Yamauchi: GT5 Doesn't Currently Support 3D Or Move
Sony has recently said to expect Gran Turismo 5 to launch this fall; it's supposedly a "guarantee" that it won't slip out of 2010.
In the meantime, racing fans everywhere are inquiring after the cause of the significant delay. You may recall that it was initially expected to release in Japan in March, so to push it all the way to the end of the year is a big deal; we simulator aficionados simply want an explanation. And at first, we thought we had one: while the game is around "90% complete," Polyphony apparently wanted to add 3D technology and a nifty little GPS feature. But now, series creator Kazunori Yamauchi has said that neither 3D nor PlayStation Move support is included in GT5...yet. According to an interview he gave PSM3 magazine and as cited by CVG, Yamauchi made the situation quite clear, although he didn't rule anything out:
"We're always attuned to new technologies. If there are display devices or peripherals that seem interesting, I'm sure we'll work to support them."
At this point, it's likely that the fans just want GT5, with or without the frills. The idea of 3D and Move support is just fine but if it causes another delay, the decision to include such technology won't go over very well. Here's hoping that GT5 will be ready to go this fall.
Related Game(s): Gran Turismo 5
4/5/2010 9:02:19 PM John Shepard
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Dancemachine55
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 9:38:51 PM
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maxpontiac
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:00:09 PM
Imagi
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:25:56 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 9:55:09 PM
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maxpontiac
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:02:06 PM
kraygen
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:03:27 PM
DemonNeno
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:05:54 PM
maxpontiac
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:10:22 PM
Although I want GT5 BAD, I don't mind waiting because it allows me to play other games!
GT5 represents hundreds of hours for me. I literaly went through GT4 twice, so I know the rest of my collection will be ignored once the GT5 disc is placed in my PS3.
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:32:27 PM
coverton341
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 10:12:41 AM
Don't get me wrong, I have complete faith that this game is going to be amazing as all the other games in the series have been, with maybe the exception of the PSP version, I don't know I don't own a PSP, but someone needs to be held accountable for this massive delay. I honestly don't think it is PD on the hold up either. Developers as solid as PD don't tend to make brazen claims about a game being ready for release when said game is still a year out.
I honestly think Sony has been pushing them back so they could integrate 3D and Move technology, so I also think that them saying neither are supported yet is them really saying "Sony wanted us to put it in so we have to delay the game to do that".
But, if this were another developer or if this was happening to a 360 game most of the people here would be rolling around laughing and pointing and having a great time at the expense of the developer, fans of the series, and owners of the system. It is just a bit disquieting to not only see not very many people demanding accountability but also excusing the delays so vehemently.
That's just my opinion though, no need to take it personal or anything.
maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 11:15:07 AM
coverton341
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 11:37:48 AM
Like I said I am sure it will be great when it comes out.
coverton341
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 11:40:39 AM
If that isn't good enough to be at least a bit upset by a delay this long I don't really know what is.
maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:30:16 PM
The internet and sites around the web have taken small bits of information and ran with it. People have no one to blame but themselves if they believed the hype generated over GT5's release.
I can't believe how people on the internet think the game has been delayed multiple times when in reality, it's only been delayed once in Japan. Never in North America or Europe.
Yes, people defend GT5. But people also gripe over the lack of the game being released as it's something that their life depends on.
maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:39:51 PM
coverton341
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:57:28 PM
Again my only real issue with any of this is that had Microsoft Game Studio or another developer for the 360 made the exact same statements and then a year later not have released a game a ton of people on this site would be laughing and gloating but in this case a ton of people are just making excuses and splitting hairs about what was said.
I am in no way bashing the game or the developer nor am I defending any studio that produces games for the 360. What I am doing is trying to point out a huge disparity in the attitudes of people here when it comes to this title against other titles. I just don't get why so many people rush to stick up for it when I think people have the right to be a little peeved at this point at someone be it PD or Sony or whoever may be behind the amount of time it is taking to release GT5.
maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 7:27:07 PM
This is a Playstation site. Why do you, or would you expect any different?
Plus, Microsoft since the beginning of this generation has been nothing more then an example of what a fanboy is.
How many times did Turn 10 slander PD?
Did not Turn 10 attempt to bribe an internet community in a GT vs Forza poll with free DLC?
How many times has some MS PR guy slammed something the PS3 is doing? Even recently someone from MS slammed the PS3's web browser.
How do you find it hypocritical when a mudslinging company such as Microsoft is critized by members of a Playstation site? This is PSX right?
Anyways...Is it "right" who knows. Who cares.
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coverton341
Wednesday, April 07, 2010 @ 1:20:39 PM
daus26
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:06:40 PM
Gregory Freeman
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 6:12:54 PM
DemonNeno
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:27:59 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:34:04 PM
fluffer nutter
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 11:44:19 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:18:24 AM
daus26
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:03:56 PM
There was more to it in that statement. I follow their news carefully so I pay attention to every detail.
He may have said "they could release it anytime" but Kaz clearly said the game at the current state when he said that, is done and could practically be a complete racing game to that of the current standard.
Then he adds on that, while it may already be a standard for current racing games, he feels like the experience for a GT game isn't completed yet. Further input was said when he explained about the 65% completion progress in TGS.
This is also one of the reasons why we can never take a translation 100% for granted.
Deleted User
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 1:31:35 AM
Alienange
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:28:19 PM
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Last year we had all the excuses in the book for why GT5 wasn't coming out. Now we're hearing those additions aren't actually in the game. Did they perhaps bite off more than they could chew? Or did they realize that weather, night driving and car damage are by FAR, much better features to focus on than silly tech gimmicks?
I don't know the answer to those questions, but I DO know that there are millions of people that just want a good car game.
NoSmokingBandit
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:31:24 PM
NeoHumpty
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:56:04 PM
maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:37:21 PM
Dancemachine55
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:50:55 PM
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every individual car's handling
environmental graphics
effects of the environment of the car
individual car damage
making NASCAR and WRC as good as the standard GT5 races
... then I will be a very happen man. I would love to see all those perfected.
As for 3D and Move?
1. Don't care for Move in GT5. Not necessary.
2. 3D would work well for approaching corners, but only if done incredibly well. Even then, less than 1% of people with GT5 would be playing it on a 3D ready TV.
Dancemachine55
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 10:52:33 PM
BikerSaint
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 11:00:14 PM
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Then just "what the hell" have they been doing with all those months of extra time??? Especially when Yamauchi said that "We can put out GT5 anytime now, and that was said to us LAST YEAR"!!!!!
The time for GT5's release was way, way, way, before yesterday!!!!!
To me, this is getting quite sickening & pathetic, and admitting that you haven't even put in the support for 3D & Move already, is the biggest disappointment of this decade.
Take a damned OCD pill, give us the frigging, game already, and get to work ASAP, making a patch for 3d/move, just so it will "ALL" be ready.
NO MORE EXCUSES!!!!!!!
fluffer nutter
Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 11:46:54 PM
maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:31:31 PM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:30:27 AM
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"So what" if I wait or not????
I usually do wait for used games, but FYI, not all the time, and a few games I do buy new. And I just bought 2 new games today.
But why should any of that even matter???
The fact of my statement above has no bearing on when I, me, or myself, will wind up buying it.
Or you mean I shouldn't feel the pain for those who have been waiting patiently for it for so long????
So your point again, was?
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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:32:33 AM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:46:53 AM
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I did see the lil emotion thingie at the end, but since I'm behind the times on all the computer lingo, I don't know what it actually meant.
And BTW, you had no reply button for, as is usually the case for most of the reply buttons most of the time, nobody has one. So then I have to put my reply as close as I can(I thought I've explained this about that "reply button" problem to everyone, a gazillion times already).
As for the punctuation, I just feel the need to abuse something especially since Demon Dog shows me the needle sitting in his pearly's every time I try to field-goal him across the room.
fluffer nutter
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:52:32 AM
Hitch
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:07:21 AM
aaronisbla
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 5:58:18 AM
FM23
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 12:54:53 AM
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Totally agree man, why should one damn game take so long to come out...seriously, if all I did was make games, it should be my number one priorty to finish it on time. I have a feeling that GT5 might not live up to all the hype it has made for itself, but then again...only time will tell. A guy at gamestop told me they are trying to fix the crash animations, that may or may not be true...point is, why are they waiting so damn long to release this already.
StangMan80
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:09:45 AM
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:14:48 AM
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That having been said, I'm not entirely certain as to the size of the dev team. But, FM23, and folks like you. Look, here's the simple equation of why it's taking so long.
950-1000 cars x 720 coding hours (1 month per car, according to a Kaz interview) = 684,000-720,000 hours or 28,500-30,000 coding days. Just for the cars. Factor in the game engine itself. Factor in the tracks that're ~5cm deviation from the norm. Factor in the crowds, the environment detail. Etc.... Yeah, it was pretty damn obvious about...oh, 2 months into the PS3's launch that this game would take a very long time to create.
I don't blame people for being anxious, I really don't, I want it just as much as anyone, and probably more than many. But, I also want something that PD and Kaz are both proud of and satisfied with. I've had no complaints about any of their previous works, I feel no reason to start after 13 years of Gran Turismo.
RebelJD
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:29:23 AM
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This game could have came out in '08-'09 and been a great success, paving the way for it's successor of 2011-'12. Instead, people are going to want perfection the first time around...and indeed GT5 developers are aware and aiming for that. A task that has proven to be overwhelming and foolish. Just ask Dr.Dre about Detox...apparently its first single is slated to come out soon (whoopie-doo). After 10 years of a wait, who the hell cares and it won't meet its fans standards, trust me.
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:53:04 AM
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No, the damned button was missing from your last post to me too, although a few other poster's buttons are still there.(the same goes for your report spam button too, although I don't have much use for it anyway cause Ben usually stays on top of it & deletes it right away, LOL).
Not sure what the hell it is or what's causing it, but once anybody hits a poster's reply button just once, it goes AWOL on me.
So when that happens, I have to find the closets poster under yours that still has their reply button showing, and I wind up having to use theirs to reply to yours, or others.
And other times, when I "do" have the reply button there, and I replied back, my post still goes to wherever the site decides to place it.
BTW, this is the only site I've ever been to that ever does this, loses the reply button, & also plays hit-or-miss roulette with placement of my posts.
And believe me, it winds up driving me even more bonkers than the guys trying to decrypt who the hell I'm even replying to.
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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:30:03 AM
Gordo
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 5:42:32 AM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 9:30:46 AM
Thanks for trying to help.
OK, I turned the light on, but it's still a bit too dim, I think, LOL
Hmmm, let me see if I'm understanding you right, on how to do this correctly.
So you're saying that if I want to reply to someone, I have to hit "my own reply button" to do it, instead of hitting that person's button to whom I want to reply too?
So, is that right???
(If so, it just didn't make much sense to me, & I've never been to a site that does their reply button butt-backwards).
BTW, for this post, I just hit my own reply button in my post above yours to test this theory out, but this is where my reply still landed, 4 spots down.
ARRRGGGHHHH, no wonder my hair's growing grayer by the second.
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rogers71
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 11:04:40 AM
The reason your post went 4 spots down is because people were posting at the same time you were so it puts them in order by timestamp of when you hit the submit comment button.
As far as why the reply button only shows for the original post, if everyone had a reply button we would have threads spreading out from left to right all the way across the page. Therefore, by putting the reply button on the original post, they keep the threads uniform and straight down the page. You are overthinking the structure.
If you want to reply to someone, scroll up until you find the post with the reply button and just put the person's name in your post that you are replying to. It is quite simple.
___________
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:29:08 AM
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anyway, honestly i could not care less what GT5 does, or does not support.
hell give me the trial demo with at least 300 different cars and ill be happy.
im sick of waiting 5+ years for this to release!
it would be ok if we had other things to tide us over till release, to fill the itch but we dont.
GT5P was so plain and boring i got sick of it in a day, i have not tried forza 3, and as for NFSS its a great game but not exactly a substitute for GT5.
so i conclude JUST RELEASE THE FU**ING THING ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:31:34 AM
aaronisbla
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 6:00:37 AM
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Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 8:20:12 AM
BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 9:40:41 AM
rogers71
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 11:07:39 AM
daizycutter
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 6:25:48 AM
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ChronowerX_GT
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 7:07:44 AM
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But if the game's 90% complete then those last 10% are the most important. The game needs a finished feel to it and GT has always delivered that and that's why we love it.
I know that 6 years is a heck of a long time for a game to be in development but that's what you get when you're not as limited by the hardware.
For example, imagine how much longer the cars take to model at 500,000 polygons next to GT4's 4000 and there's 300 more cars in GT5.
Getting the textures and lighting just right as well. There was only so much you could do with the PS1 and PS2 before you hit it's limit. Never mind the limit of CD's and DVD's next to BD.
The extra processing power will allow more realistic physics and more human like AI which will take more time to develop.
And at the very least the move to HD will show up any little imperfections. I know the NTSC release of GT4 supported 1080i but really how many people actually played it in HD.
JackC8
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 7:36:25 AM
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Even with FFXIII, people knew that it would be linear and wouldn't have towns, so their expectations were tempered. Not so with GT5 - anything that any other racing game can do, GT5 will do 5 times better.
Okay. We'll see.
LightShow
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 8:11:07 AM
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but 3d is an all-win situation, long as they give the option to sink it in to the screen instead of pulling everything out away from the screen. that way when someone just wants to be able to judge corners better without getting motion sick (like me) they can do that.
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Imagi
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:38:30 PM
NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 9:34:06 AM
Deleted User
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 1:35:33 AM
FullmetalX10
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 9:42:16 AM
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Anyways, as long as it makes the game super awesome, like not just regular super awesome, but more like really fancy, shiny, super awesome.
It might be a bit of a problem in the end though, because all over the web I see people commenting, oh no another delay, fck u polyphony I won't buy this now.
Those people will still buy it guess, but there might be a few original buyers who won't, that costs.
Irievibes
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 9:49:24 AM
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no...i dont think the delayhs are because of 3d , i think its more of a them giving themselves an unspecified timeframe , so they can release it in christmas ift hey want to, good idea though, plenty of other games releasing this first half so it makes sense to wait till end of the year
CH1N00K
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 9:50:15 AM
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As for GT5 and Move? No thank you. Although wasn't there talk a little while ago of there being some kind of motion control with the PSEye? if you looked to the corner of your screen, your camera view would look out the side window or something? That's kind of neat but full on controlling the care with a Move is something I don't think would go well. A force feedback wheel would be better.
Highlander
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 11:50:47 AM
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rogers71
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:12:57 PM
Jawknee
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:20:25 PM
Highlander
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 11:26:28 PM
Unfortunately my wife woke me early and reminded me I work for a living - LOL! No hibernation for me, but Polyphony needs to understand that many gamers (myself included) are so fed up waiting that if GT5 doesn't knock our socks off, it will be harder to persuade us that GT6 is worth worrying about.
Imagi
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 1:17:59 PM
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I just bought NFS Shift this weekend because I am tired of waiting for this game. They should just stop it with the teasing, 90% done..., can release anytime etc.. and just STFU! Only thing I want to hear from them is a non moving shipping date so I know when to head out and hand over my cash for it.
Jawknee
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 2:20:52 PM
Imagi
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 4:44:50 PM
Think I am going to follow Highlanders lead and just ignore all things GT and be pleasantly surprised when I see it on a shop shelf. I now expect a late November release date as this is a system seller game that would be good for the PS3 sales this xmas.
IDnightwalker85
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 6:56:39 PM
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Imagi
Wednesday, April 07, 2010 @ 1:55:09 AM
bigrailer19
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 7:47:24 PM
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I recall that 3d, and a gps feature were part of this set back though. I dont know this is outta control!
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Mornelithe
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 @ 10:32:28 PM
http://ces.gamespot.com/story/6245185/gran-turismo-5-in-3d
And to a much much higher degree of fidelity than my pocket will be able to afford at any point in the foreseeable future, ala:
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/11/19/pfft-1080p-gran-turismo-5-prologue-in-2160p/
It doesn't mention it in this particular article, but I do believe that this setup used 3D also. Either way though, PD's already got a 3D system setup for GT5, it's more likely they're making certain everything else is polished, re-polished, and polished again. I'd also be willing to bet they're putting off the launch date to be able to add as many cars as humanly possible.
Nerull
Wednesday, April 07, 2010 @ 12:32:21 AM
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There was no reason for 3d to delay it in the first place, if many other games can apparently have it patched in later why can't gt? And why would the move even be thought of for gt? Motion controls don't work for steering anything with precision aka the lair syndrome.
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Monday, April 05, 2010 @ 9:36:36 PM
3D would make corner appraoches better to judge though, so I'm all for it. Only if it's very well implemented, and knowing Yamauchi, it will be.