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GDC 10: Sony "Arc" Officially Named As PlayStation Move

It was unveiled at E3 last year but this new unveiling is a bit more official; it features the actual name of the product.

Previously rumored to be known as the "Arc," the new motion sensing technology will be called PlayStation Move. We received the press release not long after it was shown during Sony's press conference at this year's Game Developers Conference, and if you want some actual hands-on opinions, go visit Engadget. They're saying this dual unit will offer a "motion-based, high-definition gaming experience unlike anything on the market." We will also receive the sub-controller at the same time; it will be used in conjunction with the main motion controller for "intuitive navigation of in-game characters and objects." Of course, you will need the PlayStation Eye in order for Move to "move" and while we don't yet have pricing for the latter, they say the total setup will cost you less than $100. Furthermore, one of the reasons the technology was delayed from the spring to the fall was because Sony wanted some compatible titles available for the launch. And during the display of Move at GDC, they showed off Sports Champions, MoveParty, and Motion Fighters.

Here's the specifics of the release:

"The combination of the PS3 system and PlayStation Eye camera detects the precise movement, angle, and absolute position in 3D space of PlayStation Move motion controller, allowing users to intuitively play the game as if they themselves are within the game. PlayStation Move motion controller delivers unmatched accuracy through its advanced motion sensors, including a three-axis gyroscope, a three-axis accelerometer, and a terrestrial magnetic field sensor, as well as a color-changing sphere that is tracked by PlayStation Eye camera. Through PlayStation Move system, both fast and subtle motion can be detected, whether the user is swinging a tennis racket, or painting with a brush. With PlayStation Move motion controller, users can provide direct input through action buttons and an analog trigger, while receiving physical feedback from rumble functionality and visual feedback from the sphere's ability to display a variety of different colors. Furthermore, PlayStation Eye camera can capture the player's voice or image, enabling augmented reality experiences."

A grand total of 36 third-party developers and publishers are ready to support PlayStation Move and in fiscal year 2010, SCE Worldwide Studios will provide us with over 20 games "that are either dedicated to or supported with the PlayStation Move platform." So how's all this strike you?

3/10/2010 9:00:24 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (174 posts)

Highlander
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:41:31 PM
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'PlayStation Move' eh?

That's actually a pretty good name, no silly made up words from Sony...and it emphasizes the whole nature of the experience.

The software support sounds like it will be pretty darned good up front with so many third parties committed to it. I hope that Sony combines this with the 3D update and 3D TVs for some truly innovative 3D motion capture and gaming experiences.

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godsman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:50:03 PM

The fighting game has some good feedback too. Now imagine you meet some annoying kid in Uncharted multiplayer. Then you tell him to take it to the Playstation move boxing, and beat him up 1:1 motion. THAT is what I want to do.

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Oyashiro
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:53:54 PM

I think I would forgive SE of all past transgressions if they where to make Bushido Blade 3 with PSM support.

God I miss Bushido Blade. :(

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:16:41 PM

Already there's an acronym for PlayStation Move... lol seriously though, i can't wait to knock out those little kids who think they are all that on MW2...

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Bo0mKiiD
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:40:44 PM

The arena game looks sick. This of the wonders you could do in demon's souls 2.

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shadowpal2
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:53:09 PM

Did you guys happen to see Sony's conference live, because I did...and got to see SOCOM 4 using the PlayStation Move - and I have to admit IT WAS PRETTY DAMN BADASS and COOL.

As for Socom 4 itself...I can't really say since it was only a game demo used to show off the PlayStation Move so yea.

Excited for this...I may buy it if it's within the $50-$70 range.

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Orvisman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 9:04:44 AM

I'm with you on Bushido Blade. I loved that series. I think the developers of that series moved on to develop Kengo.

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godsman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:42:42 PM
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What does that $100 includes? I hope it's not just the Move and the Camera. Maybe 2 Move and 1 camera?

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eLLeJuss
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:11:40 PM

It'll come with a game too.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:16:21 PM

One camera, one controller, one dildo I think.

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:18:40 PM

lol It comes woth 1 game, 1 Dildo, and 1 eye, to record you playing with the dildo. You can buy another CL!T tickler for what i guess would be $49.99 CAD though... so its like buying a DS3 and a CE Game...

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:26:56 PM

ah come on... -1 me? dang you guys need 2 expand your sense of humor...

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:36:39 PM

With the ability to upload those vids to youtube the internet is about to get a lot nastier.

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Milonakis
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:18:04 PM

Canuck, don't ever tell me how to live my life.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:20:04 PM

lol, I had to thumb you up Canuck

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Bo0mKiiD
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:42:31 PM

lol at canuck 1 up for that. He's not telling you how to live your life. Now you seriously need a sense of humor.

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spiderboi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 5:43:00 AM

"thumb you up" *snicker* :)

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fluffer nutter
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 10:39:45 AM

I think a few people in this string have lost their sense of humor. Milonakis was joking, too. Can't we all just get along?
:p

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Gregory Freeman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:13:07 PM

thanks guys:P

I remember my grandfather telling me that back in the day, you could get away with alot that in todays society would be considered deviating greatly from the social norm... Including jokes, remarks, etc...

IMO Today's society needs to be a little less sensitive to subjects such as jokes, remarks, and even games... There is just too much going on in this world that, on a level of urgency and importance, trumps all those things.

But anyway as for the PSM, I'd love a release date... I cannot wait to have a "Wii" that can play games at 1080P 3D! My stance on natal is that if you don't have a tactile control interface of some variety, be it foot pedals or even small hand held devices, for a motion technology, you are almost bound to fail. Who wants to play games where you look like a goof flailing your empty hands constantly? lol at least with a controller, you have an idea that the person is playing a game :P

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Oxvial
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:44:45 PM
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I don't like the design =S.

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:19:37 PM

its not all that bad... at least its not EXACTLY like the wii (Wireless "Nunchuck" FTW)

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:45:28 PM
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I was completely uninterested in this thing until I heard today that the next PGA game will support it.

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Hezzron
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:06:29 PM

I've been playing Tiger Woods 10 on the Wii with Motion Plus. It's a fantastic game. The next iteration in that series will support the Move on the PS3 version. I can't wait.

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swapnilgyani
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:46:25 PM

With all the recent Tiger Woods escapades, they could include a level where the Move could be used for more than just swinging the golf stick :P

Imagine how well Kratos could use this in that minigame!!!

On a serious note though, I'd really like to see a ground-breaking tennis game to be developed around this technology.

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SmokeyPSD
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:46:04 PM
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from the footage of socom 4 compatiblity, and a such ease of added development support, im very excited about the possibilities

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redman479
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:47:12 PM
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I'm gettin it!

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:27:54 PM

So am I...

Q!

"speak to the droid"

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Vitron
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:53:18 AM

*drools*

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Roach721
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:40:32 PM

It's a must have in my book. Hope some great RTS games will be made with this..I think it looks awesome too.

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chedison
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:49:07 PM
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I actually like the design, other than the large glowing ball sitting on the top. But I like the smallness of the two objects and like the control design and setup. Im actually interested in this, and the fact that it comes with a PSEye for less than 100$ makes it a good deal imo.

Also very interested to see what games will support this technology. Just have to wait and see I guess....

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godsman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:51:32 PM

I'm just worried about the battery life, with that glowing ball constantly lit. It would be annoying to charge all 4 Move controllers in the current PS3's 2 usb ports.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:56:31 PM

As someone who works in the electronics field, I'll be first in line to tell you that the battery life will not be affected by the glowing ball. It takes more electricity to register button presses than it does to keep an LED lit.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:17:58 PM

As someone who knows nothing at all I can tell you Alienange is correct.

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eLLeJuss
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:25:49 PM

As someone who works in the biomedical field i can tell you alienage is right.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:33:00 PM

As someone who reads the comments section here I can say you guys made me lol.

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Bigtuna1
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 7:57:58 AM

Hey me too, don't meet too many BMETs.

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Milonakis
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:53:22 PM
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The move is such a retarded name. Other than that this looks pretty cool.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:55:02 PM

No. Wii is a retarded name. Move is in the dictionary.

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Highlander
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:05:39 PM

How? It's a motion controller that tracks movement - hence 'PlayStation Move'.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:18:24 PM

And it makes you move, get it?

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chedison
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:22:12 PM

they like simple. Play station. Eye. Move.

At least we know what the things do! Wtf is natal?

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:33:37 PM

Natal is a plastic bar that allows you to play pong and some other simple atari games with no controller.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:34:05 PM

You don't know what natal is? Is when you have boats and stuff.

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Oxvial
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:35:56 PM

I don't see nothing wrong with the name, better than arc,gem,natal IMO.

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godsman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:40:31 PM

Actually Wii is a really meaningful name. It's "We", it's a gaming device that brings the "I's" together. That is why you have the two "i's". It is the perverts online that call the Wii and Move dildos.

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archs13
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:59:01 PM

hahaha.. you know it's ironic what natal means in my language...

"adda ti natal na" (a person has a natal)

but then we also have a word

natalna - calm, peaceful

so far natal doesn't look like an accessory that requires calm movements.

but yeah, move is a better name!!!

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:33:10 AM

The first time I heard it, I was like, "hmmmmm."

It turns out to be a pretty good name actually. In my opinion of course.

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:36:10 AM

lol @ Alienage.

"Natal: It's not just for the sailors!"

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:56:22 PM
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I hope they'll also sell it as a cheaper stand-alone too, cause I've already got my PSEye on the Move.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:19:43 PM

They must have just the dildos for people who want to have extra ones.

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chedison
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:43:33 PM

How many do you have in your collection WWW?

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Imagi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:30:05 PM

If you need that ball to fill yer hole, you are beyond dildos. Now, who's for some melon?

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migabyte
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:07:25 PM
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I am not a big fan of the wii. But my GF has been bugging me forever to get a wii, I showed her this, and she is excited. I will probably be getting one. The price is right. The games look OK, it looks like most of them will only be fun for a few hours though. As long as Sony keeps making normal games I'm fine with this diversion, saves me 100$.

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vicious54
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 10:37:22 AM

Where is everyone on this one? Nothing like getting something that will please your GF, right?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 4:24:34 PM

um please her HOW?

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:10:54 PM
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OOPS, never mind, my earlier question,
I just found the pricing in this other Engadgets article.

You'll be able to get Move in three ways:

in a bundle with a PS3,

standalone

and in a starter kit targeted at "under $100" with the PS Eye, a controller, and a game.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/10/playstation-move-motion-controller-launched-at-gdc/

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:44:42 PM

Well, I had found the the price scheduling (above) & the link to it, but just awaiting a mod to OK it

Anyway, it said you WILL be able to buy it with a game, or as a full kit with the eye, as a stand alone, or bundled with a PS3.

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Vitron
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:56:36 AM

wow biker, how many dogs do you have?

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inkme101
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:11:51 PM
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my question is: will i need two moves to play some games? if you saw the footage of motion fighters at gdc today the guy had 2 moves in his hands also in the gladiator game too. its gonna cost a fortune for 2 player on those games if ive got to have 2 per person. u know? they didnt say whether or not if the sub-controller had motion tech. i am assuming not since it doesnt have the glowing ball. to me this sounds like it may become expensive. although i am kinda hyped for its release.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:20:45 PM

Well, did both hands have a glowing ball in em?

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inkme101
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:26:56 PM

ya they did. not 1 move and a sub controller. 2 moves. if its bundled with 2 of each im cool. but otherwise they can piss off.

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inkme101
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:28:36 PM

they used 2 moves for archery, fighting and gladiator fighting the only thing they showed the sub-controller for was socom 4 and its just an analog stick and buttons. didnt appear to utilize any motion tech at all. you gotta figure itll probably be bundled with the "wii sports like game" and a couple of the mini games on it were showed using 2 dildos. if it doesnt come bundled with 2 then sony is a bunch of d1cks!

that would be like the wii requiring 2 wii motes for a single player experience and only coming bundled with one wii mote. and since sony "really want to treat this as a stand alone console" they need to bundle correctly!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:24:33 PM

Yeah there should be at least 2, but I'm sure they will try to syphon off money by not doing that but selling extras separately. I still wish a DS3 controller would cost less than $50.

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johnld
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:24:37 AM

i think they said they were still not sure on what they'll do with the "nunchuck" so they could possibly add stuff to it when it launches.

@world
the cheapest i saw a ds3 was at frys for 49.99. The funny thing was that price was only for the black controllers, if you wanted a different color, its 55 bucks. basically you're paying 5 bucks more for a different color controller which does the exact same thing. hahaha

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Orvisman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 9:19:06 AM

Except that if you need to buy a second Wiimote, and you do because the Wii only comes with one, then you have to buy a second nunchuck too (maybe a third and fourth depending on how many players you have in your house), which Ninty sells separately. It runs around $60 to buy a complete second Wii controller.

If you want to play the games that support Wii Motion +, then you need to shell out another $50 for two units (or more depending on the number of players in the house) just to give you more accurate control, which should have been standard from the start, that Ninty claims is 1:1 -- I have it, and believe me it isn't 1:1.

And you say Sony is a bunch of dicks if they make you buy a second unit... Ninty and M$ft bleed their customers dry.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 7:19:56 PM

@Vitron,
HMMM, let me see now.....talk about Multiple Personality Disorder
I think at last count, Demon Dog's been diagnosed with around 17,426 different ones............(so far).
LOL

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:13:18 PM
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Good luck with this device Sony, I won't be buying one.

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:28:46 PM

The Force will eventually move you LV :)

Q!

"speak to the droid"

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Vitron
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:58:40 AM

yeah, the name was already tempting

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eLLeJuss
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:14:48 PM
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When they showed the game where the girl had to trace the inside of the circle and paint it or something, it looked like she was having a bit of trouble cause she did it a few times before she got it. Of course its probalby not the finished product yet. They will proably fix it to be more precise.

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:36:04 PM

Has 1:1 tracking if the girl couldn't paint the circle, then she probly couldn't do it with a pencil either.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:21:48 PM
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Hmm, I might get this for my dad. He's 63 now.

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NoSmokingBandit
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:25:32 PM
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I just hope we dont get flooded with shovelware crap like the Wii.

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migabyte
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:28:26 PM
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I hope some of these games are PSN games, I don't want to be paying 60$ for an hour of fun and years of collecting dust.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:35:00 PM
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I want EA Sports Active 2.0

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:10:36 AM

yes.

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Oxvial
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:36:42 PM
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The street boxing game lag its awful.

and it uses two Move's? unless the pack comes with two that's expensive.



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Oyashiro
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:37:10 PM
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Tangible buttons FTW. But I still need to see more game support for me to even consider picking this up.

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Irievibes
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:37:37 PM
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okay picture this....

star wars force unleashed with ps3 graphics, the duels from the psp version made online, and you control it with this puppies....

i would buy TWO fo them just to lightsaber duel a friend like that...

that would be friggin awsome!!!

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FatherSun
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:39:25 PM
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Playstation MOVE. It will catch on. Marketing will be the key.

Looks sort of like a short-fused light-saber to me. Read a comment somewhere saying guys should prepare to hand over their PS3s to their girlfriends. Funny stuff.

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migabyte
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:47:48 PM

Just let her borrow it, no I'll play with her.

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:47:28 PM
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Alright so I'm really excited for this and have been since it's announcement. I want me some sword and shield action where I get to beat up on some people, how about some Demon's Souls 2?

Also move has best tracking technology out there and it will for a long time. They will probably release a gun attachment for shooters which will make those games more interesting to me.

I might actually buy and play a sports game, driving games could have a wheel attachment, no more need to spend $300 on an expensive 3rd party wheel.

Psn games that are out now will have firmware updates to allow use with this. I have the psn online bowling game and it is supposed to support psm. A pool table game could be awesome, invite you're friends over for the bowling alley experience without the need for the shoe rental and the nasty smells.

Play as the quarterback in the next madden, baseball pitching and hitting on the next big MLB game, hockey games, golf games.

The possibilities are endless, all the stuff they are coming up with is amazing. Has anyone seen eyepet? Totally for little kids but the tech is ridiculously cool.

Even if you're not a fan of motion gaming, can't you at least get behind the idea of sony stealing all of nintendo's customers. Why play golf with a bobble head character with graphics from 1980, when you can play tiger wooods.

I'm in full support of sony stealing customers from lesser machines. I look forward to it and any new tech they can provide, because it may bring things we can't even imagine yet.

Personally just want me some fantasy action rpg play with this, but in the end like it or don't Sony rules and it will only help them win the console war.

I think that's something we can all support.

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Oxvial
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:03:34 PM

Demons Souls 2 compatibility would be the only reason for me to buy this.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:03:35 PM
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Even if you needed two of these to play some multiplayer games, you wouldn't need to PSEyes. I'm sure they'll price the individual Moves at or under $50.

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:08:00 PM

Agreed, technically these should just be considered another controller. Surely you have more than 1 ps3 dualshock. Same thing here, and if you need 2 of the controllers for 1 game there's always the possibility that at launch said game would come with 2 of them.

Also the wii allows you to buy each piece separately, these will probably have the same option.

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inkme101
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:12:35 PM

yeah but if 2 people need 2 "moves" a piece... well do the math!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:25:00 PM

I have no dualshocks :(

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kraygen
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:41:30 AM

I'm just saying that if you need 2 for one game I'm sure sony will consider that when they handle pricing. If they claim that the playstation eye, the move, and the sub-controller, will cost less than $100, just think about it.

The eye retails for $40, so the move will probly sell with the sub controller for no more than $50. So packaged separately you could expect to pay no more than $30 msrp.

If that's msrp, you'll probly be able to get one on amazon for $20 in no time. I doubt they'd put all this support behind it, just to make it unaffordable and have it fail.

Plus even if $20-$30 seems too high, I personally find it hard to buy a dualshock, just do what I will, buy only what you need and get the others when a little extra money is available.

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Irievibes
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:15:07 AM

i doubt you will need 2 "sets" for two people, reason being is i cant even remember the last game with split screen, wich is the ONLY instance in wich you , yourself, would need to own 2 pairs of setups..

i believe mostly , it will be online multiplayer games, and even then, i think 2+ players games on the same console will be handled like the Wii, first one, then the second person uses the same set of controls, then back to person one, so on and so forth

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:07:02 PM
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BTW Ben, sorry I scooped you on this earlier today ;P

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inkme101
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:12:59 PM
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i scooped him too! lol

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Phoelix
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:19:09 PM
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I swear I just saw a Wii Remote painted black.

All it really seems that Sony has done is take Nintendo's creation and tweak it to be (hopefully) more sensitive. I don't see how Sony will unseat Nintendo at their own turf of "casual gamers" now. But they did pull off the PS3 as a whole, so who knows.

I think I like the buttons better on the Move, but we shall see.

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___________
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:33:28 AM

its unbelievable how companies get away with copyright these days.
i cant take a article off the web, tweak it to my liking and hand it into a assignment because thats plagiarism.
but sony can release a controller that is exactly the same as nintendos but looks different and has a different name?
WTF?
now thats BS!

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kraygen
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:47:19 AM

actually the technology is completely different. Look into the tech specs and you'll see the difference.

Look under wii remote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Move

Appearances can be deceiving. They look similar, but are different, just like they look similar to your tv remote, but are different.

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Phoelix
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:54:19 PM

I know that the guts of each are different. However, what the end user experiences looks to be like 95% the exact same thing.

I don't have a problem with this; without other companies expanding on each other's ideas, the only computer with a graphical user interface (mouse, etc.) would be a mac. Which would suck.

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___________
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 7:04:43 AM

lmao you dont have to have the same innards to get yourself into copyright issues.
if you blatantly sell a product which does exactly what your competitors product does and you use their research or anything they used for their product you could be in strife.

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Hezzron
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:19:15 PM
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I wonder if these new Move controllers would allow them to finally fix Lair properly. Probably not worth bothering with at this point.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:21:37 PM
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So how will it stack up against preNatal?

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:30:52 PM

Well that is the trick question World!... at the moment Moleneeeeeaaauuxxx is all talk about Natal... who knows, maybe Milo will show us all some day...

One thing we all know, is the World Will Not End with Natal ...only with You... :)

Q!

"speak to the droid"





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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:36:40 AM

Well if we think about, what can the Natal possibly do with the hardcore games like shooting, rpgs, or even racing. The move will at least have better ways of incorporating it to those games.

And no, I will never play a racing game while pretending I'm holding a wheel in mid-air.

Perhaps Natal is purely for the casual gamers. I keep hearing from the xbox people saying that it will support hard core gamers too. I'm really curious about that.



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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:37:05 AM

I loled @ world's joke and am confused by wtf you just said Q...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:42:09 AM

Moleneaux is all talk about everything, always. Seriously the guy is just talk.

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:34:15 PM
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They should make a game called "Quadrivium"... meaning "cross roads" in Latin...

The aim of the game is that you are a traffic cop directing traffic when traffic lights break down... and you need to survive as along as possible before without being run over - using your 2 move light build red and green controllers...

That would be compelling content now wouldn't it...

Or what about parking a commercial jetliner game called, "Stop! Damn it, Stop!"... if you get it right you can get trophies, upgrades to your customer and become top plane parker of the month :)

I hope these controllers do not signify the rise of PS3 PSN Shovel ware... shoveling bits not snow!

Q!

"speak to the droid"

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kraygen
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:51:43 AM

I think its amusing how people will praise Sony one minute for hiring and maintaining studios that make quality games, but the minute sony brings out tech that people are questionable of, they immediately start to question Sony's standards.

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Qubex
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:35:41 PM

kraygen, you do realise I was only kidding right? These things will evoke some humour... it does not mean these glow sticks are bad or anything, however there could very well be an increase in Shovelware...

Q!

"speak to the droid"

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kraygen
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 7:25:27 AM

I understand, but I wasn't only referring to your post, it was more of an in general thing. Lots of people have been making similar statements, but in a less joking fashion.

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:22:28 AM
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I already have the Wii. Don't need a Wii ripoff. I bought a PS3 because I needed some hardcore gaming. This will not work, in fact, it will end badly.

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___________
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:30:55 AM

well depends on what you mean end badly.
if you mean its going to flop, sell poorly and get allot of people pissed than i dont think that will happen.
on the other hand if you mean it could alienate the games focusing them on motion control instead of traditional buttons than i agree.

just wait and see, im on the fence with this because theres so many ways it could go.
when you think about it though there are certainly some areas where it would come in handy.
like in shooters when your aiming down your scope its hard to keep someone in your sight because the sticks are so twitchy.
using the motion controller would make that task so much easier.
lets wait till release before we pass judgment?

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 11:27:10 AM

__________, I couldn't imagine using this for a shooter. Using this product in the manner that you describe of aiming to shoot with your hands, that will get tiresome. It is insanity.

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___________
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 7:02:18 AM

hows it tiresome?
you just hold it like a normal controller and instead of using the nubs you just shift your arm to the left or right whatever required to make the shot.
watch the GDC trailer of socom 4, the guys sitting down relaxed using the controller to pick off enemies.

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___________
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:27:13 AM
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i dont like the sound of that dedicated.
i dont mind if games are compatible with the motion controller, but if im forced to use it than im not going to be happy.
if its cheap, and thats a massive if because sony peripherals, well there not exactly cheap i may get it.
the playstation eye for example set me back 80 bucks when i bought it when burnout paradise came out.
120-150 max and i may buy it if theres some games i want to use it for.
one thing i can see it really shining in is shooters when your using a sniper its really hard to keep a moving target in your scope because the sticks are way to twitchy.
thats why KZ2 used the sixaxis because its much more accurate and less twitchy, but using the wand all together would make it even easier.

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Kai200X
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:36:50 AM
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I watched the whole conference, and I really like the part for SOCOM 4, and I also like the fact you can just sit there playing the game without working up a sweat.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:39:21 AM
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On Different News Topic: Wow Kratos didn't last very long in that sex minigame ;)

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Kai200X
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:47:39 AM

People keep saying the same thing with GOW I & II

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herukuti
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:40:24 AM
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the controls didnt look as fluid when controlling the cursor on screen; i hope thats just a developer thing and is more fluid in the right hands(mine).

this is cool now the ps3 can have rts and mmorpgs.

and they need to work on driver support for pc/linux/mac.

im happy sony did right with this but i wonder if they should have put the controls in one design with the analog being on the sphere peripheral.

it looks hardcore enough.

i have a ps eye but i will have to get the two controllers because they dont look to be a package(the two controllers).

im guessing around the 80 to 100 dollar mark.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:43:19 AM
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Forget this thing, I want Norman Jayden's glasses from Heavy Rain!

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Jackyl
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:59:07 AM

This is what I've been saying ever since playing Heavy Rain. Also about the only style of serious "games" that I think this kind of controller is really applicable towards.

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:59:37 AM

those things are badass

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:03:49 AM
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On a slightly off-topic question, I wonder what Microsoft is thinking they are doing by releasing something Sony came up with and released 6 years ago on a last generation platform? (Natal = EyeToy (or PS Eye in 2007?) while Sony releases this.

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Jackyl
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:09:20 AM

Well you have to admit the technology behind Natal is (supposedly) far superior to the Eye Toy. It is like the EyeToy ver 10.0.

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:12:05 AM

True but there's the PS3's PS Eye which is the updated version and better EyeToy.

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Highlander
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:14:41 AM

No it's not more advanced, it's at most stereoscopic cameras with software on the 360 trying to do the 3D motion tracking, gesture interpretation, voice input, facial recognition as well as generating whatever on screen content you are supposed to be controlling. That's a whole hell of a lot of work for the CPU in the 360. That's a whole hell of a lot of work for any CPU. The thing that MS recently disclosed about Natal is that it relies entirely on the 360 for processing power, it has no processing power of it's own, so how much horsepower will be left for a game after the Natal software stack is loaded? Hell, how much memory will be left? And all to do what? There have been games on the PS2 and PS3 that use the PSEye/Eyetoy to interpret body movement and gestures by the user to move things on the screen, so how does Natal differ from that except for it's claims of 3D tracking?

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kraygen
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:56:47 AM

You guys should really check out eyepet, it's not out yet, but watch the video. Uses same kinda tech, and it's obviously for kids, but it makes natal look like something you'd get at the $1 store.

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Jackyl
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:08:26 AM

Watching the Natal tech demos, it obviously has capabilities that the PSEye/Toy simply lacks. It is simply more advanced. But will it live up to the hype?

As far as I'm concerned, all these motion controllers are just gimmicks to grab more of the casual gaming market share. Great for light, fun, casual games, but not for any serious game.

The exception, in my opinion, would be motion controllers for something like Heavy Rain... but then again that's more of an interactive drama than a game, so the rule still holds up.

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Orvisman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 9:37:52 AM

What Highlander wrote.

It is an erroneous, M$ft-fueled assumption that Natal is more advanced than the PSEye. The PSEye can do whatever Natal can do. Heck, it already does most of what Natal claims to do in current software:

EyePet
GT5 (head tracking)
The Eye of Judgment

PSN Games:

Aqua Vita/Aquatopia
Mesmerize
Operation Creature Feature
The Trials of Topoq
Tori-Emaki

The fact that people don't know this and erroneously think Ninty innovated anything with the Wii is due more to Sony's lack of support and marketing for the PS EyeToy and PSEye than anything else. The EyeToy did motion controls before the Wii. The only thing Ninty did was take the camera out of the picture and put it in you hand.

Ninty and M$ft fanboys are incorrectly accusing Sony for ripping off Ninty and M$ft as a me-too company and conveniently forget Sony experimented with the tech LAST gen.

What I want to know is why M$ft can't get Natal to work with its Vision camera? Or can it, but it is trying to bleed its customers dry by selling them another camera.

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Imagi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:55:33 PM

Yep, even the ball/block busting demo from E3 had been done on the PS2. Sony should sue!

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huh1678
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:17:26 AM
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Those things need 2 lightblubs on each end so i can play with a darth maul type lightsaber in a future star wars games!

/join the darkside

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kraygen
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:57:39 AM

thank you, another example I forgot to mention, think of how this could be used in a star wars game, not just the lightsaber, but also the force powers. mmmmm tasty.

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Jackyl
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:46:54 AM

Maybe there will be an attachment to connect the two controllers together.

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:01:34 AM

@ kraygen

Makes it exciting to think of what else they could use it for =). Would make so many things that much more exciting and fun to play with.

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kraygen
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:07:24 AM

@chedison

Heck yeah! Can't wait for these to be released!

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Irievibes
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:22:45 AM

i had already suggested this possibility earlier, id like the duels from the psp version of unleashed made online multiplayer with these puppies!! heck id buy mine, and one for a buddy if it meant we could duel online in real time with these!@ can you imagine! hell yes!@

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Bloodysilence19
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:36:01 AM
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from what ive been reading on other sites from people who tried it out said it has lag issues not big ones, but you notice them when playing like the gladiator game they showed off.

i was lil disappointed though Sony took the wiis nunchuck idea, but just made it wireless. they gotta though at e3 to make people want it more than wii is showed better game genres running it like fps or rpg just anything that doesn't look to much of casual game.

overall this could be a big thing for Sony due to they actually marketing it right by bundling it with a ps3 n eyetoy together. but before they start doing more with their motion controller, they better figure out how to keep thier inventory always stocked.

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Highlander
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:53:14 AM

I figure that there will be PS3 bundle with the PSEye, PSMove controller and a game all for $100 over the based model price.

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:00:22 AM

@ Highlander

Exactly. I watched the GDC Conference video (I believe its posted in the ps3 forum section) and one of the things they stated was that they would have a bundle with the PS3, PS Eye, and the Move. Didn't state a price though.

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Imagi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:12:27 AM
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I want to be a Barbarian: The Ultimate Warrior

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:13:10 AM
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I'm sorry but i did not like it on the Wii, just becuase it's now coming to the PS3 doesnt mean i am going to bow down to it.

Oh quick Q. - Is sixaxis not being programed into games anymore, i bought Uncharted 2 recently (Wish i got it sooner) and i noticed with Granades you can't use the sixaxis.

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WolfCrimson
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:16:21 AM

You can control grenades with sixaxis, you just need to enable it via the options menu.

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Imagi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:40:34 PM

Aye, WolfCrimson is right. Don't you look in the options or setup? it is the first thing I do before playing any game I buy, gotta make sure the game is all set to take full advantage of my setup.

Though it could be a habit from my PC days, when hours would be spent tweaking settings to get a good mix between GFX vs framerate, oh how I don't miss them days.

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Robochic
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:53:53 AM
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I like it, it's simple.... I already have the camera so now I just need this to add to my collection ;)

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spiderboi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 5:45:22 AM
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Does the tracking of the PS-Eye involve actual light? Would be better if they had an IR for the camera. Why? So we can play without worry on the luminosity of the room. (And I for one enjoy playing engaging games like Heavy Rain with the lights off).

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herukuti
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:55:20 AM

the ps eye has ir; it is one of the most used cameras for diy touchscreen cpus.

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kraygen
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:13:57 AM
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People you really need to go to playstation move's wikipedia page. It talks about all kinds of awesome, not to mention listing games coming out and games that will be updated to support controllers.

@carlo

It says that at release you'll only need 1 move, should be possible to use with sword/shield game, use the move for sword, and a sixaxis/dualshock for the shield.

I'm telling you Sony is awesome!

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 10:27:06 AM

lol thats would be so wierd holding a DS3 in just one hand using it like a shield hahaha

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Vitron
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:51:04 AM
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It sounds professional. Nyce

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dveisalive
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 7:46:44 AM
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You got a dildo and a Nunchuck How sweet Sony is XD. Did you see the Socom 4 Demo OMG I want I want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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chedison
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 10:27:57 AM

You really want that dildo dont ya....

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JackC8
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 7:51:02 AM
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I think they're going to have a very good system. Sounds like precision is their main goal, which is something I can't imagine the competitor's system having much of. I'm not too interested in standing in front of my TV for hours at a time, probably smacking my foot into the sharp edges of my coffee table, but I may have to buy this anyway. It's just so cool :) I'm actually starting to gain some confidence that there will be some good games released for it, and not just a bunch of casual junk - though I'm sure that will be the majority of what's available.

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kraygen
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 4:26:45 AM

Well if you watch people use them, it seems like it would be very easy to use even while sitting down, for most games anyway. Probably not bowling, but surely with shooters and the like.

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gumbi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:23:04 AM
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Hmm, my wife has taken a sudden interest in the PS3, finally. I find myself wondering why the sudden change of heart.

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Orvisman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 9:20:27 AM

I wonder... My wife will like the Move too.

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Roach721
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:44:21 PM

It vibrates so...

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airwedge1
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:25:39 AM
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This is the first time I have seen the "nunchuck" like 2nd device. In all the previous demos I have seen at e3, and what not it was only the wand. I think that all the people that are complaining you might have to buy two in order to play multiple games that hopefully the nunchuck also contains motion controls, so the demo's that you have seen that utilize two wands will actually end up using the wand and nunchuck. Can anyone confirm that?

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Cavan
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:26:56 AM
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if only they can now produce a decent cricket game, am looking to you EA! its the second most followed sport in the world, this could be brilliant for a cricket game, not the drivell ashes cricket that has been released on the wii, or the total utter trash that them shovel ware party games, like beach cricket have produced.

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gumbi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:33:54 AM
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wait... "while receiving physical feedback from rumble functionality"

you mean it vibrates too? oh dear...

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faraga
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:36:21 AM
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Will I be able to buy it without the eye? Since I already have one.

Also, it isn't exacly the same as the Wii controller. It isn't like they both have motion sensors and only the main one has a pointer and the secondary a thumbstick...

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kraygen
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 4:28:47 AM

you can get one without the camera, I'm sure sony realizes that lots of people already have the camera and there is no need at all for 2.

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tridon
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 9:55:20 AM
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Move is a cool name but I don't know... I'm a fan of traditional gaming more than gimmick gaming. If I wanted to jump around my room swinging my arms, I would've bought a Wii.

That being said, if EyePet finally comes out here in North America and you HAVE to use the Move to play it, I'll be disappointed. I'll also be importing my first title.

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Imagi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:48:12 PM

The Move has nothing to do with Eyepet. You need the PS-EYE camera but that is it. It has been on sale in the U.K for some time.

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Roach721
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:42:57 PM

Don't be so damn lazy.You sound like a fat boy too me.*Just a guess though.*

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Imagi
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 10:46:11 AM

The Move can be used with Eye-pet though. But it is not a requirement, otherwise it would be sold with the software.

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Andysw
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:00:10 PM
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Playstation move. Pretty cool, straigh forward name.

So whats natal? Xbox flow? Xbox fluid? Xbox spaz?

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Imagi
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:44:08 PM

Xbox spaz. People look like they are having some type of fit when playing it, then when the latency issues cause them to loose any lame game they were playing they will throw a wobbly!

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Andysw
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:44:11 PM

Jump in and spaz with xbox 360.

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totozero18
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 4:16:53 PM
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SOULCALIBUR WITH MOVE FTW!!!

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Highlander
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 12:02:07 AM

I like that idea a whole lot. Perhaps Namco can be persuaded...

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totozero18
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 7:44:07 AM

Auto reply, Dynasty Warriors with move!!!!

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FlyingKickPunch
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 5:59:18 PM
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the end begins?

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sha4dowknight05
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:33:11 PM
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UFC and Maybe even driving games could be cool?

But I would like to see a gun game where you can attach this to a gun mold like the WII marksman add-on and see how cool i'll be until then!!!

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totozero18
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 5:11:21 AM

Sixaxis is good enough for me when talking about driving games, I'm pretty sure my girl would improve a lot with sixaxis as she was always nodding and moving the joystick while playing Crash Team Racing on psx!

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inkme101
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 10:45:25 PM
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UFC would be the sh1t with motion!

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Robochic
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 3:42:35 AM
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@ doc Brown.. AWESOME Name and picture Gotta love back to the future..

UFC would be really cool.

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kraygen
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 4:31:08 AM
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white knight chronicles 2 with the move, I can't wait.

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Fane1024
Saturday, March 20, 2010 @ 5:26:37 PM
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Sub-controller = fail.

Each and every Move controller should have everything (globe, buttons, analog stick, etc.) that both these prototypes have, so that we only have to buy one new type of controller.

Don't follow Nintendo's lead on this, Sony. Wiimote + nunchuck + Wii Motion Plus (+ Classic controller) for each player = most of why I haven't bought a Wii.

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