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Rumor: PS3 To Get Background Downloads Of Updates

PlayStation 3 owners have been waiting on cross-game chat but there's one other feature that has been requested: background patching.

Evidently, TheSixthAxis has the unofficial confirmation that background downloading of patches will become a reality at some point. This would allow you to move forward with other machine operations while a new update for a certain game downloaded, although in my experience, those game updates typically don't take very long. This is still a rumor, too, so don't go around saying it's an irrefutable fact. It would be quite cool if the PS3 could somehow manage to know what games you played recently and, while you're off adventuring in another title, the console goes and downloads the necessary patch. Technology is a crazy, wonderful thing. But I'm also willing to bet that cross-game chat is a more-requested feature and for online players, it's one that's long overdue. At the same time, the free PlayStation Network continues to be a big lure, as Sony claims there are around 39 million active PSN accounts across the PS3 and PSP installed user bases.

We'll have to see if background downloading of patches will be confirmed; in the meantime, we'll also be checking around to see of cross-game chat is a still a distinct possibility.

4/27/2010 8:53:53 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (68 posts)

Cholo Gamer
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:00:56 PM
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I would love to have that!

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:38:08 PM

I couldn't care less.

Sure we get more patches these days on networked consoles, but I notice the lack of other features more often.

Put this on the bottom of the list.

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:25:34 PM

I wish I could delete my reply... coming back to read it now, it sound very harsh. Thumbs down from me.

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Snorge
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:07:11 PM
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Everytime I hear cross game chat I get giddy.....please dont get my hopes up and speak these magical words unless theres some "solid" evidence. **goes back to praying for X game chat**

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sonic1899
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:07:09 PM

X-game chat is an overrated feature. I don't want the feeling of a plot to be ruined when someone wants me to join their group of annoying friends.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 5:49:26 AM

If you don't want to speak to them, don't join their group then....it's really not that difficult.

Meanwhile, people who want to speak to their friends would have the option to.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:36:24 PM

@Snorge,

Ever heard of Skype?

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:43:27 PM

@Crow;

That defeats the purpose of Sony's advertising "It only does EVERYTHING".

Sure, I could just conference call my friends on the phone if I wanted to eat up my anytime minutes. Sure, I could use Skype or XFire if I feel like running a 40 foot cable from my PC.

If you are an avid online gamer, such as myself, cross-game GROUP (i stress group) chat is fantastic feature that anyone with more than 1 online game and 2 PSN friends will appreciate.

Sorry to sound like such a prick, but if you have never used the feature then you don't know what you're missing.

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Rings of Uranus
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:45:43 PM

cross game chat is for xbots. there, i said it.


edit : don't listen to me, i have no friends anyway... :(

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Zorigo
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 12:16:03 PM

Nynja makes a good point, its for the game... and thats after all, what the ps3 is almost all about.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:11:09 PM
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Sounds OK, but I wouldn't want any game patch to download without me knowing first that it's even downloading.

If for some strange reason the patch screws something up, or what if it winds up interfering somehow with the game I'm already playing, or something else I'm doing on my PS3 at the same time?

I'd want to be able to look at that patch as just maybe being the culprit in a case like that.

Plus what if the patch is for a game we no longer want to play.?
Or how about if it's for a game that someone already got rid of??? I personally wouldn't want a patch for a game I don't have anymore, & it taking up any extra space on my hard-drive.

So I say, just give us some kind of notification first. Plus the options as to if, and/or when we want the patch to go through, if it's right away or we want to do it later
on.

Anyway, I hope Sony's already got all their bases covered on this one.

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jaybiv
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:16:23 AM

I'm not as concerned as you Biker, but I would at least like to know what games have patches available. Nothing frustrates me more than to try to play a game with friends on/offline, only to find I have to wait to download a patch.

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The Stig
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:40:05 AM

The option to select which games auto-check and download updates would be good.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:18:40 PM
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Nice to have i guess but i don't have a problem waiting for updates.

As for cross game chat, what the hell is the point again? Maybe a symptom of Twitch Gaming? Can't sit and play a game without doing some other task. Why is talking to a friend while playing two completely separate games beneficial? It's called a telephone.

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booze925
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:38:55 PM

@jawknee
the point of having cross-game chat is so we dont have to stare at a white screen to just chat with our friends, AND talk to our friends if they are playing a game we may not have.... no telephone required.
besides, if WE get it, thats one less argument 4 xbox owners to use against ps3

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johnld
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:46:22 PM

all i see with cross game chat is cheating. I mean if you have a group line then playing objective type games like search and destroy for modern warfare, then its just going to ruin the experience. I already know it happens on the 360 when the killed players can still be eyes for the people still in game. I mean why else do we blow peoples heads in killzone 2, to shut them the hell up.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:25:58 PM

Again, why should we want to chat with a friend while we're trying to play a game? Seems the most important form of communication would be playing a game you both have. And that can be done. If he doesn't have it why talk to him while playing it? If your playing a game you should be playing the game not having a conversation with a friend, no?

Well, i guess its kind of like johnld watching a movie with Picture in Picture while farming AP in FFXIII. hahaha

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johnld
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:36:57 AM

man, farming in FF13 is so boring and tedious i have to do something to keep me awake. especially when the damn adamantoise doesnt drop anything so i have to reload and spam death over and over again.

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AStiffyIffy
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 6:11:19 PM

There's nothing wrong with talking to other friends while playing a game. It's not as if by playing a game you can't do anything else. But if one disn't have any friends, then I would see it by your point of view.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 7:03:24 PM

::sigh::

once again, if your going to carry a conversation with some one, give them your full attention. Its rude. :)

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johnld
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 8:20:06 PM

its not about not being able to do something else while gaming. Its about choosing not to because you'll rather have your full attention and immersing yourself in that videogame's world. I really dont want someone constantly trying to invite me for cross game chat when i'm neck deep in a great game's story. thats why i started deleting people off my friendlist who never had anything better to say but sends me a ton of messages. hearing them talk about this crap than just reading or ignoring the messages is just more annoying.

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AStiffyIffy
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 9:34:02 PM

I see what you're saying but it's not really a conversation, in the way you're thinking. It's more like casually talking. I'll give you an example:
I was over at my girlfriend's house working on my anatomy homework with her and her brother set up his XBOX and joined an online party with his school friends. However, he was doing his homework and chatting with them at the same time.

Another example is using it as opposed to a cell phone to talk to a friend who lives in another country.

I would understand that if you were playing a game with a heavily-involved story, then you wouldn't want to be bothered. But for casual games, it wouldn't matter. It's just for chats, not full on conversations in the way you're thinking.

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Alienange
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:25:50 PM
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Oh wow. What a pleasantly retarded feature. This sounds like the gimped step brother of the 360's "download anything through the web" feature. What patch has ever taken more than three minutes to download and install? By the time you even hit "download in background" it'll be done.

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johnld
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:50:14 PM

its not just one patch. It more viable when downloading multiple patches. I started to get back to uncharted 2 and i had to download 6 patches and i couldnt even answer the messages i get while downloading. Its really helpful when you want to get back to a game that you havent played in a while. i probably need to download patches for killzone 2, maybe mag, and modern warfare 2.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 11:33:01 PM

hahaha why is it "retarded"? It may be small but its still a positive development.

You and ____________ must be the same person. Your negativity is uncanny!

speaking of MW2, what if its some ones first time popping the game and or some one has to redownload the 257 patches? would be nice to hide the reminder of how broken the game is. :)

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:29:56 AM

Blame Canada.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:46:07 AM

Alienange,
I have to disagree with the time.

I've found most patches & updates only take a couple minutes or less, and a few take up to 10 minutes but..... I wound DL'ing an humongous super-long update just last week.

Kane & Lynch:Dead Man's update download was slightly more than 1 hour long.

And then it took another frigging 23 minutes to install it.

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kraygen
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 8:35:01 AM

plus download times depend on your internet connection. I have 6Mb speed, but some of my friends only have 1.5Mb. So something that may only take me 3 minutes could take them over 10 minutes.

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johnld
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 8:21:42 PM

i just downloaded 8 patches just to play littlebigplanet again. the water feature is pretty cool by the way.

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InBlackestNight
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:51:23 PM
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Every time I read the words "cross game chat" I really want to hurt someone. One of the single dumbest things I've heard of.

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BTNwarrior
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:29:28 AM

well there has been one time when I wanted to use it, but had to use text instead

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, April 27, 2010 @ 10:56:23 PM
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Someone mentioned elsewhere online that the User Agreement for FW 3.21 (and now 3.30) includes extra text saying that Sony has the right to remove features and possibly even do automatic updates to the system in the background (no more CHOOSING to install a FW update???).

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Blaiyan
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 6:44:31 AM

Sadly it is true. It also says if you don't agree with sony to cancel your account and never visit any playstation sites. Just by visiting they claim you agree to their policy changes. But yeah! you'll be able to download firmware that removes features and possibly corrupt your system... but in the background.
*thumbs high Harry*

So you own the hardware but it's exclusively dependent on their software and they claim the right to do anything to it and PS3 owners are happy about this. Seriously. I read a comment from one of these extreme fanboys that said they can do whatever as long as I can play games.

Then you have Sony who I assume pretend to be legit forum members as there way of answering questions. Where Sony's trying to take Consoles is a lame place for me as a consumer.

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sawao_yamanaka
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 9:26:59 PM

For you misinformed individual. The software license agreement has always been there people finally read it after linux was removed. Microsft has it and Nintendo as well. Nothing new at all about it.

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faraga
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:22:15 AM
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And here comes faraga with the perfect solution for the patches:
A message comes up in your screen saying:
"A new update for [insert game which you have once played on your PS3] has been released, would you like to download and install it now in the background or rather the next time you play this game?"

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:48:56 AM

Genius!

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:51:54 AM

faraga,
Sorry, you are #2 with that thought(reference my 1st post above)

But anyway, great minds do think alike, LOL

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faraga
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 7:18:30 AM

Hmmm, I sped over the comment section a little because I didn't have much time (had to go to school), but it indeed is the same idea, I just worked it out a little more detailed. :-)

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SmokeyPSD
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 1:26:35 AM
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this would be great, i would be even more excited by this if this isn't coming out after linux being removed. This even true. my money is on not true. as sony is too busy with giving things we aren't asking for and taking things away.

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Robochic
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:32:41 AM
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@ Flutter Nutter and why are we blaming Canada?

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Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:17:15 AM

Because Trey Parker and Matt Stone told us too. :)

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___________
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:41:24 AM
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sweet, as long as it asks me if i want to download said patch or not.
some of us dont live in japan with unlimited download usages you know?

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FullmetalX10
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 5:42:10 AM
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Now that might be quite handy, as long as it's done in the context of you starting up your PS3, then you get the message, this game and this game need updates, and then you can go get the update, but they should also make an option in which you can delete the option of downloading an update for a game you don't play anymore.
I reckon' Sony will do fine.

I don't care about cross game chat, it would only be nice to have to shut em xbots up, I'd probably disable it if I had it though.

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JBLAZE
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 7:13:41 AM
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that would be great, hey have any of you had problems sinc your controls to your ps3 since the last update. i can only sinc two remotes on my new 250 gig slim.

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JackC8
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 7:32:49 AM
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I don't really see the point in it. I think it would be a really bad idea to have an update/patch downloading and installing while you were simultaneously playing that game. And as far as being able to do other things, like browse the store and stuff, it's just not a big deal. Those things take 5 or 10 minutes. If they want to improve something, how about not making me hit X numerous times to start the flippin' game? Or make me choose "okay" once the game has loaded, to signify my acceptance of the fact that is has, in fact, loaded? How about if I click on the game in the XMB, and my next button press is to choose which game save file I would like to continue with? That would be appreciated.

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kraygen
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 8:36:18 AM
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Well I would prefer to be asked before the download started, or to have the option to search for downloads or something like that.

So if they go ahead with this idea I just hope they have a few different options so everyone can use it the way they like.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:06:44 AM
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If cross game chat came to PS3 it would be another good option that the ps3 has, I don't see why anyone has anything negative to say about a feature that only helps communication between games.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:48:30 AM
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I don't see the issue with the firmware updates at all. It really shows the impatience of people.

Cross game chat is all that the PSN doesn't have. Well, that and a yearly bill.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:05:32 AM

Well if you had to reformat or something you may not want to watch it redownload all the patches for each game. MW2 and LBP(just to name a few) have had a ton of updates since their release. Sucks having to sit and watch it download 17 updates all over again.

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mike rlz
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:44:52 AM
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Oh give me a break. Cue the hate, but I think most people who say cross game chat is overrated are just trying to claim justification. It would be a great feature that should be at least AVAILABLE for THOSE WHO WANT IT. If YOU don't, then don't use it. Not everyone with a 360 is a "Twitch Gamer" on adderall, whatever that has to do with cross game chat. Is it because you secretly just stubbornly don't want a feature of XBL? Talk to friends during fighters, sports games, etc... I think it would be nice.

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:35:18 PM

Anyone who has used the feature on 360 will know the convenience of having such ability and will quickly notice the lack of it on PSN. Pretty sad that such an advanced piece of hardware lacks software (as in OS) innovation.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:42:59 PM

Innovation like a cellphone? Seriously, if you want to have a conversation with some one, put the game down and give those people your full attention. No reason to chat while playing a video game. Seems rude and pointless.

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:48:13 PM

@Jawknee

I don't feel like retyping the same thing I told Crow earlier, so here's a copy:

That defeats the purpose of Sony's advertising "It only does EVERYTHING".

Sure, I could just conference call my friends on the phone if I wanted to eat up my anytime minutes. Sure, I could use Skype or XFire if I feel like running a 40 foot cable from my PC.

If you are an avid online gamer, such as myself, cross-game GROUP (i stress group) chat is fantastic feature that anyone with more than 1 online game and 2 PSN friends will appreciate.

Sorry to sound like such a prick, but if you have never used the feature then you don't know what you're missing.

***Append to that;

You must not have very many online friends who play the same single player games as you. If you did, you would understand why everyone else who does wants such a feature.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 1:02:49 PM

Yea i read what you wrote and it still doesn't answer the question as to why having a conversation with some one while playing two different games is so important. If your going to have a conversation with someone, out of courtesy to that person you should put the game aside and give them your full attention.

As for playing the same single player games? So what, text him a message. Takes two minutes. Seems to me this is a pointless feature that the Xbots have been crowing about for no good reason for some time and a lot of PS3 people just want it for the sake of shutting up the Bots.

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:16:00 PM

Okay, I see what you are saying (or asking).

Certain games, I don't want to talk to anyone while playing. I literally have to sign off PSN to not be bothered. Other games, such as Demon's Souls would have been fantastic game to play while talking with a friend.

Sure we could use the text chat, which I don't mind when it's integrated into the interface of the game. If I have to go to the XMB which blocks my view in a game that cannot be paused and I have to put down the controller to type, it just isn't very convenient.

Many times while I'm enjoying an single player game I have friends who wish to talk with me who do not have my phone number, for specific reasons. Having to find a save point, exit the game, just to hold a short conversation is so frustrating.

Being an owner of both the PS3 and 360, I notice subtle differences in features such as cross-game party chat. Some things the PS3 does better, others the 360 does better. This has nothing to do with fanboy bragging rights.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:29:46 PM

fair enough.

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johnld
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 8:33:59 PM

well, text them your number then. hahaha, i'm just messing with you.

anyway, if you're playing an online game, and are trying to be serious about it, wont it be more productive to chat with people in the room you're playing with? doesnt cross game chat close that channel so you can only talk with people playing a different game instead of the people that you actually have to coordinate in a game to win?

I'm not saying cross game chat is plainly crap. what i'm saying is that its not as necessary as some people are trying to make it out to be. cross game chat will be a great addition to the ps3 functionality. at least its one more thing i can do when playing final fantasy 13. final fantasy 13 farming, check. 2-3 dvds to watch the same time, check. playstation mic so i can distract or ignore people online, check. maybe i can even blast some music for crossgame chat like what those idiots were doing in modern warfare 2 last night. I mean when 1 person does it, its irritating as hell. when everone with a mic does it, i stop playing or find a different room.

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:33:42 PM
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This feature better not come before any of the more requested ones. I'm getting real tired of Sony half-assing these updates. We have the ability to sort trophies. Great. Fantastic. How about something GAME or COMMUNITY related?

Where's the ability to appear offline while having full access to the PSN Store?

Where's the ability to talk with PSN friends while using my web browser, watching a video, playing music, or even a game?

Where's the ability to disable PSN messages only during gameplay?

Where's the search/sort feature for PSN download history?

Get it together, Sony. Lets not forget, we gamers are the reason you still have a PlayStation branch. Why are you holding out on features that many have been asking for that other consoles were capable of doing out of the box (minus web browsing/chat)?

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:38:00 PM
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twitch gamers need constant feedback, even when they're not shooting stuff up in an fps

I wish Sony wouldn't implement voice chat. That would send a message to gamers. ps3 is for the serious gamer.

If you want to talk all day long, get a cell phone, or get skype for your desktop/laptop.

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:44:12 PM

Wait, I use voice chat. So that means I'm not a serious gamer.

I take major offense to that comment.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 1:06:39 PM

Maybe you take yourself too seriously as a gamer. Relax, I'm sure Crow didn't mean anything by it.

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Nynja
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:22:55 PM

The reason I took offense to the comment is because of how close minded the point of view is.

"ps3 is for the serious gamer"

I don't understand how not chatting with other gamers makes one person more 'serious' than others. That is an insult to anyone who plays online games.

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whooka
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:42:16 PM
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I agree with Faraga and would at least like a prompt as to whether or not I want to download the patch rather then it being completely automated. As we've found out both Sony and developers can make things worse (bricked system after a firmware update anyone? I had one...), remove functionality (bye-bye linux), etc, so I don't like to download any updates until I know what they entail and they've been tested by a few thousand users with less patience then myself.

I've not updated to the linux-destroying version of the firmware yet myself. I've not really needed to as I only play Dragon Age these days which has no online play. It's a shame Sony makes these firmware updates mandatory to access their PSN network (we won't get into that discussion again) as had they not destroyed the linux option I would have updated my firmware by now and probably made one or two impulse purchases at the PSN but no real hurry to get back on there knowing I need to ruin my fatty console first to do it.

I may try to wait and just buy one of the new, slim PS3's as they never had the ability to do linux/etc, so I won't mind updating that one and then I can just keep my linux enabled fatty (or sell it on Ebay for more money then I paid for it since it's not a collector's item for those who want a crazy linux system)...

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:40:55 PM
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I've never had to download multiple updates for a game, it always grabbed the most recent up to date one and that was it.

I don't mind more features for PS3, background download sounds good. You should be able to pick what game you want to be updated that you own so it doesn't download an unwanted download.

I mostly wait a couple days before i download an update, just so i can be safe it won't brick my system or anything and so far I've been doing very good with it no problems so far (crosses fingers)

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LightShow
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:24:18 PM
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god finally!

theres no reason why i shouldnt have had this earlier.

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kevinater321
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:55:10 PM
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I would like to be able to install games and such. Is this just for firmware updates or for games and other stuff too?

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Mysterio Spyder
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 9:31:11 PM
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maybe "cross game chat" should be renamed "universal chat" for some of the members on here who don't seem to understand the benefits of it.

UNIVERSAL CHAT would be quite handy as I game with my my 2 younger brothers (3 seperate houses) and chat with them using PSN. I'm sorry but staring at a white screen to chat, and not be able to surf PS Store, or do anything else for that matter is just stupid. why would I want to be running my ps3, AND my pc at the same to talk when it would be more convenient to have it all in one? using cell phones is out because all 3 of us have different phone providers because we all have our preferences and it'll eat up my minutes.

I don't know about some of you but I am very capable of having a conversation while playing a video game. I don't get drowned in a video game world to where I wouldn't be able to hold the conversation properly. I can multitask very well. If I'm in a good game, and I don't wanna be bothered, I deny the request, simple, I'm not FORCED to use the feature. I understand the argument how UNIVERSAL CHAT could be used for cheating, yes, it could be if it's abused. I understand the question "why would you wanna be talking to somebody playing an entirelly diff game than you?" As I said before, I am quite capable of multitasking.

I just don't understand the hate towards another feature for the PS3. If you don't think it's beneficial, then don't use it. For me personally it would be a nice feature as I don't like being stuck in a white room and not be able to do ANYTHING else.

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Genesis_Angel
Sunday, May 02, 2010 @ 8:52:46 AM
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it wud be fun if someone just logs in and out and never stays in and evrytime cut in half the updates lol one reason that those kind of updates are not so good idea :)

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