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Are Network Users More Mature Than Live Users?

I will freely admit that I don't play online that often - I'm usually far too busy and I still prefer single-player campaigns - but over the past few years, I've spent my fair share of time on both the PlayStation Network and Xbox Live. Now, is it just me, or does the level of immaturity on one vastly outstrip that of the other?

Perhaps it can be called an unfair observation as everyone undoubtedly has different experiences online, but I've also noticed that many of our PSXE members have reported a similar situation. Now, studies have indicated that the average PS3 owner may be significantly older than the average Xbox 360 owner, and there's a bit of common sense and logic that supports that idea: the PS3 was very expensive when it first launched; a $600 price tag isn't exactly accessible to younger gamers. Furthermore, the PlayStation generation began five years before the Xbox generation and hence, many of those who currently own a PS3 became fans of Sony back in the '90s. Then there's the argument that PlayStation fans are just more mature in general, but I'm not sure that's realistic and it'd be a little difficult to find statistics for either side. But the bottom line is that while online multiplayer is always iffy to begin with - incessant swearing, unbelievably retarded comments, even racism and sexism - it seems that Live just has...well, more of it.

I just tend to hear younger voices, dumber comments, and more ridiculously childish behavior on Live. Now, for the record, you will still find plenty of that on the PSN; the entire situation is more than a little depressing. One minute, I think the gaming crowd might actually be starting to grow up (Heavy Rain has topped 1 million in sales, for instance) and the next, I'm convinced that only 13-year-old idiots play online. But is it really worse on one service than the other? What are your experiences like?

4/12/2010 9:21:49 PM Ben Dutka

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I C E_COLD
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:39:18 PM
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Yes!

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shadowpal2
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:27:42 PM

I concur with this man. Well...ugh...I can definitely say the community on the PSP is pretty damn mature and stuff. Playing the SOCOM series and all...I mean the guys there are great. And I'm pretty sure that most of the community is on SOCOM since that's like the main infrastructure game.

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packersfan66
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:02:24 PM

i dunno it's a pretty arrogant and very unfactual thing to say to someone in an argument

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:39:31 PM
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Always had decent enough experiences on PSN, but I don't do much multiplayer stuff either. Just not my bag.

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I C E_COLD
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:43:35 PM
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I've ran into more mature gamers on psn than I have on live , I've played MW2 on both and dam! those xbots don't shut up!

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Jawknee
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:43:54 PM
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YES!

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eLLeJuss
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:44:15 PM
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Rofl. u should see PS home. i can watch people there all day.

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www
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 5:52:27 AM

Yeah, people talk a whole lot of sh*t in PS Home.

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Jackyl
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:46:44 PM
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Wouldn't know. I don't go there. That's a scary place.

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Club80
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:49:43 PM
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I recall the first time I played Warhawk. The host of the game actually told everyone in the game how to play via voice. He gave lots of tips and was really a nice guy! I've not ran into any a-holes on PSN.

The first time I went online with Uno, on the 360, I was called lots of racist and homophobic names. I thought Uno would be benign, yet it turned into a hate session. I've not played anything online on Live since.

I would say that PSN users are more mature, by a long shot!

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rogers71
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:05:33 AM

You think your experience with UNO on Live was bad, read my post towards the end of the comments. I think I have you beat. lol

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BigT_1980
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:22:29 AM

Club when I used to play Warhawk over a year ago for the most part it was a pleasant experience. For whatever reason I decided to go on about a week ago I came across so many rude a-holes I just stopped playing after three matches. If you ever decide to go back online be prepared to deal with ignorant racist a-holes.

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Nlayer
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:50:18 PM
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I've tried my hand at both the PSN and XBL. I can honestly say that I have had a better experience on the PSN. Actually, I'm afraid to play games on the XBL for fear of running into the idiotic childish gamers who yell at me through the whole online game, it's such a headache! They even report me if I die on their team. It's ridiculous. While the PSN is a very different story. When playing online with the PS3, I find it easy to get along with everyone and I have no problems with jumping right in.

My XBL will expire next month and I will not be re-newing it. I don't really play much online, but when I do I'll just go with the PSN where I know I'll have a good time. =]

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VicTheMighty
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:52:59 PM
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Yeah it is. And, you know, it would be nice to be able to put age restriction in our very own user created room lol. Like example: CODMW2 room 13 and UNDER... INSTA BAN.

Sure it wouldnt work flawlessly since some kids might play on their dads accounts but we might be able to get rid of the main flock lolll

And yeah same thing the other way around also... 13yrs old could create 13 and under games haha then they wouldn't have to cope with us either :D

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bigrailer19
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:53:01 PM
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to be honest i havnt played on live. But I've had my share of both mature and no where near mature on the PSN. I honestly think its probably a better experience on the PSN only because it has a more mature user base.

Im an avid online player and games like MW, and MW2, i run into the worst gamers ever. I enjoyed the game, but ill admit the servers are full of nonsense.

Then i get on exclusives like UC2, or even MAG, and KZ2 and its nothing but people who wanna have fun. I dont actually hear a lot of people talk on UC2, but when i play MAG its all about teamwork. Everyone who plays MAG in my opinion are the best gamers. That game truly is a godsend to a network full of mature users.

I dont know why, but although ive ran into my share of dorks on the PSN, that just wanna talk crap, I find my experience on the network to be very enjoyable and id say 50% of my gaming is done online. I cant explain why but the COD series brings most of the negative gamers, while as i said it seems like the exclusives, like MAG bring the best gamers.

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Kowhoho
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:55:34 PM
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I think it varies on a game-by-game basis too, to some extent. When you go online to play MW2 you (I) are probably not that serious. I went to a console party (with 8 or so PS3's hooked up) and all of us went online in the same lobby, all the while drinking soda and screaming "FOR NARNIA" into our mics as loud as we could. Fun for us, but in retrospect probably not so fun for the other players.
Then you have MAG, where I have always followed/suggested orders and contributed to the conversation, as does everyone else. I've yet to meet an inconsiderate person in a round of MAG.

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Kowhoho
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:07:46 PM

Then again I just read that Uno story above....0_o
I don't know what to believe anymore.

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dachemists
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:11:03 PM

i agree, i havent yet heard a "MW2 tantrum" on MAG, guess thats the reason MW2 found a new home on my shelf

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Kowhoho
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:48:21 PM

Lol, my copy found it's place on someone else's shelf...

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:58:26 PM
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My brief time on Live was not very pleasant. I used to play LostPlanet online on the 360 and it was full of kids. As far as maturity goes in my experience it's PC community, PSN, Live.

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BlackBriar
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:58:31 PM
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Hell yea, You encounter a much younger stupider crowd with xbox live, and their really annoying. With psn it's once in while you get a jackass. But when comes to Modern Warfare 2 on xbox live its in every damn room. Psn is by far my favorite

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SnipeySnake
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:58:38 PM
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Well the 360 comes with a wired headset which leads to more annoying kids. While on the ps3, they'd need to buy it which they would rather buy a game instead.

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SnipeySnake
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:03:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG8zbrK3nV4

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Kingshitv4
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:06:12 PM

ON 360 have to pay for live which is about the price of a new/used game, Whats the difference the first year?

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SnipeySnake
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:09:40 PM

@Kingshitv4
err....what?

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Jed
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:41:02 AM

I think you just made Ben's point with that video. There is nothing more annoying than a childs voice on Live.

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sonic1899
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:03:13 AM

@SnipeySnake
There's a video called "I am done with xbox live" on the right side. Go check it out

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elass0wyp0
Thursday, April 15, 2010 @ 5:36:56 PM

Exactly. They get a headset and feel it's their right to use it, they are paying for the service and feel very entitled to do whatever they want, regardless of other gamers experience. They also believe they are anonymous online.

I found that if you say "shhhhhh!" to LIVE kids they don't know what to do or say and just stop talking. It must take them back to infancy or remind them of their mother, they know how to reply to aggressive taunts but a simple "Shhhhhhh!" just baffles them. Try it, it really works. You may have to vary the "shhh" sound to get it just right.



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Highlander
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:58:57 PM
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In my limited experience of Xbox Libe I have heard nothing but foul mouthed verbal abuse. On PSN I've had better luck, a lot more families and parents with kids playing, so language tends to be moderated or people get kicked. Of course that's not always the case, and PSN definitely has it's fair share of foul mouthed teens.

I remember back in the early days of Home there was a lot of verbal abuse before the public mics were turned off.There is still plenty of immature and annoying behavior in Home, but at least it's no longer verbal.

I think PSN is overall more mature, but it's unfortunately true that idiocy and immaturity are not a function of age or wealth.

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godsman
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:16:33 PM

Yea I noticed that there were lots of fathers with their kids watching them play.

I don't mind foul language as long as they aren't spoken by nagging kids.

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godsman
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:08:01 PM
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I don't know about before, I never played a 360. But I noticed an increase in kids on PSN. Once on Uncharted 2 multiplayer, there's a kid that did nothing buy sang an annoying song in the background. Thank god for mute!

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dachemists
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:20:40 PM

amen!, i was playing MW2 and this kid just kept singing (the fresh prince of bel air intro) and everyone was yelling at him "STFU" "FU" etc etc etc, i muted him and everyone else still kept yelling back at the kid, then i started yelling "mute, mute, mute", everyone eventually did, sometimes anger overrides common sense

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BTNwarrior
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:08:07 PM
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well so far the experience has been great, but I have never used live so I have no right to compaire.

However I have noticed an increasing number of people on mag who complain that they are not squad leader and then try to kick squad leader so they can be it.

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BlackBriar
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:08:53 PM
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Xbox live is full of Dane Cooks Loud,annoying and un funny.

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regular14
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:14:42 PM
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I think if you're playing MW2, you have to remember your playing the most popular online game ever. And yes half those kids are 13 and are asshole. I've found that the crowd on Bad Company 2, the underrated successor of MW2, is a far better online experience. Also, i've stopped turning on my headset when playing online unless with friends. But really, if you're sick of the mw2 crowd, move on to Bad Company. You'll like it.

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Zemus101
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:19:09 PM
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I've played a lot of Battlefield BC2 since it released last month and I've added probably about 6 people to my friendslist that ended up in my squad. Everyone I've played with in my squad (the ones I can actually talk to) have been very mature and players just like me. Now a chunk of us are looking forward to getting together in Red Dead Redemption to form a kickass posse. Good stuff. Never had a bad experience online as of yet, even on games like LBP. "Everyone" has been mature and I'm guessing in their 20's at least (if that really makes a difference nowadays on how mature someone is)

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Scarecrow
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:27:55 PM
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You can KILL people in Demon's Souls (very hard game, specially for beginners)

Yet, most of the time you rarely, if ever get a message from them cursing you out.

In fact, they don't send messages at all.


^This situation alone says a lot for me
if in a game like Demon's Souls they stay as mature as can be then that says it all to me.

Though, there are a lot of idiots on both (can't be avoided)

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Alienange
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:32:17 PM
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I'll be damned if I wasn't online with a thirteen year old tonight playing MW2. This kid was more mature than some adults on the PSN. Whether or not Live has this type of mature youngsters on their service is something I'll never pay to find out.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:06:13 PM

MW2...


::giggle::

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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:06:42 AM

I would have a snarky remark about rich kids, but ps3 is only 299 now

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Deleted User
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:33:47 PM
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don't really have a comparative view since I've never played on live. I run into a lot of idiots on UC2, but maybe that's just bad luck or par for the course.

of course I call anyone who does the humping taunt after killing someone an idiot, and that's like 30% of the people I've seen online.

I do however note that I've heard tons of complaints about people sending foul messages to others on live, it sounds like an epidemic. and on the Network the only messages I've ever received from people online were things like "good game!" so that's saying something

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BigT_1980
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:34:12 AM

Uncharted is hit or miss when I go online. Most of the time the people act pretty mature. Now a really bad game for immaturity from my experience the first MW. I could imagine that MW 2 would be worse since it sold more copies. One resolution to most of immaturity issues could be resolved if parents would just do there job and learn and follow the ESRB ratings system.

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The Stig
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 5:04:58 AM

@ BigT_1980, Unfortunatley the ESRB ratings are just a guide and not law.

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Kai200X
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:40:55 PM
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I dont have xbox but I'm gonna say without a doubt :P

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whiskeytango74
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:42:17 PM
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well i have never played on live but i do alot on the network mainly mw2 and i hate to say it but about 80% of the time i just mute everyone because most are a bunch of a**holes that talk nothing but sh** or do stuff to be di**s.

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frylock25
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:45:46 PM
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yes i would say so. i very rarely encounter anyone that doesnt seem to be at least 20. not that age means maturity but i dont encounter many children. most the time people are pretty pleasent to play with.

half of my friends list is people i know in real life that have ps3's and the other half are people i have met in games online.

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xnonsuchx
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:49:24 PM
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Of course, isn't the avg PS3 owner about 10 years older than the avg 360 owner? Again, not that older automatically means more mature, but at least generally more?

I can definitely say that all the 'brats' on XBL is the biggest complaint from people I know w/ 360's (yes, bigger than having gone throught 2 RRoDs for a few of them!).

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SmokeyPSD
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:55:12 PM
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I personally think microsoft breeds this type of player, with the games it offers, it's public statements, hubris, the whole package.

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Jed
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 10:55:25 PM
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I used to spend a lot of time playing Halo 3 online and while it was funny at first, the constant bitching and screaming just became unbearable. It got to the point where I could tell just by the sound of someone's voice that they were going to be assholes. I think the fact that every 360 comes with a mic is part of the problem. They see the mic when they open it up and figure that they HAVE to be heard.

Of course, I was playing Resistance 2 co-op last night and nobody else had a mic. I also got really pissed off when everybody that was a spec ops or medic thought they were a soldier.

In my experience, people on the PSN are mostly well mannered. Live is like a half way house for juvenile offenders.

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spiderboi
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:06:17 PM
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Can't say. I've had my share of stupid 13-year-olds in PSN while i haven't played Live yet, so i can't give a fair statement on which is more mature. But for what i've experienced in PSN, about 85% of my multiplayer time has been a good non-bratty experience (but heck, not 100% of the time i played everyone had mics hehe)

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dachemists
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:25:23 PM
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from what i hear, (read), i get sick and tired of these tantrums these kids throw on the PSN, my head would explode if i actually paid to play online

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AStiffyIffy
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:31:03 PM
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When I played MW online with my XBOX, I occasionally ran into people that would put me down because I wasn't as good as them. There are a lot of immature people there. BUT, on Playstation Home, that's a whole different story. You wanna see immature? There's the place you need to go. I guess that's how little horndogs get their fix. From virtual girls. Disgusting.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:04:22 AM

All right. But if Home was on Live...

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Jawknee
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:26:27 AM

I've never encountered any problem people on Home.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:42:26 AM

Really Jawk? I suggest you make yourself look like a girl and spend 10minutes in Home.

I enjoy playing chess at the mall, other than that it's a hunting ground.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:40:51 AM

I guess now that you mention it i do notice people surround the girls a lot, i never paid any attention to what they would talk about. I also don't spend a whole lot of time on Home anyway so i suppose i could miss a lot of the bad behavior.

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AStiffyIffy
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:11:42 PM

If Home was on Live then it would be a lot worse.

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grayfox2k8
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 11:42:28 PM
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I ran into a few while playing Metal Gear Online. T-bagging etc. But, that is about it.

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orangpelupa
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:16:37 AM
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hmm for me its differ from region to region.
usually if i connect using US account, many child.
if using singpore account. never met child.

its on xbox btw.

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Charger7302
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:53:03 AM
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The psn nowahdays isn't the same, in terms of the foul-mouthed kids. The recent price cut sure opened the flood gates for a whole lot of ugly. Uncharted 2's online really does suffer from the constant verbal abuse, and I know it's not just me because I remember thesixthaxis.com reporting on this.

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rogers71
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:59:03 AM
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I was at a friends house playing Uno on XBOX Live the other night. He was in a game and there was a guy with a cam waving his "stuff" on camera. He was practically pleasuring himself. I couldn't believe it.

My online experience is quite limited on PSN. I just don't see what the fuss is with MP games. When I first bought my PS3 back in 2007, I went online and found it to be extremely layed back with few rude or vulgar comments. Then came the Update that added the voice changer. Since that time, I have not played one game online that didn't have someone with their voice either at the low or high end of the spectrum spouting racial slurs and profanity.

I would be extremely happy if companies would spend all their resources on a gripping SP game and drop the MP altogether. IMO, the MP fad is sapping all the imagination and creativity out of society and leaving everyone braindead drones that love to use the term 'teabag'.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:26:57 AM

Your first sentence makes me want to get a 360, pronto.

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SmokeyPSD
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:56:02 AM

we can get uno on psn also though

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Banky A
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 9:19:02 AM

Haha.. well I still thumbed you both up.
+2!

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 7:48:16 PM

That's why I love God of War 3, Uncharted 2's single player, MGS4, and all the single player games.

Only time I go online is on Live with a few friends for a round of Borderlands or Halo. Private chat only.

I've never EVER gone on a public multiplayer server. Multiplayer games bore me to tears, the people there are so foul-mouthed, and it's mostly in shooters that you find this kind of behaviour!!!

Actually, that would make a good psychology study at uni. Do shooters bring out the worst behaviour in people when playing online?

I've only played the single player campaigns on MW2, never gone online (even tho I have it on PS3, not XXXbox 3-fix-me) and I haven't touched it since I got it last year. The Prestige Edition was a total waste of money, I continue to kick myself for blowing my money on that crap.

The good ol' days of playing with friends in your living room and great single player games are starting to disappear IMO. They're not gone yet, but I will certainly miss them when they do go.

A curse on MW2, Activision and Microsoft for bring out the worst in people. As Jack Johnson once sang...

"Where'd all the good people go?"

PSXextreme, from what I've been reading.

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sonic1899
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:37:35 AM
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The treatment girls get on XBL never ceases to amaze me. O_0

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phade2blaq
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:42:21 AM
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I actually think it's a toss up in terms of whether or not PSN has more mature users ! I've heard childish comments on both services so there's no clear winner in that department !

I've encountered many instances during in-game chats filled with racial slurs and sexist comments on the PSN !

Overall, I think the gaming industry has done a poor job implementing online activities and gaming ! There's so many cheaters online that it's a shame !

For the life of me I can't figure out why the same cheats that worked on PS2 online games carry over and work on PS3 games ! I've been hit by the disconnect cheat so many times on Madden 10, NBA 2K10 etc etc that I no longer play online anymore as much as I once did !

I think both the PSN and Live have their share of idiots, bigots, sexists, racists and CHEATERS etc etc etc !

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kraygen
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:57:46 AM
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makes perfect sense. Just goes back to the twitch gaming articles you've written before. New generation is all button mashing children, so they generally play online more than those of us who can enjoy a healthy Sp campaign.

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FM23
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:35:29 AM
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I only have a PS3 and I have ran into my fair share of immature idiots. I hear white people saying 'N*gga' in both a positive and negative way. I hear white people calling Mexicans 'beaners', etc. I mostly hear alot of racist remarks by white gamers. I am not being biased, but it mostly plays this way when I am online. But let me not forget about my ignorant people, blacks screaming annoying hip hop slang and saying N*gga left and right. Latino's do the same. If you ask me, the reason why alot of times PS3 owners don't hear trash talking on PSN is because people don't have head sets, but this goes for certain games. I have never experienced this with UC2 or Demon Souls (polite messages), but KZ2 is where my complaints come in. Idiots are everywhere and PSN is no different. Of course my opinion is subjective, but when you look at the big picture, alot of PS3 owners don't have head sets, so thats plays a big role as well. Lesser Headsets measn a the better online gaming experience for me. People don't know how to speak infromt of strangers. It's cool if the online game is between you and friends, but when you are playing with everyelse, formal manners need to come into play. Lets just say, alot of people online are bold, but in person, turn B*tch. This is just an opinion, no one take my comment to heart, this is just my personal experience and opinion on the matter. I don't think PSN is more mature, I just think true mature gamers don't care for headsets like myself unless they are taking a teambased game serious which I know nothing about, I am just stating the obvious. I just play and go on with my business. Online gaming is taken to seriously, what happened to having friends come over and play games. I'm just saying, what happen to split screen gaming. I can't even play 2 players in Midnight Club Los Angeles, thats foolish when I take into account that it is a racing game.

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XxNoir
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:43:30 AM
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I've never played Xbox live so i could only speak about my experience on PSN.While the games playable themselves are outstanding[uncharted 2,MGO,Warhawk ect] a lot of the ppl I've come across are immature jerks.

I remember when i jumped on uncharted 2's multiplayer-i would party up with a group of my friends and go into matchmaking.Apon coming across another party 90% of the time someone would make a rude or immature remark to provoke an argument.Then when someone died you would hear them being a sore loser and call you a "bitch or a fag" and all hell would break loose.

On MGO its a whole lot worse,you enter a game its very unlikely you'll leave before hearing "Get good nub".

So the answer is yes there are a hell of lot immature gamers on PSN.

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___________
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:49:34 AM
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it is?
i sure have not noticed it, especially with the MAG beta and the "that dingo stole my baby" pathetic remark!
real original!
not to mention all the pervs on home, and all the freaking chain mail i keep getting sent.
im actually really preying sony start charging for the PSN that way i wont have to connect my console and have all these pests sending me chain mail.

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SvenMD
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 7:53:34 AM

That line is classic...

Don't be bitter.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 7:54:23 PM

As an Aussie, you are not being original or funny by using that line. We've heard it so many times that disconnection from overseas servers and playing on Aussie servers are the only thing fun online anymore.

MAG sounds more and more tempting for online after reading all these comments. Sounds like the only Mature shooter out there.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:52:53 AM
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Well, I don't do MP on either system, so I can't say for sure.

But I've got to think that the 360 would have tons more whiny brats on it, only because...

1. The 360 had a year's head-start, so that's what the parents bought their little snot-sniffler's.

2. The 360 was also lot cheaper at the time, so that's another reason the 360 was what those parents bought their little rug-rats.

3. The 360 also came pre-packed with a mic, sooooo that's such a huge tantrum-screaming bonus for the naughty-chair crowd.

4. Too many moms(or dads) don't have the the proper parenting skills, or just don't care, so they bought the 360 as a live-in "Super-Nanny". But what they failed to realize, is that this nanny also needed it's own damned supervision.

5. This one relates back to number #4, the parent's let their kids to put the 360 in their own bedrooms(so they won't/don't even have to bother with their kids).
So now those little nostril picker's had free reign on the 360 till M$ might have banned a few of them for a day. And although I don't know exactly how the 1 day ban works, does anyone really think the lil booger's were going to rat themselves out to mom or dad??? Hell no, they just act like nothing happened & just found a totally different way to totally annoy the bejesus out of everyone else within 500 yards of them.


Now, on the PS3 side of things,

1. The PS3 was so much more expensive when it came out, so a lot less kids even had access to one.

2. And being more expensive, plus the PS3 could also do so much more as a full media hub than the 360, that I'm sure most parent's placed it where it would could be seen at all times, like the living room. And by it being in full view of everyone, there was less chance of smack-talk talk from the little juice-box juggler's.

3. Since there's no mic included with the PS3, most kid's thoughts aren't even on a mic, they're usually scheming on how to get more games.

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main_event05
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 4:10:52 AM

juice box jugglers?
classic

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rogers71
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 10:44:12 AM

"Juice-box jugglers"??

That sounds like it could be a foreigner song.

Biker, it sounds like you either have a running vocabulary of nicknames for immature children or you have an extreme dislike for the little ones. Keep in mind that alot (not all) of the racist and profane comments aren't always made by teens. Still, funny post though.

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Richy
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 3:30:47 AM
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hello ...

this is a LOL subject ... yeah!

i can't say anything about live, never experienced it :)

PSN is full of everything though, but depends what kind of games.

I've played a few games + demos online & had different experience on most

i remember playing fine the Bad Company 2 demos, didn't hear any cuss.
same applied to Crash Commando & i was surprised.
but the only time i didn't play Lost Planet 2 Co-op demo with one of my friends, i ran out into a buch of bad mouth banshees ... that was really hard!
the ModNation racer beta also was full of kids playing around & getting on my nerve.

now don't talk about PS HOME, this is a Kid's nest LOL.

cheers!

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 3:39:39 PM

@Rogers 71,
Yeah, I looked at that when I wrote It & Foreigner was the very 1st thing that popped up in my mind too, LOL

Nahhh, just using a some extra vocab for the lil skiddle munchers.
I don't dislike kids in general, only hate the super-spoiled or the untrained, always mis-behaving, bratasaurus's.

Anyways, I helped to raise my own 2 girls, plus I've got 2 pre-tween grand-kids now too. They were all raised the right way & I've never had a problem with them because they were taught respect, manners, and social skills. And that's something that's sorely lacking with some parents these days(and I'm using the term "parent's" loosely here.

But if all else fails with the dirt eaters, I hear that batter dipping & deep frying them,
makes them almost as enjoyable as chicken.
PS. Don't forget a splash or two of hot sauce too.

BTW, oh, I do know some adults are more immature than an embryo. LOL

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Alienange
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 3:38:50 AM
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The question might not be "Are PSN users more mature?" but rather, "Does the PS3 make gamers more mature?"

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main_event05
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 4:13:33 AM

War does tend to change a man.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 5:03:01 AM

But according to Old Snake, war has changed.

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Robochic
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 5:50:09 AM
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I have seen my friends play live and the things that fly outta people mouths are interesting and annoying. What I hate is listening to a underage kid playing a M rated game and screaming in the microphone.

I have played on PSN and I have never really had an issue, I have played uno, UC2 ect and the only issue I had was on UNO if I beat a male compontent they log off or kick me off thier games guess they dont' like a girl beating them. LOL

Reality is PSN users are an older crowd nothing at this moment really sways the underage kids to get one at this time plus most kids have an xbox so of course u're going to go with the console u're friends have.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:06:41 PM

Only time I had fun online was playing Guitar Hero 3.

I was beaten by a 14 Y.O. girl from the U.S. on expert. But she was really nice about, we exchanged a few messages saying "Good game", "Nice work", "Great song seleection" etc etc, and it almost restored my faith in Live.

Guys who kick girls off just cos they are beaten is a sign of insecurity, poor sportsmanship, they're really not worth the time.

It is a shame these kind of people exist. Haven't been taught proper social skills, that it's all about playing the game, not just winning, etc...

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 5:19:06 PM

"War never changes"

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www
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 6:01:38 AM
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I've heard people talk a whole lot of crap on LIVE maybe because I have the headset.

On the PS3 though I don't have a headset so I couldn't tell but that doesn't stop more a-holes from sending me all kinds of immature insults when I quit FIFA 10. Especially when a new FIFA comes out and you quit on your opponent, be sure to receive all kinds of disses since FIFA is usually a 1 on 1 affair, so in case you quit, your opponent just goes to the "friends met online", your name appears first and he sends you an ugly message, simple.

But with other games like MW2, Uncharted, LBP which iivolves a lot of players, you don't really get that.

And oh, there are still way more degenerates and nutjobs at our one and only PS Home ;)

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tlpn99
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 6:09:56 AM
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I play online on the PS3 as it's free so can't say about the 360 on Live.

You still get the odd idiot or 2 when playing MW2 online. On BC2 you don't. This could be when playing against a load of strangers in your 4 man squad sometimes you get on with people who just don't talk. That game needs you to be talking to your 3 other comrades in arms so you can say I need health/ammo etc.

I do find that less mature people aka kids are on MW2 though for some reason.

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LittleBigMidget
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 7:03:43 AM
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I dunno about this, in LBP, I got the chance to work with one of the best creators in the game. After a few days when we published the level, A kid messaged me like 40 times praising me for the level and stuff. So I told him "Sorry, I don't accept random requests" He messages me back saying he'll commit suicide if I don't add him. So I added him to my block list.

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JackC8
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 7:10:01 AM
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I've played online twice. Once was the Uncharted 2 demo, and there were a couple of guys who couldn't say a single sentence without using the "n" word. The other was Need For Speed Shift, and the only method of passing used by the players was to ram you from behind and knock you off the track. I was passing one guy, which required me to move to the left side of the track. Apparently this really p***ed off the guy behind me, as once he got past me, he slammed on the brakes and rammed me off the track.

Sigh...people enjoy this s***? No thanks, not for me. Not in a million years.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 7:33:00 AM
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I don't have a problem with people mucking around online, the perverts on Home are creepy though.

I don't take online gaming very seriously, on MGO, i would usually run around in the box or put magazines everywhere. i much preffer games where people are more chilled than when the only objective is a headshot. If i encounter someone taking it too seriously - and by that i mean shouting at his team, i will team kill him without sympathy.

I've noticed that Resistance 2 online is quite a solid experience, i've very rarely encountered someone really annoying.

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little dreamer
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:34:09 AM
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here is an article similar to what we are discussing http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10400948-1.html

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Superman915
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:38:46 AM
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never had a problem on PSN honestly. In fact, there are some really sweet, polite girls playing RE5 pretty often.

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Deathstriker
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:56:38 AM
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I've had my PS3 since day of release and have been online since Resistance...I just bought a 360 a few months ago...and already I can tell you on the average every 1:15 PS3 user is childish, while the average on xbox is 1:4

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Deleted User
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 5:06:43 PM

That's so scientific...

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Banky A
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 9:24:01 AM
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/Off-Top/ Haha that pic reminds me of old Qubex ;D

There are an amazing amount of videos on YouTube that have recorded kids and other trash talking/swearing/being gay (using the term loosely, tehe) on Xbox Live.

I've HARDLY seen ANY videos of that type for PSN.. - and honestly I think I may have only seen one, or a couple.

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Banky A
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 9:27:40 AM

It's still amazing on what you can still find and hear on Halo 3 today. It also depends on the game, GTAIV will always have a bollock load of racist gaming gangsters. And I'm not stereotyping but most of the guys I encounter on it sound black (and are black). I'm pretty black.. so don't hayyyt.

(:

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JBLAZE
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 10:10:16 AM
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well i have not played xbox live but i have played modern warfare 2 and i sold the game after two weeks guys would not stop talking crap, but i guess thats why i love bad company i never had that type of problem.

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nogoat23
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 10:17:56 AM
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The only game I played online regularly was Burnout Paradise, and it was kinda annoying when people would just crash into you instead of helping out with the co-op challenges, but mostly people were cordial.

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 10:43:10 AM
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My only experience playing online is with Uncharted 2. I am afraid that even the PS3 is littered with foul mouthed imbeciles. I don't recall running into any young ones, just teens, 20 or 30 year olds cussing up a storm. It is sad really. I am afraid it is only going to get worse, since the PS3 price drop, and the free online. Through the anonymity of the internet, it seems to give people a sense of courage to be moronic douche bags.
And then of course the screen names have to be obscene in some sort of way. Some are pretty clever, and then some you just shake your head at.
I just love how courageous these idiots are to bad mouth people when there is no way they will ever have to confront the people they berate. The internet makes them all tough guys.

Oh, and those guys playing chess in Home, I bet they are the worst! =)~.....

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Deleted User
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 5:05:32 PM

Well put!

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:22:33 PM
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They are both full of idiots. Bottome line.

However, the PSN to me, seems to have less of the 13-20 set running around.

In my book, that's a good thing.

Some of these children's parents need to learn a thing or two about teaching their kids respect!!

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nath08
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:26:21 PM
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Yes, basically. Almost everyone on the XBOX, in my experiance are abselout pricks (excuse my french :D) Almost every time I go onto my XBOX 360, theres somebody trying to start an argument with me for no reason at all. The worst part is, is that most of them are atleast 30.

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MadKatBebop
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:28:06 PM

That happens to me all the time to man! I get called terrible racial names, sometimes even my teammates will kill me on purpose and laugh about over their mikes and never apologize.

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jimdude99
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:48:59 PM
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Xbox is just fill of dumb kids. They are what you call "Xbots"

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Zorigo
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:49:12 PM
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well, i haven't found many di**s online. a few that ive had arguements with, and a few racists who have BNP as their clan tag (who i do my best to hunt down and own) but its been mostly good. i mean a few guys have headsets that bug me, but not seriously. i mean, i think their belends, but i dont that much of a damn. the ones that irritate me are racists, children, idiots who play music. sh*t music.

i have a friend who has arguements with anyone who has a headset.

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LightShow
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 1:59:22 PM
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For the most part ps3 owners forked over for their machines. Ten year olds can't drop 300 for a console, and neither can their friends so why would they want to?

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thj_1980
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 2:41:53 PM
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That's a hard to predict because psn is free but xbl is not but has more console sold and more idiots on it so they have to have more.
Only because they have more idiots and idiots don;t think only do!!!!

go out buy xbl and make an account than rrod dammit got to go buy a new 360 and a new xbl card too!!!

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SirLoin of Beef
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 4:02:20 PM
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While it is true (in my opinion) that the atmosphere is more mature, for the most part, on the PSN, I'd say a lot of that has to do with what Ben brought up and that is, the price of the systems. Up until recently, the Xbox was the better deal, even with paying for a year of XBL. Now that the two systems are close to the same price and PSN is free, I would bet the number of immature players will being to rise on PSN.

I doesn't matter to me because on XBL I usually stick to friends or, if I have to play the game with others, I don't use voice coms as I can't stomach much of the idiocy people love to spout online.

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Shadow_Ninja
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 4:27:37 PM
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90% of my gaming is contributed to online. and let me say their will be immature gamers wherever you go. but psn seems to be moderate. most people seem to be mature except when they lose, then thats when they really get mad and start talking out of their a**. once they start to get annoying i just mute them. simple as that.

i play call of duty by the way.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:44:22 PM

Is this paying homage to my car, or do you just really like the company? ;)

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carl0975
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 5:07:22 PM
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I was playing mag a couple weeks ago and we had a squad leader who obviously didn't know how to frago, and because of that our squad was disorganized and we were losing badly, so I sent him a message over psn on how to frago, and 5 minutes later when he still hadn't done it I started a VTK, then after the game he decided to send a reply to my message and instead of a simple "sorry" or "I didn't know that", he called me a f*g.

Long story short, Immaturity is everywhere, that's why most games come with an option to turn off VoIP audio.

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Imagi
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 5:45:32 PM
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In my experience Yes, I can clearly see a difference when I play on Live to PSN. I feel the fact that the 360 comes with a mic has something to do with is as does the higher price of the PS3.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 4:26:06 PM

This has been one of my biggest points when it comes to this. Thank you for saying it.

Simple. 360 comes with mic. PS3 does not come with Bluetooth.

If lost/broken, 360 mic costs a lot less to replace. If lost/broken/don't have one, Bluetooth is much more expensive to buy.

I think I come across 10 people a week on the PS3 who actually have a Bluetooth and use it. Some are annoying and some are not. On the 360, a lot more people talk because they can and it is a lot easier/more comfortable to wear that thing than some of the Blue"tooths". Some are annoying and some are not. (Also, because you have party chat, you exclude yourself from having to hear the garbage you don't want to hear by inviting your party only. Simple and effective.)

I do not think that the users are more mature on the PS3 than on the 360. What a crock.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, April 15, 2010 @ 12:50:47 AM

A "crock" is not being able to understand the concept of ratios. What the hell difference does it make how many people have headsets? If the ratio of idiots/non-idiots was the same, we'd hear the same difference on each platform. Doesn't matter if there are 10 headsets or 10,000,000 headsets.

And I've warned you before to stop with your obvious sh**. Don't do it again. Last chance.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Thursday, April 15, 2010 @ 9:12:15 AM

But Ben, that's where you're wrong.

Let's say there were only 100 players with headsets on the PS3 and there were 1,000 on 360. Just because you hear fewer idiots on the PSN does not mean there are fewer. This is where the whole "there are a lot more headsets available to the folks on 360" argument comes into play. It SEEMS like there are more because there are generally more people talking. It's a skewed gripe that I think is ridiculous and for that, I'm "warned"? lol

Really, I think you need to relax. I'm sorry that my opinion insulted you so much. I'm sorry that I don't fall all over myself to heap tons and tons of praise onto you for every little comment/review you post like everyone else. You say this is a fair website. Act like it. Or don't. I really don't care.

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DeathOfChaos
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 7:22:53 PM
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I've seen my GF play online on the XBox, and every time she let people know she was a girl, they say she sucks and she should quit. Then she beats them, they complain, and some even quit the game because she won and proved them that a girl can beat her. She plays online with Uncharted 2 and RE5 and she actually gets complimented on a kill. There was one douche, though, on Uncharted 2 that got pissed and left, and that was the only guy.

Also, for a something about the PS3; most immaturity is on Home. I was online with my gf on Home, talking to her, and some guy comes up and hits on her while I'm talking to her. Someone has asked my another one of my friends if they wanted her to see their...yeah...and even one guy took pictures of my gf and said he was going to beat off to them. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's bad...

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Deleted User
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 4:45:01 PM

There is trash everywhere. It's not limited to one console.

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Douchebaguette
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:18:28 PM
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Do you even need to ask such a question?

Today whilst playing Uncharted 2 online I heard a couple of kids...only they weren't insulting, nor were they being annoying. They were simply communicating for the sake of teamwork. Wasn't much the same back in my 360 days.

Even so, the main reason is obviously because there's less encounters with headset wearers and therefore it's a chain of feeling lame if you were to talk nonsense online to practically nobody. Though as the PS3's popularity rises, I expect to hear more mics, hence more abuse. Thank God for Skype.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 8:19:21 PM
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I don't go online that much but I've never had a problem on PSN. I never had any problems on XBL, either, but I didn't like playing Gears Of War with somebody whose voice had not yet broken.

PS Home, on the other hand...well, let's just say I'm not the age group they are looking for. Haven't been there at all this year.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 4:47:58 PM
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I can't understand why this was even brought up. Idiots are on all consoles. There is no way to tell if there are more on Live than there are on the Network. Let's talk about something that is of importance.

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RebelJD
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 8:00:53 PM
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From my experience with the 360, it depends on the type of game you are playing online. I had a fun experience when playing Burnout (not the whack sandbox one) and Crackdown. When it came to Halo and Call of Duty it was infested with gamers who just annoy the heck out of you.

Here in America we have way too much racism and ignorance going around to feed the poor and bring back the economy up to par. It shows in online gaming, it shows in social blogs, bulletin comments, etc. you name it.

When I played Uncharted 2 online I came across hmmm 1 or 2 players that were annoying..but truthfully they weren't as bad as Live players.

I don't think it has to do with age, I more so believe it has to do with America and how people have grown to live behind a screen to do their "trash talking".

I, like the author of this post, do my gaming mainly on "single player campaign".

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furbiesmustdie
Thursday, April 15, 2010 @ 8:36:26 AM
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You left out homophobic and yes, in general XBLA users are a lot more abusive than PSN users.

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Deleted User
Thursday, April 15, 2010 @ 8:20:47 PM
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Fact is, if you play online you will run into idiots eventually, that goes for both consoles. For the people saying that XBOX Live has more trash talk and more kids on there, it probably seems like that because the majority of 360 owners have mics. There have been games where I would have a great conversation with people on NHL 10, kz2, gears, and other times you have some kids in there and you have to take off your mic and/or quit the game.

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