
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 10:05:42 AM
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Have they even seen Assassins Creed I or II. Aren't those 3-D towns?? and BIG ARSE towns at that.
This entire idea makes no sense to me at all.
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Milonakis
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:03:02 PM
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robinhood2010
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:26:06 PM
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"S-E has always said it would be a downright massive undertaking, one that could take a huge amount of time and require a gigantic amount of resource"
OK, it may be just me, but isn't this the same with ANY GAME made?
Surely FFXIII took a long time to make? Surely, if it is of the length we are led to believe, would it be hard to apply this time margin to a remake?
They don't need to make a script or story, character designs, set designs, graphics engine...all they need to do is program it all.
Surely, SURELY, this cannot take longer than making a game from scratch?
Don't get me wrong, I am a long time fan of SquareSOFT, but this is just more drivel and BS from S-E.
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Mr Bitey
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 12:43:18 PM
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Keep the battle system exactly the same as it was. It doesn't need to be tweaked to a real time system. Just update the graphics and animations.
Keep the basic layout of the world map exactly the same, but update the environments to 3D.
Keep the dialogue the same, just add voice acting.
Don't change the basic story at all.
Done! See how easy that was?
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 2:36:25 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:23:57 PM
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Arvis
Friday, February 05, 2010 @ 10:21:26 AM
-Arvis
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Mystearica
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 4:55:23 PM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:10:46 PM
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"It takes a village,...to make a good RPG"!!
LOL
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Jawknee
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:23:00 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:24:48 PM
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Jawknee
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 6:49:33 PM
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rogergent
Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 5:23:01 PM
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Naztycuts
Friday, February 05, 2010 @ 12:25:56 AM
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CrazyIrishBoy
Friday, February 05, 2010 @ 3:03:01 PM
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main_event05
Friday, February 05, 2010 @ 3:29:12 PM
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If that's not the sorriest excuse from a "professional" anything, I have ever heard.
If that is they attitude they approach the idea with, the question becomes, "Do we even want them to make it?".
They should just sell the rights to FF7 to Kojima then go cry in a corner somewhere.
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jami
Saturday, February 06, 2010 @ 7:55:12 AM
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orangpelupa
Saturday, February 06, 2010 @ 6:23:00 PM
X360 have old-school JRPG called "Lost Odyssey".
in that game you have TOWN.
Disc is not the issue of X360. more likely, xbox 360 arcade is the issue. forcing developers to not able to do mandatory install.
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Sky_Genesis
Saturday, February 06, 2010 @ 11:21:29 PM
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Nobody else is having trouble making HD towns in their PS3 games.
Sounds like they're being lazy since they aren't claiming that it's impossible to take on such a feat, just that it'd be difficult. I guess they don't realize the reward of actually working hard
some of the best comment ive heard pertaining to Square-enix
R.I.P Square Soft...here lies a company that used to make RpG's..
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Rumek
Saturday, February 06, 2010 @ 11:30:10 PM
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More than a remake of FFVII or another Final Fantasy period, I'd love to see a new entry in the Chrono universe... Who knows if that'll ever happen...
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MrAnonymity
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 3:48:22 AM
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jamesisaacs
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 5:28:13 AM
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jamesisaacs
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 5:28:30 AM
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Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:09:44 AM
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NetheRealm
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OriginalSin
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 2:28:42 AM
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I don't need FFXIII graphics and all that. Just a nice smooth upgrade or something that should be too hard to do.
But I guess the gaming community would rather let it be on that BIG scale I would just like to play it again (with slightly jacked up visuals and gameplay)...
And no towns in FFXIII??? What? Really?
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MCsephiroth1313
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 7:54:36 AM
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enjoi
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