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First 3D Games Forced To Scale Back Visual Resolution

When brand new technology arrives, it's rarely in tip-top shape. So does it come as any surprise that the first 3D PlayStation 3 games might not be as graphically brilliant as they're supposed to be?

There's an interesting article that talks about the making of 3D for the PS3, and we learn that early 3D efforts will have to be scaled back in terms of resolution. For instance, Wipeout HD has always been displayed in gorgeous full 1080p HD but in order to achieve the 3D perspective, it has to be scaled back to 720p. Therefore, it might be safe to assume that games that normally run at 720p will go below high-definition resolution when they implement 3D. MotorStorm is an example of that. However, there's one very important thing to remember, here: the titles they speak of are being "retrofitted" to run in 3D and they're also the very first games to receive this treatment. Hence, in regards to brand new titles specifically designed to support 3D, we shouldn't have to worry about suffering visuals. But here's my question: it's freakin' 3D...will it be easier or harder to spot the visual discrepancy between 1080p and 720p? I really have no idea how your eyes would record the information...

But anyway, don't be surprised if you're an early adopter of 3D gaming and existing titles that just got the 3D overhaul don't look as crisp as they once did. The sacrifice for progress, I suppose.

4/24/2010 10:33:06 AM Ben Dutka

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little dreamer
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 11:02:39 AM
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I just hope they don't dim down the visuals too much.

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JPBooch
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 11:11:07 AM
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The drop from 1080P to 720P is very drastic in regards to pixels. But, I'm talking actual pixels not what your eyes can discern. Visually the difference isn't all that big.

That being the case, a game dropping from 1080P to 720P for a mode that requires you to wear a pair of shades isn't going to change anything.

Also, I don't think it is fair to assume that a game running in 720P will drop to a sub-standard high def.

The amount of resources used is significantly greater from 1080P to 720P. Not so much from 720P to 480P.

1080P = 2073600 pixels
720P = 345600 pixels

Difference of 1728000

480P = 921600 pixels

difference from 720P to 480P = 576000

I'd bet the PS3 can handle 720P just fine in 3D, it's just the 1080P rez that's a beast.

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Taha1
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:32:30 PM

i think you mean 720p = 921600
and 480p = 345600

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manofchao5
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 2:21:27 PM

kind of mixed up your results dude
anyway dont mind 1080p-720p cause its still at least its still a high resolution but i dont want to see standard definition 3d then its not even worth it

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eLLeJuss
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 6:00:43 PM

Meh i was in sony awhile ago and saw there 3d tv! its damn amazing if u ask me! They also showed that killzone commercial, the one where u follow the bullet around till it hits the guy. It was really really nice :D

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JPBooch
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 8:55:11 AM

Actually, I didn't mix up my results. The definition gets its standard by the lesser number. Thus 720P is 1080x720 progressive scan and 480P is 720x480, thus the numbers I posted above.

1080P is 1920x1080

However, I just read an article that says MotoStorm will be scaled down to a subHD level. The reason being that in order to do 720P in 3D you basically have to render to images (one for each eye) in 720P. That would be like having a game using a higher rez that 1080P.

With that information, it makes my point moot anyway, lol.

It looks like 3D gaming will have to take hold on the next generation systems. These systems won't be able to handle it with a high rez.

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Fane1024
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 7:26:42 PM

1080p = 1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600
720p = 1280 x 720 = 921,600
480p = 853 x 480 = 409,440 (or sometimes 720 x 480 = 345,600)

So, yes, you got your numbers switched. No big deal, though.

Each is 2.25 x the next lower resolution.



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Kowhoho
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 11:28:36 AM
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This was bound to happen, at least in the beginning. Doesn't surprise or shock me at all.

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SmokeyPSD
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 11:34:22 AM
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biggest loss i feel is for Wipeout, it's big achievement, and what makes the game, is the crisp 1080 gameplay.

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Superman915
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 11:36:19 AM
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not surprising. I'll keep my 1080P.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:54:11 PM

You do realize a great majority of the games out there are NOT in 1080p?

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Superman915
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:21:27 PM

wipeout = 1080p

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:32:21 PM

720p= Hardly any difference.

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MysteriousMagus
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:52:44 PM

lol you clearly are blind, no difference with 1080p and 720p?
I been gaming on pc and ps3 and i can tell you there is a heck lot of difference between them... But you don't get to see it until you play in a 21.5 inch screen really close to it.... lol or in a 50in plasma

I want to get that game but they don't sell psn cards here yet plus i don't have a credit card lol

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:39:03 PM

Clearly you can't read or comprehend basic english.

I never said there was NO difference, I can tell there's a difference but its a small one. Not one that should make anyone shun new tech because of a reduction from 1080p to 720p.

As i said, there is HARDLY a difference.

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Zorigo
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 6:30:18 AM

@Magus If theres a barely any difference, why is everyone complaining. we know that know, lets stop arguing.
also @Magus, where are you, because europe has them i think. i haven't checked but im pretty sure ive seen them in game.

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Taha1
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:28:25 PM
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ben: to answer your question

in 3d the differencce between 720p and 1080p is almost non-existent.

sure, you can pack more detail in with 1080p but it still looks good in 720p.

btw theres a really good digital foundry article on this : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-making-of-ps3-3d-article

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:49:19 PM

You must be blind too, wanna be friends?

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Scarecrow
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:42:36 PM
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3D's a dumb gimmick

This one of those cases where Sony (and other companies, Sony's not alone in this) want to push ANY idea they think will make more money through

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Scarecrow
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:35:42 PM

That Sam & Max ad is really annoying...

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fluffer nutter
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:36:57 PM

Your negativity is a dumb gimmick. lol :p
So much hatred for 3D. What did 3D do to you?

Wouldn't the fact that 3DTV's are 240Hz help negate these effects?

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:59:00 PM

Yea SHAME on Sony for trying to give us more options for entertainment!

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bridgera
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 3:12:25 PM

Sony pushing 3D gaming at this stage is definitely a gimmick. It's neat that they are bringing out this technology, but when I see less than $50 of games bundled with a $1500+ TV, I can't help but see that they are just trying to sell TVs.

3D technology may very well be awesome in 5-10 years, and might make it into the next gen consoles, but I just don't see a whole lot of developers picking up 3D at this point.

Go ahead and buy this stuff if you want it, it may be fun/neat, but don't be too surprised if 2 years from now, you don't see a whole lot of games in 3D.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 4:35:41 PM

Yea but Sony is a company who makes TV's. Why wouldn't they want to push us to buy them?

Also, i think there would be people calling this a gimmick regardless of when it was presented or made available.

Have either of you had a chance to play with this the 3D tech? It's actually quite impressive. I suggest you go to your nearest Sony Style and see for yourself. Its shaping up to be more then a "gimmick."

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shadowscorpio
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:25:56 PM

Right Jawknee

Sony has been in the electronic making business (TVs, VCRs, Stereos, etc) even before the decided to dive into the console gaming biz. Its only natural that they promote new technologies concerning their field of expertise.



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bridgera
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 10:46:48 PM

Actually I'm really just calling it a gimmick because I don't see a whole lot of developers picking up 3D games in the next few years.

Now if 2 years from now there are 100+ 3D games, well I'll be wrong, but I really don't see that happening.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 12:47:31 PM
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Meh, 1080p dropped to 720p isn't a big deal. These were games made before 3D too so I'm sure once they make new games with proper coding, this will become less of an issue.

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Vitron
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 7:45:57 PM

But its still on its premature state and further improvements can still be made in the future so I'll have to buy it later when its cheaper

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rell
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 1:36:23 PM
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So wait wat about gt5 is it going to be affected too by 3D 1080p scale down?

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 2:05:17 PM
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And so I will wait a couple years more, until they've much improved the technique.
I'll stick with my good ol' 32" Sony Bravia flat screen HDTV.

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DemonNeno
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 3:35:40 PM
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I still think 3D will be a fad.. One hell of an expensive one at that! Yikes..

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Mystearica
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 3:46:50 PM
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Stupid question - the scaling back I don't really understand (not a tech expert). But when active 3D (as opposed to passive 3D) TVs come out will they scale back the resolution as well?

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Qubex
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 4:02:01 PM
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I'm out of the stereoscopic 3D game for now. Killzone 3 3D is tempting imao, but i am happy to wait this out for a year or two.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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RadioHeader
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 5:09:42 PM
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3D gaming was never going to be perfect right out of the gate, and it may be a while before it's commonplace, but you knew it had to be Sony who started it.

PS3 only does everything, including starting the next gen with current gen hardware.

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 5:38:41 PM

Yeah, I hope that in four to five years (maybe 3) we'll all be here sayin', yeah, Sony didn't only bring up cd's for the PS1 and blu-ray for the PS3 to be the mainstream storage for the generation, but they also launched 3-d for in our living rooms.

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Nlayer
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:01:55 PM
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I can wait a little before making the move to 3D. I just got enough money to buy a Plasma, I can't afford another TV. I really wish I could though.

Does anyone know how the 3D entertainment will effect one's eyes? When I watch a 3D movie, it is stressful to my eyes a little, but it's only around 2 hours. I can only imagine what will happen after I play a video game for 5+ hours everyday with the 3D glasses on.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:17:49 PM

Get an LCD or LED. Plasmas burn.

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Nlayer
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 7:13:05 PM

I already have a Plasma is what I meant. I wasn't very clear on my post. I've had it for a while now. I'm very careful with my electronics too. By the time it does burn(If that does indeed happen) I'll most likely be ready to upgrade to 3D.

It was the cheapest one I could find, plus I know a lot of people who have Plasmas. I prefer them more, personal preference of course. I've never run into any problems nor have my friends who also own a Plasma.

I've also done a lot of research on the matter before buying. I was scared of the Burn-In that occurred on older models, but I found that newer models do not have this problem(You have to work really hard at it to create a Burn-In for newer Plasmas, so it isn't impossible to have it). Actually my Plasma has a "Game Mode" specifically made for gaming so that the TV will preform better without any worries. I've done my research. I've also found in my research that gameplay looks better on Plasma than it does on LCD's, of course it all boils down to personal preferences.

Sorry for the long post, which was really off-topic; I just wanted to state that I have done my research and I believe I bought the correct TV for my personal needs. =]

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Shams
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:03:56 PM

I got me a plasma, too (tc-p42s1), and although it naturally had slight image-retention in the beginning when breaking it in (only noticeable when the screen goes black when turning it on or off), it has zero "burn-in", and no more image-retention than a CRT. It displays more colors and contrast than LCD's twice and thrice it's price, and it's only minus is it's power consumption. I didn't fully appreciate how beautiful U2 (which I played first on my larger LCD), until I played it on the plasma. Plasma's carry a bad reputation from their first generation, but since then, afford the best quality picture at the lowest price. Pioneer Kuro Elite's are still regarded as the best TV money can buy (despite the company being sold and the series discontinued). Just as ask Arnold K. He's got one.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:40:34 PM

Plasmas do have great colors. I've always been weary of of getting one because of the burn in.

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___________
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 1:58:46 AM

plasmas are by far the best.
im really regretting getting my sony Z series, i should of gone with the plasmas.
LCDs just look far to washed out, no matter what i do with the settings it still does not look right.

burn in on plasmas are no where near as bad as they use to, its almost gone now.
my cuz bought a new series 8 plasma a year ago, leaves it on at least 6 hours a day and its fine.
not to mention the picture quality is 10 times better than my set, not to mention it was 1400 bucks cheaper than mine!

plasmas are dirt cheap in comparison to LCDs even LEDs and they have better picture quality.
only downside to a plasma is their power consumption but well they are a sh*t load cheaper so thats basically covered.
the light reflection can be a problem, you need a much darker room for plasmas than you do for others.

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Fane1024
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:37:04 PM
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Stereoscopic "3D" is always going to take nearly 2x the graphics processing power of the same game in "2D", since two distinct images need to be generated, meaning the games will always look worse in 3D (unless they weren't top-notch graphics in the first place). Either the resolution or the frame rate are likely to take a hit, since those are easier to downscale than other graphical calculations.

It's the same as with split-screen. Devs are avoiding split-screen multiplayer (esp. co-op) because they can't make the graphics as good. 3D will likely be the same until the next generation appears with graphics cards capable of creating 1080p x 120 f.p.s. images without difficulty.

As Jawknee said, most current-gen games don't even render in 1080p x 30 f.p.s. as it is.

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Jawknee
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 6:52:02 PM

I watched a demo for Motor Storm in 3D. i couldn't tell any difference except that that it was 3D.

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Temjin001
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 10:33:09 PM

Yes, and I think the 3D Metal Gear Solid arcade game uses two separate Nvidia graphics cards to generate the two images for the 3D effect. Unfortunately for the PS3 this generation, 3D will be something of a backhanded deal. More depth, but less detail and res.

Though, I think it's cool Sony is putting the effort to even bring us 3D gaming to begin with. I'm happy it's coming. But I don't suspect any real true strides until the next generation of consoles land.

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Fane1024
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 7:44:21 PM

Yeah, Jawknee, but you've got those big square glasses. ; D

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Wage SLAVES
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 8:40:17 PM
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I noticed this when I tried it out at best buy. Everything looked a little blurry and not as sharp. You can somewhat spot, if not, sense the shutter effects. I am one of those easily plagued by motion sickness so I won't be able to enjoy this.

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Lucifer_Light
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 9:23:32 PM
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One thing I hate about 3D TV is the fact that you have to wear glasses. It means that if I have 2 glasses, when I have friends over, I still have to watch 2DTV cos my friends won't have the glasses.

But beside the point, I played the Motorstorm 3D Demo at Sony Showroom in Ginza the other day. Played in a dark theatre on the LX900 60". I am not a person who delves into pixels and resolutions and all the tech talk. When I play, I just know enough to tell if it is beautiful or not, or is it fun. And speaking for myself, I had A LOT of fun!!

I have played the normal version of Motorstorm, beautiful graphics (720p I think). I have watched the 3D demo, a bit of a motion sickness there watching someone else play. But I did not notice any drop in resolution (I may be blind). But when you play it yourself, it is like you have been absorbed into a different game all together. When you crash the truck, it actually feels like you have actually crash a miniature toy truck. It feels like I have taken a toy truck from my world and crash it into that 2D cliff (I sucks at words).

I know 3D gaming is going to be fad... but don't write it off as yet. I am hooked on to it the moment I played the PS3 on it. Watching movies on 3DTV on the other hand is a different story for another day.

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Temjin001
Saturday, April 24, 2010 @ 10:24:22 PM
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Whether it's early 3D games retrofitted with 3D or newer games created with 3D viewing in mind, a processing cost will always be made to accommodate the 3D technology. Check out the Digital Foundry's examination (at Eurogamer) to see a detailed analysis of how 3D is accomplished for the PS3.

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RebelJD
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 12:58:57 AM
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3DTV and gaming rocks. Too bad the TVs are pricey and if someone JUST purchased themselves a huge LED-LCD TV I'm sure they're not going to shell out another 3 grand for a 2010 version.

You know, a lot of TVs with smaller screens only display as high as 720p. It can't possibly be true that everyone complaining about the difference with 1080p and 720p actually have a screen larger enough at home that displays 1080p.

How about people just support a new technology so things can start to look better for everyone. Don't tell me Apple is the ONLY company people will bend over backwards for..come on now.

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___________
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 2:00:52 AM
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how did i know?
sounds like the 1080P 120HZ father ken promised us is nothing but a pipe dream!
granted these are early days and these games are not coded for 3D so that could improve.
i just cant see it taking off at all, most high tech PCs struggle to produce true 3D effects, so how the hell is a humble console suppose to keep up?

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mid10smaradoarg
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 7:05:16 AM
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can u turn off the 3d on those 3d tvs and watch 2d or not???
________________ plasmas better than lcd and leds???? ur crazy man
the only way i will buy a 3d tv is if they make the screen ready to watch it without having to put the glasses.
100$ for glasses?? hell no!! what if i have friends o family coming home???
3d=Useless

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___________
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 9:13:15 AM

you dont have to watch the content in 3D if you dont want to.
there are TVs in china that do not need the use of 3D TVs the news is give it a year or 2 and it should be out worldwide.
im only getting a new TV because the one i use is 4 years old its not even full HD so its about time i switch over.
plus i HATE LCDs they drive me insane because they make everything look so washed out.
black looks like Grey on my TV.

plasmas are the best by far the color depth, contrast is far superior.
not only are the colors brighter, more vibrant but plasmas create natural colors where LCDs and LED sets over saturate the colors making them look faked.
reds are far to red, and create a haze over near scenes.
plasmas are by far the best of the 3, any specialist home cinema owner will tell you that.
theres a reason why Panasonic TVs largest most popular manufacture only make high end plasmas, LCDs they dont bother they only create cheap ones.

there cheaper, have far superior picture quality.
i really can not see why LCDs and LEDs are still being made theres absolutely no competition between the 3.
its like comparing a Ferrari to a suziki and a kia.
it does not take a brain surgeon to tell you which one of those is best.

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eLLeJuss
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 6:03:53 PM

Plasma TV's overheat mad fast. Especially when you leave a still frame for a while. Plasma's are less durable than LCD's.

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___________
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 8:33:03 AM

so does my sony D series LCD.
its only a 32 inch and i leave it on for 20 minutes and no joke if you touch the screen you will burn your freaking hand off!
i have never had another TV do that to me, every other TV i have used barley gets warm.
my TV + laptop + ps3 = enough generated heat to warm the house for the next 52 years!
and at lease 70% of that heats from my TV.

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Robochic
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 9:05:33 AM
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3D to me is getting pushed very quickly I worry about that. I think I'll wait a while till

1) price is down
2) price for the glasses are down
3) make sure to have a good sturdy bucket.LOL, I get motion sickness, it'll be interesting in June when I take my son to Toy Story 3.

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kiwami_nemesis
Sunday, April 25, 2010 @ 11:33:32 AM
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There is a big difference between 1080p & 720p but if you sit far enought your eyes won't be able to tell.
3D is a new technology the playstations are know for improving & pushing it's limits as developers get to know the system better, so it will take a while to see 3D titles @ the same levels as some of the best looking 1080p 2D titles.perhaps with the next ps4 we will get bettet 3d looking games. But we should see a resolution jump to 2160P in the future TVs so let's see what the future PS4 is going to bring us.
In my case i just bought a LED TV so for the next few years i don't care about 3D since i won't buy a new tv for quiet some time. So i would take any well made 1080P game. "Release GT5 already"..lol

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DeathOfChaos
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 7:22:05 AM
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That's kind of sad. Hopefully future titles don't suffer the native resolution to drop. If so, it's going to an XBox effect in the form of a gimmick.

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