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PS3 Slim Helps Push Console To New Fiscal Heights

When reading this, please remember that Sony's fiscal year does not coincide with the actual calendar year. It's easy to get confused.

Anyway, something big happened when Sony introduced the slimmer, more efficient, and above all else, cheaper, PlayStation 3 last fall. Sales quickly shot up and it certainly helped that one of the best games we've ever seen, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, released at about the same time. And of course, if you wanted to play it, you needed a PS3. As we compare year-over-year fiscal financial results, we find that the new $299 price tag - and the addition of unbelievable exclusives - has really scored. Check out the sales graph over at PlayStation University; it seems that worldwide sales of the system for 2009/2010 has already surpassed the total sales for the entire 2008/09 fiscal year. That means it only took six months to top the previous fiscal year's results, and we have yet to count the January 1 through June 30 period. This really shows just how popular the PS3 Slim has been in such a short span of time.  Remember the big ol' 60GB fattie that cost $600...?  Seems like a long time ago, doesn't it?

At this rate, it'll be interesting to see how much longer it'll be before the PS3 stands even with the Xbox 360. We've actually already asked that question and it seems our timing was just about right.

4/26/2010 8:59:26 PM John Shepard

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Comments (76 posts)

Dancemachine55
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 9:19:52 PM
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I have no doubts that the PS3 will surpass the 360 as technology advances.

The PS3 was TOO FAR ahead of its time, and therefore had the hefty price tag. Given enough time, the tech and software support soon catches up, and who is once again leading the pack?

That's right, Sony and the PS3.

Name one other console that supports blu-ray and hi-def gaming. (And I mean TRUE hi-def gaming with 1080p support)

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Highlander
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:16:43 PM

A *lot* of 360 games render at about 600p to take advantage of the free FSAA features of the 360s GPU, so it's actually fair to say that the PS3 is the only HD console. The 360 uses it's built in scaler to display at 720p or 1080p, but the game is rendered and anti-aliased at a lower resolution.

Granted an anti-aliased scene at 600p will scale pretty well, it's still not HD.

Almost ever PS3 game renders at 720p or 1080i with some even attempting 1080p. It's a small minority of PS3 games (generally ports) that don't render at 720p or better.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:40:30 PM

Thanks for the details Highlander.

I've never been good with keeping up with all the little details in consoles, like resolution, processing power, etc. Where do you get your info?

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Alienange
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:16:34 PM

He gets his info beamed into his brain from outer space. You didn't know?

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Vitron
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:44:36 PM

I think that's the only possible explanation;)

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 2:33:35 AM

I am cursed with a mind that collects trivia about things I am interested in. Technology, computers, video games, you know, geek worthy stuff. The curse part is that it collects almost nothing else.....and isn't always perfect on the recall thing. BUt, it does collect an amazing amount of 'stuff'.

Mostly it comes through reading tech articles all over the web. Combine that with enough tech knowledge to be dangerous, and you have it.

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 6:06:29 AM

And we're all lucky to have you and your brain here Highlander.

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Vitron
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 7:18:41 AM

Color me jealous...

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Vitron
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 7:20:22 AM

What can I say? Sony overtaking M$ was a situation that was inevitable. It was just a matter of time


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BikerSaint
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 9:48:45 PM
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The only problem I foresee with Sony overtaking M$ soon, is there's very little PS3's to be found.

Sony really needs to ramp up production & put all 3 work shifts at all of the company's doing their manufacturing into overdrive, so there's plenty of PS3's out on the shelves for sale.

Then we'll much more likely to see PS3 sales skyrocketing to the moon, Alice!

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Darthvintage
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:17:23 PM

BikerSaint

you haven't really thought that out have you?

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:54:09 PM

Darth, Biker is right. He wants Sony to match demand. And they should

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johnld
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:26:16 PM

i believe they're setting up to make a ps3 with the newer/smaller/cheaper chipsets i've been hearing about. If so, they're setting themselves up to be able to compete with microsoft if they decide to drop the price.

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Cesar_ser_4
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:12:14 AM

bad thing though, if they speed up production that much the result will be threefitty failure rate

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 12:04:16 PM

Cesar, speeding up production doesn't mean you have to do sloppy work. Speeding up a research and development team is where sloppy, shoddy results can come into play. Such is what happened to the 360.

Speeding up production on a product that is already sound, like the PS3, makes good business sense. When you have a high demand on your product, you have to strike while the iron is hot.

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Highlander
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:13:37 PM
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Ben, I honestly believe that the PS3 has overtaken the Xbox 360 - globally - already. Here's why.

The stated numbers are less than 5 million units apart. However Microsoft counts units shipped, not sold and routinely stuffs the channel.

Additionally, the numbers given by MS include all the 360s sold as replacements for those 360 owners on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even 5th or 6th replacement. We know that the failure rate of the Xbox360's manufactured during the first 2-3 years after launch was in the region of 30% and the only actual fix for a dead unit is replacement. Furthermore we know that the failure rate of the newer systems has got only a little better leaving between 15% and 20% of current units failing. If the total of 360 units quoted by Microsoft is 38 million and only 20% of those represent sales of a second unit to replace a dead one that means that up to 7.8 million of those 38 million units are actually replacing dead ones. Even if it's only 10% of the 38 million units that's still 4 million.

I know that this verges on the rationalization, but it is a known fact that there are so very many dead Xbox360s and that the failure rate of the PS3 is close to the norm for consumer electronics (2-3%).

It just seems to me that taking the numbers at face value doesn't work with the 360 because the absolutely astronomical failure rate the product has suffered skews the numbers horribly.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:57:50 PM

Microsoft is guilty of "fuzzy math"

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 12:43:51 AM

That makes plenty of sense but just try to get the Xbots to understand that. It's impossible. They get REALLY mad if you even bring up the idea that MS's sales numbers are artificially inflated due to the catastrophic failure rate of the system.

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FatherSun
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 6:46:57 AM

The bamboozlebox360!!!

Borrowed tech. (If reports of M$ getting the jump on SONY and IBMs chipset are accurate.) Semi-HD experience. (Built in upscaler.) Incomplete package. (Online $ervice, Wifi, adaptors, controllers,ect...) Gambling addiction.(10%-20%-30%-40%-50% failure rate.. Just like the lottery.. Hey, you never know!)

CONSPIRACY MODE:

M$ is subliminally controlling is user base.. NATAL will know everything about you...

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NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 7:15:18 AM

I wonder if they'll make a panoramic Natal so Gabe can try it out for L4D3?

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Vitron
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 7:33:28 AM

@highlander

........*speechless*........

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Nynja
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:40:54 AM

Based on a study done in 2009, Sony's PS3 has a failure rate of about 10% and the 360 was at 23%. At 34 million consoles sold for the PS3, that is about 3.4 million dead consoles. To my knowledge most PS3 users take advantage of Sony's replacement plan in order to keep their older backwards compatible PS3s. I would say no more than 25% of those failed PS3s garnered a re-buy. That's only 850,000. So Sony's PS3 install base is probably sitting about 33 million if we also take in a small account for those who bought the console only for bluray movies.

At 40 million consoles sold for the 360, that means 9.2 million have failed. I would say that roughly half of those users went out and purchased a new console - a "re-buy". This gives us 4.6 million. Lets not forget the 1,000,000 consoles that were banned which probably led to about 1/3 of re-buys, roughly 330,000. This gives us the 5 million that Highlander quoted above.

Lets tally that all up;

PS3 total sales 34,000,000

Failed consoles 3,400,000
Re-buys 1,000,000

Total minus re-buys = 33,000,000

360 total sales 40,000,000

Failed consoles 9,200,000
Re-buys 5,000,000

Total minus re-buys = 35,000,000

A difference of 2 million. I would say the Sony PS3 and Microsoft Xbox 360 are neck and neck right about now.

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Nynja
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:41:30 AM

My source...

https://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf

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kraygen
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:15:15 AM

The biggest problem with trying to figure all this out is that depending on the source of your information the percentage of failure rate for both systems changes drastically.

I have found sources stating that the original release 360 had over a 50% failure rate, while the latest models still have just over 20% failure rate. With models in between ranging around a 30-35% failure rate.

Plus take into consideration that all of these failure ratings numbers have been done on small scale surveys mostly and that some xbots won't even admit to their 360 failing, it is indeed nearly impossible to figure out the actual numbers for the 360 units.

However we can all agree that lots of 360's have failed, M$ counts replacements and shipped as new units sold, and in the end. Ps3 has more original sales than M$ at this time if you know how to do math.

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:54:37 AM

@Nynja,

The problem with that study was that it was a self selecting study of hardcore gamers who used their consoles heavily. It's a survey of those gamers who felt it necessary to obtain third party hardware cover - a group who are pre-disposed to use their consoles more heavily than the norm.

The 30% figure bandied about regarding early Xbox360 reliability comes from Microsoft's own comments about the RROD problem 2 and a half years into the life of the 360 when the finally admitted there was an issue.

If you look at the failure rate of PS3s across the entire population of units sold, it's in the 2-3% range.

Your math is also subject to fairly wide margins of error considering the number of factors and assumptions involved. That's why I specifically did not try to do a comparison of numbers and only used them illustratively. It's impossible to know the actual numbers, but it's definitely possible to understand the context. In this discussion context truly matters because of the very fact that the actual numbers will never be disclosed.

The context is that the 360 has a very high (compared to other consoles) failure rate, stories of users on their 3rd or 4th 360 are common place, and Microsoft has acknowledged a failure rate of approximately 30% across the entire population of Xbox 360s made in about the first two years of the product's life. The context includes the massive sales of Arcade units to 360 owners looking for a second unit to replace their first if it goes down - a hot stand-by if you will. The context includes the fact that PSN membership is growing faster than XBL membership and the PS3 is the more connected console. The context includes the fact (and you'll need more than a self selecting survey from a third party hardware service company to refute it) that the PS3 has a failure rate in line with normal consumer electronics (2-3%).

The thing is, it's kind of pointless in any event when you consider that every study and survey into the matter of console reliability has shown that the Xbox 360 is several times less reliable than the PS3.

The interesting thing about all such surveys is that the do not tend to distinguish fatal failure and repairable failure. A lot of PS3 failures are down to the HDD, which could be swapped out by the user, but often is not. Some 360 failures are also due to this. The Wii has no HDD, and so never suffers such issues.

What I would love to see, and doubt we'll ever see, is a survey that shows actual motherboard or optical drive failure rates, as these car components that the end user cannot replace.



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Nynja
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 1:32:48 PM

@Highlander & Kraygen;

I think we can all agree that it is clear the 360 has a much higher failure rate than the PS3 or any other console in history. No disagreement from me here.

Forgive me for using round about numbers and lots of speculation. As you know and stated above, unforntately without concrete evidence of true failure rates for each 360 and PS3 model and number sold for each model containing 'new and improved' chipsets it will be impossible to get exact numbers. In my post I was taking another approach to calculating the actual install base of each console. There are many more factors that could drastically affect the end result. I wanted to go with the lowest possible numbers on both ends in an attempt to avoid exaggeration and make the point that the install base of the PS3 and 360 are much closer than what the sales figures show. I do believe that the failure rate is higher than 23% for the 360, but have not been able to find a reliable (if you want to call it that) source that provides more current numbers for both the PS3 and 360.

I keep hearing poeple state that Microsoft counts refurbished consoles sent to customers as a unit sold. Does any one have proof or a source for this? I believe deep down that Microsoft is a sleezy company, but not that bad. When I talk about 're-buys' I am referring to only those consumers who rather purchase a brand new console from a retail shop in an attempt to get the newer Japser models. 3 out of 5 of my friends who own 360s have done this. One example my reasoning; My friend owned a launch 360. It died on him several months after MS announced their 3 year extended warranty. He sent the unit in for the free repair. He is the very impatient type who went out and bought another 360 the next day and when the reburshed unit returned, he gave it to his son. He has repeated this process twice thus far.

As for the actual PS3 failure rate, I selected a source, which has a high potentual of distorted facts, that provided estimates for both consoles. Coming from one outside source that provides figures for both PS3 and 360 seem to give a fair playing ground. Ultimately I do believe that the PS3 and 360 are neck and neck at this very point. Similar to that of the SNES and SEGA days, but on a more grand scale.

I think we are all attempting to reach the same point, with just different methods of attack. I certainly would love to see how close we are to the actual numbers. Maybe one day we'll find out.

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 5:06:38 PM

Nynja, I keep hearing this allegation that MS counts refurbs as well. I am not sure that they do. All my points are from the point of view of repeat purchases made by people with a dead 360 who just go get a new one, or people who buy an Arcade unit so if their main Xbox 360 dies they can move the HDD and continue without skipping a beat.

If MS is indeed counting the refurbs as well...oh dear.

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Milonakis
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:20:41 PM
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There comes a time when people can't play dumb to quality anymore.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:48:14 AM

Good luck with that request. They're not playing dumb! LOL

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BikerSaint
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:26:06 PM
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Darthvintage,
What's was there that wasn't understood?

Not enough PS3 supplies to satisfy demand.

Ramp up production, & much more sold, faster.

Long story short!

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Darthvintage
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:37:05 PM

Think about how much it cost to make a ps3

just overproducing and not selling

(Like the Current Elite 360's)

just put the company in a financial situation.

Not to mention they are still supporting the ps2, Until i dont know when

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Highlander
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:45:57 PM

LOL! As we've both said before...

Note to Sony. Make more PS3s!

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Scarecrow
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:27:55 PM
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Eventually both consoles will get extremely cheap ($249.99, and then down to $199.99).

When this starts to happen the ps3 will EASILY mock the other console and run with the lead.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:56:15 PM

I don't see $199 happening until ps4 releases. Which I also predict will happen within the next 3 years. I don't see Sony unveiling it this E3, but I'd bet it will be at the next one. I could be wrong, though. It's happened before.

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Scarecrow
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:19:15 PM

Try 2012

And yeah, $199.99's asking a lot, but $249.99 is definitely in the 'near' future (1 or 2 years away)

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johnld
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:28:32 PM

especially when theyre using the new chipsets for future ps3 productions.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 12:29:53 AM

Darthvintage,
What are you talking about?

<<Think about how much it cost to make a ps3>>

With the new 35 MM chip inside the new Slim since March, Sony should already be making a profit on those

<<<just overproducing and not selling>>>>

Most store shelves are still bare of PS3's & that goes all the way back to just after the $299 price drop, so that means they all sold out like hotcakes.
Also if the shelves are bare of PS3's, that "MEANS" there are NO PS3's there to sell.

<<<(Like the Current Elite 360's)>>>

Huh? I'm a collector & I know what I'm talking about, I'm in all these stores almost every day looking for any an-announced or secret store sales. So I'd advise you to go just once & check all your local stores ASAP, because there's tons of dust-laden 360 boxes just littering up most stores, but lots of empty(or almost empty) PS3 shelves.


<<<just put the company in a financial situation.>>>

Huh, you mean Sony??? See my 35 MM chip statement above. So now none of that sentence makes a bit of sense

<<<Not to mention they are still supporting the ps2, Until i dont know when>>>

So Sony's still supporting the PS2, so what?
At least that shows that Sony stands behind their product, unlike that other money grubbing scumbag of a company, M$.

And for your information on the original Xbox, it came out mid November 2001 in NA, and M$ promptly retired it only 4 years later in 2006 & then stopped support of it in March 2008. And the xbox's Live support was recently discontinued by M$ too.

The Playstation 2 was released in Japan in 2000, & to this day, it's still "taking names & kicking a$$" going on 10 years later now.
As of Oct 1,2009, Sony had sold 140 MILLION PS2 consoles,
I repeat...140 MILLION consoles!
Plus add in these facts that Sony is still making a very good profit on every one now sold, and that there's still games coming out for it now, and that Sony has also stated that the life cycle of the PlayStation 2 will continue until demand for it ceases.

The original life span for the PS2 console was set at 10 years, but according to Sony, its life cycle will continue as long as developers continue to make new games for the system, and as long as the console and its games continue to sell. So this is likely to continue for a little while longer.

Well, that certainly told me everything I need to know all right there.


So what were you saying again???

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 2:36:42 AM

@Biker - that was a thing of beauty.

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sunspider13
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 5:16:35 AM

Tell'em Saint.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 9:53:36 AM

It must be good to be in California because I have no problem finding PS3's on the shelves. Everybody, move to California but stay out of my backyard.

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rogers71
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 3:35:23 PM

And the devildog has put you in your place. Back to the drawing board, heh, Darthvintage?

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StangMan80
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:37:39 PM
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I remember That 60 gb i bought it for 600 bucks and it was worth every penny. Wow sony realy picked up there game good work I'm buying GT5 and maybe even another PS3 Good Job guys your doing great keep it up.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 4:51:14 PM

fluffer nutter,
Damn, cali's got PS3's when New Jersey doesn't?

Guess I'm coming back to Cali & putting up my tent in your FRONT yard.
PS Don't be mad if my Harley gouges up the lawn though.
So you live anywhere near Santa Monica or W. Covina????


Rogers71,
I've been told by lil Mutt'ly that if you don't want to be wearing a couple of well-mauled chew-toy femur bones, you better call him by his rightful non-God given pedigree name, and that's...."Demon Dog" LOL

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Jed
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:23:39 PM

I agree Stang. I held off on getting a 360 and camped out in front of Best Buy for 2 very cold nights for my PS3. Still the best purchase I have ever made.

The first year was a little tough, but we still got some great games. It joys me to see the PS3 doing so well these days and I just can't get enough of the unbelievable exclusives.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:45:33 PM
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Is it just me, or have all the Xbots suddenly gone quiet in the last few months?

Seriously, there's hardly anyone bagging the PS3 anymore!!! It's wonderful!!!!

The only weapon the Xbots use nowadays against the PS3 is lack of cross-game chat and party chat. And we all know it's coming.

PS2 backwards compatability is hardly an issue these days, so there's nothing bad to say about the PS3 anymore.

Bravo, Sony. Bravio.

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Darthvintage
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 10:54:40 PM

really?!?!?!?!

i watching the uncharted game of the year video and some bot was rambling on how the 360 version of FF Was Superior. he was getting bashed so badly he removed his comment

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Kowhoho
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:04:31 PM

Anyone, ANYONE who says that XIII is better on 360 either doesn't have their facts straight (and shouldn't be talking), or is just plain stupid.

*disclaimer: anyone who replies to this saying "I think it's better on 360, you gonna call me dumb?" when they obviously are just yankin my chain are exempt from this rule.

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Highlander
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:11:27 PM

Kowhoho

Say to them, "When you can prove that 720p game play and 1080p cut scenes with loss-less audio are inferior to 576p game play and 576p compressed video with compressed audio, I'll give you a dollar. Until then, shut up."

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Kowhoho
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:15:20 PM

I think the "1 disk versus 4 disks" argument will be easier for them to understand, Highlander! ;D

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johnld
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:30:49 PM

@kowhoho
I think they'll use that "1 disk versus 4 disks" as the the 360 has more game than ps3 because it had to use 4 disks, hahaha. those xbots

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Vitron
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:50:36 PM

Were sounding a bit like fanboys here, I suggest we quiet down and stare at there silence of shame.



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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 2:34:31 AM

"When you can prove that 720p game play and 1080p cut scenes with loss-less audio are inferior to 576p game play and 576p compressed video with compressed audio, I'll give you a dollar. Until then, shut up."

Facts do not a fanboy make.

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Vitron
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 7:22:03 AM

True but, it would only make them noisy and make up excuses not worthy hearing.

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FatherSun
Monday, April 26, 2010 @ 11:11:56 PM
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This was inevitable. Even after the premium launch price and the confusing marketing campaign the numbers are finally adding up. Imagine if backwards compatability and cross-chat were not factors. Among other things.

What really amazes me in all this is the seemingly absolute loyalty the xbox community has with the console. Its it me or is that RED RING hypnotizing these people. Red Ring. Rinse. Repeat.

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frylock25
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 12:27:39 AM
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i just read that the ps3 cell is now down to 40 nm. so this will help as it also has a 15% power reduction over the slim. so what is that like a 47% power reduction over the origanal ps3. where is the xbox? same sh!tty system.

all the reports of the system being hard to find make sense. if they got the chipset down in size for the slim but knew they had another downsizing for the chip right around the corner why not only put out what your selling.

soon they will have this smaller chip to put in there costing less making them more and not have old sysytems out there that arent makin sony the money.

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Robochic
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 1:05:28 AM
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@ thehighlander, how the hell does u're head not explode with all that info in there. I have learned alot of info from you :)

Sony will surpass in due time. I have seen lots on the shelves and some days stores have none but everytime I see 2 or 3 go out the stores here in Ontario Canada seem to stock up quick. Eventually I will buy another PS3 for my bedroom so me and the hubby aren't always fighting over it, he's been addicted to Dragon age recently where I've been playing the Sh!t out of Bioshock 2 in due time for another PS3 :)
Happy to see Sony is moving up quickly but I always new they would I had so much faith in them I forked over the 600 for a launched 20gig :)people said I was crazy but I knew I wasn't .

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frylock25
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 1:25:32 AM

i loved bioshock 2. well both of them but 2 was amazing. i loved what they did with it. bought the collectors edition.

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kraygen
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:24:48 AM

I hear ya robochic

I paid $500 for my MGS4 edition and people said I was crazy, now those same people are asking me where they can get one, but now they're selling for over $700 new and nearly $400 used.

I got my from walmart which came with a $100 gift card, so really I only paid $400, that was nearly 2 years ago and I couldn't be happier still.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 3:46:16 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Some of the info on this site is given by Highlander, that dude has so much stored inside his head. Its like i look at the article, gain some good info on whatever im interested in, then he comes into the comment section to drill more info in!

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 6:22:54 AM
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I'm still glad I bought my 60 gig when I did, it was the very last one available in my town, I got it for 500 euros, which would equal something like 650-700 dollars and it was worth every cent, it still is.
I had my good ol' phat Playstation 2(which never died on me) until I got my good ol' phat Playstation 3(which has never died on me either) and I hope I will have this until I get a good ol' phat Playstation 4(which will probably be death proof).

Yeah, I reckon in 2-3 years the gap will be closed, probably a straight 2 years. I think that will happen regardless of a price cut.

I will now start saving up money for a Playstation 4, so I can get one the day it arrives in stores here. With every new paycheck (yay I have a job now!), I'll put aside 20 bucks, ok, maybe 10 bucks.

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 9:04:22 AM
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I honestly don't care who win this "war", both in my opinion are great systems (I hate M$ though they are the devil) but as we always competition is healthy for us CUSTOMERS :), let them duke it out, I for one don't have any shares in neither so whatever .............

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 12:08:12 PM

The war is over, and we already have a winner - gamers. We won as soon as third party developers realized that the PS3 wasn't going away.

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 12:24:08 PM

Amen to that Bro, Amen to that

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Nynja
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 1:47:36 PM

@Highlander;

Excellent point and well done. 1,000 thumbs up for you.

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kraygen
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:26:52 AM
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all I can say it that I can't wait to get another ps3.

a phatty and a slim make a wonderful couple.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:34:27 AM
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Glad to hear that.

My PS3 Phat gets traded in once Gamestop actually has the PS3 Slims in stock!!

But hey, the 360 makes an excellent DVD player.

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 12:07:29 PM

Does your *phat* still work? Would you consider a private sale?

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Nynja
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 1:50:21 PM

lol at the 360 comment - but I disagree. With it's horrid history of disc scratching, I wouldn't even recommend it for movie playback.

I think the only thing the 360 is good for is giving Sony a wakeup call and forcing them to keep pumping out new features. Kudos to Microsoft for helping to make the PS3 what it is today, an amazing all-in-one entertainment package.

Side note; Watched Avatar last night on bluray using my PS3.... WOW. Amazingly beautiful.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 5:01:35 PM

Maxpontiac,
I think you'd do much better checking out Highlanders offer than letting GS steal that 60 Gigger away from you for $200.

The 60Giggers are the Creme De La Creme of all the PS3 consoles, and are worth much more than that.

Hell, just before the slims came out, I paid $555(w/tax & 1 yr warranty included) for mine last year.

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mexgeo86
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:55:34 AM
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It's a marathon, not a sprint. Sony knew and planned it from the beginning.

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:40:14 PM

Indeed. And if you remember back to the 360's launch, Sony managed to fake out MS and got them to blink first and launch early, way early. MS were originally going to launch about 6-9 months later. They rushed games and cut corners to get the 360 out first...

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Fane1024
Friday, April 30, 2010 @ 6:20:35 PM

That said, the head start is the only reason the 360 is still in production (and not abandoned in four years like the Xbox).

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Robochic
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:25:06 AM
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@kraygen ya I paid a little over 650 or closer to 700 don't remember with taxes for mine, from the Sony Store.

I would never ever think of getting rid of my phat princess since it has the b/c chip in it I just wish it had wireless capability but thats the price you pay for the 2 model instead of the first, just didn't have the cash for the first but my 20 gig is going strong have a feeling I'll have that beast for long long time.

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RebelJD
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:42:03 AM
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*High-Five* to Highlander, Biker, and Nynja.

I can't wait until PS3 surpasses the 360 numbers in total units sold and never looks back. Then we can all relax and just enjoy our console without comparison.

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Jed
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:24:09 PM

PSXE All-Stars

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Jed
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:27:33 PM
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Great news for all us PS lovers. Sony does need to get some PS3s out there pronto.

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