Sony Boss Comments On PlayStation Move Competition

This fall, there will be a three-horse race for supremacy in the motion-sensing realm, and SCE Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has commented on the competition.

Obviously, there will be no topping the Wii in terms of sheer popularity (i.e., sales), but in terms of potential and the best technology, that will be a battle between PlayStation Move and Microsoft's Natal for the Xbox 360. The latter doesn't use a controller - which is intriguing, to say the least - while the Move appears similar to the Wii setup, only it's definitely more advanced. Yoshida showed off Move at GDC last month and in speaking to Edge Magazine about the Wii's MotionPlus system and Natal, he said:

"Well, we don't know about Natal yet, so all we can say from watching in a general sense how it plays is that we've been familiar with the controller-less system since the days of the EyeToy. That's very accessible, so a two-year-old to an 80-year-old lady can play games. But we also know the limitations of making games without a controller. So I'm very curious as to how Microsoft will solve that issue.

Compared to Wii and Wii MotionPlus, the biggest advantage is precision, not only movement but 3D spatial recognition and orientation. We can incorporate very subtle movement into games...that's not possible with the Wii system."

Sony delayed the launch of Move to ensure that we'd have plenty of compatible titles available. It may be on store shelves at about the same time as Natal this fall, which is when the motion-sensing war will hit its stride. Both pieces of technology could be interesting to experiment with, but which will eventually come out on top?

4/23/2010 9:19:20 PM John Shepard

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Cpt_Geez
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 10:06:50 PM
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I'm going to end up getting both the playstation move and natal. I think the playstation move will come out on top in the end.

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Snaaaake
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 10:39:01 PM
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I'll wait at least 1 year before I get Move, somehow I feel that the price isn't going to be pretty.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 10:54:43 PM

yeah, if I like it at all I will wait quite some time.

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godsman
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 10:58:21 PM

Yea I know... The fact they keep saying the bundle will be under $100, probably means $99.99. Which is still worth it, because each individual item probably be sold $30-40 separately.

I really like the fact that Sony incorporated the gamers that owns the PSeye into the motion control system. It was thoughtful and really encourages the people that owns one to try the Move. "Hey you own a camera already, why not go all the way?"

As for Natal, I still have hard time imagining any hardcore games coming out of it, even the potential casual games are ridiculous. It was constantly compared with the Ipod touch, but for the TV. People buy the Ipod touch to listen to music, not play games. There's not a single game that can sell an ipod touch. As I don't think any single game will sell the Natal.

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Jian2069
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:34:55 AM

@godsman
Actually half the reason I chose to get an iPod Touch was for the games. Especially the fact that I can 'acquire' every single one of those games without paying a cent.
life is grand.

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main_event05
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:40:51 AM

Metal Gear Touch.
'Nuff said

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 10:54:20 PM
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My money is on move, not because it is Sony, but because it is more versatile for various types of titles. And, well, not many people want to play a racing game with a pie plate.

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godsman
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:07:57 PM

I was in love with the Wii controller with the shooters for Metroid. It was disappointing that they don't have anything but rail shooters and the poor graphics is irritating. THAT is why I want the Move. It's the Wii that I always wanted, but done right.

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main_event05
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:42:16 AM

i sorta kinda like rail shooters.

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Qubex
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 3:16:22 PM

LoL World... "...pie plate"

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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BikerSaint
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 10:35:32 PM

main_event05,
Damn, you're saying there's a Metal Gear Touch on the Ipod?

Oh hell, I guess that's another device I've got to get now for my gaming collections

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Bugzbunny109
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 10:54:42 PM
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Who wants to bet Natal will be outdated soon?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 10:54:57 PM

You mean it isn't already?

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Snaaaake
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:04:08 PM

Maybe not, Microsoft is advertising it as if Natal is the first of it's kind, to the most of the world it is.

They're using that ignorance to sell Natal.

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chedison
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:10:00 PM

Don't they use ignorance to sell a lot of their merchandise?

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Bugzbunny109
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:34:13 PM

Yeah, but nowadays we prefer to use the term bullsh*t.

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Zorigo
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 7:33:18 AM

Ignorance is what sells Xboxs in the UK. that and some good games. i would buy an xbox if i had the cash, i mean just for Gears and Forza and the exclusives but im happy with my ps3 firstly.
i barely ever see ps3 ads here...

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VicTheMighty
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 2:45:06 PM

Lol sry to say but ignorance is what sells the Wii too XD XD.

The majority of consumers I meet don't know about the competition or what it can do. Then I explain the 360 and PS3 and they generally dump the Wii for a Ps3.

They come in like: Hey I heard the Wii is awesome! And you can move your controllers... Seriously... Then I just show him Mario game play vs uncharted 2 and tell him he can browse the web and listen to Blue Ray on a PS3... And how his wii will look like xtrem crap on his HDTV... And now when I add the info on the move coming this fall they practically spit on the Wii. Like: What for 90$ more I get all that? (Wii 210... PS3 300).

Sony doesn't do enough advertising in Canada. That is what is stopping them from taking the top here. If people weren't ignorant, 90% of em would get a PS3. Only Halo and Gears fan would go for a 360 and same for Wii and Mario Zelda fans.

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Qubex
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 3:20:15 PM

Whilst on vacation in New Zealand recently i saw many Nintendo DSi XL ads on TV, but no Sony Playstation or Playstation portable adverts...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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spiderboi
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 10:28:22 AM

In our country, piracy sells 360s. That's why Im on the legit PS3 wagon.

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wiiplay
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 9:34:14 PM

@VicTheMighty:
Sony doesn't do enough advertising?
I see a PS3 advertisement everyday here.
The God Of War 3 ad is the last one I saw. I saw it at about 5:30 PM today.
Now, to get back on topic. I personally do not see myself buying either Natal or Move. Well, maybe Natal, but not for gaming, for collecting.

PlayStation Move is in my opinion a waste of my money. If I want to move my hands around like a lunatic I can dust off my Wii and use it.
I understand it isn't as high tech as the Move will be, but if I want to simply move my arms in front of my TV, I can play Wii Tennis.
Besides, I want to be able to head-shot someone by moving my thumb, not my arm.

I also don't want to see all the mini games from the Wii hopping on over to the PS3, even if it will fit on one Blu-ray disc.

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BikerSaint
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:26:04 PM
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Don't they use ignorance to sell "ALL" their merchandise?

I'm voting for the Move, there's just so much more you should be able to do with it.

But "Chester the molester" is voting for Pre-Natal Milo, and one guess the only thing he want's to do with it.

Last edited by BikerSaint on 4/23/2010 11:26:54 PM

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LegendaryWolfeh
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:52:59 PM

I lol'd, but also because we had a sub teacher at our school we called that... haha

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Vitron
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 9:09:41 AM

Hey guys lets be reasonable here we don't know yet which one will be better--I vote for "move"

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SayWord
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:36:32 PM
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I will get move eventually, as I am not a big fan of motion controls. But count me out of natal, a game is not a game without a controller.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 23, 2010 @ 11:46:58 PM
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I can't wait. I love the controls in Metroid Prime 3. If Sony can make it better for something like Killzone 2, I will be a happy gamer. :)

Last edited by Jawknee on 4/23/2010 11:47:14 PM

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bigrailer19
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:11:20 AM
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I think Natal is great just like i thought eye toy was great! Needless to say its basically the same thing from a user point of view!

I also like the motion controls on the wii, and i guarantee with the tech put into move ill thoroughly enjoy "move". Im pretty excited!

Personally depending on price I think more people will have Natal. The console is cheaper and for the consumers who have the wii, will probably want something different than motion controls. Sony is asking for an audience thats already out there to try their product that is similiar but far more advanced, so it might be tough to get some new people over to the PS side. But and the big but is Sony "move" is going to be the better gaming device. It will work better technically, and there will be far more games people want to play possibly AAA titles like KZ series, and others that will support it. I dont see the people with Natal playing Halo.

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NeoHumpty
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:46:20 AM

The control you got with the eyetoy alone sucked. Guessing that the two cameras on natal will make it work a bit better, but I have my doubts that it will be that much greater.

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CH1N00K
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:19:40 AM
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I've already got a PSEye from the Eye of Judgment bundle so if they bundle a Move in with Socom 4, I may pick on up...other than that, I won't go out of my way to get one unless the games are top notch.

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CH1N00K
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 9:40:52 PM

Yeah that would be cool, if you're weak competition, that means that you'll only win by a little instead of trouncing me..lol. I like playing the game, but I never said I was any good at it. I'd definitely be up for trying a couple rounds sometime.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:44:59 AM
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Ch1nook,
That's how I got my PSeye too.

I was looking around for a used eye but GS didn't have any, and I just happened to be Toys R Us browsing the gaming racks late last year when I saw that EOJ bundle on their clearance rack for $19.95.

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CH1N00K
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 9:55:36 AM

Do you ever play it? I've got a few decks built but I can never find anyone online to play, and now I can't find the cards. I bought this game when it first came out because I used to play Magic, and I thought that this was a cool idea...but then Sony dropped the ball with this game and didn't support it.

I know you can download the decks, but they never seem to work quite right. The lighting is very particular about how it reads the cards.

Last edited by CH1N00K on 4/24/2010 9:56:29 AM

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Fane1024
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 5:39:02 PM

CH1N00K,

I also have EoJ, though I've barely played it. If you don't mind weak competition, I'll play you some time.

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CH1N00K
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 9:43:28 PM

oops replied at the wrong spot...go up to my last post..lol

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kraygen
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:05:43 AM
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I can't wait for the move, for some simple stuff like bowling and pool, but mostly for some rpgs. Want me some move sword and shield action.

As for natal, I've seen that in arcades for years, those shooters with motion sensing bars that would make your character duck when you did. Natal was old before it was announced last year.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 7:55:39 PM

CH1N00K,
Nahhh, the game never interested me & I promptly put it on the shelf for my collection.

I only bought it because the PSEye was included, that & the fact the whole bundle was $30 cheaper than buying the Eye itself as a stand alone.

(another bonus is it also has that cool Eye stand too).

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fooosie
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:15:43 AM
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NATAL will quickly become casual game material, turning the xbox into a hi-def Wii without a controller. It seems like microsoft took motion sensing technology and made it gimmicky all over again by eliminating the hardware. It will look different but will be the same.
MOVE has taken a now proven concept and made it next generation. Gone from gasoline to hydrogen. From halogen to High Intensity Discharge. It will be true precise motion gaming. High-def motion gaming, if you will. True High-def motion gaming paired with the only true high-def gaming console.
I look forward to witnessing this next cold groinslap of reality to the 360 fanboys as they try to pretend that kicking a red ball is more fun that what they did on their friends playstation

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Jian2069
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:33:11 AM
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"That's very accessible, so a two-year-old to an 80-year-old lady can play games."

hahahahahaha, owned.

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Imagi
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 5:46:01 AM
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The games will decide who is on top, but the Move has a whole lot more versatility and a very important component, buttons! I think we will see much more actual games produced for it from both first and third party studios, I'm looking forward to it.

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RadioHeader
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:14:12 AM
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Natal is lousy and outdated but so is the 360. So they'll simply sell it for about 25% of the competition's price and advertise ten times as much.

...Here in the UK you can get a 360 for £65 Vs £250 for a PS3. If that's not admitting defeat, I don't know what is.

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Zorigo
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:34:05 AM

problem is, sony dont advertise enough in the UK why the ps3 is better to go with. People just think, oh its cheap, they're the same fuckin thing, so lets get an Xbox.

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Vitron
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 9:51:40 AM

Its a sad thing

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Zorigo
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:33:00 AM
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I like how they are saying, "MS has a problem, let me see how they resolve it" which is not just slagging them off but saying, they could be good, but they've hit a snag.
Tactfull.
MS would probably start getting b*tchy

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slimey
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 7:35:25 AM
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there aren't many better gaming experiences than Resident 4 on Wii. If Move improve on that, then it will be top-notch

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___________
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:07:33 AM
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im moving more towards natal at the moment, only because there are more things you can do with it.
sports, fighting games and such im asuming will be better on natal because you can use your legs, arms, whole body where as with move you can only use your arms.
for shooters move will probably be better, but for everything else natal will probably be the way to go.

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Alienange
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:09:13 AM
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Let me see. Natal needs a dedicated power supply. Natal has mechanized tilt. Natal will need all kinds of software for the voice/face/motion recognition. Natal is sounding like a very, VERY expensive gadget for your 360.

I think the Wii got it right when it included the gadget with its system. Trying to sell motion controls for a hundred bux on top of the price of a high def system is foolish. It'll be the tortoise vs the tortoise vs the hare if you ask me.

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bridgera
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 3:25:33 PM

I agree, I also think the motion control market already became fairly saturated by the Wii.

I might get the Move because I think it'll be fun, but if it (or Natal) aren't stellar in sales I can't say I'll be surprised.

I also won't be too suprised if games aren't implementing that hardware much 2 years from now. These both seem like gimmicks, but the Move seems like a better product than the Wii and Natal.

Last edited by bridgera on 4/24/2010 3:26:59 PM

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Robochic
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:16:49 AM
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I think Natal is creepy with Milo, i have 2 kids and I hate when they stare at me to begin with to have a virtual kid in my living room would be just strange and creepy. I just wait for his head to turn all the way around and come out of the tv. NO THANK YOU.

If move is really that good I bet it would replace my Wii which is collecting dust :(

I need a new Zelda.

I would like to see how M$ addresses the Natal since it has no controller just cause the eyetoy was like that and it didn't have much games at all.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 5:30:59 PM

I need a new Zelda too. Here's hoping we see one before the end of the year.

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JPBooch
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 10:09:58 AM
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What remains to be seen:

Does Move offer a competitive edge for gamers playing with it over a standard controller.

That difference could mean a cash cow vs a novelity for Sony.

If the move offers a gamer the precision of a mouse or better, they are going MOVE the Move very well. ;)

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bridgera
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 3:21:57 PM
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Still have one question about Natal that no one has given me an answer to.

Let's take Devil May Cry 4, at one point you have to double jump in mid air, then extend Nero's arm to get an item in a really hard position.

HOW DO YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH NATAL?

Video game characters can double jump in mid air.... humans can't unless they have a button.

For that reason alone, I think the Move will be a better product, also since it has a glowy ball, that solves TONS of lighting issues that Natal still has.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 5:30:25 PM

I assume you have to learn how to double jump. :)

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spiderboi
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 11:10:42 AM

how can you not know how to double-jump? for shame.... :p

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BikerSaint
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 10:44:25 PM
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bridgera,

You'll have to either, "Mo-Cap" it....or buy yourself a part-time stunt double!

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bridgera
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 10:48:29 PM

What does "Mo-Cap" mean?

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___________
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 8:39:17 AM

motion capture.
its where you wear a suit with all these lights on it to create a character.
google has some really cool vids on it for heavy rain.

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Robochic
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 8:51:00 AM
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@Jawknee I know we can only hope and pray.Really Zelda is the only thing I like to play on the Wii, kids are bored with it my 5 year old would rather play on the PS2 half the time and my daughter is not old enough to use either console.

she has been trying to play the starcraft beta with Daddy, it was so cute she some how clicked on the icon for it updated the beta and then I come in to screaming cause she doesn't know daddy's password LOL!

Last edited by Robochic on 4/25/2010 8:51:34 AM

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