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Sony: Move Will Appeal To Both The Casual And Hardcore

Not surprisingly, Sony claims that their new PlayStation Move motion-sensing tech offers something players can't find with either the Wii or the Xbox 360.

In speaking with the Financial Times after his MI6 conference speech, Sony boss Peter Dille said the biggest difference between Move and the rest of the competition "is the technology itself." For instance, while the Wii has been very popular, he says "it's not a very precise experience." In regards to Move, which utilizes both a camera (the PlayStation Eye) and a motion-control device held by the player, we'll get more precision and consequently, software that simply wouldn't work on the Wii or with Natal. Furthermore, Sony intends to market it towards both families and adult hardcore gamers and Dille actually believes Move will be a big draw for the avid die-hards:

"Hard-core gamers have looked down their nose at motion gaming: it’s not particularly satisfying for them because it’s not terribly precise or challenging, it’s more social. So we’ll have games that the whole family can play that are very social, but we’ll also be able to do hard-core gamer games via a motion device that has never been done before."

He's probably right about his first sentiment; most adult gamers who don't own a Wii (and have no intention of owning a Wii) sort of see motion-sensing as a pseudo-gaming hobby, designed more for kids and non-gamers than long-time fans of the industry. But with Move, it appears Sony wants to cater to as wide an audience as possible and although Dille says it's too early to determine a "killer app or signature game," Sony will apparently choose a game that is "the poster child or the best one to move Move." We'll certainly be interested to see how it turns out.

4/3/2010 10:38:39 AM Ben Dutka

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St_Jimmy
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 10:52:28 AM
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Is it just me or did they already say this like 10 times?

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shadowpal2
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:03:56 AM

Yea they really are repeating themselves on the whole "FULL MOTION SENSING EXPERIENCE." But I say that it's absolutely necessary to do it. I mean...they really have to in order to convince the crowd who does not have a brain for themselves that a thing like NATAL is obsolete technology that actually came 6 YEARS BACK!!! - with the EyeToy.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:05:45 AM

"Hard-core gamers have looked down their nose at motion gaming: it’s not particularly satisfying for them because it’s not terribly precise or challenging, it’s more social. So we’ll have games that the whole family can play that are very social, but we’ll also be able to do hard-core gamer games via a motion device that has never been done before."

think it's just you. I've never heard this before.

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fluffer nutter
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 12:29:31 PM

Repetition gets the message across to all prospective consumers. If they aren't drilling the information to the masses, it won't get across and people will be dumbfounded and uneducated when the product is released.

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rell
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 12:37:11 PM

@St_Jimmy Sony is promoting move to get peoples attention, M$ does it all the time.

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DemonNeno
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 3:52:39 PM

Well, you'll kinda hear the same thing because that's all there is to it. It's a motion sensing device. What else are they going to talk about to explain their product? It's ability to.. What exactly?

That's right kid. Motion sensing.

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St_Jimmy
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 5:24:06 PM

i wasnt saying it is a bad thing- i just heard it many times before. But i do understand why they keep repeating it.

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PAKINIPS
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:03:15 AM
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Cant wait for move. (i think i preferred the name arc)
If sony advertise this right theres no reason why they cant take a huge chunk of the wiis market and overtake the 360

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kraygen
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 6:26:29 PM

just call it the psm, that way it fits with all the other stuff. Ps3, psn, psm. the perfect "P" family. ;)

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:09:10 AM
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Well, I really liked what Nintendo did with Metroid Prime and the Wiimote, even though it's not perfect. If Sony can do better then that with say Killzone or Resistance then I'm game. I'm actually quite excited to check out Move. Since the beginning I always asked my self "what if" and now it's arrived. Ha.

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nogoat23
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:11:10 AM
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I love that we're living in the future and have cool technology like the move to play around with. It has a huge potential to be used in interesting ways, and not just the fun little mini-games like Wii Sports. Just think about how something like Okami would be with the move. Awesome.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 12:48:04 PM

it'd probably have been about the same as the okami port to the wii? LOL

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Deleted User
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:22:01 AM
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I'm curious to see what they do with it, and I'll probably pick it up. I do like me some casual games every once in a while.

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Bugzbunny109
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:40:38 AM
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Not suprised. It only does everything....

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PAKINIPS
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 11:46:29 AM
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Hang on, MI6 conference? Isnt that some sort of secret intelligence service? Why was SONY talking to them? *Raised eyebrow

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 1:39:32 PM

new bond game?

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 4:47:54 PM

MI6 is of course interested in Sony's technology, robots controlled by precise motion sensing, ya hear what I'm sayin'

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Highlander
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 8:56:17 PM

@fullmetal, if you examine the kinds of remote control systems are used to perform 'live' control of robotic arms, Sony's Move controller stacks up very well since it can be tracked in dimensions, the angle, tilt, yaw and all different axes of movement are tracked and the inclusion of pressure sensitive controls that can be triggered allows the 'hands' of whatever is being controlled to grasp things with variable strength. A pair of Move controllers would give a very high degree of control and motion tracking that is not possible with a simple camera system or a single controller wand system. When you start comparing this technology of Sony's against the real technology in use in industry and the technology industry in particular, you come to appreciate what Sony is going to pull off with this solution.

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 7:48:00 AM

Sony has molded the best of both worlds with Move.

1. The PSeye Camera
2. The Move motion controls

Using both together allows your image and accurate movements to be in the game perfectly.

I don't see how Natal or Wii is going to match or beat this tech for the next few years. Natal is a camera, Wii is primitive motion controls. Move is a mixture of both "with a lot of potential" as quoted by many editors from GDC 10.

If marketed well to the casual audience (hardcore already have been reading bout it), then Sony really have this in the bag.

I just hope that they keep going with the mentality that they need more games, more exclusives, more killer apps like Uncharted 2 and God of War 3.

And imagine if what they said at E3 2009 does happen? That's right!!! Motion controls for Ratchet and Clank!!! Kids would go bonkers for it.

Throw in a blu-ray player, web browser, movie and tv streaming, kickass games and media storage unit, along with Move, I believe $499 ($299 US) plus the Move price ($80-$150) is unbelievably cheap for years of cutting edge entertainment.

Dear Sony,

Feel free to contact me for one helluva salesperson. You need to advertise, and I'd be happy to help. Keep it up Kevin. :)

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Highlander
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 5:52:46 PM

The thing is that I have both the PSEye and the Sixaxis controller already, I have the two halves of what became Move, what Sony has done with Move is take the Sixaxis, and split it in two so the hands are able to move independently and add the LED ball to assist in tracking in poor light.

For all the whining of MS and Nintendo, Move is an evolution of what sixaxis and the PS Eye already provided. The game EyePet was already coming out prior to PS Move, and in fact I believe has already launched in other territories, it only uses the PS Eye and accomplishes the majority of what Natal promises.

Ah facts, I love them.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 2:27:07 AM

Well, Eyepet came out in Australia in November.

Didn't sell very well, unfortunately, cos Sony HASN'T ADVERTISED IT!!!!

Really!!! I haven't seen this great interactive kids game advertised anywhere!!!
And it was only 69 bucks with the camera!!! (Thats the equivelent of $39 US)

Eyepet showed that the camera and tech already exists, Natal is simply copying. The only thing MS is good at is advertising and promoting their cruddy products. They talk about Halo Reach and Natal as the second coming of Jesus, or the resurrection of Elvis.

God!!! I hate MS sooo much right now, I think I might go play Poker Face by Cartman on Rock Band 2. Hehe, fun times.

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mike_1
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 12:24:56 PM
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Sony can pull it off better than anyone. The more stories come out about the move the more I'm interested. Will be had to give up the six axis though. That controller style has worked 4 me since ps1. People will just be upset about the $100 price tag at first.

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dctravis
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 3:34:57 PM

it may be 100 dollars. but for that price your getting a game, a HQ webcam, and the move controller. the wiimote with a wii motion plus adapter alone would cost you about 70 bucks.

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Kai200X
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 12:59:00 PM
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I totally believe in Sony. I'm convinced by just watching the guy play hardcore game like SOCOM4 with Move while sitting down casually.

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shadowscorpio
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 1:12:52 PM
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Well I just hope that games aren't made soley for the Move and rather give you the option to use the Move or the traditional controller.

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kraygen
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 6:28:31 PM

Most likely there will be a mixture of both. Some games will be made specifically for the move while others will most likely give you the option. They surely won't expect everyone to run out and buy a move for every single game.

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Lazytrappin
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 1:15:58 PM
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I'm very interested in the Move. I want to play Motion Fighter. I can get all into this as long as the motion controls are accurate and responsive. Bad controls = fail. I hope you do it right, Sony.

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Lazytrappin
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 1:17:33 PM
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I want to see a quality first-person shooter utilizing this technology. I also want some sort of rifle that I can use as a controller.

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 7:53:28 AM

You're in luck.

Killzone 2 is apparently going to be patched with Move controls.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 1:40:48 PM
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I hope it works out for them. Sounds like Natal isn't working at all.

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coyo18
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 2:21:14 PM
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It's Sony, enough said

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JackC8
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 4:22:30 PM
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It'll be interesting to see what they come up with as far as hardcore games built from the ground up for the Move. I'm not especially excited about it right now, but I have a feeling they may surprise me :)

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 4:54:30 PM
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I hope it will be a success, I don't hope they will put all their energy in the Move though.

Would be cool to play some open world samurai game with that, roaming around, fighting peepz with the motion thing, yeah, I can see it already, now they just need to make it for me.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 5:07:41 PM
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Oblivion could be interesting.

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mike_1
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 5:16:31 PM
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The only thing I like about the wii remote was that u were able to play a fps like cod world at war like an old school arcade. Too bad the graphics sucked for the wii and the game looked horrible. The ps3 did have something similar when time crisis 4 came out. But that flopped

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FlyingKickPunch
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 5:21:26 PM
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finally, we can get that long awaited crypt killer sequel/remake!

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D1g1tal5torm
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 5:24:46 PM
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No it wont.

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Alienange
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 1:11:04 AM

You're right.

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mike_1
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 5:27:24 PM
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The only thing I like about the wii remote was that u were able to play a fps like cod world at war like an old school arcade. Too bad the graphics sucked for the wii and the game looked horrible. The ps3 did have something similar when time crisis 4 came out. But that flopped

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mike_1
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 5:51:49 PM
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I'm new to posting on this site so I have no idea how that happened 2 times more than I wanted to do

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kraygen
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 6:30:48 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Move can be for the hardcore gamers.

Demon's Souls 2 + Psm = Heck Yeah!

Feel free to jump into my game anytime, me and my move will cut you down. Muahahaha.

That's my big hope anyway.

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Snaaaake
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 8:32:26 PM
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It all depends on the game.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 9:50:55 PM
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Move will be for any type of ganmer who want's to use it, hardcore & not!

At 57, I'm an old school gamers, & I still want it. And I want to see it succeed too, along with 3D & any other new cool technologies that we haven't even thought of yet.

For myself in the future, I'd love to have a individual game pod where I could step into it and then become fully immersed in the pod. I can play any game ever made just by pointing out my selection on a holographic menu, and the game will open into a full sweeping 300 & 60 degree panoramic 3D view(both horizontal & vertical). It will also utilize a full telepathic 6th-sense surround-sound,& 100% full-capability rumble, and also being able to game match any movements too, due to multiple gyroscopes built into it.

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Dancemachine55
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 7:57:26 AM

Wow, I can see this pod being the Playstation 8. Then the PS9 comes out which uses molecular tech to enhance your senses, etc.

Check out the PS9 video on youtube for the PS2 when it first released. Very clever commercial.

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Imagi
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 3:09:35 PM

Albert Hofmann was almost there in the Sixties ;)

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Temjin001
Saturday, April 03, 2010 @ 10:14:38 PM
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Yah, I seriously have my doubts on anything significant coming to the more hardcore gamer. I'd imagine, that if, or, until the Move peripheral becomes heavily adopted we probably won't see massive game projects appearing for the controller.

Games like Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 had massive budgets where a dev could count on a large user-base that nearly promises big returns.

I don't want to downplay the whole motion-control thing, but the Wii hasn't done much to make me enjoy gaming more. Heck, I always thought gaming control interfaces should be as unobtrusive as possible. With a control pad simply serving as the conduit between your mind and the game. Is there really anything much more simple than pressing a few buttons? I don't want to play Tekken trying to do spinning uppercuts or motioning Ryu fireballs in Street Fighter-well, maybe once or twice- to play my fighters. I couldn't even imagine how something like God of War could work well. Anyway, go Sony! I want you to make me eat my words.


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Alienange
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 1:12:48 AM
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Gamers, deep down, just want to push buttons. It's why we went from one to two to four to ten buttons on our controllers. Motion controls for a FF or the next Uncharted is just not that appealing to "that" demographic.

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Roach721
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 1:46:06 AM
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Can't wait hope this helps out the RTS genre.

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Alienange
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 8:34:00 AM

Don't get your hopes up. The RTS genre is nearly extinct on the PS3 and I highly doubt those who enjoy them will ditch their mouse and keyboard to buy an expensive peripheral for their PS3.

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NeoHumpty
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 9:52:27 AM

Another reason my $60 FragFX will be collecting dust. I'm looking forward to trying it out, and that Archery pic looks awesome.

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___________
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 2:13:47 AM
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hell socom 4 proves that.
as ive said many times motion controls could really revolutionize shooters and make aiming much easier and much more precise.
i hope move catches on quickly and every game both first and third party supports move, but give us the option to use either move or the DS3.
dont force us to use either, because theres somethings move will make easier, and theres somethings move would make a pain in the a$$.
not to mention its not going to be cheap, so i cant see it catching on too quickly.

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Imagi
Sunday, April 04, 2010 @ 3:04:52 PM
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Looking forward to this, just got back from doing the family thing and have been subjected to looking like an idiot on the Wii with some dancing game. Always good to have some variety in the games we play.

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Gamer46
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 1:17:39 AM
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As long as I always have the option to use the Dualshock3, I don't really care what group of gamers they try to appeal to with Move. I just hope it doesn't make the DS3 obsolete, I don't see too many benefits of motion control over what we already have.

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Orvisman
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 11:33:13 AM
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I was watching a preview of the Move on X-Play. They covered The Shoot, Sports Champions, and Motion Fighter.

The Shoot preview was a liitle more in depth and very interesting. While The Shoot had everything you'd expect of a rail shooter, it also had some unique elements the Wii couldn't pull off thanks to the PS Eye element. Three things that caught my eye:

1) If you hold the Move extended in front of your body and spin 360 degrees, you'll unleash a special attack.

2) If you sidestep to the left or right, your onscreen character does the same.

3) To duck or kneel and shoot all you have to do is take a knee.

Pretty damn cool! The Wiimotion-plus can't do this. Obviously, this is the same type of thing M$ft is trying to do with Natal and all you hear from X-heads is how much of a fail the Move is compared with Natal. But I guess if you're 13 you might not remember the 10-year-old PSEye Toy on the PS2.

So how can Sony be copying MSft and Nintendo when Sony pioneered motion controls on consoles before either of those companies decided to do it... and Sony is the copycat? Some people just like to ignore facts.

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Minishmaru
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 2:07:26 PM
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I just looove the new commercial where they make fun of the wii and natal!

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photo K
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 2:36:18 PM
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its a wicked smart move, it needs to appeal to everyone to be successful.

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NetheRealm
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 3:33:33 AM
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Natal is way better than Move, Milo and big red balls rule!

That's my psuedo xbox fanboy post feel free to thumb it down lol.

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