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ECA Calls For Gamers To Assist And Defend The Industry

As gamers, its time to stand as one and make a confident, intelligent declaration of unity.

The Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA), a non-profit membership organization that represents gamers, has confirmed they will be submitting a "friend of the court document (amicus brief) to the U.S. Supreme Court regarding the upcoming violence in video games case, Schwarzenegger v EMA." To assist in the endeavor, the ECA has worked up a petition that just about every gamer should sign; this petition will be attached and submitted along with the aforementioned brief, so it will certainly have a very important purpose. Said Vice President and General Counsel for the ECA, Jennifer Mercurio:

"The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the State of California's infamous 'violent video game case' later this year, or early next. At that time, the Court is going to listen to oral arguments on whether to agree with previous federal court findings or not. Agreeing would mean that they believe that video games are, and should continue to be, First Amendment protected speech; just like movies and music. The Court disagreeing would mean that video games should be treated differently, which the ECA strongly believes to be unconstitutional and could lead to new bills and laws curtailing video game access in states across the country."

The petition "establishes an authoritative collective position by American consumers of interactive entertainment and it enshrines each and every signatory's participation in the court documents and records." ECA President Hal Halpin says this case may indeed be "the single most important challenge" the gaming industry has ever faced in the US, and that "anyone who cares about gaming should feel compelled to both sign the petition and encourage their friends and family to do similarly." So-

Sign The Petition Now

If you don't...I'll find you.

5/12/2010 9:00:10 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (143 posts)

eLLeJuss
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 9:55:02 PM
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I dont get whats going on. But whatever! I dont want Ben to hunt me down so ill petition. lol

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:32:26 PM

eLLeJuss,

Some self-appointed safety-nanny's want to take take away every American's personal rights, our personal liberties, our personal freedoms, and our personal right to the pursuit of happiness to play any video game that "THEY" alone deem violent.

If you're American and you put a high value to all those right's above like I do, then you need to act now & sign the petition ASAP, & then also pass it along to every other gamer you know.

For those of you that aren't in America, I still say, "show your support" for us by signing this petition too, if for no other reason other that if this freedom-busting bill get's passed, this could snow-ball into other countries too(I'm sure Australia's "no-18" Attorney General will be closely watch what happens to this bill too).


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Vitron
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:13:43 PM

aMEN bIKER

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Jawknee
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:48:11 PM

Amen.

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mustang750r
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:03:01 AM

I have no idea how I missed saying this but....

ROW ROW FIGHT DAH POWAH!!!

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:35:03 AM

I'm not American, but I will sign. Obviously, beyond just simply supporting my gaming brethren, this would have an impact on the gaming world as a whole since the US constitutes a huge portion of game sales.

I live just north of the border in Canada, and I would be daft to think that American policies on video games would not affect our access here... especially since the three main markets in terms of the way games are released are considered to be Japan, Europe, and North America. Canada and the US are the same market, more or less.

They don't need to ban particular games. They need to find better ways of informing parents what they're buying. Also, minor retailers pretty much never care about ratings. The store down the street from me rents out and sells M rated games to 13 year olds all the time. There's ratings, and people never pay attention. I know some parents out there don't care about getting their kid an R rated movie, but it's astonishing how many parents morally against R rated movies for kids will get their kid an M rated game...

Just sayin'...

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:48:49 PM

Can Anybody Please Send Me The Link So I Can Sign It Myself Please?
I Want To Keep VIOLENCE In Games Or GOW Would Be NOTHING w/Out VIOLENCE. My Ps3 Is My Happy Place.

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Vitron
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:30:16 PM

Dude, at least read the whole article before placing your comments.

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manofchao5
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 7:05:18 PM

" if you don't... i'll find you" lol love this sites humor

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 9:56:59 PM
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Did this earlier, like quick, fast, and in a mf'ing hurry too!!!

Last edited by BikerSaint on 5/12/2010 9:57:49 PM

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:54:58 AM

Love the new pic BikerSaint

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:01:29 PM
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I'm getting right to it! And I'll spread the word to my friends too!

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BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:21:10 PM

Dancemachine55,
That's demon Dog's new squeeze of the week,

Miss ThreeD Doggie heard that the PS3 was going 3D , so she just had to hooked herself up with Demon

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Dancemachine55
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 12:13:23 AM

LOL

Demon Dog found a techie. Good for him.

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piratedrunk
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:04:22 PM
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Signed. This would be absolutely absurd if they disagreed.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:10:44 PM
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You bet your sweet monkey ass I'm going to be signing this, the gaming world will not end while I'm around.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:31:45 PM

The world has spoken!!!

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I_defenestrate
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:04:51 AM

Considering that it ends with you, I would hope not!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:17:07 AM

That's why they'll hafta kill me!

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Qubex
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:23:32 AM

I am sure the majority of us here World, would never let you just die... defend the man with sword, so he will defend us...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:49:37 AM

They can take our lives, but they can never take our Gaming!

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:34:54 AM

The World is an awesome thing!!!

... but political, religious and parental groups may misconstrue your pic and think all gamers are sword wielding ninjas who hide behind virtual identities.

Silly politics...

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bridgera
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:11:42 PM
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Blocking content from video games definitely violates first ammendment rights. Not sure why they deserve any special treatment.

Ratings systems, restricted age selling, no problem, content blocked by law, that's a problem.

Will sign soon.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:44:51 AM

Good point.

If movies can get away with extreme realistic gore using actors and real people (and kids have even easier access to that than some video games), then why on this mixed up world we live in do video games get blamed when its violence is virtual and clearly artistic!?!?!?!

Movies are often times worse with violent content!!!! Saw! Hostel!!! Smoking Aces!!! Kill Bill!!! The Warriors!!!

How are they any different or better than its video game counterparts like Madworld? Or God of War? Or Gears of War? Or Ninja Gaiden? Or GTA? Or Manhunt?

If films like Saw and Hostel can make it out to cinemas and DVD, then why can't video games, restricted or not, make it onto store shelves either?

Ludicrous!!! Absurd!!! Baffling!!!

Politicians, mothers and religious figures still see video games as electronic children's toys, and we need to help them move out of that mind frame.

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ChesterT
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:12:31 PM
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NERD RAGE!!!!

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Bugzbunny109
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:16:02 PM
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No more video game oppression! *Does fist pump* :D

P.S. I filled form out.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:17:42 PM
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Alright, I signed it mother fackers. Now let's get some protesters outside that court room. Who can we surreptitiously put a Hitler mustache on?

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frylock25
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:45:59 PM

what about that baby hitler guy? hes perfect just maybe a bit young.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:21:45 PM
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The courts have been pretty good about free speech issues. I have faith they will make the right decision. The Elitists think they know best, Arnold can stick it....

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gumbi
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:26:06 PM
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unreal... games have a rating system, just like movies. wtf is the difference? why is this such a big deal? We really, badly, need to shed this whole 'video games are for little kids' stigma.

Violent games don't make people do violent things, violent people do violent things. games, movies, music, television... these media forms do NOT cause violence. If someone emulates video game violence it's not BECAUSE they saw it in a game, it's BECAUSE they ARE violent and could just as well have done something they saw on the news. I see way more horrific acts of violence on the daily news than I ever see in video games, and that sh*t is real! at least the stuff in games is fictional.

gah, i'm just getting angry now... petition signed!

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OtisFeelgood
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:10:50 AM

Are you turning green too? Are you going to be a Hulk/Gumby hybrid?! ;o

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gumbi
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 10:39:28 AM

haha, you wouldn't like me when i'm angry ;)

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:32:02 PM
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Wow. I just read the source article and I had no idea the gravity of this issue before I did so. Games not protected under the First Amendment!? This is an insult to thousands of artists and designers spread out across the world.
I couldn't believe anything like this would ever happen in today's world but I guess I was wrong. Back when fictional lieterature was first introduced, people thought it would rot your brain, and apparently today's society has just as dire a need for a scapegoat as they did in the past.
Vote this down like the plague, my friends. They want a war? We'll damn well give it to them. With our controllers in hand we will march, united, in the quest to end this preposterous legislation!

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:33:58 PM
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"Video games are bad for you? That's what they said about Rock 'N' Roll." -Shigeru Miyamoto.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:21:37 PM

I still remember that quote, from the Master of games himself...

So true!

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Highlander
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:02:43 PM
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Signed.

And if you don't sign, and Ben doesn't find you, TheHighlander will. And as we all know, TheHighlander is immortal...so no hiding from TheHighlander...there can be only one!

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King James
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:17:10 PM
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done.

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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:21:47 PM
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Done and I even posted the link to the petition on my facebook.

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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:41:33 PM

I've been posting the link everywhere on my FB page and have been sending the link to my PSN friends.

I want them... Scratch that! We NEED every gamer to know what's going on in the big world of ours.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:24:27 PM
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You guys remember my ideas for a Silent Hill sequel, right?

It goes a little something like this:

-New ways of killing enemies such as setting up traps (digging holes for them to fall in, drenching a room with gasoline and throwing a match in there when you lure a bunch of enemies, etc.)

*Using your portable radio to confuse the enemy (will cost you battery life though, so if you waste it you'll be clueless as to if there are enemies nearby). But this technique is deadly and will save you in the most dire situations

*Build weapons from stuff you find around the SH world (pipes, nails, etc.)

*co-op play in story mode (higher difficulty and insane teamwork stuff you could do)

-New kinds of enemies who will SLOWLY find you no matter where you are (they will keep following (depending on the area or building you are)

*Enemies which are only defeated with a combination of burning their skin with fire, and then stabbing or shooting them (overall more depth to how enemies are defeated)

etc.

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So make sure you sign this

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I_defenestrate
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:07:42 AM

*And bring Team Silent back.

You forgot one.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:48:20 AM

What about Metal Gear Sunny?

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sunspider13
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:51:07 AM

I like those ideas very much.

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Vitron
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:24:28 PM
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too bad I can't sign...

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FxTales
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:33:05 PM

Same here I woulda done it in a heart beat.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:36:12 PM

Why can't you sign?

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Gabriel013
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:12:09 AM

It says American Gamers only.

I was going to sign too.

Shame really as I think this is actually a global problem, just the first battle is on American soil.

I wouldn't want to do something 'morally' wrong and for that to somehow count against the case.

I wonder if I could get away with using the State my head office is located in :D

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Vitron
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:10:29 AM

But I'll support this activity in any way I can.

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FxTales
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:40:53 PM
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"If you’re an American gamer, and you care about gaming and your rights, stand up and be counted" Also it asks for your state and has an * beside it.

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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:42:26 PM

Do you have any fam here in the States?

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:56:45 PM

Mell,
I'd just pick a random state.....
(especially since we have 50 from which to chose from) LOL

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:59:18 PM

lol @ Biker

That works. lol

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FxTales
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:45:55 PM
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Wish I did it would be convenient right now. I don't know of any citizens either.

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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:58:06 PM

Well if you're ever playing online be sure to spread the word to any American gamers who are unaware of the situation.

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FxTales
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:10:13 AM
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hehe you reckon I'd get away with it if I tried? Oh I'll definitely spread the word. I'll do my part.

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dbyzforce
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:26:03 AM
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I would sign myself, but I don't think signatures from Canadian citizens count, or do they?

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gumbi
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:26:08 AM

Yes, the form accepts Canadian addresses. My province was listed in the dropdown and it asks for a ZIP/Postal Code. So sign away fellow canucks, sign away!

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coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:00:27 PM

You tricky Canadians slipping flawlessly into US society. Good on ya.

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just2skillf00l
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:36:30 AM
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I wrote this under the customize your personal message for the ECA petition.

This is quite a mouthful...for those who dare tread further...I appreciate it :)


Video games are a rather harmless hobby. Much like reading books, watching television, and listening to music. The harmful element engaged in all of these activities is the human mind. Video games are not without censors or age restrictions and regulations like many other mediums. Therefore, it is up to the companies that distribute and sell this delicate media to do so wisely and honorably.

Video games are created for visual and interactive entertainment. It is but a tool in the hands of an individual to receive some pleasure or harmless fun. Players are thrust into a fantasy world where reality is the distant and unknown land. Where the real becomes the fantasy.

It is quite clear that video games mean no harm. Quite simply, video games revisit many social, political, and even economic notions that exist and have existed throughout history. Some video games retell through fantastic worlds the corruption, the beauty, the order, and the chaos within reality and deploys it at its audience through an engaging and sometimes even heartfelt story-driven experience.

Like any novel, movie, or television show, (which tells a story of sorts) where there is good, there is also evil. Video games should not take the blame for evil doings that are prevalent in the real world.

Violence existed long before video games or even before medium's introduction. Violence is a part of the world as much as love or hate, good or evil, happiness or sadness. It exists because of individuality and seclusion. It exists because we are afraid of change, of differentiation, of the unknown. Video game are hardly the problem we should be examining. What we should be examining, is ourselves.

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Sol
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:39:44 AM
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Signed... if a major change like that occurs the industry may very well have recieved a devastating blow. I cannot have that.

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aaronisbla
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:44:01 AM
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Doing it now, would hate for Ben to toss my ass up a tree

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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:58:11 AM
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I am not American nor am I in the United States. But since I agree with what the petition is about, I posted the link on my Facebook wall for my American friends to read and (hopefully) sign. Best of luck to the ECA.

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BeezleDrop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:17:02 AM
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Singed that mother,

But seriously Bikersaint, you crazy man!

If you have kids and they are not old enough to tell the difference between GoW caliber violence and Sponge Bob Square pants just don't let them play those kinds of games. I am just saying, if you are not mature enough then don't play the violent games! Simple enough. Much appreciated for everyone else that has signed!

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Alienange
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:25:53 AM
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This is what Schwarzenegger spends him time doing? Seriously dude, if you have that much spare time on your hands, why not take up gaming?

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OriginalSin
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:45:57 AM
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The same here. I am not from America or Canada so I am unable to sign... But I fully agree and stand with you guys.

If the enforce their rating on you guys most developers will have to "change" the way the make games and that will in turn have an effect on gaming word wide...

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Vitron
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:49:33 AM

Heh, Gamers United huh?

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BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:47:07 AM
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Seems there's a problem on the the petition so non-USA folks can't sign it.

But, our non-American allied gamer friends can still help support the cause by emailing out the petition(see link below) to every gamer they know, and also put it on their FaceBook, MySpace, & Twitter accounts too....
(and for those of you who have already done so, then my "thanks" go out to you all)

Here's some useful ECA info.....

Email the petition out to other's from here:
http://action.theeca.com/t/2858/tellafriend.jsp?tell_a_friend_KEY=2999

FaceBook:
http://www.facebook.com/TheECA

MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/theeca

Twitter:
http://twitter.com/theeca

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WolfCrimson
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:13:45 AM
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...meh, can't really care. I don't care about what happens. There are bigger problems in the world. Besides, what good can a petition do? If facts point out that video games are harmful or harmless, where does the signatures of thousands of random people factor in? I am in no way an advocate of "majority rules", I see things for their pros and cons.

and lol @ BikerSaint's "freedom" speech, that was inspirational :D

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BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:50:00 AM

WolfCrimson,



Being a biker, it's all about my freedoms so I refuse to follow any tyrannical rules of our governmental sheep, & I've always been a freedomfighter against their meddling bullsh!t.

BTW, I did the same for my Australian brethren & rallied the troops right here for them too, vs that douchebag AG that held up R18+ vote.

So I don't just talk the talk, I walk the walk.

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WolfCrimson
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:14:48 AM

That's great, BikerSaint. But I didn't mean to imply that you don't walk the walk. I may have put the word 'freedom' in quotations, but I didn't mean it as sarcasm. Just that it made me imagine you sounded like an American leader or something.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:20:37 AM
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Well i'm not in America for one thiing, but more importantly, the game industry is not suffering, infact its better than its ever been!

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___________
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:30:43 AM
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just have to ask, why are games always considered the work of the devil?
i really dont get this, if movies and novels are protected by law than why not games?
its funny, every time something happened due to a game it gets posted all over the news like 911.
for example that idiot in NZ that went into a store and started waiving a fake gun around, advertising splinter cell conviction.
but you never hear about same things done for movies cartoon shows or anything else.
why are games always the scapegoat?
im sorry, but whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

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FxTales
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:10:59 AM

Lol omg I'm from NZ and I never heard about that. That's nuts.

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___________
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:19:30 AM

really? wow i was pissing myself laughing when i heard that.
the cops were ready to fill him with more holes than swiss cheese too.
hate to sound mean, but anyone dumb enough to pull off a stunt like that deserves to be shot.

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Fane1024
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:33:54 AM
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Signed.

The form does allow Canadian addresses, so they might be counting Canucks. I hope so, since my address is Canadian, but I'm still an American citizen and they had better count me.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:54:05 AM
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Signed.

And I'm not from the US. Some of you out there supported Australia's R18+ support vote (BTW, 56,000 said yes to an R18+ rating, 1500 said no) so I'm going to support you guys.

Here's hoping Australia does get an R18+ rating. Unfortunately it still isn't a big enough issue to warrent big attention from politicians, but it is looking promising.

Over 200 people dressed like zombies and marched outside the NSW Art Gallery in Sydney to support an R18+ rating and demand Left 4 Dead 2 be uncensored.

... It was so awesome it made the news on TV. Over 200 zombies marching around Sydney altogether. Was the best idea ever!!!

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RadioHeader
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:01:40 AM
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You tell 'em, Schwarzenegger! Video games without violence is like an 80's action movie without.... wait a minute.... he's on the other side? WTF?!

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Godslim
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:39:11 AM

that made me lol!

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Deleted User
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:38:16 AM
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DONE I Just signed it.

currenly playing
Ps3 - Heavy Rain finshed God of War III
360 - SplinterCell Conviction finshed Mass Effect 2

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tes37
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:18:03 AM
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I signed it. If Arnold Schwarzenegger doesn't like violent video games, then he should avoid playing them. Isn't California hard up for some cash? And Arnold's solution is to kill another source of tax income for his state.

He should first remove his violent movies and give all the money back that he made acting, then he won't look like a hypocrite.

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kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:20:28 AM
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Petition . . . Signed

Temperament . . . Angry

Blood . . . Boiling

Freedom to play games without censorship . . . Priceless!

That's right I said it and If I have to storm the steps of the capital waving an american flag while dressed as Kratos, I'll do that too.

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Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:57:18 AM

I would pay good money to get a photo of that.

Seriously, do it!!! It would look so awesome!!!

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fstop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:34:06 AM

I am so with Dancemachine55 on this one!
I'm a photographer and Graphic Designer. I can picture it already! (no pun intended)

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kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:06:10 PM

well, while I'd be willing to do it, it'd probably look better if it was someone who works out frequently. I don't ripple like kratos, maybe we could get Ben to do it too, I just think an average looking guy wouldn't really be impressive, but I think I could still frighten all the children.

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JackC8
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:55:41 AM
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Signed. I'm 45 years old, so this nonsense about video games poisoning my young mind is really ridiculous in my case. I always hear about the crap going on in Australia with games being banned, and absolutely don't want that rubbish repeated here.

I can't watch anything on TV because the shows are garbage and the commercials make everything unwatchable. So now they want to screw around with my video games? What am I supposed to do with my evenings, play Hannah freakin' Montana?

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:49:45 AM

I work at a youth centre and I've seen the latest Miley video. You don't want to do that. Trust me.

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kevinater321
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 7:39:30 AM
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Is this just in America?

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Imagi
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:18:38 AM

Yeah, this is, but it is one of those things that would effect all gamers in one way of another. I urge all that can do sign as it is one of those things that can get in and onto the books with ease, but is painfully hard to take off, especially if the god squad get behind it.

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fstop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:29:16 AM

Signed and sent it to like 10 other friends.
I'm in Toronto, Canada...don't know if it applies and really don't care I just to support the ECA.
Although, I do understand the arguments on both sides and find each argument compelling, as an avid gamer I can't sit back and watch the industry and gamers be treated like pre-school children who have no understanding of their favourite pass-time.
As a kid I watch Schwarzenegger exact unspeakable violence on his enemies, in all his movies. I saw him get shot with more bullets than anyone at the time. Hell, I used to pretend I was the Terminator exacting my own revenge on my own batch of enemies and...here it comes...I grew up fine!
Anyway, this is a fight that will go one for decades. In the mean time I will continue to thank mister Schwarzenegger for influencing all us kids who grew up loving him because whether he wants to believe it or not he inspired the creation of Kratos, Dante, Call of Duty, Metal Gear Solid...he has a direct hand in creating the violence he sees in video games and movies today just as much as the directors, writers, producers, the list goes on.

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:47:45 AM

Again, I don't know much about American politics, but in my own opinion, religion should have very little to do with games. I can understand an argument to better enforce who M and AO rated games are sold to, but to completely prevent every American from deciding from themselves is pretty crooked.

I mean, if you aren't going to do the same thing with movies and music (some of those rappers today are just BRUTAL with their lyrics!!), why video games?

Again, don't know much about American politics, but from a distance, it looks so silly that these people make such a big deal over the sale of violent video games when the same stores that sell games and movies sell actual real-life guns.

So... is the argument they are making that the movies they sell are just art or something, the guns are for protection, and the games will actually make you guys use the protective guns to do bad things? I'm not sure I understand which type of violence is good violence and which is bad...

So... yeah. I'll sign that petition.

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:36:00 AM
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I already said this in an earlier reply, but I'll say it again in my very own post...

I live just north of the border in Canada, and I would be daft to think that American policies on video games would not affect our access here... especially since the three main markets in terms of the way games are released are considered to be Japan, Europe, and North America. Canada and the US are the same market, more or less.

They don't need to ban particular games. They need to find better ways of informing parents what they're buying. Also, minor retailers pretty much never care about ratings. The store down the street from me rents out and sells M rated games to 13 year olds all the time. There's ratings, and people never pay attention. I know some parents out there don't care about getting their kid an R rated movie, but it's astonishing how many parents morally against R rated movies for kids will get their kid an M rated game...

Just sayin'...

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kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:11:27 PM

I couldn't agree more, instead of banning games for everyone because you're a bad parent, wake up and be a good parent.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:30:37 PM

My new slogan...

"Don't ban our games....ban the bad parents"

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FullmetalX10
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:38:24 AM
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I don't think I can sign it, since I'm not from America, and they kinda point out it's for Americans, by saying things as: "We, the undersigned American video game consumers" < see American.
I'd gladly use my fake information, if that would make y'all happy, just say the word.

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fstop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:02:38 AM

If I had the power, I would soooo convert the Canadian signers to American.
I would lie, cheat and steal, just like the politicians, to get what I want.
Let's even out the playing field here.

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:07:23 AM

Canadians CAN vote. They even give you the option to select your province on the drop down menu. They also say "Zip/Postal Code".

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 12:24:24 PM

It's just that I'm European...

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FatherSun
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:59:28 AM
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This is an outrage! I would love to have the resources to be at that hearing with an 18-wheeler with a movie screen showing Terminator, and any other argh-nuld movies with displays of violence.

This is just another attempt to remove the responsibility from the true sources of violence in the world today. Blame video games! Its preposterous. I take responsibly for my children by explaining how the world works to them. I dont just lock them in a room with explicit games, movies, books or internet access and just hope that they can some how sort out the madness.

I Love my country but jeesh.. There are just do many loopholes in or Constitution and especially the U.S. CODE. Which is what lawyers use to worm through our laws like a game of twister.

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shaydey77
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:02:58 AM
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im with fullmetalx10.

i have no bother faking it but don't want to do so if it hurts the case.

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:05:44 AM
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Just got done signing it. For being a non-profit organization, they sure do set a price to be a part of their group.

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:11:24 AM

Not-for-profit doesn't mean no one makes a living from the organization. I work for a non-profit and I make a salary. It simply means the organization is not profitable. The YMCA is a not-for-profit, for example, but they have membership fees, costs, etc. The monies made typically go towards growing, strengthening, and supporting the organization so it can meet it's goals.

Basically, a non-profit has employees on payroll, but the goals and objectives set to serve the demographic they aim to serve never change since profitability is always secondary and not the primary focus. Advocacy is typically number one.

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sunspider13
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:11:29 AM
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Signed

I really can't believe that this is going to the Supreme Court *sigh*. Is it really that hard for parents to LOOK at the rating THAT IS ON THE FRONT AND BACK OF THE GAME?

When I worked at EB, if some parent came in and was going to buy some M rated game, I would strike up a conversation about what the game was about and what type of violence was depicted in the game. I would show them the ratings system and so-on and so-forth, so they could be more informed consumers. I had so many parents thank me for letting them know what they were buying and for helping them understand the ratings.

Started doing this because one of my co-workers decided to sell a copy of GTA:San Andreas to a guy which ended up being for his 10 year old son. My manager and I got his wrath the next day when he came in to complain and exchange the game. In turn my manager gave my co-worker HIS wrath and fired him. Fun day.

I find it absurd that games aren't protected free speech. Wonders never cease. The First Amendment FTW.

EDIT:
@Ben
no throwing guys in trees, lol.

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:16:38 AM

Those founding father guys should have put in a clause for video games. What were they thinking leaving that out, eh?

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:48:45 AM

They did, its the First Amendment. I'm sure the courts will come down on the side of Free Speech. They usually do.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 12:29:51 AM

Seriously?? Are parents that ignorant and dumb!?!?!

GTA San Andreas has pictures of gangsters, hoodlums, guns, people smoking, a prostitute and in big letters in the centre GRAND THEFT AUTO!!!!

How on this incredibly dumb earth could anyone pick that up and see it's ok for their 10 year old to play?!?!?!

I just cannot get over the stupidity and ignorance of parents these days. It really is unbelievable!!!

I work at EB Games, our ratings system has recently become colour coded, eg G games are green, PG is yellow, M is blue, MA15+ is red and R18+ is black. (R18+ for movies and magazines at least, still not on games)

I see a lot of children grab GTA and take it up to their parents. Many parents say no, and are aware of the ratings system (thank God!!), but now and then some parents just slap it on the counter not even checking the content. It is then up to me to talk them through what is actually IN the game.

I always get a laugh and smile whenever I see the parent reject the game and the kid start kicking and screaming for GTA. It did happen once.

I love rejecting kids from GTA. Makes me feel powerful.

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Robochic
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:31:25 AM
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so when in the States are they going to be strict on CNN. CNN doesn't have ESRB rating do they now maybe they should. I get frustrated when something like video games or even certain tv shows get attacked by stupid polticians but hey it's ok to watch the hanging of someone on tv no matter what time of the day, or watch the after math of a road side bomb?

The other thing is ESRB rating or any rating system for movies, video games are all over the place if parents can't be responsible enough to read the stupid thing then they are not responsible to be a parent.

Ok rant is over, Oh I signed.

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:51:34 AM

Good point. I've seen worse violence on CNN. They've actually air footage of US troops being Sniped. Yet i have a feeling they wouldn't object to this.

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Kingharris
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:45:09 AM
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Hmm, im not American but i'll sign as I see the bigger implication if this whole situation passed. So it would mean that American developers would censor they're games such as Dead Space and say British developers such as Rockstar North could still be free to make they're games but would need to limit anything violent for the North American Release?

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Vitron
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:51:14 AM
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Done... I signed and sinned just for you guys, I mean , us.

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Aerifale
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:22:29 AM
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Should I sign this if I'm not American?

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:50:14 AM

No. Send it the link to your American friends.

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little dreamer
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:47:12 AM
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FIGHT THE POWER!!
Signed.

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swapnilgyani
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:01:41 AM
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"And Rohan will answer"

On a serious note, everybody who's even remotely interested in gaming should sign it, regardless of where they live. If this nonsense is allowed to prevail, it will have far reaching consequences, and will be a huge setback to the gaming industry and enthusiasts.

And in a broader sense, this is about my freedom of choice. As a governing body of any sort, tell me that XYZ is bad for me, but leave it up to me to choose.

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tazbrat
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:14:11 AM
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Schwarzenegger has to be stopped, his movies were some of the most violent and bloody and yet he says video games are are bad? I think he's just a Kennedy puppet or a hypocrite...

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:38:31 AM

Actually his movies weren't that "bloody". I've seen just about every movie hes made and there are plenty of games that are worse then any of the movies hes made. I'm not taking his side on this issue, but you have to be fair.

Hes not a Kennedy puppet either, just a failed Governor.

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Zorigo
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:38:49 AM
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Is it me or is it not for the UK.
and isn't ironic that Arny is against violence.
has he seen terminator?

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Gone
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:43:13 AM
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I will sign it, because I don't want Ben to push me into a tree.

"In the end there will be only chaos."

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WolfCrimson
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 7:51:16 AM

Stanley!

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:43:14 AM
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Note to those who want to sign outside the US. They will be able to trace the address and they will verify them. I understand you guys want to help but pretending your in the US to sign is counter productive. They will find out who and who isn't in the US and throw the signatures out that aren't.

The best way to help is to do what one of the other posters did and link it to your social networking pages for your US friends to see.

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:51:57 PM

Why would they let Canadians sign it as well? The drop down menu actually has Canadian provinces mixed in with states, and it asks for your Zip/Postal Code.

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:24:01 PM

Oh nice, i didn't know that. I didn't look to hard in the drop down box as my state is in the top choices. If its letting Canadians sign then sign away. The more the better.

Not sure how this Legislation directly affects Canada at this stage though.

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Nynja
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:44:54 AM
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Done.

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nogoat23
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:15:23 PM
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Signed.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:49:21 PM
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Does anyone else think it's at all ironic that we're going against Aah-nold, the man who presented the viewing public with some of the most violent pieces of entertainment on earth? Especially at the time they released...?

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PANICinc
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:54:33 PM

Definitely Ironic!!
The Terminator has gotten soft!!

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coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:01:55 PM

I think it's ironic that the people in my state voted for this guy. Actually not ironic really just sad. If I star in a bunch of violent films can I be governor too?

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Gone
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:59:54 PM

I guess steroids and weed cause memory lose, because he forgot that he did so many violent movies.

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PANICinc
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:53:21 PM
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Signed, linked to facebook, and joined.

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:09:12 PM
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Lets hope this goes the to court before the latest pick for the Supreme Court gets confirmed and seated. Elana Kagen is no friend of free speech.

Elections have consequences.

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kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:24:33 PM
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I'd just like to point out that you shouldn't just be sending this to gamers but to everyone. If the first amendment is allowed to be broken for video games then it will open the door for them to take away our freedom to speech in other areas.

What can be broken once can be broken again. Once they start censoring one thing, they'll start censoring more.

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Gone
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:18:32 PM
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What next, will we have to register as being a gamer and show our Gamer ID to buy games?

DOG = Department of Gaming

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:28:37 PM

I wouldn't put it past them. Big brother is bigger then ever and is growing at an alarming rate.

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thj_1980
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:28:08 PM
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Reason why this is happening is because stupid kid wannabes' are running around with kitchen knives acting like some russian dude stealing cars and killing people to save his fat cousin.


LOL we live in such a desperate and sad world.

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sirbob6
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:13:57 PM
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Signed... Freedom!!!

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shadowscorpio
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:14:14 PM
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Sorry I'm late to the parade.

Just ludicris.

Signed.

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bearbobby
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:14:14 PM
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Tryin' to take away violence in my games?!!!

Urge to kill... rising...

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SolidFantasy
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:35:24 PM
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It's so easy to contribute to this cause. There is no reason why any gamer shouldn't.

WE CAN'T LET THEM WIN!!!
TO HELL WITH CENSORSHIP LAWS!!
GO FIRST AMENDMENT !!

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Lairfan
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:10:24 PM
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Signed.

Simply put, games have come a long way in terms of maturity since Mario, and to see us backtrack with an anti-First Amendment ruling by the Supreme Court would be a terrible thing, not just for this country but for every other country around the world. Its high time that people learned that video games are not just kids toys anymore, they are an art form and they have a substantial mature audience that plays them now.

Also, the parents who can't see the gigantic M rating on the front of the box and the description of it on the back of the box, and still buy the game for their 7-year old kid are complete idiots. Seriously, the ratings on games are in huge bold print, and the descriptions on the back are clearly visible. How the hell can anyone, other than blind people, miss them?

Oh, and one last thing: why Arnie, why? You used to be one of the coolest action movie stars ever! Now you're just a steroid-addled softie who supports the idiot anti-game nuts. Funny what being Governator of Cal-ee-fornia can do to you, huh?

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BikerSaint
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 12:48:21 AM
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If these morals-mouthing mental-midgets had already gotten their way, we would've never had the chance to experience such a innovative ground-breaking game as "Heavy Rain".

And I can think of something a hell of a lot useful for them to do with themselves, like......

....starting a prison-based Barney & Mr. Rogers sing-a-long choir for violent schizophrenic father-rapers.

But, fair warning.... don't sing off-key or the inmate's next song just might be "My Bologna has a first name"


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MrAnonymity
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:21:22 AM
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Signed and word spread!

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S8N_666
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:40:41 AM
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The Terminator can go Fk himself!

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 3:05:26 PM
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Damn, years ago I heard some s*** on the news some kid was playing GTA San Andreas then some time after he went out with a weapon and killed some people. There r more ugly s*** going on in this world to pay attention more. Gaming is gaming, leave it alone.

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PaiNT_kinG
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:06:10 AM
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*signed ^_^

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