Platinum Games Using PS3 As Lead Platform For Vanquish
VanquishWe all make mistakes. The key is to recognize the error of our ways and repent.
As most of you know, Platinum Games' new project is Vanquish, a slick-looking futuristic shooter that could become a huge sleeper hit. However, PlayStation 3 owners recognize Platinum for Bayonetta, which unfortunately didn't fare well on Sony's machine after being ported over from the Xbox 360 by Sega. Therefore, when they announced this new game, PS3 fans were instantly skeptical. Well, there's no need for skepticism because according to 1Up, the PS3 is actually the lead platform for Vanquish. When Sega and Platinum showed off their shooter at a press event in Tokyo last week, everyone saw that the game was running on Sony's console. Said game director Shinji Mikami:
"We're leading development on PS3. Obviously each console has its own unique requirements and limitations, but we feel if we can create a good enough presentation on PS3, we'll be off to a good start."
Mikami added that development actually began on the PC, but quickly shifted to the PS3. They may not even release a PC version of the game at this point; Mikami said that "any sort of possible PC version is undecided at this point," and they're currently focusing on the PS3 and 360. Obviously, we don't have to worry about another lacking port; the team has decided they won't shortchange PS3 owners again and they clearly want to take advantage of the PS3's hardware. Great news, no?
Related Game(s): Vanquish
3/4/2010 9:07:48 PM John Shepard
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Kowhoho
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 9:43:23 PM
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With regards to whether or not Bayonetta "fared well" on the PS3, it depends on what you mean. Obviously it is a port so it didn't fare well graphically, but from a sales perspective the game had a larger opening for PS3 because of the Japanese release! PS3 owners enjoy the hell out of action games: confirmed!
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BikerSaint
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 9:46:06 PM
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I now recant my prior "Gimped up copy" rant.
All is now well in Bikertown.
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rogers71
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:58:04 PM
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Snaaaake
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 9:46:10 PM
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Now all that's left is the gameplay footage.
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BikerSaint
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 12:14:37 AM
DD's still there,
He's been dianosed with multiple personality disorder.
So now he's on this new kick to show off all the many "alters" he's found within.
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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 9:47:52 PM
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Snaaaake
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 9:51:31 PM
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geovanwitdakick
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 9:49:45 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:00:01 PM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:07:49 PM
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I hate to say it, but that's why I sometimes wish the 360 somehow, had been able to go with Bluray too.
If for no other reason, I'm thinking that had that happened, then any games that were still ported over from the 360 wouldn't have been so gimped-up by the 360's lesser discabilities, as some of them were.
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Qubex
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:18:37 PM
Not having a BR player doesn't mean the 360 cannot process similar amounts of data, or cannot scale up to 1080p if need be; it just means your delivery medium is crimped and therefore, if the game is long, the gaming assets like, for example, textures and model/environment complexity, would be somewhat "watered down".
No doubt though, technical prowess is limited to some degree. The PS3 cell and spe combination is very powerful. We see for example how full screen blooming effects or realtime focus pulling is all done on the spe/spu's rather than RSX. So visually, if a PS3 game engine is optimised to use the massive parallelism made available via the PS3 Cell/RSX combination, then we are seeing a far better quality exclusive product than a 360 could do... generally speaking... but it has to be engineered to do so, otherwise the games look pretty much the same...
Also, it needed, a publisher could release a 360 game on lets say 3 DVD 9's, the game in question may not even run off the disks, it may simply install a huge game file on the disk and decompress a large amount of data so that in totality, if uncompressed, the game disk would have actually taken 4 DVD 9's instead of 3 when boxed. If this were the case you would have 50GB game like we see with some of the PS3's top exclusives...
It all depends on the engineering and what the publisher wants to do...
But as you say, overall, a publisher will think twice stamping out 3 to 5 DVD's for a game... so Blu Ray is better overall...
Q!
"speak to the droid"
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Qubex
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 12:40:46 AM
Q!
"speak to the droid"
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Roach721
Saturday, March 06, 2010 @ 4:07:08 AM
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sonic1899
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:12:41 PM
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Roach721
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 12:30:44 AM
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mbg77
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 7:54:45 AM
Take care.
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Taha1
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 1:28:26 PM
that would never work as microsoft will not allow developers to have a mandatory install and not all xboxes ship with a hard drive.
also sandbox games and the such would need to be run off the disc.
microsoft use some of the disc space for security and disc swapping would also not work for a 50 gig game because a lot of the stuff on cds would have to be the same; like the sounds, weapons, characters, voices etc.
so the developer would have say 3-5 gigs to work with?
how many discs would that require? lol
edit: posted twice so the comment below has been deleted
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BikerSaint
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 11:08:46 PM
Thanks for the info. I'm not tch savy so it's good to read up on You & highlanders techy comments.
As for the thumbs downers, no worries either way! LOL. I just have a few haters here that are curdled that I'm blunt & I've upset their little milk carts. And that I WILL always speak my mind instead of being just another one in their great herd of wool-fibered mammals.
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mike rlz
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:12:43 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:18:15 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:19:19 PM
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sonic1899
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:21:48 PM
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SvenMD
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:38:06 PM
Also the PS3 has been bitten before by crappy ports (Orange Box...yeargh). So hearing that it's being developed first on the PS3 is just a step in the right direction that maybe we wont get shafted.
I think president George W said it best - Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on, uh, sham on...
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
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sonic1899
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 11:09:33 PM
But even with footage and if it wasn't revealed to have the PS3 as the lead platform, it's likely to get the same reaction. Even you compared it to Halo on a previous post. However, I'm not going to degrade the game since I still don't know enough details, but after seeing its presentation, its trailer, it's hero and knowing the fact it's going to be a shooter, it's a no brainer than this is likely something we're all familiar with.
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BikerSaint
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 12:55:36 AM
Not sure if I'm one of those you were thinking about when you made that comment, but I could see where some of my prior posts may cause you & some others to think so.
But, if that is the case, then please let me set the record straight.
Although I've made many "Gimping" comments in the other threads(including this game) which could have been misconstrued as me being a fanboy, I'm far from it.
I have about eighteen consoles & hand-helds at last count & I still play every single one of them(except for my SNES, which I had to put away due to lack of space & AV Jacks). I also have well over 1400 games for all of those those systems.
Now with that said, I don't hate the 360 at all, matter of fact I'm a gamer first, so I'll play on any machine I can get my hands on.
But....I DO HATE the parent company, MS, and with a passion for all the problems they keep causing us to have because of the 360, and their shady deals.
Matter of fact, I have a 250gig COD WM2 skinned 360 bundle.
And although the number changes weekly due to what used games are at GS, at this moment I have exactly the same amount of 360 games as I do PS3 games, and that number is 64 games each.
And from my stop at GS last night I wound up on my 360 playing for a while, with my newest used copies of Blue Dragon, Halo 3, & Bomberman: Act Zero.
Just thought I'd let ya know.....
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cLoudou
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 1:42:27 AM
How much is the admission? I'll be sure to bring my bicycle in my basement. Ok, my mother's basement.
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Deleted User
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 5:04:13 AM
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@ Sonic1989
I don't see it as fanboyish or hypocritical. Or, at least, I can completely understand (it is obvious) why the PS3 being lead platform is such a positive thing to people here. It is because historically ports to PS3 have been bad. Avoiding this issue is obviously a plus to people here, so no hypocrisy, just a bit of wisdom derived from experience. So, yeah definitely understandable.
Edit: SvenMD
I see you fell into both pitfalls.
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SvenMD
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 7:18:05 AM
I DO think that Valve should take some responsibility for pawning their game to EA who didn't create a polished port, just as I think Platinum should take responsibility for letting SEGA create a crappy Boyonetta port for the PS3.
All 4 companies were involved and all 4 should be held accountable.
So don't tell me I fell into a "pitfall", when that pitfall is just your opinion.
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Deleted User
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 7:45:38 AM
In this case, it comes across from the article that it'll be the lead platform, so this game will have actual PlatinumGames developers helming it.
Shoddy professionalism on allowing the game to be released is debatable. I'd counter it by saying, well, Sega were the publishers on the Xbox 360 one, and the developers on the PS3 one. The publisher is the one with a lot of power in decision making. They set the deadlines to which the developer must adhere. The developer doesn't turn to the publsher if they port it and say "don't release this". That just wouldn't happen.
Can you imagine such a thing? The developers actually being listened to on such a thing? Such a concept should be how things work, but in reality the concept is laughable.
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mbg77
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 8:12:54 AM
Take care.
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mike rlz
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 11:48:14 AM
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Deleted User
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 12:28:58 PM
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BikerSaint
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 11:21:53 PM
Thanks for your info too.
Ya know....my 360's a 250gigger, so I even wasn't thinking about the arcade models without a HD..
And as long as I've been popping games into my Elite Deluxe, I never even noticed that's there's been no installs, but now that you've just mentioned it to me.....
I'm now like..... DUHHH???....why the hell didn't I notice that?????
And as for the other info, thanks, it's always good to learn more about the inner-working of my own damn machine. LOL
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 10:17:21 PM
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WolfCrimson
Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 11:19:25 PM
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kraygen
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 12:22:21 AM
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___________
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 12:31:57 AM
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fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
we have to many shooters as it is, you really need to do something special to stand out from the crowd, and to be honest i dont think they have what it takes to stand out.
release a crappy horror game and it will sell because there are very few horror games, but shooters well thats a different story.
as the famous eddy Murphy said starve a man for a week than give him a cracker and hes going to love that cracker.
feed him on nothing but high quality cuisine for a week, than give him a cracker and hes going to scoff at you.
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Jawknee
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 1:47:52 AM
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Bagmup
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 2:10:47 AM
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Ricochet
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 6:00:03 AM
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SHINJI MIKAMI IS THE MAN!
RE5 would've been a totally different game rather than the disaster that which was the "alternative" version to Lost Planet.
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JackC8
Friday, March 05, 2010 @ 8:01:01 AM
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That can't be right...can it?
Anyhow, too bad now all we're getting out of them is a shooter. I am just so incredibly bored with shooters. Seriously, if they had a brain in their head they would have given us the superior version of Bayonetta and used the xbox for the lead platform for FPS #8,975.
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Jawknee
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Thursday, March 04, 2010 @ 9:40:44 PM
Mikami is a genius. I'm going to keep an open mind about this title.
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