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GDC 10: GT5 Will Release Before 2011

The saga of the Gran Turismo 5 release date continues, but at least Sony seems confident it will launch this year.

The first official date was March 2010 but as we all know, GT5 isn't scheduled to release this month. The new prediction has put the launch somewhere around the fall or early winter, but we've got a new update from Sony boss Peter Dille, who spoke during their GDC press conference about this subject. He said quite simply that GT5 will indeed be on store shelves before 2011; it's technically an "official announcement" even though it doesn't come with a specific day. Kazunori Yamauchi is one of the industry's most meticulous perfectionists and he won't accept anything less than a revolutionary driving simulator. Polyphony is also working to implement a few nifty new features, like 3D and GPS but really, the fans just want to see the final product arrive in stores. The good news is that Sony could definitely use a AAA PS3 exclusive for the holiday season; we got Heavy Rain and God of War III in the first quarter, but we definitely need another rush of exclusive goodness before the holidays hit. Wouldn't GT5 be a huge help...?  Talk about important sales.

Right now, perhaps it'd be safe to assume that the game will release in November. That's a fairly safe bet; it's a strategic time for launch and racing fans everywhere are already drooling.

Related Game(s): Gran Turismo 5

3/10/2010 9:25:58 PM John Shepard

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godsman
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:45:16 PM
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Errr... Doesnt Early winter start on December 22? I hope it won't release that late in the year.

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mike rlz
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:49:05 PM
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hallelujah holla back!

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SmokeyPSD
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:49:31 PM
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honestly, GT5 doesnt need to comform to a timetable of release, it just should be bloody released when it can, sony shouldnt muck around with timing it for christmas or whatever.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:01:36 PM

I have always believed PD should enforce a media blackout.

Let KY do his thing.

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animalmother
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 9:03:33 AM

Agreed. GT5P while just a taste is still one of the best racers ever made. Let Kazunori do his mastery.

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chedison
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:50:17 PM
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meh

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Highlander
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:50:56 PM
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Before 2011....Sigh.

That's just so very precise...I'm really tired of this now. I know people will argue with this, but come on, how much bloody longer can they drag this out for? It's stupid now. Set a damned date and stick to it, you can update the bloody game after it's release.

....grumble....grumble....grumble...

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:21:26 PM

Come come Highlander, you know if they released it now, before it was perfect, people would only complain that they released it too early and they shouldn't have released an unfinished game.

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:43:28 PM

Highlander, it will be worth the wait... let them do their "perfectionist" thingy majig... :)

Q!

"speak to the droid"

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:05:10 AM

Guys, I really think it's all about the marketing plan now. It doesn't look like there's much more to do or add anymore.

Besides there was a date already set for March in Japan. This has to mean that its nearing the end of its production (He also said 90% in January).

We also have to remember how sudden this delay was. AT CES, Kaz literally said it'll release in March for Japan, A DAY before the announcement of the delay. I don't know about you guys, but this tells me Kaz had no idea what was going on at the time. If it were really due to production reasons, Kaz wouldn't have said March, and then change his mind a day later.

What I'm really trying to say is that we have no idea what the real reason behind the delay is, so we can't be too sure of ourselves and should take everything as a grain of salt.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:58:24 PM
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What year is it? 2010? Duh! There should have been two GT games released by now.

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Highlander
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 9:59:35 PM

Um....there were.

GT HD via PSN (was free)

GT5 Prolog (was only $40)

That's two, I played them both. ;)


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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:26:35 PM

nobody told me there was a free Gran Turismo in HD on the PSN!

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Highlander
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:28:24 PM

It was removed when Prolog came along I think. It was more or less a demo which used the GT4 engine re-compiled for the PS3 and running in 1080p (IIRC - it's been a long time).

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:30:49 PM

Nice try. Demos don't count.

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Highlander
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:45:09 PM

Well, it was enough of a game for a decent fraction of PS3 owners to play it...and Prolog is/was a full game.

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:18:11 AM

It just shows how much they have been experimenting with this thing. They could have follwed Turn 10's footsteps if they wanted to, but they didn't.

First plan was to release GTHD with around 650 cars or so and have small transactions for the extra cars and tracks. I think this was meant to combat Forza 2.

Second, after the GTHD idea was scrapped (I guess they thought FM2 wasn't worth to compete with lol - *joke), came along GT5P. Obviously, things didn't work out and perhaps the bar was raised. To meet this "new" standard, Kaz knows that it'll take some time so they release a sample, yes a sample, of GT5 for the public to enjoy in the process.

Third, things changed once again, and GT5 doesn't seem to be anywhere near ready like they wanted to. GT5P was supposed to have a damage update with some more tracks and cars as well. My guess is that this was disturbed by Sony's big mouth telling them to produce GTPSP asap to help PSPGo sales early on. They also had some problems with manufactures and their agreements with damage, or so I heard.

Then, when's all said and done and nearing finish (Kaz said 90% in January), as well as the boxart being officially set and a March release window for Japan, it's suddenly and supposedly delayed "again." Why?.. we don't know for sure, but I bet anything Sony is a big part of it (erhm..*cough* 3-D *cough*).

GT5's development have been one of the biggest and most epic drama that I'd never have thought possible. It's just insane and driving some fans nuts.


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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:11:11 PM
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*wipes forehead* whew that's a relief </sarcasm> Are you effing serious!? They laughed off 2010 before!

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:14:23 PM
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Just hurry up and get here so you can blow Forza out of the water.

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migabyte
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:54:04 PM

Everyone has forgotten about Forza...should wait for the next one....just kidding.

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Gabriel013
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 1:17:45 AM

I'm sure I'll enjoy GT5 more, but I'm enjoying Forza 3 right now.

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inkme101
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:16:57 PM
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JUST RELEASE IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!

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yak4life85
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:21:28 PM

What he said! ^^^^^^

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:23:42 PM
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Be patient and receive perfection

or rush it and receive mediocrity.

Hasn't GT always been better than forza? Surely this one will make it look like trash, just wait, the anticipation will only make it that much more joyous when it is released.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:27:29 PM

It will be out just in to time compete with Forza 4.

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kraygen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:02:58 PM

well world with the way M$ handles their games I might believe it. But you know either way GT5 will still make M$ cry.

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NoSmokingBandit
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:27:44 PM
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I'd love it if they would stop with the extra crap like GPS and 3D that only about 13 people will use and give us the game already. Publish a GPS patch and a 3D patch on PSN for the small minority who wants it and stop delaying the game for the millions of other day 1 buyers who wont use those features.

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:01:01 PM

Well, I'm one of those "13" so I don't mind the wait.

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Alienange
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:31:16 PM
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GT5 will be SOOOO much better than Forza 4.

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Qubex
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:44:22 PM

That is what we all expect, but give them the time to do it... that is what I say... the longer we wait the better it will be... xBots will have no mouths then...

Q!

"speak to the droid"

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Hezzron
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 10:58:00 PM
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Well, here we go again. You'll have to excuse me if I'm not sitting on the edge of my seat over this. GT5 will sell well when it gets here......it's just the "getting here" part that is getting anticlimactic.

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:27:50 PM
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November seems likely. That way it'll gain some post-release hype and good word of mouth in time for the holidays.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:34:19 PM
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They also said it'd be released whenever they felt like. so why the hell do they feel like waiting so long?!

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:23:25 AM

That quote can be interpreted in so many different ways. With how things are now, I think they meant that the game would be good enough to release and compete with the current racing games that are out.

He even said in TGS, that the game is basically complete, but the "GT experience" is yet to be finished.

However, Kaz obviously thinks it's no where near the standard he wants it to be. He wants it to be the best possible obviously.

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:24:06 AM

*double post*

Sorry, I must've clicked it again when I thought it wasn't loading.

*embarrass*

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wakkaoaka
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:58:46 PM
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We all know what is going to be stuffed into millions of stockings overnight :)

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migabyte
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 @ 11:59:29 PM
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I hope they have another big gun for Christmas. I know GT sells really well, but I don't think driving simulators are system sellers these days. Truthfully looking at old GT sales in interpret the new one will be a mistake. I have probably bought 2 GT's in the past, but I won't be buying a new one. Infamous 2 and Twisted Metal please.

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:27:44 AM

Well first of all, I sure hope you're right because NO WAY do I want the game to release then.

As for sales, it will sell a lot. I've been following GT for a long time and it's big. It's so big that some are even willing to buy the game just because it looks gorgeous. Can you believe that?

So, not everyone who buys this game will be a driver. Some will probably just buy it for the experience. It really is breathtaking to be honest, to race in its HD glory with a steering wheel set. There is no other game that models the interiors as well as PD do.

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migabyte
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:51:44 AM

I'm not doubting the quality....just saying that genere is not as popular as it once was. Some times people get sick of things, like tomb raider. Not saying it's gonna bomb, in fact it might end up selling a ton, maybe more than any other PS3 game, but not as many as previous GT games. Also I believe most people who are interested already have a PS3.

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___________
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:42:04 AM
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so one year late of the competition?
ill believe it when i see it!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:15:47 AM
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No matter how awesome it is, could it really live up to this kind of wait?

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:40:11 AM

That's a really good question. I'm a big fan myself and I even have some bit of doubt about that.

All I can say now is that it's possible. If anyone, it'd be PD.

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Deleted User
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:39:09 AM
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Ummm, just so you guys know and realize, there is NO such thing as perfection. No matter how hard Polyphony Digital tries, they will never achieve perfection. There is ALWAYS something that could be improved upon/tweaked with during development in order to make the game a little bit better. They are just saying they want to achieve perfection just so they have some sort of excuse to justify this looong development time. At this rate, when they do release GT5, everyone will be so overhyped and everyone will be so full of anticipation that it will be impossible to live up to expectations.

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daus26
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 1:48:31 AM

Well I think even Kaz knows that. No one should ever take the word "perfection" literally. It's just a term that's used for headmen of developers like Kaz and Kojima having really tough satisfying needs. If they're not satisfied, they don't want to release it. That's all what the term perfection means when we use it to describe such persons.

But I'm sure you know that. I'm sure you know that we all know "perfection" doesn't exist.

Also, you can't really be sure of yourself unless you really know what's going on. For all we know, what they're doing would probably take other developers at least just as long. And you really got factor in Sony on this. When the game is release is up to them anyway.

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Machony
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 2:18:18 AM
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GT has always been Playstation's best selling exclusive, give them the time they need to make it perfect. With all the latest updates i've seen lately, the graphics are getting better, sound more realistic, and not to mention how insane it will be to have almost 1,000 cars available to drive!.

Get yourself a G25 and get ready for bliss!

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ChronowerX_GT
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 5:14:24 AM
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I wonder if Forza 3 hadn't been released, would GT5 be on store shelves now?

You know x-box fan boys (not trying to stir up any trouble guys) will pull GT5 apart for any slight flaw. I don't blame Polyphony or Sony for wanting to make it perfect (from a business sense) but if they're waiting to release it just to get more sales then I really don't like it.

I think we (current PS3 owners and GT fans) should get priority. Not some 'might be' customers. In fact I bought my PS3 just for GT5 (although I've been tempted to get a few more games hehe), a couple of years back when prologue was realeased. I figured that GT5 would be along in 6 months or so. I also know someone who won't get a PS3 until GT5 is released. I'm sure there are other people like me and my friend. Personally I think it won't hurt Sony if they released it as soon as it's ready. The game's that big that I doubt the time of the year will make an impact. People will buy it regardless of when it's released. Just like GTA.

Anyway that's my 2 cents. Sorry for going on.

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RadioHeader
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 5:33:25 AM
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If I don't have it by the end of September I'm getting Forza 7, and I'm gonna play it on my phone's xbox360 emulator app.

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tanner1
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 6:39:23 AM
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Put it this way, i wont hold my breath for a 2010 release.

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JackC8
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 7:27:59 AM
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I was a big fan of GT5 Prologue, but after spending a lot of time playing a couple of other current-gen racing games and then going back to GT5P, I have to say, they've got a loooooong ways to go if they want to create a "revolutionary driving simulator". For one thing, all the tracks are as smooth as glass. It feels as if you're driving a computer program instead of a car on a track. And then there's the whole thing with collisions - bump another car and it floats away like a helium balloon. Hit a wall at less than 50 mph and there's no force feedback through the wheel. And the physics of the collisions, well...there are no physics. This stuff just isn't acceptable in this day and age.

Hope they get that stuff all fixed and I truly hope we get a revolutionary driving simulator. I'm a huge fan of racing games and I would dearly love something I could sink my teeth into for several months. We've sure as hell been waiting long enough for it.

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Natalisrubbish
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 10:24:09 AM

I'm sorry, you do realize prologue came out in 2008 right, and was in no way intended to represent the full product GT5 release?

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RadioHeader
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 11:08:53 AM

I agree with Natalisrubbish.

GT5 will be better than GT5P, and Natal is rubbish :)

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JackC8
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 12:01:17 PM

I hardly think they'd call it GT5 Prologue if it was "in no way intended to represent the full product GT5 release".

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:07:22 PM

JackC8, you better do some research on PD and the Prologues.

Seriously.

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JackC8
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 10:28:49 PM

What is that even supposed to mean? We've seen plenty of videos of GT5, in it's "90% finished" form or whatever percentage it's up to today. We've also had the opportunity to play the Time Trial demo, which came out just a couple of months ago. They are both extraordinarily similar to GT5 Prologue.

I'm quite happy to express my optimism that the finished product will be a quantum leap beyond anything we've played before - that it will contain a whole lot of things that we didn't see in the videos or experience in the Time Trial. I love racing games and I'd be a fool not to sincerely hope that GT5 will be the best thing I've ever played in my life.

But unlike other people, I'm actually waiting for the game to be released before I declare it a 10/10.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:21:54 PM
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After spending some time Forza 3 (about 6 hours roughly), I have come to a conclusion.

PD and KY can take their time.

Not because Forza 3 is so great, but because Forza 3 is lacking that KY perfection I have come to expect with my racing titles.

F3 sure has some strong points, but I would rather be playing GT5P if I hadn't spent so much time in it the first place.

I drive with assists off (all of them) in Forza 3, and things do not feel right when comparing them to the GT TT demo, and still is lacking the connection Prologue has..

Plus, there is to much emphasis placed on weight in that game. Sure, it's important, but there are plenty of ways around the weight issue, especially when it comes to high speed tracks. The tuning itself is GT4 with a few body kits for certain cars.

Additionaly, the non-realistic tracks are lacking the charm that the GT tracks possess. It makes some of the racing boring.

400 cars may seem like a big number, but when you see some of the cars they have for MS points, I feel ripped off. The Nissan GTR is for sale. That car should have been included, bottom line. I enjoy collecting the cars, regardless of how many are off-shoots of certain types. This game is missing half of what I expect.

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Deleted User
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:48:27 PM
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In all honesty, GT5 Prologue was not all that impressive at all. I would hope Polyphony Digital will improve on GT5 Proglogue ten-fold. The graphics in GT5 Prologue was cartoonish. The grass had no textures or detail. Just plain flat green. The gameplay wasn't all that great. Did not feel like a driving simulator at all. Im beginning to doubt GT5 and Polyphony Digital. Just like FF 13 and Squre Enix have deviated from the franchise, I think GT5 and Polyphony Digital might be doing the same. GT5 won't have a chance at being as good as the original.

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animalmother
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 9:10:21 AM

GT5P graphics were cartoonish? What are you smoking? Because mine clearly isn't as good. GT5P still has the best graphics of any racer.
Sure the blades of grass are a bit off and things like that but from the very launch of GT5P, Kaz has said that he is, was and still will be improving on the graphics even though they clearly are the best.

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Deleted User
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 3:53:11 PM
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LOL the GT TT demo was a joke as well. The gameplay, graphics, and overall feel of the game just screamed last-gen. This is for sure, GT5 and Polyphony Digital better step their game up and quit being so lazy. In the time it has taken PD to make GT5, Turn-10 has already come out with two AAA racers and working on their third. And if you think about it, every single GT has declined and GT4 was not even considered to be AAA according to Metacritic. We should all have our doubts about GT5 and Polyphony Digital at this point.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 4:30:02 PM

A joke by what standard? Comparing to what, a full game? Your entire "last gen" comment makes your entire post seem nothing more then flamebait, or perhaps you need education on the subject..

The TT was a small 200 mb demo that was used to showcase the physics engine. It was a test device for any virtual racer wanting to make the transition to real world auto racing.

It has been reported that Kaz has driven all 1000 cars that are to be included in the final release of GT5. He also has professional racing experience, and has been very successful. Please, by all means, show me ANYONE from Turn 10 doing the same. Good luck on that quest.

You cannot have expected anything more then that, and if you did, that's your fault for not understanding what was to be delivered. Which brings me to my next point...

Before you posted this, you could have done some research on the matter, and seen the amount of work being put into each 500,000 polygon vehicle. You might have also discovered the painstaking photo shoots involving the tracks and vehicles themselves. Of course, you would have also discovered some footage on the track improvements that has been shown from the 2010 GT Academy.

There is a reason each full release of Gran Turismo sells around 10 million copies worldwide.



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ChronowerX_GT
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 4:52:54 PM

Hey Maxpontiac, when did the polycount go up to 500,000? Last I heard it was 400k. The detail in the models in prologue was seriously impressive (wern't they 200k?).

Have you got a link to the photo shoots for the tracks and cars?

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 5:10:58 PM

CronowerX_GT --

Go to GTPlanet. It has nearly everything related GT5 you can find.

The 500K polygon count was taken from the CES 2010 show. KY stated it in one of his interviews.



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animalmother
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 9:11:48 AM

Sorry Educasion, i mean no disrespect but clearly you're an Microsoft fanboy. Your comments are absurd and ignorant of the facts.

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Machony
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 4:55:10 PM
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Don't feed the troll Pontiac

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 5:12:46 PM

I know man.

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Deleted User
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 8:11:33 PM
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pontiac,

If you are seriously comparing GT 5 Prologue and the GT TT demo to Forza 3, a FULL game, then you are either a major fanboy or a troll. Which one? Take your pick. GT 5 Prologue is basically a last gen product, along with the TT demo. The TT demo was supposed to showcase the physics engine? What physics engine? I'm telling you right now, GT 5 and PD better improve upon those two last gen products TEN-FOLD or else GT 5 will be a flop. Especially since each full release of Gran Turismo has declined and has received lower critical reception since the original Gran Turismo. And just FYI, part of the reason why PD still hasn't come out with GT 5 is because they had a good portion of the team developing GT PSP, which flopped. There should be no more excuses when it comes to GT 5, and if it flops, you know why.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 11, 2010 @ 11:52:18 PM

You continue with your flaimbait type of posts, all the while avoiding the facts that I provided. It's obvious what you are doing. Why is that certain people such as yourself feel the need to resort to throwing out the fanboy insult? It serves no purpose in a discussion. Leave the grade school name calling out of this thread.

As I stated prior, Prologue was game that offered a taste of what's to come. This has always been PD's mode of operation. As has been the case in previous editions and when the final game arrives, things have drastically changed. It gave the fans of Gran Turismo something to play NOW, and to look to the future.

Yes, the TT demo was a showcase for real-word physics. Hence the "driver" who produced the top lap times ended up in a real world racing academy. It's not that hard to understand really. I provided plenty of information in my previous post, it's obvious that you didn't even bother to read, or better yet, do some research on the matter. You might be surprised on just how good the previous winner of GT Academy 2009 is. That's impossible with GT's crappy physics engine, right?

I am not a proffesional race car driver, and I doubt you, or anyone on this site is. However, when a man who has proved it on the virtual and real world track, he has my respect, and my trust in providing the best simulator on a console. When Turn 10 does this, perhaps their game will improve, and their sales will reach the level of Gran Turismo.

Flops? GT PSP has sold 1.8 million copies worldwide, and GT5P has sold 4.65 million copies worldwide. Hardly "flops" as you so eloquently put it.

Clinging to review scores? Interesting that you do this. Yes, I am aware that GT4 was recieving lower scores then any of the previous 3 versions. Most if not all reviews faulted the game for not offering online and damage. This has been addressed in GT5. You really don't educate yourself prior to posting, do you?

When GT5 arrives, not only do I expect the Meta scores to be 95 and/or above, I honestly see the sales of GT5 in one month surpassing Forza 3's lifetime sales.

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kraygen
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 4:20:19 AM

@EducAsian

Perhaps you should take a look at what last gen racers were like. Go play GT4, no where near the quality of the GT5 demo. And polyphony even claimed the demo was nothing compared to what the full game would have.

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Mornelithe
Friday, March 12, 2010 @ 4:45:24 AM
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Well, as a fan, I prefer to have the game launch when PD and Kaz say it's ready. I will absolutely play it, and I will most certainly forgo sleep, food, and outside stimuli in order to play vast quantities of it. But, I would not want to be applying pressure on the creators, simply to get a rushed product.

As was stated, Kaz is fiendishly meticulous. But, I think, more importantly is that he's never given us a hunk of shit. Sure, some GT games have sold a few million units less than others, but they're all still 9+ million each. And top quality to boot. So, I know they're not dicking around, and I know they're not postponing inevitably.

I just hope that games aren't being pushed back, solely as marketing strategy. You know, strategically place this IP here in this month, and push this one back to that month etc...

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