Is Record Of Agarest War A Litmus PSN Pricing Test?
The game itself isn't necessarily big news; the fact that it's only available on the PlayStation Network with a lofty price tag...well, that could be an interesting little test.
Okay, first- the Xbox 360 version of Record of Agarest War, the very revealing and awfully titillating RPG, has already shipped to retailers. It's a regular physical disc, obviously. However, PS3 owners will only have the option of downloading the game on the PSN; there will be no Blu-Ray disc available at the stores. But because it's a full-production game, the price will be $44.99, which is actually $15 less than the $60 360 version, so that's a bonus. But we've noticed that people tend to set their own limits on PSN spending and it may not matter that Record of Agarest War is a full game. Thing is, we're not yet to the point where all games have to be purchased digitally; when gamers have a choice in the matter, and they have to pay out a significant chunk of change, are they more likely to simply get the physical media? And if there is no option for a disc and box, will they simply shrug their shoulders and go, "eh, it's the same thing"? There's very little on the PSN that even comes close to this price tag so, full game or not, it's going to appear a little out of place and some are gonna be confused.
So is the lack of an actual disc enough to make you download the game? It may appear high for the PSN but clearly, it's actually cheaper than the competition. The question is whether people would rather have something physical and tangible when it comes to higher prices.
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4/28/2010 10:26:20 AM Ben Dutka
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TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:42:21 PM
I'd have used the pound sign, but my wonderful keyboard only gives me this '#'. But I think you will understand the point.
Alienange
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:26:18 PM
tes37
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:45:56 PM
I have about 90 games for the ps3. Half of them are disc and if my collection can remain about half and half I won't have much of a problem.
oldmike
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:59:40 AM
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Will we buy 10gb+ downloads
on a game that can't be sold used.
What if the game is not for you.
There is no resale so your out $45
Also that's a lot of GB to download
It will take a day or so to download
I keep every game that i like
On slow weeks i go back and play one
With this it takes up 10GB of space
On my year one PS3 i don't have room
PS For this price i can get 3D dot.
PPS Bet you need to be online to play this
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TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:40:06 PM
You'll need to be able to backup your existing drive first of course....
MysteriousMagus
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 5:39:10 PM
I only get 25 gb of allowance a month...
I don't think that at this point you can sell anything all downloadable content with that massive size in this country...
Hopefully we will get optic fibers in about 5 years... >__>
So what is this game about anyways?
Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:22:03 AM
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maxpontiac
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:42:58 AM
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:28:50 PM
Dude, I think you're being both short sighted and contradictory here. Games like Burnout Paradise and Warhawk have already sold on PSN for relatively full prices. WipeoutHD is another example. The full game downloads for PSP titles are yet another example.
I have not problem with this. If the game is worth a full $60 at retail and I can get a diskless version for $15 less, sign me up.
Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:33:01 PM
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:37:45 PM
Jawknee
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:51:20 PM
Also with this push for DRM by Capcom on PSN games, this makes me even less likely to buy digital games. What if i lose internet or its down and i want to play the game i paid Capcom for? i can't unless I'm signed into PSN. That to me seems like they are trying to sell you something without actually letting you own it. Going digital seems to have more benefits for the dev and less for their customers. It gives them an unfair advantage and i find that troublesome.
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:57:39 PM
That said, you do have to understand the reason. People are buying the game one time and abusing the multiple activations available by sharing the purchased game with others. Developers and publishers would not attempt to defend their rights if consumers didn't trample all over them. It's the bad apples that are spoiling the situation here.
Mamills
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:26:11 AM
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but then again I really have no interest nor do i even know anything about this game.
so i think that even if this is a test they are not using the right game.
i mean cmon im still pissed off, y does 360 have Episodes from liberty city cheaper than psn?
not only that
but if im handing out 50 bux, i better have a case with some pretty artwork on it.
i dunno id say test it on a game that a lot of people would actually want
WolfCrimson
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:27:11 AM
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BTNwarrior
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:32:53 AM
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maxpontiac
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:41:16 AM
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kraygen
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:44:55 AM
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I like rpgs, but I have played some bad ones and I'm not willing to risk it. I want my box and manual please.
FullmetalX10
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:06:08 PM
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FullmetalX10
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:18:20 PM
They show you gameplay, and then text: Wait, you didn't think we'd show you a trailer without any of this.
Next half of the trailer: hentai mixed with a bit of comedy :)
What more do you want.
A game with cool looking gameplay developed by devs who don't take themselves seriously.
All it needs is a PS3 disc-based version.
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:30:07 PM
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:31:41 PM
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This may be on my buy list, and the option to save $15 over a retail version definitely makes it an easier decision.
This looks like a bit of an SRPG wrapped up in visual fluff and candy. Nothing wrong with a bit of silly, pretty, whimsy in a game - is there? Might be quite refreshing after all the more 'realistic' RPGs with their surplus of brown, gray and green tones.
Last edited by TheHighlander on 4/28/2010 12:35:56 PM
rogers71
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:49:05 PM
I guess my biggest complaint with this whole situation lies in what could happen once everything starts going digital. I like the lower price point but if Capcom gets their way, we could see games that are tied to the specific PS3 that it was downloaded from. Therefore, if your PS3 craps out on you the game cannot be downloaded on a new PS3, a la Singstar songs. Not to mention that for some titles that are already out, you have to be signed in to the network to play them.
What happens if I buy a bunch of games and then for some unforeseen reason I have to get rid of internet service, say to save money. Then I have a bunch of games that I cannot play because I can't sign in. Of course, there are disc based games that require you to be signed in so this is an existing issue.
Then there is the troubling ISP caps that I keep seeing hints of. When millions of PS3 owners start hitting the ISP's with 10+ gb downloads every week, they will definitely see the potential for capital gain by capping the download limits.
I don't know. I am all for change but this just doesn't sit well with me and if these games start doing well, everyone is going to jump aboard. Then we will see everyone releasing DL only games. Just my opinion.
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:52:40 PM
rogers71
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 3:04:39 AM
TheHighlander
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 10:28:22 AM
whooka
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 12:37:11 PM
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coverton341
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 1:15:24 PM
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Highlander brings up a good point as to games on the PSN that are full games are already close to retail price, but honestly the highest I have seen a full PS3 game is 29.99 and that figure seems perfect to me and here is why:
1) There is no physical media meaning cost savings on pressing discs, cost savings on printing manuals, cost savings on packaging, and cost savings on shipping units to stores.
2) There is, as many people are stating, no way to trade this in and get money equalling cost savings on units lost to resale by vendors.
With all of these cost savings to the developer why then are we only seeing a $15 per unit decrease in price? Maybe if the savings on digital media were $25 per unit I could get behind it more but I will probably wait for a price drop if ever one should occur.
JackC8
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 1:22:04 PM
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I was actually looking forward to this, but if they're too damned cheap to put it on a disk like they did for 360 owners, then I think they run the risk of losing a ton of potential sales from people like me.
NightHawk17
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 1:38:52 PM
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But i think it isnt that wise to release psn only game like this i mean its 18 gb total, some people dont have that much room on their systems and a lot of people dont have access to credit cards or psn cards so they alienate consumers.
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 1:52:40 PM
Underdog15
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:15:00 PM
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Basically, no hard feelings, it just isn't practical in my case. Perhaps someday when I do get a larger gig system, I would consider it more seriously.
Last edited by Underdog15 on 4/28/2010 2:16:30 PM
just2skillf00l
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 2:29:36 PM
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Another problem with full PS3 games on the network is download times and the maximum memory capacity of your PS3. No one wants to download an 8-10 gig game because it will take at least a few hours even for the most promising network connections.
Also, people have music, videos, and photos stored on their ps3 (not to mention saved games as well as some game installs which can be very large for some titles) that already utilize a large portion of their PS3's maximum memory storage capacity.
However, I agree with Highlander about the pricing of these downloadable titles. If these titles are cut in price by $15-$20 without TAX, don't forget about that, isn't it worth paying for the DLG (downloadable game)? I mean in a sense, we are losing something tangible with DLG but we are also gaining an upper hand as to the amount we are dishing out for DLG titles as well. The question is, which is more important to you? A lower price tag, or maintaining tangible media?
BikerSaint
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 1:13:43 AM
Underdog15
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:11:13 PM
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LightShow
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:20:09 PM
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:35:38 PM
Sony might well consider that kind of approach in places where broadband availability and speed do not make full game downloads viable.
BikerSaint
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 1:16:28 AM
djduke316
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:42:49 PM
LightShow
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 8:57:44 PM
Sol
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 3:27:50 PM
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The point of all this: I'd still rather have the physical media in a case that I can put on a shelf and look at. I would never ENTIRELY support digital media unless I was born into it first and it was all I knew...
RebelJD
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:28:54 PM
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djduke316
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 4:40:10 PM
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PANICinc
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 5:03:38 PM
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It's so nice and convenient having EVERYTHING right there ready to go!
I love my PsPGO, and am getting ready to upgrade my 60 gig launch system to a TeraByte. Then I won't have much to worry about.
If only Sony would add support for stackable external HDD's.....
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:21:55 PM
TheHighlander
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:05:38 PM
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rogers71
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 3:08:13 AM
I will be awaiting your comment when that happens to you.
TheHighlander
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 10:33:59 AM
If managing the activations were made easier and more dynamic, then having a limited number of activations wouldn't be an issue, as long as the user can easily manage them.
rogers71
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 3:00:32 PM
I had to contact Sony and give them the whole layout of what happened and explain that I needed those systems deactivated. I asked them why they didn't put something in your account management that shows all systems that are activated for your account and let you manage it. They said that would never happen and they unlocked all my activations but told me they wouldn't do it again.
As for the rights being reduced from 5 to 3. Most games on the PSN have already done this. Maybe they will give us control someday but I doubt it.
BTW, it is not just Capcom that is using this idea. Singstar already locks their songs to the PS3 that it was dl'ed on and UNO on the PSN only works if you are logged in as the person who dl'ed it in the first place. I don't like that. Not at all.
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huh1678
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:12:06 PM
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piratedrunk
Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 11:15:30 PM
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___________
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 3:14:34 AM
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i mean the distribution costs, manufacturing costs, disk costs, cost of manual, case, printing and such surly would b3 saving them much more than that!
downloadable games should be minimum 30 bucks less than their disk based counterpart.
plus not to mention its a full based game, its on 360, all 360 games use dual layer disks, all dual layer disk 360 games are up in the region of 8GBs.
now who has 8 GBs to waste on one freaking game?
again, when are developers going to wake up and smell the beans?
not everyone lives in Japan with unlimited download usages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheHighlander
Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 10:36:12 AM
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Friday, April 30, 2010 @ 9:01:29 AM
its going to be hard for me to download a 8GB+ game when i have a download limit of 10 no?
1 game and ive barley got anything left to use for the month!
curse Australia and its ridiculously overpriced cable internet!!!
one thing i will never understand.
cable @ 1.4Mbps with cap of 10GBs = 120 bucks.
ADSL2+ @ 1.8MBps with cap of 500GBs = 80.
i thought you were suppose to pay less for less, not more for less!

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daizycutter
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Wednesday, April 28, 2010 @ 10:46:58 AM