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EA: No Dev For Online Multiplayer Can Compete With DICE

Think the Call of Duty franchise has cornered the online gaming market? Think no other title could ever compete with the likes of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2? Well, if yes, EA is going all Judas Priest on you by saying quite clearly, "you got another thing comin'."

In a recent PSM3 hands-on preview of Battlefield: Bad Company 2, they said it was the "best online game" of the generation yet, and even better than the supposedly superior Modern Warfare 2. As soon as we saw this, we were reminded of EA's claim late last year, that they weren't afraid of CoD and that Bad Company 2 could "easily compete" with MW2. And now, they're reinforcing that claim by adding more fuel to the fire: according to MCVUK, EA product manager Will Graham has upped the ante yet again.

"DICE is at the forefront of defining the multiplayer and online vehicle warfare space and has substantial pedigree in this area following many years of success. We genuinely believe there isn't a developer out there that competes with DICE in this space, and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is going cement that. The use of vehicles in Battlefield: Bad Company 2 sets it apart from the competition and no one else in the industry does this better.

This is also something the core are very excited about: DICE's history of delivering a multiplayer experience utilising vehicles is something that sets it apart from anything else in the market. It's also an element that fits with the increasing emphasis on multiplayer for gamers in general."

DICE is a damn good developer. There's no doubt that BC2 will be a damn great game. But how many are about to say EA's production is actually a better online shooter than MW2? Well, one of these games in question isn't even out yet, so perhaps we shouldn't pass judgment and besides, there are people who don't like MW2, believe it or not. It's great to see EA really supporting their products, though; they've come a long way since 2007.

Related Game(s): Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2/18/2010 9:14:27 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (120 posts)

Akuma07
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:48:33 PM
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Becoming proud of you EA.

The online multiplayer experiences would still be somewhat different between MW2 and BC2 wouldnt it?

BC2 has vehicles in it, something i cant see MW ever having.

BC single-player was fun enough =D

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:51:33 PM

Well the one difference you'll see is far less hacking and false modding of the original content. MW2 is plagued with one shot kills to the foot and hackers.

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Nickjcal
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:07:22 PM

EA's really suprised me within the last 2 years. Im very happy with most of their games theyve realeased. Keep them coming

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johnld
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:20:42 AM

exactly, theyre trying to compete with modern warfare 2 because it doesnt have vehicles, not counting the killstreak rewards. For me, im playing mag all the way.

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Lazytrappin
Saturday, February 20, 2010 @ 7:51:46 PM

Believe the hype. Battlefield is back and is about to dominate the online scene. I wasn't a big fan of the first installment but they have done something great with this one. I love the gameplay, the size of the map in the demo, and the physics. This is a much better experience than Modern Warfare 2, and I've been an Infinity Ward junkie for years. Now I'm ready to roll with Dice. ;-)

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:50:13 PM
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Having played BF2 since 2005 I view DICE the same as I view Valve when it comes to online gaming, the best there is out there.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:34:36 PM

I hope all you that have down voted me get raped in hell by your ugliest relative.

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Alienange
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:41:08 PM

It's your own fault with your constant suckling of the Valve teats.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:47:06 PM

Mommy doesn't like me to go thirsty, I like being a good boy.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:43:51 AM

Valve must've done something in the past decade that I missed.

I mean, other than sit on their fat asses and make fun of the PS3, all the while making one game every five years that makes us go, "hey...is this 1995?"

;)

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randomname
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:54:11 AM

lol Nice one

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:17:49 AM

I'm setting up a Valve spotlight in my town so in case there is ever any trouble and I need Ben to come to the rescue I can turn it on and he'll be here within minutes. :)

I think you mean 1998, not 1995.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 10:24:01 AM

Nah, even when it was 1998 I was thinking Valve was still in 1995.

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RekeHavick
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 3:53:20 PM

Thanks you guys! I've been having a lousy couple of days and I haven't stopped laughing at this one... 1995! HAHAHAHA
Ben - you're all right!!

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BikerSaint
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:50:26 PM
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Well, let hope it's true, because really we need developers to step up & keep 1-upping all the other competition with each new game they make.

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WolfCrimson
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:16:39 AM

lol Bikersaint nice pic

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LightShow
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:50:48 PM
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I put BC against MW back in the day, BC blew it out of the water, least according to me. history repeats itself, this'll be a preorder for me.

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BikerSaint
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 3:20:50 AM

@WolfCrimson,
That's "Demon Dog's" alter ego, showing off his softer side...all warm & cuddly, don't ya think????.

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OtisFeelgood
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:50:50 PM
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What the hell is EA smoking??? That BC2 demo was nowhere near as good as MW2. Not even as good as the beta version of MAG. This is all my opinion of course.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:26:07 PM

but one is a demo and one is a full game.

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OtisFeelgood
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:27:43 PM

I also said it wasn't as good as the beta version of MAG.

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SnipeySnake
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:27:12 PM

I actually like it more then MW2 and MAG's beta.

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:36:56 AM

bc2 is not that great. i can't get jiggy with it.

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OtisFeelgood
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:32:00 PM

Yeah, its far from great but oh well.

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Kr3sn1k
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 3:42:25 PM

a beta isnt no where the same as a demo..... and id hat to be the first to say this but mag came short on so many aspects i dont feel it was worth the 60 doolars i gave for it i know for a fact that bfbc2 will blow modern warfare 2 away

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OtisFeelgood
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 9:17:07 PM

"i know for a fact that bfbc2 will blow modern warfare 2 away"

lol You know for a FACT? If you say so...

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Titch1794
Sunday, February 21, 2010 @ 1:49:46 PM

I agree with Otis.
There's nothing BC2 offers that MW2 offers twice as better (unless you count the unfair advantage that the vehicles give people)
IMO MW will always be better than BC for the fact that MW is revolutionary with the killstreaks and camo unlocks and stuff like that and there just isn't anything unique about BC IMO.

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Hezzron
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:54:56 PM
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We get it EA, you want your game to be mentioned along with MW2 as much as possible. However, it's a little more impressive when someone else other than the game's publisher goes on about how great it is.

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Hezzron
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:24:48 PM

Oh, and one more thing.....

That's a lot of crowing about "multiplayer" coming from a publisher that is notorious for shutting down the online features in their games fairly early.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:50:59 PM

I'm still playing BF2 online and it's going on 5 years now...

If you're referring to their sports servers shutting down than I think it's only fair you mention that or you're misleading people. I see nothing wrong with shutting down servers for a sports game hardly anyone is playing anymore.

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Alienange
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:55:44 PM
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Who are these fools that don't like MW2? Point them out to me! I'm camped and ready to snipe their asses.

As for Dice, they do make great games, but why do their soldier's move so slow? The BC2 demo was a bit jarring after playing a couple hours of MW. As for vehicles, well... I prefer being on foot.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 9:56:34 PM

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!

::dead::

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Alienange
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:12:21 PM

One down. Who's next?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:26:57 PM

I bid my blade to that list.

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Alienange
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:37:24 PM

Ok... steeeeeady, steeeeeadyyy

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Karosso
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:48:36 PM

Me too, couldn't even finish single player on the first one :)

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Jawknee
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:18:45 PM

Cant me too.

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main_event05
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 2:50:19 AM

I hated MW. I went with Vegas and Vegas 2 over that. hoping for another R6. Hopefully in Chicago or L.A.

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Alienange
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:09:40 PM

I'm going to need another clip...

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dkmrules
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:07:34 PM
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Yeah MW2 is better in my opinion, more game modes, better weaponry, and quite frankly I am not a huge fan of vehicles. Even with practice on Bad Company I STILL cannot fly the damn helicopter worth SHIZZ!!!!! (That may just be me though) :-)

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Alienange
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:43:58 PM

I took the controls of that chopper in BC only once. My teammates were none too happy about it. Decided to just run around and shoot trees after that handling fail.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:49:07 PM

That's what's great about it. I can pick up MW2 and destroy within minutes, big whoop. DICE makes games you have to practice and master.



Oh and Valve.

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Qubex
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:08:55 PM
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I beg to differ; whilst I will not discount or belittle what DICE has achieved with this excellent title we need to cast our minds around a bit before agreeing whole heartedly with such a statement...

Reason I say this is quite simple... for me Killzone 2 and now Uncharted 2 have been the best online experiences for me to date. I have spent countless hours on Killzone 2 and now I am getting into Uncharted 2 online. I feel their engines are amazing, and more than up to the task of doing similar if developed to do so... given enough time, if the team had included a vehicular component I think these latter titles would be tough to beat...

Now I hear you all saying, "Well, they never did include vehicular components..." That is true my friends, but bare in mind... that Killzone 3 and Uncharted 3 should remedy this... the technology and engines have what it takes, they just need to implement these options that is all... so yes, whilst BC2 does it now, it does not mean that other games or any less good at what they do online, maybe just different... that is how the ol'Wizard sees it...

Oh... and even more importantly... lest us not forget MAG!?!?!?!

Q!

"i am home"

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Alienange
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:26:40 PM

It doesn't drive you nuts that you can't sprint in UC2? It makes me absolutely crazy in the head when I can't move faster than another player.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:29:09 PM

A sprint would be very much welcomed.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:35:48 PM

I love the auto run feature in WKC. You simply tap the L1 trigger and you keep running without having to hold a button down.

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Qubex
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:30:05 PM

Alienange... yes, you make a very good point!

Q!

"i am home"

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johnld
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:30:36 AM

@Limited
ahh, thats why my guy runs around by itself sometimes. thanks man, i thought my controller was crapping out. I beat the game 2 times, i regular and 1 new game+ and still never found it. What pisses me off right now is that guild ranks take forever to level up, especially 7->8

as for Killzone 2 and uncharted 2, i find them amazing and i wouldnt change a thing about them. I dont want vehicles in killzone 2 at all because you'll just end up with halo style gameplay where everyone just goes for the vehicle and drive nonstop. as for uncharted 2 sprint button, i never found a need for it. game is amazing as is.

I have been playing white knight chronicles and MAG lately and tried going back to killzone 2. the games are so different that it takes a while to adjust. once im done with MAG and before i start FF13, imma go back and play uncharted 2 and killzone 2 again.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:43:29 AM

@John

You're right guild ranks take forever to get to after rank 5 but I honestly just devote myself and some buds to grinding it out against the Fire Troll in the desert quest. It only takes us 3 minutes to complete the quest since we're at such high levels.

Also if you want to lvl up really fast just quest by yourself. Whether you win or lose the quest you keep all your experience, items, and money.

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spiderboi
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 5:54:22 AM

Only 1 thing I didn't like about Killzone 2: it seems there's a bit of delay on my controller action to on-screen reaction. But I like that however pimped you are in your badges, one headshot can still put you out. For MW2 and UC2 I've had several instances of headshots not registering (creeping up somebody from behind then directly aiming for the head. 1 shot!. still alive. 1 shot! alive still. Oh hell... *Guns blazing*)

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geovanwitdakick
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:12:27 PM
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@ OtisFeelGood,

I totally agree. The multiplayer demo for Bad Company 2 was actually horrible in my opinion. The framerate is very low compared to MW2, & the graphics are really lacking. Didn't see much towards any type of customization & I think that the fact that EA/DICE has only allowed one review to be made public, they have to be hiding other reviews, & building the hype for this game based on Game Informers review. Just my theory. I know, I know, can't judge based on the demo, the multiplayer is glitch-proof or whatever, the first Bad Company's story mode is longer, but I doubt it'll beat MW2 when it comes to multiplayer. This'll be a pass for me.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:31:50 PM
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They are gonna have to go the MS route and pay some other people to say nice things about it, you can't just talk up your own product and expect people to believe you all the time. I'm FPSed out until Resistance 3 so I don't give much of a rip but hey guys, don't get bogged down in the need to make EVERYTHING a massive multiplayer experience. You still have to squeeze it all onto a DVD9.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:35:02 PM

Still using that crap notebook, eh?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:58:28 PM

You talking bout my PC? I was saying they are gonna hafta make this thing fit onto the format for a lesser console.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:24:55 PM

I understood what you were getting at. Sorry I didn't explain my comments further. You mentioned you were tired of FPS and it made me wonder if you still had thee ole junker.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:58:18 PM

You know I don't PC game, stop peer pressuring me!

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maxpontiac
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 10:46:35 PM
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Sorry, I'll take MAG, thank you very much..

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Qubex
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:32:01 PM

That is what I mean... I think MAG stands up heads and shoulders over a lot of shooters... now imagine a MAG version of Killzone...

Q!

"i am home"

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Qubex
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:33:40 PM

...also, i had to make a choice... after playing the BC2 demo I quickly decided to invest in GoWIII... I just have to support the Sony 1st party studios... they are the life blood of our beloved machine... and with out them it would be a green and white world... the 3sixty robots would rule... and we don't want that do we now?

Q!

"i am home"

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:37:22 PM

I personally want the 360 to continue to exist. Competition leads to competitive pricing and quality.

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Jawknee
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:48:12 PM

They need to add blue ray or something. Capcom admitted that they had to cut a bunch of stuff out of Lost Planet 2 because they couldnt fit it on the DVD.

Guess what though?! they are going top be kind enough to sell it separately as DLC. =)

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:47:21 AM

@ jawknee



that's bs i read about capcom givin us the shaft cause the 360 lacked space. we whould not have to suffer cause MS decided not to move forward this generation. just for that remark capcom said about LP2 i'm not even picking that up out of the bargin bin.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:50:01 AM


Capcom retracted their previous statements and no longer are putting the blame on the limitations of DVD format.

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 8:12:04 AM

they're probably gettin back lash now for admitting tryin to force feed us that damn DLC. we're not dumb we know dvd9's are not big enough

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Naztycuts
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:26:50 PM
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Let's hope they impress, I dont think they are marketing right though. I'm not a big shot CEO of a gaming company but I don't think mw2 and BFBC2 relate much in the online aspects from what I could tell from the BFBC2 demo, the maps are still way too big IMO it still takes entirely too much to kill people is a 1 shot sniper kill too much to ask? (other than headshots) Also unless you have killstreaks you won't get the adrenaline junkies off of mw2. You know they got to keep the kill/death ratio on the up and up.

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iGraves1
Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 11:39:23 PM
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I have been playing the demo a lot and loving it. I decided to play a few matches of MW2 about two days ago and after 10 matches of camping, dual wielding, and infinite care packages I remembered why I stop playing it.

I'm not saying that it's a bad game but it does have too may problems to overlook. And the horrible servers don't help either(3 out of 5 times host migration doesn't work!!).

I like the fact that B:BC2 is more squad based and concentrates in teamwork, instead of just run,shoot,run,shoot,run,shoot,die or camp,shoot,camp,shoot,killstreak,camp,shoot,killstreak,camp,shoot,nuke.

BTW I'm not an angry gamer that sucks at MW2, I'm not pro material at all, but also not a noob either. I am a good enough player to know when a game has broken multiplayer.

Edit:
Just wanted to add: EA I don't like the way you are speaking about this game. It reminds of Microsoft talking about how Forza is better than Gan Turismo, it just makes you look bad IMO.

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OtisFeelgood
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:04:24 AM

There was another patch that was released recently that FINALLY fixed the infinite care package exploit. And I agree about the servers.

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Jawknee
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:52:16 AM

whats that like patch 30.0?

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:21:33 AM

The patch to fix the care package exploit was hacked less than a day after its release.

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Jawknee
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 2:55:48 AM

ha!

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iGraves1
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 3:14:48 AM

@ LV I remember downloading that patch, then just a few hours later I saw a group of people getting infinite turrets.

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OtisFeelgood
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:33:05 PM

There was another patch released a couple days ago that fixed the exploit. Haven't seen any issues since.

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___________
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:26:59 AM
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this is exactly why i hate EA.
they have the WORLDS! biggest mouth, they just do not know when to shut the f**k up.
ok we get it, you are confident, no adiment that battlefield bad company 2 has better MP than MW2.
ok we get it, you dont have to chime on about it for 2 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 2 fu***ng years!
GET OVER IT ALREADY!
EA are lucky i really want to play this because their about 2cm away from talking me out of a sale.
just like dan greenwalt and his fat mouth did with forza 3.

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Jawknee
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:39:25 AM

"they just do not know when to shut the f**k up."

uh huh.....

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yak4life85
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:44:41 AM

What's wrong with them talking good about their games? I personally cant wait for bfbc 2. I enjoy mw2 also but the first bfbc got me hooked on their online play. So I do think bfbc 2 will have the best overall online play, even better than mw2.

If you dont want to buy it then dont! Plain and simple!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:46:32 AM

You need to like...calm down.

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Jawknee
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:51:25 AM

whats it matter to you anyway no name? your going to buy it play it and return it in a week for your money back anyways as your so proudly announced to the rest of us who actually pay for our games the right way.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:17:33 AM

And everyone knows Activision's Bobby Kotex has the biggest mouth.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:23:11 AM

Geesh the guy gets a new bodyguard (Roach) and now he's all huffy puffy.

Speaking of Roach where is the guy, he's usually moments away from backing up his internet bud.

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___________
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 6:55:03 AM

im cool as a cucumber.
i just hate it when people brag like a spoilt brat.
they just have to slice the wound open and keep rubbing salt in it, enough it enough, say its better thats fine that move on.
honestly they have been bagging MW2 ever since IW announced that MW2 will not have dedicated servers.
thats how many months? 4?
lets go with 4.
so for 4 straight months all they have been able to say to promote BFBC2 is its better than MW2, or our title will have dedicated servers.
im not a parrot. i dont need reminding every 5 minutes.
the industry has turned into freaking 8 year olds playing the willy waving game.
instead of explaining why you should play my game instead of theirs ill just insult theirs.
im sorry, at which point did politicians become game developers?
i missed that transition.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 6:58:41 AM

Are you typing on a Dr Seuss typewriter?

Seriously, you space at random spots and end your sentences all over the place. I'm honestly fascinated by your inability to write anything of coherent value.

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:57:00 AM

no name guy you have a point. they need to just let the game speak for itself and stop running off at the mouth. they can talk till they're blue in the face about how much better their game is but gamers have the final word

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:25:28 PM

lol, Vertigo you stole my thoughts. I was gonna remark on that very thing.

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Bloodysilence19
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:05:33 AM
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i agree it could dethrone mw2 online easily just cause of two things one the vehicles and another destructible environment.destructible environments was the main reason why i liked bfbc 1. cause whats better than blowing up a wall where a camper hides behind. another its funny and bad ass to blow up a complete building n watch its collapse on your opponent.i cant stop playing the demo i already of course pre order my copy of bfbc2.i will admit though first bfbc did suck online, single player was better.if you played bfbc1 and playing bfbc 2 demo now u can literally see improvements what they did in bfbc2.
Battlefield Bad Company 2 FTW!!!!!!

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johnld
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:37:03 AM

i believe its already been dethroned by MAG, but sadly not much people will admit it because its an exclusive game. if MAG was multiplatform, it would kick MW2 and BF:BC2 ass, not to mention the game would be nonexistent since its can only be done with ps3.

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BeezleDrop
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:53:08 AM
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MAG is pretty awesome actually, but like LV I have been playing BF2 for years. To be honest, you do not really need to do much to top MW2's MP, I could only stand a few days of it, hell, I kept it around in case my friends wanted to play Spec-Ops and thats it. For FPS I respect KZ2's engine, and the Frostbite engine.

@________(a.k.a Negative Nancy)
Why do you only complain about everything when you decide to post? I mean what is the point? It doesn't matter if you want to buy BC2 or not, maybe you can accept the fact that DICE has crafted an amazing shooter and is damn proud of it. If you do not care to read about how excited they are about BC2, THEN DO NOT READ THE ARTICLE.

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Jawknee
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 2:19:32 AM

Precisely.

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___________
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:01:15 AM

ok they have made a fantastic shooter does that mean they have to talk sh*t about infinity ward every day of the week?
i dont see naughty dog talking sh*t to the developers who made lara croft.
i dont see bungie talking sh*t to GG.
i dont see epic talking sh** to insomniac.
just because you made a better game than anyone else does not give you the right to brag about it and talk sh*t about others creations.
for once i would like to hear a developer explain why THEIR game is better, not why the competitions worse.
every single time i hear a developer get asked why should people buy your game instead of game x they will talk sh*t about game x and not mention a thing about their own.
only developer who has not done that is visceral, when they were asked that in reference to GOW they were quite flattered and said only good things about GOW and actually mentioned things that make DI differ to GOW.
thats what a developer should act like, professional, modist, tame.
not like a a$$ who are so full of themselves.
dan greenwalt for example.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 10:22:30 AM

Dude, WHAT are you talking about? EA isn't "talking sh**" to anybody. They never even mentioned Infinity Ward or Call of Duty in that source. They just said they think DICE is the best at what they do.

Do you even READ what's written?

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___________
Sunday, February 21, 2010 @ 4:51:23 AM

yea sure ben they have never, ever talked sh** about either IW or MW2.
rolls eyes.

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Imagi
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 3:27:11 AM
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The Battlefield series has been govong solid online performance for years, the latest bad company is the most fun yet.

To all those MW2 players and other newbie's 'n' nobs, here is a vid that will help a whole lot.

http://www.pixelenemy.com/2010/02/how-not-to-be-a-noob-at-battlefield-bad-company-2/

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BikerSaint
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 3:40:23 AM
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He's looking for free cheese to go with all that whine!


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www
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 5:22:48 AM
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I tried the demo its good, dunno if its better than MW2, still worth picking up if you sleep in money.

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stemon
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 5:50:02 AM
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Good stuff EA Bad company is WIN in my book the demo is amazing .... and that is only one area lol also MW2 the UI it far to messy to much crap on the screen I like a nice clean screen for my FPS's

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SympoziumPawa
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 5:56:50 AM
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What? thats completely unreliable information everyone knows Warhawk is the greatest online shooter ever :D

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frostface
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 5:59:53 AM
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I play MAG alot now and the chatter I hear alot over the air on that game is that most people prefer MAG to MW2. Plenty will disagree with that, probably based off just playing on the demo or an hour or two on it's release. You also have vehicles in MAG although it's still not the same as the BF:BC series. My point is that, although MW2 has a massive fanbase, there's a substantial number of people who are sick of MW2 and are looking for another alternative. I honestly believe that BF:BC2 can offer that and in great style.
I personally prefer the first BF:BC to MW2, mainly because of the destructive environments and the use of vehicles.
There'll always be the die hard fans for the CoD MW series and thats cool, I can just see BF:BC2 really giving it a run for it's money.

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ohmikkie
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 6:21:00 AM

Totally agreed. I also have a theory that the majority of MW fans only (or mainly) play MW and probably not FPS fans in general. I've always preferred the older PC CODs.

The only thing I hope they add in the release version as a separate sensitivity adjustment for the y-axis.

I found aiming on the move a bit difficult on both PS3 & 360 demos.

Planning on getting both PS3 and PC version of BF:BC2

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tdinc1
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 6:48:47 AM
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EA and DICE sure do have a cocky attitude. cant compete??? HA!! Nobody cares for vehicle warfare........... Killzone 2 blows them out of the water. and is the most addicting FPS I have ever played. Cookie cutter FPS are a penny a dozen. Guerrilla Games is a better developer that most out there. wait til KZ3!! they will blow our minds!

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:01:15 AM

I'm wondering how many FPS you've played. KZ2 is a great game but it doesn't blow other FPS out of the water.

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ace_boon_coon
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 8:02:17 AM

kilzone 2 blows every fps this gen out of the water. just playin it you can tell guerilla put a lot of time into it.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 8:20:27 AM

Insert the word console before "fps this gen" and I may just agree with you.

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ohmikkie
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:28:03 PM

took the words out me mouth vertigo

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Zorigo
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 8:00:54 AM
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Um, BBC2 best online?
they're gonna hav a hell of a time shifting all the cod players, especially as the BBC2 hype doesn't compare to the COd hype.

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Imagi
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 3:05:20 PM

If players need hype to buy a game, can I opt to not have them on my side, I like to shoot sheep, not wallow with them in their own filth.

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Beamboom
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 10:55:00 AM
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... But what's the hype about multiplayer with vehicles? Unreal Tournament has had that since... Well, since last millennium or thereabouts.

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Bloodysilence19
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 11:04:07 AM
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@Imagi

just watched that vid of the link you put up.that was funny but true what the guy says lol.too many noobs on that game that think its like cod and don't know what their suppose to do on it.

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Nick Maim
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 11:05:47 AM
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Most of you guy in this forum don't seem to have much love for Battlefield series in general.. MW2 was a good game, it's just that Bad Company 2 is a completely different animal. A more complex one at that.

Total co-operation among your squad mates creates a whole different dynamic. You really get addicted to team play, all of you getting on a chopper, dropping down to capture outposts, while the chopper gives cover from above. Or one guy in a big Abrams tank advancing slowly, with one guy on the turret taking out infantry, one engineer fixing the tank as you progress, and one medic healing your squad as you go. As you play, you develop your own strategies on how to best defend or attack, and most people that play on a regular basis, catch on quick. And learning to fly a chopper properly, takes very little time, and once you catch on, oh man. What a rush..

Epic moments abound in Bad Company games. You just have to 'get it' and shed MW2 mentality. It doesn't take much.

Oh and on topic. The EA pr team are flapping their gums about how great BC2 is going to be, because it is going to be great.





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Beamboom
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 12:50:30 PM

Good post! And definitely got me more interested in bc2.

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Imagi
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 2:06:51 PM

Agree, BF games get the adrenalin pumping like no other, you do get moments that are simply priceless.

In the demo last night I was pinned down in a building by a chopper, 1 driver and 2 gunners. They were ripping people apart around me as idiot team mates ran blindly into the hailstorm of bullets that was coming down, I managed to tag the chopper, revive some guys, then run to another building picking up an rpg on the way and blow that bird out of the sky, was freaking amazing, what a rush.

All the hours that I have put into other shooters this gen came nowhere near the intense action that I had in those few minutes.

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Snorge
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 11:48:30 AM
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@ Limited

In my opinion, I think Killzone 2 is one the best FPS I've played to date....the atomsphere, game modes, and just overall fun factor is second to none...I admit though, MAG has been taking away my Killzone time, but those are two different beasts.

Dont get it twisted though man, I've played many FPS on Ps3, 360, and PC. Haven't had a chance to try the Crysis multiplayer, but Killzone has some of the very best visuals to date and this game has been out for over a year...and for those of you that still play it (Killzone 2) there is no better way to play than without the HUD (permitting game mode.

As you should be able to tell, im not a COD fan. I DID purchase it but I was not impressed. Mag.....Sleeper game..*bows out* lol

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Day_v
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:09:59 PM
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I have been playing the BFBC2 demo for a few days, and im absolutely loving it. Especially the vehicular component. And im thinking thats one section of the map. It has great potential, really fun online experience.

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Imagi
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 1:45:10 PM
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I don't quite understand the level of hate animosity that is shown towards the battlefield guys. The people at DICE have been producing very good, on-line multi-player games for years. They don't churn out re-hashed versions of the same game every few months like some.

I have read some of the development and technical papers by DICE and they should quite rightly be making a allot noise about their game. These guys have made a fantastic engine and great game, and actually do something with the genre, taking it forward.

They are way ahead of the other developers with their netcode, this is not a static map the size of a carpark where gravity somehow does not exist! This is a large open space over varying terrain. Almost every object within can be reduced to dust, the ground you walk on deformed and the sound of a tank in the next valley heard echoing as it would around you as if you were really their.

Give credit where credit is due, you ungrateful lot.

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animalmother
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 @ 9:06:46 AM

Don't lose to inferiority my man. I love MW2 and MAG but still LOVE 1943. That game is going nowhere and matter a fact i think im gonna grab some action now.

Im also going to buy BFBC2 as soon as i can because while i love other games, nothing is like BF.

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buckoboy1
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:40:57 PM
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i couldnt agree more with the first paragraph... i played the demo and all i can say is GOODBYE COD

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buckoboy1
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 7:41:04 PM
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i couldnt agree more with the first paragraph... i played the demo and all i can say is GOODBYE COD

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Snaaaake
Friday, February 19, 2010 @ 11:54:15 PM
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BC2 is very very promising, I had some fun with the demo but I'll wait for the price to drop because FPS isn't my number one love.

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Day_v
Saturday, February 20, 2010 @ 11:50:17 PM
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Why is everyone talking about the demo in past tense. " i played" "i had". Its still on till 25th feb, the (killing ppl) continues.

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realmadpuppy
Monday, February 22, 2010 @ 11:46:03 PM
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To me the gameplay is different between MW2 and BC2, whereas BC2 is more tactical and really requires you to play with your team. MW2 is more a twitch shooter where every player runs around like they have a hot poker jammed up their posterior.

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animalmother
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 @ 9:01:58 AM

That depends, i never run around which is also why i don't use marathon as good as it is. I don't run much.

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animalmother
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 @ 9:01:23 AM
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Stop the arguing lol. I have MAG, MW2 and had the BFBC2 Demo til i needed the space. ALL 3 are awesome games and different from each other. I still love MAG and MW2 but STILL play 1943 as i love that games ability to drive a vehicle or pilot a fighter plane.

Obviously EA can't have people piloting F18s or Mig 29s given the speed they fly at without the use of afterburners which would force EA to have massively, too big, flying space. So thats understandable, but flying those fighters in 1943 once in a while is fun and no i am not a fighter whore.

I plan on buying this too soon, but thats because i have only 2 tastes for gaming, shooters, racing and MGS.

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