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PSXE Poll Update: Gamers Split On FFXIII Skepticism

The news has been bombarded with disappointment and negative feedback concerning Final Fantasy XIII, although there remains a strong, loyal following that claims the skepticism is unfounded.

Depending on how you interpret the poll results, it seems our readers are mostly split on the issue. While the majority say all that bad talk hasn't affected them in the slightest, the remaining votes were split almost evenly through the three remaining options. This can only mean that the negative articles have indeed had an impact; without such questioning commentary, it's almost inevitable that just about everyone would've remained totally psyched for the game's US release in March. While we believe some of the hate really is unfounded, the loss of towns is especially irksome and we're actually starting to wonder what makes FFXIII an "RPG" besides gaining experience. Following a story, no exploration of a world map or towns, gaining abilities at various points (save points, in this case)...how is that much different than God of War or another action-based game? We're not saying it doesn't deserve to be a role-playing game but it almost appears as if Square-Enix wants to leave those distinct RPG elements behind...

Heavy Rain will be a hot topic this week - the embargo lifts on the 10th - so we're wondering if you think the anti-game freaks will crawl out of the wordworks. As we know, there's almost full nudity in the game and of course, because only kids play video games, we just can't have this. So, have the naysayers grown up or are they going to have a hissy fit?

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy XIII

2/7/2010 9:24:26 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (68 posts)

Nlayer
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 9:55:47 PM
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I'll be getting Final Fantasy XIII on release. I don't care what others have to to say, I've seen some fan reviews that break the game into pieces and show the ups and downs. From my own research and opinion on the game I know for a fact that I will personally enjoy it. I'm not going to let all the hate drive me away from the game!

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Scarecrow
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:03:33 PM
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Nothing amazes me these days when it comes to TV-media

They'll make a big scene out of Heavy Rain's nudity.
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FFXIII is a disgrace to FF imo.
I have every FF since FFVII and it's sad to see it go down the hill.

Never even liked the character designs to begin with.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:10:12 PM

Honestly, how can you say it's a disgrace without playing it? People who hate the direction that they percieve this game to be going will side with you automatically, but I personally don't know why you're so angry so please expand on that thought.

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Hitch
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 2:26:32 AM

He won't. Nothing to expand upon. It's baseless.

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Deleted User
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:40:37 AM

You are so right Scarecrow. FF is not what is used to be. It is an interactive movie. I will not be playing it unless someone buys it for me. Infact I went back and bought FF 7 and FF 8 on the PSN to play the last great RPGS of FF imo. I wasnt much on 10 actually. It was ok.

End of Line.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:24:44 AM

Thats rubbish its after FFX they went down hill. VIII,IX and X are fantastic games.

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Imagi
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 9:27:27 AM

Yeah, then they will cut to the commercial break where a load of sexual imagery and innuendo will be used to sell crap people don't need.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:46:31 PM

i loved each final fantasy game i played since VII. maybe its just me, i guess i made the mistake of not comparing each FF game to the one they loved before.

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BigBoss4ever
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 8:11:23 PM

same here, never liked any FF13 characters.

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dragonx_HD
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:12:29 PM
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I've been taken aback from all the negativity, but it's Final Fantasy. I grew up on it, and I'll probably buy every one that ever comes out regardless. As for Heavy Rain, of course they are going to freak out. It's just the way those guys are. It's like breathing. They always have to have a soapbox to stand on.

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SnipeySnake
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:13:48 PM
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After the ign review of bioshock 2....im stuck at which i should get again...Bioshock 2 or FFXIII...I CAN'T PICK! T_T

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Mr Bitey
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:24:19 PM
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I've decided I'm buying the game day one. I'm not reading a single review until I see the game's final credits roll.

I'm not happy that the PS3 version was gimped to accommodate the DVD port. A very strong part of me wants to pass on the game because of this.

But I've waited for a very long time, and the time is finally here! I'm sure it will still be a great game, but I can't help but to wonder what could have been.

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Kiwi of DOOM
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:37:56 PM

Well hopefully we can see a little good come out of what SE did. What i mean is, maybe if they see that many people don't but FFXIII because of the changes they'll learn not to water things down just so they can go multiplatform. I mean, i really hope the game still recieves attention and a lot of it but that's the only good i can see coming from all that.

On the plus side, FFXIII Versus is still PS3 exclusive. Can't wait for more news there.

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Charger7302
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:13:43 PM

@Kiwi of DOOM
"Well hopefully we can see a little good come out of what SE did. What i mean is, maybe if they see that many people don't buy FFXIII because of the changes they'll learn not to water things down just so they can go multiplatform."

If Final Fantasy 13 sells poorly(which I doubt) you can kiss Ff VS's exclusivity goodbye.

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Qwarktast1c
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 12:49:55 AM

@ ADAM WEST

i agree, i'm pissed about all the stuff that has happened regarding this game, but i still want it :)

@ Charger

lets hope something like that doesn't happen.

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Vitron
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:20:39 AM

yeah... what could it hav been...

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BikerSaint
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:28:22 PM
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I don't think there's any hate directed against FFXIII itself.

All the hate is really aimed at SE for watering down a legendary game.

FF's always been "THE" Icon in the realm of RPG's, and it's wrong to turn it into anything much less than what it could be.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:49:14 PM

i dont care if square looses their top spot. Level 5s white knight chronicles reassures me that it would be fine.

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SmokeyPSD
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:29:36 PM
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I've completely moved passed FFXIII, I've just decided to move on and couldnt careless. Apart from all the information coming out of the woodwork of lack of exploration etc, the world just doesn't interest me.

Heavy Rain is THE game experience I've been waiting for. The demo is awe inspiring.

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geovanwitdakick
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:33:13 PM
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Agree with Bikersaint, & to add on to what Adam West said, We have indeed waited enough, only to have a large portion of the game taken out. The game was SUPPOSED to be probably the defining game of the generation, but instead it's just probably going to be a game that could've been.

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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:40:36 PM
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I've played the Heavy Rain demo 5 or 6 times and i feel like theres still stuff i missed. I can see Heavy Rain being at the top of my favorites list for a long time.
If the media freaks out about it then it just proves that they know nothing about gaming, nor do they care to know, so who would take them seriously anyway?

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Robochic
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 10:58:03 PM
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I can see the media making a big fuss on heavy rain's nudity we live in a world of prudes. But hey put war on tv showing people being shot and killed thats A-OK though?

My hubby has moved past FF13 and is just looking forward to GOW III, I know once he tries FF13 he'll be back on the Final fantasy wagon I think all the hate is not the game but SE.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:52:42 PM

hahahah, all these talk about nudity in heavy rain would end up some immature kids buying the game. sales are sales and were lucky theres no online so we dont have to deal with these kids. Isnt that one reason why some of these kids bought mass effect 1, because of the controversy? all i'm saying is that i hope heavy rain does well.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:06:09 PM
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I'm sure that Heavy Rain will be targeted by the media, and I can tell you one good reason right here (this point was also used in anti-RE5 articles); this game is obviously being marketed to children and it teaches them how to kill people and take a piss after a shower. Wait, that second one didn't sound so bad now that I think about it....

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Alienange
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:18:47 PM
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It sure does sound like one gimped FF game we're getting. No need for me to buy it on day one that's for sure. Give it a couple months to simmer and see how it stands up post hype.

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gumbi
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:36:52 PM
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It's releasing too close to GOWIII for me to be getting it day one. I'll still get it, and hopefully love it, but I only have the time/money for one new game every few months. And while it never really stood a chance against GOWIII for me, the news of it going multiplat and then having content removed has secured FFXIII as a 'wait till it's cheaper' title for me.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:54:11 PM

i guess you didnt hear that it might have DLC in the future huh.

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lupus
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:47:30 PM
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cut off 50% on the game so it could be on a 360 disc f.u. SE - not buying it!

I'll wait for the ff xiv mmorpg instead.

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___________
Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 11:56:12 PM
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to tell you the truth i dont know what i believe.
reading reviews, IGN especially are constantly bit**ing that a sequel is the same as its predecessor.
go read their review of ACIT ive lost the amount of times they have complained about the lack of change.
than they bi*** that a game is exactly the same as another, DI for example but never did they bi*** about it in bayonetas review.
but than i read their review of bioshock 2 and there is no complaining that there is no innovation from 1 to 2.
so for ACIT its a bad thing but for bioshock 2 its fine?
can you say double standards?
im really starting to think IGN were pissed off with EA in some way or another.
i heard they asked EA for access to the first review like they got for many other games and EA refused.
maybe that explains the BS score.
though 2 of my mates have played this and said its pretty graphics and thats it.
give up $E.
if you cant be fu**ed putting in cities into your games than i suggest you give up while your ahead.
sure you can rely on your name, but that will only carry you so far.
its only a matter of time till the fanbabys wake up and smell the coffee.
$Es glory days are long gone!

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Qwarktast1c
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 12:51:06 AM

IGN is full of sh*t, PERIOD.

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Mr Bitey
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 9:02:26 AM

After all you can't spell "ignorant" without IGN. ;)

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Oxvial
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 1:28:08 AM
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I read some spoilers and for my taste the villains in this game lacks a lot of charisma , also it looks dlc are coming...I'm gonna wait til the goty edition that I hope gonna come with dlc included .

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:56:59 PM

i am buying the game, but not wasting money or time on DLC. The game better be a complete experience and not lacking episodes for future dlc.

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AceTatsujin
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 1:36:27 AM
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FFVI and FFVII and FFT. The rest of the FF's are UTTER GARBAGE and FFXIII is a big freaking disappointment... THANK YOU 360, THANK YOU MICROSOFT FOR RUINING THE FREAKING GAME!!!!

Btw, 360 version on back of the game says they getting DLC. LOLOLOLOLOL

FUK U SQUARE!!

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XxNoir
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 1:51:21 AM
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Final fantasy versus 13 is going to have the greatness that final fantasy 13 was suppose to have.

And yes like some of you i will say i have lost my faith in square enix but I'd like to contradict myself a little and say,my faith in tetsuya nomura remains untouched & know he will undoubtedly delivery on FFV13 and KH3.

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Qwarktast1c
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 2:05:55 AM

as much as i would hate to even say it.... KH3 will probably be multiplat also :(

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Silent_J
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 8:54:39 AM

yeah im kinda feeling that too.

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FullmetalX10
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:54:21 AM

Go Nomura, deliver us godly games and take over S-E and ban Microsoft from any contact with the company you just took over.

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chedison
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 1:55:49 AM
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I don't know if it was me being put off by the latest FF12 or what, but the road FF franchise is heading down doesn't really seem good (according to my tastes, not saying other people won't like them.)

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it will be far from a day-1 purchase for me. For 1, my RPG crave is being filled nicely with WKC right now(which is aMAZING btw), and things I've heard about it make me want to spend my money elsewhere.

If anything, it will give me something to play in a couple months when I don't have anything else to play.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:01:46 PM

i loved Final Fantasy XII, what exacly put you off on that game? the story was great and if you're playing and loving white knight chronicles, you must like the battle system. I mean wkc and FFXII seems like it has the same turnbased system to me minus the different interfaces. the AI controls the other party members in both games and thats what some people complaint was. i see no problem with it. i was just wondering why you didnt like FFXII and loved WKC? as for me, i love both, but right now i keep getting sidetracked from the main quest. i can see this game holding me down till FFXIII.

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Richy
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:14:40 AM
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hello ...

i want to try FFXIII, if a demo comes out i'll certainly go for it, i dont' like games where you play by turn, so need to experience it a little. I guess my favs are action adventure with a bit of platforming like UC & some heavy hack n slash like GOW series, yet i'm also into new concepts so HR also i a sure go, LOL.

bring me a demo & i'll check it.

cheers!

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:03:51 PM

i guess you havent played any final fantasy game before then as its pretty much turn based or some kind of modified turn based like FFXII. Its not bad at all, it lets you plan your attack. i prefer them to those rpgs that just seem to turn into button mashers.

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Jalex
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:30:00 AM
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I've never missed a 'Final Fantasy' title (even if I am more the 'Dragon Quest' type), but 'X' was really the last great one for me, so it's only become increasingly difficult to get excited about 'XIII'. And especially in light of recent news (none of it making the game appear more enticing to me).
I'll still get it, but right now it's sitting nowhere near the top of my list.

As for the 'Heavy Rain' issue...I know most of the internet likes to go to war with all the people they disagree with, but I don't believe in 'Any press is good press' and certainly wouldn't want this particularly special title to be put in the spotlight solely due to controversy.
I want to highlight all the positives about what I believe could be a landmark in the history of gaming. Not engage in a shouting match of sorts about who is truly wrong.
If there are those who will condemn 'Heavy Rain', then I say let them, and with no argument. And then let us proclaim what we know and love of the same title. And let that be all.
If we (the gaming community) can manage that, then I believe that those who truly care about the truth will discover it for themselves.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:31:43 AM
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I will end up getting Final Fantasy XIII sooner or later. Heck i may give into a first day purchase. I'm certainly not hyped for it like before Decemeber and details (its flaws) were let out.

In a way i'm not even expecting it to be like a Final Fantasy, but just like another RPG. In comparision to other RPG's i think it will hold some ground. Like i have said beforin some ways being linear is not a bad thing, one of the worst things about FFXII was the pacing, You'd go through tons of land maps and temples before the story would advance, at least the same thing wont happen with this game.... Well i sure as hell hope not lol.

If the story makes up for what its lacking i can proably forgive it, guess in the end i'll just have to buy it can see.

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JackC8
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 8:02:09 AM
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I'm taking a wait-and-see approach to FF XIII. Everything I've heard about the gameplay is pretty negative, but that all comes from a small number of sources. Maybe it's all exaggeration, I guess I'll find out when it launches.

As far as the nudity in Heavy Rain, hey - all the surveys show that the average age of gamers is well into the adult range, so of course there should be adult content in games. Will people make a big fuss about it? Honestly, they can scream all they want and I won't notice or care.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 8:17:59 AM

Really? I've heard the gameplay get more compliments than any of its other features.

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I_defenestrate
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 8:51:42 AM
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As I've said before, the only reason I'm still getting the game is because I paid it off months ago, before all the depressing news came out. Otherwise, I'd be waiting for a price drop and a gift chance.

As for the soapboxers? I'll be too busy playing the awesomeness that is Heavy Rain to give two $#!T$.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:07:53 PM

ummm....cant you cancel your preorder and move those funds to a different game. Thats what i do with my preorder from gamestop. I usually keep 5 bucks in their system to get preorder bonuses and just move it around. i'm sure you can do that even if you already paid it off.

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FullmetalX10
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 11:04:54 AM
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I think it's really poor that there are no towns nor oppurtunities to explore, especially since I really like exploring and collecting collectibles and such, as for this rumor regarding not being able to turn back to previous maps, does anyone know if this still holds or has it been ruled out? Anyways, I might get it, after a month or two, God of War will be first and if I have the money, Heavy Rain too, if I then, by some miracle still have enough money left and the game has been slightly reduced in price I might still get it, otherwise I will just borrow it from my friend who will get it regardless.

As for the Heavy Rain thing, I think the media will take a nice big bite from the violence and nudity from Heavy Rain and negatively spit it out to the people who haven't really heard anything about the game and will thus only think bad from it. We know better though, especially after playing the demo.

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LittleBigMidget
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 11:46:04 AM
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@ Fullmetalx10 yes its true you cannout explore towns and what not. You guys know how I feel about FFXIII. The characters, Jesus Christ the characters! They'll make you rage.

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godsman
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 12:12:03 PM
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If playing a PS3 game, means the development time for graphics takes too long. I rather play a PS2.5 game and get the FULL game instead.

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archs13
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 1:13:57 PM
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i finally bothered to watch some gameplay on youtube and i think i'm gonna buy it on day 1 because it seems like the "no towns" issue is similar to how linear final fantasy X is... and i logged over a hundred hours playing that game.

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 11:35:49 AM

i logged like 200+ lol

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Jawknee
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 2:10:58 PM
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Im still getting it even though ive grown a tad sour on it. Need me some Final Fantasy. While it probably will not be the game i wanted or expected from Square, im sure it will still be fun a experience.

While the game design seems to have been tailored around disc swapping, at least were getting the version with the best video and audio. Thank you Blue Ray.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 5:12:54 PM

with all these news about final fantasy, it kind of make me think that they didnt really put much faith in XIII from the beginning. Its just another final fantasy that they thought they must churn out. if its quality suffers then its no big deal. I mean why else would they announce two final fantasy games with the same numerals. at least in X-2s case, X came out first before info of x-2 but news for VSXIII already came out and XIII wasnt even out yet.

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Jawknee
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 6:08:08 PM

Lets hope Versus XIII stays exclusive and blows XIII out of the water.

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Snaaaake
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 7:54:12 PM

Not if Wada can do something about it.
After all, Wada is still Nomura's superior.

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 4:40:53 PM
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I havent really cared about what people said about it because im still buying it day 1. What disturbs me is the news floating around that there might be DLC for this game. Add that to their admittance of a games worth of removed content and im just disappointed now.

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Jawknee
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 6:09:37 PM

Of course and i wouldnt be surprised if MS said "hey, sorry you had to cut out content because your couldnt fit it on our DVD's, to make up for it, do what we do and SELL IT!!"

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DemonNeno
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 7:09:43 PM
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Ben, I'm with you all the way with your article. I'm interested to see what this game has to offer, but I don't quite understand how SE comes out of the woodwork talking down console(s?) and their intensive needs to produce towns. HELLLO!!! It's taken them HOW many years to produce this game and they short us our towns and maps to rummage?! How sad, man..

I don't get it. It may not stop me from buying it, but I'll be one of the guys who'll wait until it's aged enough to be a good fetch at a gamestop price.

Although, maybe your eventual review of the game may spark my immediate interest again. Especially since I know you're finky about what I am in this game.

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Jawknee
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 7:39:58 PM

Im going to make a prediction. That 1st 20 hours of the game thats "very linear" and lacks proper towns, money says that thats the entire 1st disc on the Xbox. i bet when the games "opens up more" as some of said after the 1st 20 or so hours will be on disc two.

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Snaaaake
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 7:58:49 PM
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I hope SE didn't make FFXIII too easy.

Auto heal after each battle is fine but from what I heard this time we shop from the menu?

In FFXII some times a journey takes a very long time I had to conserve my potions because there's no vendor until I find one.

I bet SE is gonna advertise the new shopping system as "ANYTIME ANYWHERE"

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johnld
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 8:12:16 PM

as long as its pretty much the same auto healing as white knight chronicles i wont mind. WKC autohealing heals you out of battle over time and not just full health right away.

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Gamer4Life
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:35:17 PM
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hello,

Im new here on PSXE, so dont crucify me when i say this but, i don't see what the big deal is about no towns. I personally play ff games because i know a ff usually provides me some of the best storytelling in gaming. So after watching the first 5 chapters on youtube i can honestly say that i love what they did with xiii. they made it more story driven. and the battle system looks way better. there is a lot more action going on. people actually move around and not just stand like statues waiting on someone to attack. as i said earlier i play ff games for their story, and to me the town sections were always getting interrupting it. i hate walking around talking to 10 or so random npcs just to find the right one who tells me what to do next.

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Gamer4Life
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:35:18 PM
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hello,

Im new here on PSXE, so dont crucify me when i say this but, i don't see what the big deal is about no towns. I personally play ff games because i know a ff usually provides me some of the best storytelling in gaming. So after watching the first 5 chapters on youtube i can honestly say that i love what they did with xiii. they made it more story driven. and the battle system looks way better. there is a lot more action going on. people actually move around and not just stand like statues waiting on someone to attack. as i said earlier i play ff games for their story, and to me the town sections were always getting interrupting it. i hate walking around talking to 10 or so random npcs just to find the right one who tells me what to do next.

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Kr3sn1k
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:31:10 AM
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final fantasy 13 can go to hell it lost my money when it went on the xbox

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Roach721
Wednesday, February 10, 2010 @ 5:41:35 AM

AGREED...

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Roach721
Wednesday, February 10, 2010 @ 5:42:48 AM

Once your main character dies, game over even if your allies have full health.

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