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Rebellion Apologizes For Aliens vs. Predator Demo Issues

I was planning to give you a hands-on look at Aliens vs. Predator last week but that didn't happen. Why? Because I couldn't get into a game in the multiplayer demo, that's why.

And I was hardly the only one to experience these matchmaking issues with the PS3 demo, which is why developer Rebellion has apologized for the problem.  But while they continue to seek for a solution, these issues could be "ongoing." The demo experienced a similar drawback on Steam but they quickly issued a patch that fixed things; the Xbox 360 version appears to remain unaffected. So yet again, PS3 owners are left out in the cold when it comes to such technical shortcomings; the following is a statement made by Rebellion:

"The full game features the ability to browse for and create games but for the purposes of simplicity the demo was limited to matchmaking, alongside the ability to set up groups with friends which mitigated yesterday's issues for many.

We're really sorry that this issue tainted a day in which we saw many people get hands-on with AVP for the first time and we're hugely gratified by the positive feedback to the game."

You know, that's not really what upsets me. What upsets me is this new trend of releasing demos that are only multiplayer and don't allow a single person to sample anything. This happened with the Army of Two: The 40th Day demo, too, and I didn't bother waiting to get into a game for that one, either. I'm well aware of the fact that too many people can't seem to live without multiplayer, but to completely ignore the single-player aspect of a game is insanely annoying. In the future, companies that see fit to only provide us with a multiplayer demo of a game won't exactly take priority. They don't need hands-on views, anyway, right? "Everybody" only cares about multiplayer. 'rolling eyes'

Related Game(s): Aliens vs. Predator

2/8/2010 9:03:13 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (62 posts)

Nickjcal
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 9:30:12 PM
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If you get a party now with 3-4 people it works fine now. I for one am really happy with this game. Destroying lights with the aliens actually really affects the marines sight which is very cool. Besides that the species are very well balanced ive played all 3 and have gotten an even amount of kills and deaths. The gore is good im hoping itll look a bit better in the full game and that bodies dont just sink into the ground which is pretty gay. Graphics are nice etc. I do wish the aliens had some more regular moves like spitting acid and maybe spearing people from the walls and cielings. Predators should be able to move when using bigger weapons etc. Marines are good besides the fact they cant go down the iron sights which dosent bother me too much since accuracy isnt bad. The sniper does have a scope tho. Overall i am deff buying this then bad company then just today i finally took a look at just cause and it looks amazing and im deff picking that up

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Charger7302
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:33:44 PM

"Marines are good besides the fact they cant go down the iron sights"
That's my only complaint too. I've never played a shooter where you can't look down your sights, but I loved the demo of AvP so much that this game is going to be my first. Though, I'm still holding out hope that if people complain Rebellion might include it before launch or maybe via patch, if it's possible.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:28:02 AM

L4D on the 360 can't look down the sights =)

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Geobaldi
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 1:05:32 AM

There are many other shooters where you can't look down the sights also. It's fairly common.

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St_Jimmy
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 6:38:46 AM

I dont think you can on some weapons on bf:bc2

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Mr Bitey
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 9:58:36 PM
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I tried on 5 separate occasions. I finally got frustrated enough, and just deleted the file.

I did notice that my PSN mail kept filling up with requests from other people to play, but it was delayed. I gave up hours before the messages deceived to show up.

Off Topic - White Knight is fantastic. It's a solid JRPG with a great online component. I sunk quite a few hours into it today. :)

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karneli lll
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:03:35 AM

Same issues i had.At least that's one game out of my list.

I was dissapointed with WKC after 2 hours i gave up.

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Mamills
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:45:40 AM

ye same i thought WKC sucked.
went back to playing FF12 and demons souls as i await FF13

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Mr Bitey
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 8:08:02 AM

Yeah the game takes a while to get going. Just like most RPGs. Since you have to unlock combat abilities in order to grow the battle system, 2 hours is nowhere near enough time to judge it. I have a feeling that's what most of the reviewers did.

I loved FF XI and XII, so I feel right at home with WKC.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 9:07:59 AM

I disagree Adam,if a game doesn't grip you in the first few hours of play then there's no way you'll enjoy it 10 hours later.

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Mr Bitey
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 11:24:56 AM

We can always agree to disagree :)

But for example, both of the Kingdom Hearts games had much slower starts. I think it took literally hours before any action happen at all. Great games, but you had to invest some time before they showed their greatness.

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Feregrin
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 3:05:28 PM

You can't judge a 40-50+ hours game after just playing it for an hour or two. It's an RPG for crying out loud. My most recent experience and a perfect example of this is Dragon Age: Origins. Had I given up (the origins are real boring compared to the rest of the game) like you did with WKC then I'd have missed out on one of the better RPGs this generation. Maybe it's just not a genre for you?

Anyway, OnT: I got to play some AvP on the release day of the demo and decided that I'll be buying it at some point, which is rare for me since I practically never buy FPS games. It's got some amazing multiplayer potential.

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Guest
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:07:03 PM
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There's NO excuse for demos being technically crappy, lacking a single player, or not being immediately patched.

A demo is supposed to represent the product.

I really want to buy this game, but Rebellion's attitude (through their actions) is dumbfounding.

They DO want people to buy this don't they?

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englishgolfer
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 11:57:42 PM

have tried to get onto this game a few times here in sweden but with no luck. what was going to be a day one buy for me is now a bargin bin buy. sadly, this "demo" has left a sour taste in my mouth.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:31:32 AM

actually if you read what they put before the game, it TELLS YOU, this is not a look at the final product and that it uses pre-finished coding of the game. =)

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BikerSaint
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:10:12 PM
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Amen Ben,
you're preaching to the choir(well at least one not-so-saintly choirboy).

It sucks that there's no SP mode for us guys(and gals), I really wanted to sample this game, DAMN IT!!!!

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Vitron
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 1:05:24 AM

yeah, they also should consider that there are still some gamers who values SP and story of a game other than multimayhems though it's a shooter....

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Nickjcal
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 4:26:24 PM

multiplayers fun all u have to do is add a few people. If you people on here want to play just exchange psns then inv eatchother its that easy. I played all day yesterday

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Mamills
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:36:12 PM
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played that demo and yes it is broken
had to pair up with friends and their friends etc etc. to get a game going.

my question is:
its alien vs predator,
why the hell did they make it a 8 player free-for-all deathmatch demo?
i would think they would make it a demo that showed off a mode that would be unique to a game like that. (for instance predator mode or infestation mode) Free-for-all Deathmatch mode sucked in that game!

Anyways i played it and hated it. it wasnt scary at all, Maybe because the game was too bright for me still. we even organized and created our own predator mode and it still wasnt fun.

graphics wise, its nothing special, your regular "next gen graphics as defined by earlier shooters"

the alien's controls are not the greatest (its really hard to drop from the ceiling and attack) and the melee combat (which is the main type of combat for alien and predator) is horrible. the whole grab mechanic, there is no telling when is the right time to push the button.

as for the marines, dont even bother grabbing the sniper rifle, its useless. better off going with the regular rifle or the smart gun so you can lock on to targets.

i spent most of my time as an alien running around and knocking out the light sources to make it even darker so that it would be hard for any1 to notice me right away. well guess what. it didn't matter, they can see you no matter what.

im a huge alien fan and quite frankly this game has disappointed.

i know its just a demo but quite frankly if they cant even get a demo to organize a simple deathmatch on PS3, i wonder what else is messed up in the full game. either way i don't care and will be skipping it.

why play a crappy excuse of a game like that? i have no time for Shoddy ports that they just shovel to us PS3 owners.

i instead went out right away and pre-ordered Final Fantasy XIII, ($55 bux at best buy for Canadians) HEAVY RAIN, (awesome game by the way, played the demo) and Battlefield Bad Company 2.

sorry for the rant guys, but i was really looking forward to a good alien game and this is not it.

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gungrave
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 11:16:30 PM

Well...the only good I see coming from all this is that they found this problem early. I expect the final copy will have a patch you need to download from the start.

Man, Rebellion messed up bad....I felt like they were on a roll as far as putting the word out on their game. Now two weeks before launch they release a broken demo >.< If that doesn't hurt sales, I don't know what does....but then again microsoft got away with releasing a broken system so maybe things won't be so bad Rebellion. Still a day one purchase for me....that and Heavy Rain.

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Guest
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:36:26 PM
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The "thumbs-down" I got for my earlier comment gave me a great idea!

(A big "thank you" to whoever that was!)

**I've cancelled my preorder for this**

I'm sick of bad demos, sick of companies disregarding PS3 owners while 360 versions work fine, and as much as I want this I'm going to give the purchase a "thumbs-down" and wait for the reviews to come in FIRST.

BioShock 2 & GOWIII will wipe away my tears anyway... ;)

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Charger7302
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 11:02:52 PM

If you have an xbox 360, I highly recommend you try out the demo there, because once you can get a match running, this game is wicked FUN.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:30:00 AM

Lol, you whine so much over a demo? They even said it's entirely different than the real game. The real game is, they say, doing to have dedicated servers, which is why you can browse a list and create games meaning there'll hardly be any lag. And if you're complaining about the 360's fault for this, AvP is meant more for the PC then either console with this set-up.

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Qubex
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 8:45:07 AM

Now people can understand why I dislike the 360 so much, it has degraded gaming quite a bit I think. In the old days when the PS2 rained supreme these issues were few and far between...

Q!

"i am home"

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Nickjcal
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 5:16:30 PM

im just annoyed how to xbox is treated so supremely. I mean cmon it cant be that hard to get the demos right on all 3 platforms. And ive owned a 360 and the demos were no different. In fact on the 360 id only gotten into the WAW beta and Halo 3 betas. On ps3 ive been in uncharted 2 beta mag beta bad company 2 beta lbp beta. Anyways im rambling haha

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InBlackestNight
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:53:32 PM
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This should of been a single player mode, offline demo. I am sick to death of online being shoved down my throat! I hate online and I want a good, single-player offline mode or you don't get my money.

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Qubex
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 8:51:05 AM

Death never comes easy, but I know what you mean... Multi-player in our faces all the time, and yet when you look at games like Uncharted 2, or more recently, the excellent Mass Effect 2, it only goes to show what could have been done with an Aliens v Predator SP story to pull you in...

Q!

"i am home"

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Charger7302
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 10:59:46 PM
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Has anyone noticed that the publicity that AvP has gotten from the "broken" demo, has been the only publicity that this game HAS gotten.

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jaybiv
Monday, February 08, 2010 @ 11:46:38 PM

So much for the saying that all publicity is good publicity. I downloaded the demo but hadn't tried it yet. I'm deleting it tonight and will forget it ever existed.

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Geobaldi
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:07:23 AM
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I never encountered any issues playing the demo and I enjoyed it. Now just waiting to pick it up next week.

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Robochic
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:10:53 AM
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I had noticed this "glitch" got fed up and deleted the file as well, why they didn't just bring out a Single player demo is beyond me.

I agree with you Ben sick and tired of these multiplate demos, what happens if no one really download the demo then someone who actually wants to try it has to hope that theirs enough people online to play the demo.
I think demos should stay as SP that way everyone can enjoy it and not worry if anyone will be online to play it with them.

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___________
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 1:21:33 AM
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dont apologize for the problem.
FIX IT!
honestly the demo feels like code from when the game was in beta status!
i was not going to buy this because i was relying on a SP demo to tell me if its worth buying but they did not give me that so i decided not to buy it.
but the MP demo was the final nail in the coffin.
hint for next time sega.
if your going to release a demo make sure its actually decent.
its almost like they dont want people buying this.
and after rouge warrior rebellion need all the help they can get!

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 7:43:21 AM

becuz...it is, does no one freakin read what it says when you first start up the game?

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___________
Wednesday, February 10, 2010 @ 6:07:32 AM

what so that exonerates them for releasing a crappy demo?
give me a break!
if your going to release a demo of your game you have to make sure its good, if its not than people are going to think the game is sh*t no matter what BS they say.
for all we know they could be using that as a BS excuse to excuse the poor quality.
would not surprise me considering the crap rebellion has released lately.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, February 10, 2010 @ 11:25:37 AM

Well, for me I've only had the problem of maybe waiting awhile, but I don't even have that problem anymore, especially if you have friends to play with, everyone parties up and go to a room in which you and your friends are already in and you can just play with them, it's fun for me, so w/e haha.

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Naztycuts
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 1:30:12 AM
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I thought the demo sucked the aliens feel like theyre sliding around on ice, I couldnt figure out how to shoot the torpedo thing out of predator's head, the marines felt way underpowered (I agree with them being weakest because well thats reality) I hope the final product looks better graphically as well.

OFF topic- Bioshock 2 multiplayer is very fun, its no mw2 but it won't be boring getting those mp trophies

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Random_Steve
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 2:01:43 AM
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only heard average things about this :/ and you're right about multiplayer demos, unless its an only multiplayer game, there must be single player in the demo

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daizycutter
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 2:47:34 AM
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really dissapointed by the avp demo cancelled my order after trying to play the demo ..im not paying £40 for that! seems the ps3 version is an after thought

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Robochic
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 4:25:09 AM
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@daizycutter completely agree with you, I never preordered it but my husband really wanted it I told him he can wait till it's on sale for 20-30 bucks. Not paying 59.99+tax CDN

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TheRaPtuRe
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 4:34:46 AM
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i bet the ps3 version will be the inferior one, what a surprise that would be eh?
its about time these devs got there lazy arses into gear ffs

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tridon
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 6:00:29 AM
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I'm with you, Ben. Multiplayer has always been a far secondary decision to why I purchase video games. For me, the single player experience is where it's at. Almost every demo lately for games that I want to try only lets you sample the MP mode, and that's very discerning.

Anyway, I couldn't get into this AvP demo, either, but I just figured it was because everyone was ignoring it to play Battlefield: Bad Company 2 instead. HA! Glad to hear I'm not the only one.

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tridon
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 6:01:50 AM

Oh, and BTW, I really had no intent to ever purchase this game because, honestly, I'm a little exhausted when it comes to FPS games. However, I will say, the Hunter Edition for the games kicks royal ass! I'd pay the extra $40 easily for the facehugger! =D

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tlpn99
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 7:18:01 AM
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My friend in Game told me this too this morning. No wonder myself and Dillon couldnt get on. Oh well it's out a week on Friday here in the UK maybe I'll have sampled the demo by then as I like the look of this game. :)

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JPHarvey
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 7:37:34 AM
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I am personnally glad that the demo is multiplayer. It could have SP also but, it's free so we can't complain.

At least, it gives me the opportunity to play on my 2 PS3 systems at once with my son. With the full game it would require me to buy 2 copies of the game so, I am glad the demo is multiplayer! With a little patience it is working and really fun and scarry at the same time.

Day one purchase.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 2:21:59 PM

@JPHarvey,
Well if your post wasn't one of the most selfish statement I've ever heard.

You basically posted that it's alright with you because it's ONLY in the MP mode that YOU like, but that also makes it fine with you too they've screwed the rest of us that only like SP modes?????

WOW, I'd expect something like that coming from an 8 year old, & not a grown man!

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JackC8
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 7:48:36 AM
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I agree with Ben - these multiplayer demo's are crap as far as I'm concerned. There are all sorts of aspects to games: First of course there are the characters - are these people I'd like to spend 10 hours with? How's the voice acting? Does this story sound interesting? Then there are the environments. I like to spend some time just looking around, checking out the graphics, soaking up the atmosphere. And then there are the various aspects of the gameplay - is there puzzle solving, platforming, exploration?

With online multiplayer demos, all of that is gone. It's just a shooter, and the gameplay will be identical to every other shooter on the market. There will be no characters or story, there will be no time to soak in the atmosphere, there will be no exploration or any other aspect of gameplay.

Take the Uncharted 2 demo for instance. I downloaded it and started playing, for about 1 minute. Of course everyone else had been playing for two weeks straight, so what was my gameplay experience like? Take 25 head shots in 5 minutes. Oh yeah, I REALLY want to run out and pay $60 for more of this! Oh, and the two guys with mic's who couldn't say a single sentence without using the "n" word really enriched my experience as well. Funny, I still haven't bought that game.

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Silent_J
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 8:35:46 AM
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I thought it was the only one .After playing BF:BC2 for a long I wanted to try the A vs P demo ,but for the love of god I couldnt find a game.Hopefully they fix this error soon so we all can have some fun.

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Qubex
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 8:45:44 AM

"Bless you my child", God said :)

Q!

"i am home"

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Qubex
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 8:48:48 AM
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It is simply unacceptable to be releasing code like this, at lest make sure the demo works as intended.

Regarding what I have seen in the press generally; I think the ideas are good, however, I will wait to see the execution. The "sliding alien on ice" a few posts above worries me... it would be a waste of a great franchise if they balls this one up... worried that the PS3 version will be a throw back too :(

Q!

"i am home"

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Alienange
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 9:56:53 AM
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Another demo bitting developers in the ass.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:17:33 PM

My thought exactly. Although not for this reason. I wanted to like this game, but...i can't.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 10:12:04 AM
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I really don't care to hear his apology.

I have this game pre-ordered, and now I am thinking about not buying this title.

To go along with what Ben said, I agree, the demo should of featured singleplayer action.

But hey, when titles like COD MW2 sell in the millions, what's a game developer to do?

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trgdor
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 10:43:24 AM
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I had fun with this demo the species where overall balanced the marines are not as underpowers as most people think in a group they would kill almost anything, the predator is arguably the most powerful species with it's secondary weapons almost always one hit kills, the aliens are fast and can crawl anywhere but they don't have as much health as the other species. The aliens don't "slide on ice" you just need to get the feel of them.

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rogers71
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 10:47:57 AM
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This just goes to show that developers are catering to the "twitch gamers" and the "What have you done for me lately" attitude.

It seems like more and more people are developing attention deficit disorder. You not only see it in gaming, where it has to be MP to keep someone playing, but you also see it in other areas. Such as sports, gone are the days where a coach can lead a team for more than 5 or 6 years without winning a championship. There are exceptions to the rule obviously.

Single player will always be there of course, but it seems like everyone needs the instant gratification of Multiplayer to feel like they are accomplishing anything. It is a sad commentary on the human condition if you ask me.

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BeezleDrop
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 11:22:13 AM
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As every game doesn't need multiplayer, it can be a nice addition. So after ages of waiting I tried the AvP Demo, and to be honest I think its awful. I know demos do not do the game justice usually but really, its not fun. Back to what I was typing, I see MP as a nice addition, just a bit of replay value, but mostly I prefer Co-op instead of competitive, people just mouthy and angry online these days. Or maybe with crap shooters like MW2.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 12:16:45 PM
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heh, i just assumed it was because the demo was new and there wasn't many games to join. Either way i deleted it shorty after playing it. Game had potential but the game play mechanics seemed out dated.

No aim down the iron sights? really?

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Vell
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 1:23:14 PM
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Me and 2 other ppl played Friday (3 total duh) on the demo; overall Friday played 3 straight ours from 4AM til 7 when I had to go to work. had HELLLLLA fun. Saturday 5 hrs + varying groups of ppl minimum 2 max 8 (a couple of times it said we had too many ppl and I had to remove party members to keep it under 9) 2 out of 20-30 ppl that played it didnt like the control scheme (can't make every 1 happy) majority of every 1 WANTS this game just from the demo alone!!!! including me. for the demo, it even has mic support (for the record i haven't been able to use my PS eyecam mic on any game except this!!!! but it's a demo and the mic worked. scarey momemnts when species war is going on and every 1 is massacreing each other. while u are killing some 1 - some 1 sneeks u from behind and u take it up the tailpipe!!! :( game is BEASSSST - a must buy imo.

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Vell
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 1:24:45 PM
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in addition. final game has multiplayer & 3 single player campaigns (marine/alien/predator) yall stop crying because the demo wasn't single player (IT'S A DEMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) yeesh

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 4:17:43 PM
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@Vell, try re-reading our posts again & again till you're fully able/or willing, to comprehend us.

Nobody's complaining about there being no SP mode IN THE GAME!

"WE'RE COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE A SP MODE IN THE"DEMO", especially since some of us rather not play MP modes.

Understand yet?

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rogers71
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 6:16:29 PM

@BikerSaint,
I think Vell is one of the aforementioned "Twitch gamers" with Attention Deficit Disorder. You can't expect someone to read all the posts, I mean that would be way too hard and take way too much time. Right?

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The_Duke
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 4:46:13 PM
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How do you let a mulriplayer demo go out without realizing the mathmaking dosent work?! fail, I wont buy a game that is this poorly put together... its a stiff market, get it right the first time especially the demo that is to sell the game to the masses

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 11:33:42 PM
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@rogers71,
LOL
Yeah, I think you've hit the nail dead center, & I just noticed how he writes, yup, just like one of those overly-excited tween's just like the 7 year old in the apt above mine, that's always got to be banging on something as he races from one room to another all frigging day long.

It there ever was a good reason for a industrial strength R/X of Ridilin, he is it!

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