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Square-Enix Will Consider A Final Fantasy VII Remake

It's too early to be an April Fool's joke and I wouldn't torture the loyal FF fans with a headline like this if it weren't true.

Remember when Square-Enix sort of vaguely mentioned the idea of a Final Fantasy VII remake on their blog and the place freakin' exploded? Well, maybe that caused them to take a second look at the situation; in the past, they've been saying they simply don't have the resources for such a project. However, according to Siliconera, Square-Enix president and CEO Yoichi Wada responded directly to a query concerning the company's future plans and perhaps for the first time ever, he said they would consider a FFVII remake. Said Wada at the launch party for Final Fantasy XIII:

"Right now we don’t have a clear direction, but many fans have requested we remake Final Fantasy VII. We’re going to explore the possibility – whether or not we’re going to do it, if we’re going to do it, and the platform."

Okay, two things before everyone goes loopy: 1. this cannot be made for the PSP. It must be a high-definition remake for consoles (and the PC, considering FFVII was available on the PC). 2. if they change anything besides the graphics, I'm not sure what I'll do...I can't be held responsible for my actions. If they wreck the entire gameplay mechanic and rip out the turn-based battle, I won't touch it with a ten-foot cattle prod. This is a remake so don't go messing with it! A few extra scenes for story or a new town or something might be all right, but don't go crazy. Please.

3/22/2010 9:20:19 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (140 posts)

Scarecrow
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:42:09 PM
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FFVII is fine as it is...
Well, guess FFXV releases in 2020 then

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:46:42 PM

A remake doesn't say otherwise.

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shadowpal2
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:16:16 PM

Guys I just realized that Wada kun I mean...Wada sama has to be the biggest genius in our lifetime.

I mean hell it was second nature for him to bring FFXIII and FFXIV to the Xbox 360 because it meant big business.

But with a game like FFVII...OOOOHHHH HO HO HO!!!! You gotta be careful with that shit - it definitely will not mean big business at all. Good thinking Wada sama. You're such a genius that you can be a philosopher when you grow up.















moron.

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Orvisman
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 9:01:39 AM

FF XIV hasn't been announced for the 360. The last I heard it was only on the PS3 and PC... for now.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 11:09:40 AM

@Orvisman,

Timed "ps3 exclusive"

Keyword: timed

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Nynja
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 5:57:16 PM

@Scarecrow;

FFXIV was not even announced as a "timed" exclusive. At the moment, Microsoft's Xbox Live and HDD requirement policies are keeping them from getting their own copy on 360. SE clearly stated they are trying to work that out with MS.

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Qwarktast1c
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:42:47 PM
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i think it should be PS3 exclusive so they could maximize the quality

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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:14:35 PM

The quality of the original FF7 was pretty great and it was on PC and PSX.

As long as PS3 users get uncompressed media like we should then i'm happy. FF13 looks completely different on the 360 compared to the ps3.

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Highlander
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:44:12 AM

I have two things to say. First of all, this is the final confirmation that Square Enix haven't the slightest clue what the hell they are doing. First they won't then they can't - ever, then it'd take 14 years, they they ask if they should, and now they say they might? HA. Not a bloody clue, they're just letting the wind blow them to and fro. Never mind that fact that since it hit PSN FFVII has been consistently one of the most popular downloadable titles, and since it arrived FFVIII has joined it. That doesn't mean anything, it's no indicator at all that an FFVII remake might be welcome. Missing the clues as they are handed to you on a silver platter qualifies you for the label incompetence in most places.

Secondly. If Square Enix *does* decide to do a FFVII remake, then IMHO Sony *has* to step up with some cross marketing dollars, under the guise of a technical alliance to help SE with the technical aspects of the PS3 or some such to absolutely guarantee that a remade FFVII not only recaptures the mode of the original, but does it exclusively on the PlayStation platform. Make no mistake, FFVII is, was and always will be synonymous with PlayStation, and there is no way in hell that a remake needs to appear on the technological abomination known as the Xbox 360.

Turn based battles - hell yes, anything else kills the mood of the game. Don't screw with the story? Hell yes, you'd kill the game. Make Tifa sweetly sexy and Aeris ethereally pretty? Hell yes, pay a talented artists good money to design and illustrate two of the most beloved RPG characters there have been, and make them exquisite.

I'll stop now. I'm ranting randomly now. All that remains to say is that this will be an insanely popular game if it's done, and done right. Sony has an opportunity to get in early and lock this game up, and they should. Even if Sony doesn't, I personally think SE should make it a PS3 exclusive anyway since SE made so many of their millions on the PS brand anyway, but who ever heard of loyalty these days?


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JackC8
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:02:38 AM

Good rant Highlander! I agree that Sony should pay whatever it takes to make this a PS3 exclusive. The popularity of this game mean the profits are absolutely guaranteed.

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:40:02 AM

Sony shouln't have to pay anything, they should just keep it exclusive because they owe it to Sony.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 11:12:46 AM

Sony doesn't need to pay anything

Sony should pay their 1st and 2nd party devs AS MANY GREAT EXCLUSIVES as they can

Hell, they can bring back their great rpgs again: Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, etc.

THAT'D be a better investment*

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totozero18
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 3:30:06 PM

CAN I GET AN ALELUYA BROTHERS AND SISTERS???!!!


P.D.:Modeoheim should be included even as ruins (I always wondered where was it located)
P.D.2:complete te story (Weiss+Genesis thing)

Edit: If they take away turn-based combat.....I'll bring the torch...

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Irievibes
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:35:16 PM

highlander i know we have had our differences, but ....

YOU SHOULD RANT MORE OFTEN !! jajaja j/k good read! ;)

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Draguss
Friday, March 26, 2010 @ 8:29:17 PM

And I'll bring the pitchfork

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:46:11 PM
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1. HD Graphics (PS3/PC)
2. Materia System
3. Turn Baded gameplay


If any of those are not included they can FU$K OFF

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SnipeySnake
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:51:57 PM

Towns?

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:22:12 PM

Limited? Where you been? Thought you gave up on PSXextreme.

I friended you, but much like my sexual advances to my wife, it went unnoticed.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:36:17 PM

HAHA, sorry I went on a road trip with several friends for several days. I haven't been near my PS3 or PSXE for a week (ya I know, I suck). I added you on PSN the minute I signed in earlier today.


Me give up PSXE? You're crazy!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 1:04:47 AM

Truth.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 1:35:42 AM

i would hope the ATB would be similar to FFX-2, meaning when it fills up and you attack, more than one person can attack at the same time if you input their command to attack fast ennough

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SnipeySnake
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:52:55 PM

How do you get it? I really didn't get the instructions in the other article...I got a code from FFXIII if thats needed...

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Zemus101
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:56:29 PM

Wow congratz dude, I would die if I got one. It's just PC only right? I signed up for the beta a couple months back when it was first available to do so, and then a couple weeks ago when FFXIII released I signed up again using the code (before even playing XIII actually) XIII is great, but XIV is what I've really been looking forward to. Congratz again!

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ryandon69
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:51:00 PM
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if square decides to do this i would be massive, they just need to amp up the graphics and leave it at that, FFVII is a masterpiece in its own right. i would love to see it on my PS3.

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AntDC
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:51:02 PM
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Final Fantasy VII: DS Edition

Now with new and improved paradigm battle system!

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Zemus101
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:58:01 PM

I know that's supposed to be a joke, but I could see that happening and of course SE would make lots of money. Probably quite a bit more than if it was brought out for ps3 only, with hd graphics etc.

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:47:23 PM

sometimes i think people post to be funny and see how many thumbs down they can get. ;)

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:49:17 PM

You made me chuckle, that deserves a thumbs up.

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SnipeySnake
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 9:55:24 PM
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So im just curious at how other people may look at FFVII in hd graphics. In my view there still mini versions in towns and thw world map and full character sized during battles and CG cutscenes.

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Scarecrow
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:02:04 PM

That's not a remake, that's a remix

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SnipeySnake
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:29:47 PM

So what? You expect everyone to be normal sized during the entire game?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:43:32 PM

I certainly do, this is 2010+ not the mid 90s. Ingame graphics are beyond CGI from back then.

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:30:01 AM

There were some CG scenes where the characters were full sized actually.

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piratedrunk
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 1:26:12 PM

They should only be little on the world map, and even then with a proportional body. Everything else they should be normal size.

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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 5:33:13 PM

@shadowscorpio
I know, thats why i mentioned that.

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FxTales
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:00:53 PM
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Omg just do it already, your sitting on a goldmine with this one guys, it'll only benefit like everyone!

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:41:40 PM

as long as it does not benifit microsoft. i dont want them to benifit in any way from the legend that is ffVII.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:06:39 PM
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I disagree. I think they could just redo all the graphics and release for PSP. It would be a hell of a system seller, and they can stick to the over the head camera set-up. I'd buy it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:14:01 PM
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Why do they need to consider the platform? There can be only one platform for it and that's PS3. Dammit.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:37:49 PM

In another life we had the same conversation regarding FFXIII.

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Qwarktast1c
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:44:07 PM

in another life? sh*t that was just over a year and a half ago!

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cLoudou
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:22:16 PM

I notice there isn't an "s" on "platform".

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Douchebaguette
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:51:12 AM

I think they mean plaform[s] for this generation or the next, as Kitase revealed the Crystal Tools engine was a mistake.

But it may be because they probably know Microsoft & the 360 had a negative effect on Final Fantasy. In certain ways.

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coverton341
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:26:00 PM
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I'm just going to come in here real quick and make a prediction.

This thread will see over 100 comments. Just saying.

Ok so on topic then. I have to agree with not effing with the gameplay mechanics or adding all kinds of weird stuff. What concerns me is the "what platform" part of his comment. I can only imagine what the little squirrel juggling knives he calls a brain is conjuring right now, "maybe if we make it a 360 exclusive we will finally capture the elusive beast known as the western market." That would probably instigate an angry mob to burn down the Square-Enix HQ with torches and then hang his body on a lamp post.

Sorry, it's getting late.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:28:24 PM

Nah. I think they'll fool everyone and release it for Gamecube.

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SnipeySnake
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:32:15 PM

A FFVII NES remake.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:39:08 PM

I'm back, of course it will have over 100 comments :)

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:44:56 PM

i say it will hit just over 300 comments. being monday night tuesday morning everyone will be lookin for some news after a boring weekend.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:47:23 PM

It sure was a boring weekend, we had freezing rain Friday-Saturday here.

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coverton341
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:47:26 PM

That's why I love ya LV.

Good point Fry. I didn't even think about that. Can I borrow your crystal and laser shooting contacts?

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:00:43 PM

Limited we are not to far from each other i had weather like that all weekend. i didnt leave the house. i played LBP with my kid then beat bioshock 2.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:06:10 PM

How is BS2? I picked it up on Steam (eat it Alienange) but haven't put much time into it.

I live in the western part of IL currently. Had great weather during my trip only to come back to winter for the weekend, bla.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:06:11 PM

How is BS2? I picked it up on Steam (eat it Alienange) but haven't put much time into it.

I live in the western part of IL currently. Had great weather during my trip only to come back to winter for the weekend, bla.

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:19:37 PM

bioshock 2 is AMAZING. i loved it. i will not spoil anything for you and i recommend you go in knowing nothing about what will happen. i did that for both games and was blown away. i never expected anything that was gonna happen along the way. i totally recommend this game to everyone. screw it being multiplat. this game is amazing.

yeah it was lame to wake up to all that snow the other morning after it being in the 60s for a week.

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:34:35 AM

If Sony has any type of wisdom in the business of the gaming industry, there is NO WAY in hell they're not going to flex there rights regarding partial ownership of FF 7...

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kraygen
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:28:39 AM

@ LV

We had over 8 inches of snow saturday and today's high is supposed to be 70.

SW Missouri is uber odd.

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ryu
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:31:20 PM
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might as well go 3D while you'r at it. PS3 exclusive please

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:34:25 PM
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i really really really really really really really want to play this. i agree, do not change anything. adding something might be ok but nothing that exists can be changed. if it is not turn based i agree that i will not play it. NO CHANGES TO STORY, LAYOUT, GAMEPLAY OR ACTION. i still have my original copy of 7. i should be able to put both in 2 systems side by side on 2 tvs and play them exactly the same. WITH NO DIFFERANCE OTHER THAN GRAPHICS.

then i will be happy. oh so happy.

at this point what would it be like a 20th aniversary by the time it came out, with development and all.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:46:27 PM

This is where we sorta disagree. I feel with new technology and having refined their storytelling skills SE could really fine tune the story told in 7.

As I play through XIII I continue to wonder how amazing VII's story would be given the same technology and production budget.

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:54:59 PM

while i can see what your are saying, i dont want a drastic change. i can see bringing it to a closer translation or maybe trying to refine the story.

i think the most important parts are the gameplay. i just dont want to see this ruined.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:00:33 PM

Materia is my favorite magic system in any RPG EVER. It sucks knowing thus far my RPG gaming (in terms of magic/accessories) reached its peak well over a decade ago.

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:09:21 PM

oh hell yea i love materia. so simple, so effective. easy to use. easy to understand. crisis core was just not what it should have been. the materia was there but.... ugh. still fun.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:20:41 PM

Agreed on Crisis Core. It was a fun PSP game but overall I found it to be pretty generic.

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Highlander
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:46:11 AM

LV, you said it all when you said "Materia is my favorite magic system in any RPG EVER. It sucks knowing thus far my RPG gaming (in terms of magic/accessories) reached its peak well over a decade ago. "

I suspect a lot of folks will say they couldn't agree more. Personally, Xenosaga was my favorite even over FFVII (& FFVIII), but it's a close run thing. The materia system is an awesome way of applying bonuses and extra effects in the combat system.

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kraygen
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:30:48 AM

Materia Rules, no substitutions, exchanges, or refunds.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:44:14 PM
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Remember when the internet and FF fans nearly exploded with delight at the FF VII Tech Demo for the PS3?

Multiply that by 100 and that's the reaction they'll see from the same places in regards to a full-blown FF VII remake for PS3.

And the way PS3 sales are going now, I doubt a PC multiplat is necessary for this remake. I don't even care if it's only 720p and not 1080p, or 60 frames/sec or not. I just wanna see a playable Advent Children graphics style FF VII, with the Materia and Magic system untouched, a return to turn-based battle glory days and the full cinematic of Aeris' death.

Oh Aeris... the PS3 remake may well make me cry again. Most powerful video game scene ever. No video game in the 90's had ever made a player cry before. I guess that's why FF VII was so ground-breakingly popular.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:48:18 PM

Toss in some nudity and I'm sold.

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coverton341
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:51:24 PM

The most beautifully sad moment in gaming history for sure. Having it fully realised in HD would definitely pulled some tears out of people again I suspect.

EDIT: How about a wet t-shirt contest between Tifa and Yuffie LV?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:01:27 PM

Oh...ya...girl nudity...ya...that....

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coverton341
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:12:37 PM

Lol. Yeah figured as much. Let's see Barret and Vincent all greased up after saving the world eh?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:21:03 PM

Oh Dawgy!

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Jawknee
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:53:19 PM

That tech demo was a dirty tease.

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Bromus398
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 1:33:51 AM

I love the idea, but i think they'd also have to drop the voice acting too. i still haven't seen a good translational reason for voice-acting. You can create a better script without it

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kraygen
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:33:38 AM

@ Bromus

I have to agree, another problem with voice acting for this game would be that if the voices weren't perfect SE would get some nasty remarks.

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Milonakis
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:49:38 PM
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I don't wanna see barrett replaced with marcus fenix in an xbox port.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 8:12:13 AM

You might be thinking of the Cole Train!!!!!

He does have a striking resemblence to Barret, but still, I'd rather go with Barret anyday.

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Irievibes
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:22:49 PM

id give barret one of those "HUUULK SMAAASH" voices...

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Alienange
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 10:50:47 PM
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Nice of you to throw in the PC crowd as if they mean anything. Just give them a new triangle box, they'll be happy with that.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:01:02 PM

You're mean...

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Alienange
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:32:36 PM

And you talk too much. You don't see me complaining about it.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:37:49 PM

You just did...and how do I talk too much? I'd love for you to skim through the articles for the past week and give some form of evidence suggesting I "talk" too much.

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Jawknee
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:54:40 PM

Funny you say that since he hasn't been around in over a week.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 1:22:08 AM

Now, now boys.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 8:13:59 AM

LOL at World...

You're like the teacher in a classroom full of arguing nerdy teenagers. That's what came to mind. Keep it cool guys.

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wakkaoaka
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:28:15 PM
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I hope they turn FFVII into a first person action game with guns and no swords. Oh and I hope they make it so linear that it's 100% corridors >=D

Looking forward to all the down votes :)

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:29:48 PM

You've been up voted.

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frylock25
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:38:30 PM

haha just to spite your comment everyone will thumb you up.

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DeathOfChaos
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:21:38 AM

Lol

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totozero18
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:14:03 PM

You failed on the down votes, but the up votes are win..... 74.74.74.74.74. *explodes*

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wakkaoaka
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 9:29:08 PM

haha awesome i got 15 up votes. reverse psychology works! (and now that i said that people will thumb me down to spite me). Or is this just another ploy to get more up votes? Who knows! Isn't human behavior fun.

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DeathOfChaos
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:35:08 PM
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This would be an awesome thing to finally happen. I love hearing about this, because every time I do, it seems it gets closer to a reality. Like everyone is saying, nothing should change besides the graphics upped. If anything is different, maybe add a few new items or weapons or something, that would just kind of be like a plus, but not a big deal if they didn't add it. I think one of the coolest things that they could do is if you do something special in the game, like kill all the Weapons, you get some type of special movie scene showing a little more clarity on how the hell Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo came into existence. Not even anything concrete, just something that makes you wonder; 'Is that...?'

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Jawknee
Monday, March 22, 2010 @ 11:55:20 PM
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Only if you make it for PS3 Squeenix.

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Siege
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:06:05 AM
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I can't help but get excited upon reading this, Ben. I know that I shouldn't, I know that I am *probably* setting myself up for another disappointment. But...I just can't help it. I tell myself, "It will be different this time."

Alas, Ben, if we don't see an FFVII remake this or next generation, I fear the mental strain will be too much for us classic JRPGers. And you will have a lot of grief counseling on your hands =P

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 1:05:15 AM

'tis true, unfortunately. :(

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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:12:57 AM
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Excellent news, I never really got into the world of FF, but hey it is a classic right? I did however pick this one up a while back for the ol' PSP and got pretty close to beating it, but then some other PS3 games got in the way of my progress haha, I think I'll get back to it right now!

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JMO_INDY
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:21:11 AM

Update: I beat it =] Another 4 hours or so was enough for the beat line to the finish. I was closer to being done than I had originally thought. Fantastic game, still IDK if FF is my "thing". Im still into the Action/Adventure stuff, (UC2 & Heavy Rain? and uhhh IDK haha). But I also love my FPSs (quality ones) Kilzone2 and Resistance 2 top that, COD: MW2.....just no. None-the-less I respect Final Fantasy and it's position in the gaming world, it most certainly has a lure to it. I understand why you guys are so passionate about it. =]

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Hezzron
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:13:33 AM
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Here we go again. Talk about beating a dead horse. You know all you JRPGites are going to grumble about the final product if it ever gets made. "It's just not the same" you'll whine. Take a cue from the movies....no remake is ever really any good.

Of course you'd all buy it, making it a sales success, opening the door for other devs to make these "appealing" remakes of older games because they would cost less due to the subject matter being all planed out already.

Talk about killing originality in a form of entertainment. The more I think about it, a remake isn't necessarily a good idea.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:29:16 AM

The Thing, The Departed, The Fugitive, and Scarface are a few remakes I feel are just as good if not better than the original.


FF is my favorite series and I've grown extremely tired of SE's continued annoying announcements concerning a remake. Do it or don't just shut up about it.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:39:19 AM

The Departed is fantastic.

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SvenMD
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:41:19 AM

The opening to The Departed is amazing....then it busts into I'm Shipping up to Boston by the Dropkick Murphys! Insane. Great film....esp on BluRay!

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Irievibes
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:31:01 PM

batman remakes anyone? iron man?
spider man?
superman?

i do get your point though, it may end up being a flop if they change too much , or the art direction of the game simply doesnt have the same "Feel" to it as the original in hd

the same people that created the original arent gonna work on this one neccesarily ,and each individual has its own style , thus there will be differences in the art direciton wich we may or may not like...

i wont lie though, as long as they dont change anything other than graphics and better xlated dialogues, also IF THEY ADD the rumored cut part about reviving aeris and white materia that would be awsome too...cant tell me it wont fit now ;)

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CHAOS THEORY X
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:15:27 AM
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yea should take 3/4 the time to make this game compared to a new one since they have the story and everything...I agree, no changes, but feel free to add as much to the game as you want. BTW I hate the new battle mechanic, tho better than 12, bring back the old turn based! its more strategetic. and no more extreme linearity!! Thanks

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BigBoss4ever
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:25:22 AM
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i am not very thrilled about FF7 remake, or in general, any remake will not be as exciting as a great new original game, thats the fact!

instead of wasting tons of resources, fund, time and energy to re-touch an old thing, rather, it would be much better to spend all that on building a new original great JRPG.

or I will even put this way, say Chrono Trigger is my favorite all time JRPG, but if you ask me whether I want a remake for Chrono Trigger, I would rather say, I want a new PS3 exclusive Chrono Break or Chrono 3. so with this reasoning, you can see why i am not thrilled about the remake of FF7.

with all that said, I have not been thrilled about any Squeeeenx game so far this generation anyway, maybe I started caring less and less about all their games for a while already....and maybe this impression is already irreversible in my mind.

and I see in Wada's reasoning that if he orders a remake, it is not to mainly for fans, but still for the globalization and mass sales greed and that is the only reason why he will want to do a remake, and anything about westernizing or so called innovation all come from that greed. nothing more to be said.

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DeathOfChaos
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:48:29 AM

I still don't quite get why people think this. I think if the main group of creators are overlooking the project, then the game will rstill bring back that feel of FFVII with at realistic look of Advent Children Complete. They like FFVII so much, they take the story of that game at a personal level. Besides, they have some resources they may even get to pull straight from Advent Children Complete.

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Lotusflow3r
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:44:50 AM

BANG.ON.

That is exactly my opinion.

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CHAOS THEORY X
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 8:34:13 AM

I think they need to go back and work on what worked for them before they can make anymore good JRPGs. They aren't doing too well right now.

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Irievibes
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:37:55 PM

fire wada and 60% of squarees problems are solved right there...the other 40% is getting someone with vision and as analy perfectionist as that guy from GT5 and they can do great things...

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DeathOfChaos
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:46:42 AM
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They said a long time ago, at least it feels like a long time ago, that to make a FFVII remake, they would want all the ORIGNAL creators to get back together to make it. That being said, wouldn't that turn out GOOD? They could add a few other people that probably wouldn't effect the original game except for the better (like a good programmer who knows to to use their resources very well) and then ultimately make the remake of FFVII more like a means to put all their FFVII side games to rest. Making an FFVII remake would give all those new fans a full HD experience with the original game in the graphical quality as Advent Children Complete. With that said, I would welcome it. I've played through and beat Final Fantasy VII so many times, and it never gets old. If they were to remake this gem in full HD for the PS3, I would probably replay it even more!!! Add a cinematic theater after beating the game or something, that would be great. That would be a good addition that wouldn't ruin anything, but make things feel better. I would make a separate game save just so I could watch different parts of the game over again or even fight a boss all over again. And if they make a Final Fantasy VII with Kingdom Hearts II graphics, I would love that too, always have ever since KHII came out. Cloud looked awesome in those graphics, in my opinion. Made him look more serious but still left a nostalgic feel because of the more cartoonish, not so real graphics that KHII has.

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Mornelithe
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 1:13:20 AM
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The one and only reason I'd prefer to see this as PS3/PC exclusive, is due to the amount of data that can be used, OR failing that, just pack it onto a shitton of DVD's for the 360. Point is, an FFVII remake would be big. Really...really big. And I wouldn't want to see ANY version suffer, because of possible fee's for the game shipping on too many discs.

I had ~144 hrs on my original save game. I'm not sure there are many other games out there that can boast _that_ much to do in them. Sure allot of it was grinding, but hey, without Final Attack, you ain't killing the other two Weapons. To say nothing of KoTR.

But yeah, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't buy it ;)

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:10:36 PM

I've got 446 hours on FF 12. :)

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Mornelithe
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:15:07 PM

Isn't FF12 online? Yeah...I've got 198 _days_ on my World of Warcraft character.

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:22:36 PM

No final fantasy 11 is the one that is online. Final Fantasy 12 was that last final fantasy on the PS2.

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Mornelithe
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:28:05 PM

Jesus Christ, XII had 446 hours of sh** to do in a Single Player campaign? That's pretty damn impressive. Had no idea.

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Irievibes
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:22:03 PM

i thnk i had about 86 on ff7 , tactics was the realtime sink for me, toped the clock at 99.99.99 so i have no idea the actual hours on it, but i reckon its gotta be about 125ish eyeballing it..

didnt spend that much time with 8 im afraid, about 80ish on 9 too, cant remember FFx but i spent a lot of time on that game getting everyones weapons, especially tidus' i dont wanna see another chocobo or baloon on a ffgame ever again lol

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 11:37:43 PM

A lot of it depends on every individuals style of play. At times it was puzzling trying to figure out to make some of the monster marks to appear. That took me some time. still haven't found every single monster.

I also collected 99 of almost every possible item. Still working on that. not possible to get 99 of every weapon tho. Missed the strongest weapon in the game. Don't know if i have it in me to start over..

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___________
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:06:32 AM
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OMFG can we get over this already?
i thought there not going to do it because it would be "too hard"
i swear to god $E are the industries biggest tease, if your going to do it good shut the fu** up and do it.
if your not, than fine but again stop teasing us.
god there really frustrating!
almost as bad as 3D relms and DNF, but at least you can understand what their going through.
$E have no excuses!

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Gordo
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:41:25 AM
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Phew, it's starting to sound a bit like "no girl ever kissed me like she did when I was 14".

Come on. Remakes? They are on a hiding to nothing.

The nostalgic FF fanboys will criticize every little thing that is different from the original and ignore all the good bits because they are non-canon.

The newbies that have never played the original will be bewildered because it will be fan service and play like a 15 year old game!

Gamers perceptions and levels of patience have change a lot over 15 years. The increase in technology is not always a benefit.

The things that made the original so special are not the things that would make it special now.

FFVII is a classic and as such deserves to be left sacrosanct. Why sully it's memory.

It's like going back out with that 14 year old girl 20 years later and realising that some things were better off left as memories!

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:09:16 AM
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Uh huh, anything else that's new?

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kraygen
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:47:37 AM
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I'm having a good laugh. I still believe that they've had the game under development for a while and just do things like this to cause an uproar.

They'll keep doing this until one day, they'll appear to be making another statement like this one, but then at the end of the conversation say something like, "oh and the game will come out later this year, by the way."

On that day the internet will explode and even mainstream media will carry the story. I'm not psychic but I can totally see this happening.

I also don't think that fans of the original will nitpick a remake to death, some would of course but only a select few I think. I think gamers as a whole are pretty smart and will expect some minor changes. As long as the game is true to the original, with better graphics, same gameplay, same story. We'll love it and it's what so many people want.

And for those who don't like the idea, that's ok, just ignore it and remember the original will always be there. If it is remade, we still have our nostalgia, and new gamers can enjoy the story we all fell in love with.

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shadowscorpio
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 12:21:15 PM

Maybe if another dev company scared square-enix with some competition they would just do this already.

Ohh, I don't know maybe if another dev created a game called 'VII' and put in a disclaimer saying that "If liked Squaresoft's Final Fantasy 7, you'll love this game! ONLY for the PS3!"

Square-enix: "Dammit! We have NO time to loose! We have to get the original Sony and Squaresoft staff together and get the FF 7 remake underway... like right now!!!"

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Andysw
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 5:49:46 AM
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Exclusivity would be wise. Because of the obvious, bluray.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 8:26:53 AM

Funny how blu-ray was once considered the thorn in the PS3's rose bush. Made it too expensive and all developers were still tapping the limits of DVD.

Now Blu-ray is leading the industry by giving developers the freedom to put whatever they want in a game. If it fits on blu-ray, throw it in.

And to think, MS thinks Natal will save the 360. Too little too late. From what I've heard, all the developers and users are having a real hard time with it, to the point that it might get delayed to early 2011 just to work out the kinks.

But it's Microsoft. Natal will release in shoddy unworkable form, be forced to need updates just to get certain games and services working on it, people will buy it, realise it's crap and swap it for either a Wii in their bathrooms (hehe), or the PS3 Move controller.

If you don't believe me, head over to IGN and read the GDC 2010 Editor's Floor Report. This is what they had to say:

1. Playstation Move was announced. Great tech, but underwhelming software to show it off.

2. Developers and random people trying out Natal all claimed it was crap, didn't work properly and that many were on the verge of giving up on it entirely.

3. Wii is finally hitting its stride with games for the hardcore. Here's hope that these hardcore gamers still have their Wii's.

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cowboynwo
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:01:52 AM
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I wish they would stop dragging us over the coals again and again please stop the madness and make it already.

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:45:17 AM
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They should really just get this over with, just start making it(right after Versus and KH3)
And don't, really, DO NOT release any of it on xbox or whatnot, PS3 ONLY.

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Athrin
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 8:26:44 AM
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knowing SE recent mental break downs FFVII remake will be a CrapBox 360 exclusive


FFVII was the first Video game i ever played and i still think its the best game ever made. And im with Ben that if the screw up the remake i cant be help responsible for my actions. And this whole thing about towns hard to make, BS WKC hads lots of towns hell u can make ur own town, SE is just making excuses and it shows how stupid they are.

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gumbi
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 9:05:24 AM
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I really don't know if I actually want them to do this or not... Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see and play FFVII with today's technology, but there's just too much that could go wrong. Remaking FFVII would be like walking on eggshells. This is SE we're talking about after all, they're not the same company they were 15 years ago. This whole thing could just end up leaving a bad taste in our mouths.

What I would like to see is a new and original FF story, with some classic JRPG gameplay. I know they want to appeal to the western market, but at what cost? There are a LOT of western JRPG fans who are very happy with the tried and true formula.

OR even better than that, give me a godam Legend of Dragoon Sequel/Prequel. Criticize away, but I'll take a new LOD game over a FFVII remake anyday.

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556pineapple
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 11:55:51 AM
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Based on the general reception for FFXIII, I'm not sure what we can expect from this. If they do it, I hope they give it to the Kingdom Hearts/Vs. XIII team.

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Nynja
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 2:28:02 PM
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Which platform? Really. Here's a question for copy right lawyers out there...

Sony Computer Entertainment published Final Fantasy VII on the PSone. Are there any standard agreements when this is done? Such as Sony owning rights to the plot, game play, title name, etc.

As long as Sony does not own any rights to FFVII game, I can't see any problems with a remake so long as the PS3 (or PS4) remains the lead platform. I will -NOT- purchase this game or any other Final Fantasy if they lead on 360. I can settle with a PC version though.

Except their MMOs - what can I say, I'm a sucker for their online games

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bearbobby
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 3:45:47 PM
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5 bucks says they're already well into developing the game and are just stringing us along till the big reveal. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. I'd definitely check it out, on PS3 of course.

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CrazyIrishBoy
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 3:47:05 PM
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Just because something is a "remake", doesnt mean that nothing will be changed...

But just to set it straight all i want is a graphical update too, but the script probably should be modified slightly in places.

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Irievibes
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:24:30 PM

i like what they did with Tactics for the psp release, the dialog was MUCH better on the psp version as it was better xlated and it fit the atmosphere of the medieval setting better

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SolidFantasy
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:04:03 PM
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If they did this right and made it the way we (psxextreme)all want them to then it could kick the sh** out of everything else we've seen this generation. That's saying a lot with the likes of MGS4, UC2, KZ2, GOWIII, etc so on so fourth.
However... doing a remake of the legendary FFVII the way we want square to do it seems sadly unlikely. Much like FFXIII I'm sure it would be a damn fine game that could have been an exponentially epic game.

But you never. One can always dream.

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Rings0fUranus
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:14:56 PM
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"and the platform"


i just know microsoft will weasel their way into this... :/

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Phoelix
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 4:25:09 PM
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From what S-E has said in the past about a remake, it seems clear to me that this entire idea is a gimmick for free press. Seriously; unless all of their employees have been living under a rock for the past few years, they HAVE to know that all of the fans want a remake. I don't believe that they are "considering it" now. They've figured out free press: all they have to do is mention the name and people from all around will flock to their website.

That disgusts me. Have any of you at PSX considered just ignoring anything they say from here on out (unless it's a 100% confirmation)? I guess not because this is your job, but still. At this point they are likely just toying with us, and they should be ashamed.

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reryan
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 6:19:31 PM
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I agree that the materia system should stay intact in a remake, and I agree that the storyline should remain intact (maybe some new scenes, some more tie-in with zack, etc.) but I can't imagine how an HD remake of FF7 can fulfill some of the expectations I see on this comment thread: for instance,

1. ff7-8 style atb combat system, where the characters and enemies bounce up and down until their bar is full. I'm not sure how the devs could make this look good in HD. I'd imagine it would be closer to ff12 in that the characters walk around on their own between command inputs to make it look more cinematic.

2. A world map in hd? I can't really picture this. Running around with an hd head poking through the tops of forests? Nah. Would you guys be happy with a ffxii style map?

3. Text bubble NPC conversations don't really apply in the HD world of voice overs. Expect advent children style voices with lip syncing, otherwise whats the point of a full HD- makeover? The traditional NPCs that say the same thing (welcome to Corneria) 1000 times every time you speak to them are a thing of the past.

Overall, my point is that if you want a FFVII remake, expect it to be somewhat different than the original. Even though the original 32 bit game is a masterpiece unto itself, its mores don't apply 12 years later in today's HD gaming world. If SE merely made the exact same game with new graphics, they might as well use the DS or the PSP to accomplish the same end. If they are going to use the full potential of the PS3, then the ff7 remake will not look exactly like what turn-based rpg fanatics are looking forward to.

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DemonNeno
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 7:41:54 PM
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If this game ventures onto the market and, more specifically, finds a home onto the PC, it'll inevitably be tried and pushed onto the Xbox.

Unforunately, "Games for Windows" is a force that'll blow the windows out of your home, raid your entertainment systems and profit Microsoft. As regrettable as it may seem, I would deem it unsafe to port to the PC for this reason. This coming from the guy who has ONLY played FF7 on the PC.

And to set the record straight, the PC version fell victim to the PSX. The Cutscenes were bloated with horrid pixelation. The control axis was unfriendly and controller based (no diagnoal movements. Lame.) and the glitches from translating the code were hideous at times, if not OS freezing.

Since the PC comment has been sparked up, though, I realized a high-res patch has been released for the game... Maybe I'll ditch my PS3 version for a bit and see what 1200p can do for me! :D

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bridgera
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 9:53:51 PM
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All they have to do for this game is touch up the graphics, fix minor translation errors, fix errors with programmable controls, add trophies.

That's it, and I'll buy it. 720p resolution would be nice. It doesn't need to be as pretty as FFXIII to be awesome.

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DemonNeno
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 10:38:28 PM

Eh, it would work, but most people don't realize that the although the PS1 version was based on a 2D texture tile format with 3D Modeling attached to plane coordinates, the actual engine itself is old and useless in todays arena.

You see, the whole image is based on polygons. Redrawing the polygons (larger texture tiles), redrawing the character (larger polygons) and reassembling everything would leave you with a few problems most won't take lightly.

A.) Your 3D polygon characters will look like chess pieces on a chessboard (background)

B.) The engine wasn't meant to handle higher definitions and isn't optimized to do so. Sure, it can be modded to handle it, but it would ultimately need to be rewritten to truly shine. The code is meant to run a PSX File Lib of the past. Small chunks, here and there, and nothing more.

C.) Creating new character models will still leave you with characters that don't have actual images (except for the eyes that are implemented on the polygon characters) but rather only shaded. You'd have two choices here. Either you create images (now you're talking background and polygon characters) or you implement cell-shading such as in Street Fighter IV.

Either way, a good ole fashion "refreshening" will still be very dated. In fact, I'd venture to say it wouldn't be worth much more than what many of us have already paid for on PSN for the unedited copy you can get already.

Look at this link below for a little longer than just the first page to truly appreciate what hard work can do but what you simply can't achieve without reworking the game from the ground up. Keep in mind, this hi def version is running 3x the res the PSX version did.

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8306.0

^ Topic of "rebuilding" a fresh look for the PC game along with ridding glitches

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg278/hellbringer616/16QAA16AF1280x960.png

^ Running 1280x960 res, 16qAA

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv252/grimmy307/ff72009-05-1815-14-02-09.jpg?t=1242678153

^ Idea of how the 2D Texture tiles lay out (this is how they keep your character from walking over 2D "walls" and structures)

http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad160/usebio2k/Befor.png

^File Fragment Shader - Before

http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad160/usebio2k/After.png

^ File Fragment Shader - After

I hope the links don't bother you guys at PSXE.

Long story short, there are obviously enough PC gamers who would LOVE to see a FF7 remake as well! :) Although, I still would hate to open the door to a possible xbox port. Boo.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 @ 9:58:21 PM
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This is GREAT news that has made my day! SE is finally seeing the light that many of us have been trying to get them to see but they were too caught up in making the dough from going multiplat. Perhaps they will finally realize that remaking this great oldie will bring them into a gold mine. It goes without saying that this beauty should go straight to PS3, EXCLUSIVELY. Let me reinstate that... E-X-C-L-U-S-I-V-E-L-Y! However, if SE is still in their mind set of "MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!", then we may be up a creek without a paddle.
However, if we somehow get SE to see that the fans want it to be an exclusive remake, they could possibly do it. Although we need it to be the Japanese fans that have this say-so. It does make sense how they paid much more attention to their homeland because they released so much more (games, movies, etc...) there than they have here. Also, I have a hunch that there aren't many 360s in Japan since 360s are the state's doing.

I agree with you Ben, if they mess this up (provided they even do a remake) they will be murdered and shut down by FF die-hards such as me, you, and everyone else here. They sure got close to that conclusion because of XIII. Luckily, casualties were greatly prevented but can't say the same for a bloody mess up of a great game.
Also think that they never confirmed they were going to set straight for the goal of a remake. But, I don't think this is the time to be saying such down-sided things. Just look to the silver lining, wherever that may be, and keep yourselves pumped and excited. Keep talking it up, it may just push SE into a corner with no way out. Make that remake!!!! :D

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Draguss
Friday, March 26, 2010 @ 8:43:02 PM
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Well, this is nice news. Unfortunately for some reason it seems to reach me with a lot less excitement than past possibilities. Now if Sony announced a Legend of Dragoon remake, that would get my butt bouncing in happiness (yes, weird thing to say, but commonly used here, sounds better in spanish)

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