ECA Calls For Gamers To Assist And Defend The Industry
As gamers, its time to stand as one and make a confident, intelligent declaration of unity.
The Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA), a non-profit membership organization that represents gamers, has confirmed they will be submitting a "friend of the court document (amicus brief) to the U.S. Supreme Court regarding the upcoming violence in video games case, Schwarzenegger v EMA." To assist in the endeavor, the ECA has worked up a petition that just about every gamer should sign; this petition will be attached and submitted along with the aforementioned brief, so it will certainly have a very important purpose. Said Vice President and General Counsel for the ECA, Jennifer Mercurio:
"The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the State of California's infamous 'violent video game case' later this year, or early next. At that time, the Court is going to listen to oral arguments on whether to agree with previous federal court findings or not. Agreeing would mean that they believe that video games are, and should continue to be, First Amendment protected speech; just like movies and music. The Court disagreeing would mean that video games should be treated differently, which the ECA strongly believes to be unconstitutional and could lead to new bills and laws curtailing video game access in states across the country."
The petition "establishes an authoritative collective position by American consumers of interactive entertainment and it enshrines each and every signatory's participation in the court documents and records." ECA President Hal Halpin says this case may indeed be "the single most important challenge" the gaming industry has ever faced in the US, and that "anyone who cares about gaming should feel compelled to both sign the petition and encourage their friends and family to do similarly." So-
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5/12/2010 9:00:10 PM Ben Dutka
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BikerSaint
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:32:26 PM
Some self-appointed safety-nanny's want to take take away every American's personal rights, our personal liberties, our personal freedoms, and our personal right to the pursuit of happiness to play any video game that "THEY" alone deem violent.
If you're American and you put a high value to all those right's above like I do, then you need to act now & sign the petition ASAP, & then also pass it along to every other gamer you know.
For those of you that aren't in America, I still say, "show your support" for us by signing this petition too, if for no other reason other that if this freedom-busting bill get's passed, this could snow-ball into other countries too(I'm sure Australia's "no-18" Attorney General will be closely watch what happens to this bill too).
mustang750r
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:03:01 AM
Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:35:03 AM
I live just north of the border in Canada, and I would be daft to think that American policies on video games would not affect our access here... especially since the three main markets in terms of the way games are released are considered to be Japan, Europe, and North America. Canada and the US are the same market, more or less.
They don't need to ban particular games. They need to find better ways of informing parents what they're buying. Also, minor retailers pretty much never care about ratings. The store down the street from me rents out and sells M rated games to 13 year olds all the time. There's ratings, and people never pay attention. I know some parents out there don't care about getting their kid an R rated movie, but it's astonishing how many parents morally against R rated movies for kids will get their kid an M rated game...
Just sayin'...
Killa Tequilla
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:48:49 PM
Vitron
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:30:16 PM
manofchao5
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 7:05:18 PM
BikerSaint
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 9:56:59 PM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:21:10 PM
Dancemachine55
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 12:13:23 AM
piratedrunk
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:04:22 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:10:44 PM
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I_defenestrate
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:04:51 AM
Qubex
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:23:32 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:49:37 AM
Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:34:54 AM
Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:44:51 AM
If movies can get away with extreme realistic gore using actors and real people (and kids have even easier access to that than some video games), then why on this mixed up world we live in do video games get blamed when its violence is virtual and clearly artistic!?!?!?!
Movies are often times worse with violent content!!!! Saw! Hostel!!! Smoking Aces!!! Kill Bill!!! The Warriors!!!
How are they any different or better than its video game counterparts like Madworld? Or God of War? Or Gears of War? Or Ninja Gaiden? Or GTA? Or Manhunt?
If films like Saw and Hostel can make it out to cinemas and DVD, then why can't video games, restricted or not, make it onto store shelves either?
Ludicrous!!! Absurd!!! Baffling!!!
Politicians, mothers and religious figures still see video games as electronic children's toys, and we need to help them move out of that mind frame.
Bugzbunny109
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:16:02 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:17:42 PM
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frylock25
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:45:59 PM
gumbi
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:26:06 PM
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Violent games don't make people do violent things, violent people do violent things. games, movies, music, television... these media forms do NOT cause violence. If someone emulates video game violence it's not BECAUSE they saw it in a game, it's BECAUSE they ARE violent and could just as well have done something they saw on the news. I see way more horrific acts of violence on the daily news than I ever see in video games, and that sh*t is real! at least the stuff in games is fictional.
gah, i'm just getting angry now... petition signed!
OtisFeelgood
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:10:50 AM
Kowhoho
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 10:32:02 PM
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I couldn't believe anything like this would ever happen in today's world but I guess I was wrong. Back when fictional lieterature was first introduced, people thought it would rot your brain, and apparently today's society has just as dire a need for a scapegoat as they did in the past.
Vote this down like the plague, my friends. They want a war? We'll damn well give it to them. With our controllers in hand we will march, united, in the quest to end this preposterous legislation!
Last edited by Kowhoho on 5/12/2010 10:33:45 PM
Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:21:37 PM
Highlander
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:02:43 PM
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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:21:47 PM
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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:41:33 PM
Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:24:27 PM
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It goes a little something like this:
-New ways of killing enemies such as setting up traps (digging holes for them to fall in, drenching a room with gasoline and throwing a match in there when you lure a bunch of enemies, etc.)
*Using your portable radio to confuse the enemy (will cost you battery life though, so if you waste it you'll be clueless as to if there are enemies nearby). But this technique is deadly and will save you in the most dire situations
*Build weapons from stuff you find around the SH world (pipes, nails, etc.)
*co-op play in story mode (higher difficulty and insane teamwork stuff you could do)
-New kinds of enemies who will SLOWLY find you no matter where you are (they will keep following (depending on the area or building you are)
*Enemies which are only defeated with a combination of burning their skin with fire, and then stabbing or shooting them (overall more depth to how enemies are defeated)
etc.
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So make sure you sign this
I_defenestrate
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:07:42 AM
FxTales
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:33:05 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:36:12 PM
Gabriel013
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:12:09 AM
I was going to sign too.
Shame really as I think this is actually a global problem, just the first battle is on American soil.
I wouldn't want to do something 'morally' wrong and for that to somehow count against the case.
I wonder if I could get away with using the State my head office is located in :D
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Vitron
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:10:29 AM
mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:42:26 PM
BikerSaint
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:56:45 PM
I'd just pick a random state.....
(especially since we have 50 from which to chose from) LOL
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming
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mustang750r
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 @ 11:58:06 PM
gumbi
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:26:08 AM
coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:00:27 PM
just2skillf00l
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:36:30 AM
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This is quite a mouthful...for those who dare tread further...I appreciate it :)
Video games are a rather harmless hobby. Much like reading books, watching television, and listening to music. The harmful element engaged in all of these activities is the human mind. Video games are not without censors or age restrictions and regulations like many other mediums. Therefore, it is up to the companies that distribute and sell this delicate media to do so wisely and honorably.
Video games are created for visual and interactive entertainment. It is but a tool in the hands of an individual to receive some pleasure or harmless fun. Players are thrust into a fantasy world where reality is the distant and unknown land. Where the real becomes the fantasy.
It is quite clear that video games mean no harm. Quite simply, video games revisit many social, political, and even economic notions that exist and have existed throughout history. Some video games retell through fantastic worlds the corruption, the beauty, the order, and the chaos within reality and deploys it at its audience through an engaging and sometimes even heartfelt story-driven experience.
Like any novel, movie, or television show, (which tells a story of sorts) where there is good, there is also evil. Video games should not take the blame for evil doings that are prevalent in the real world.
Violence existed long before video games or even before medium's introduction. Violence is a part of the world as much as love or hate, good or evil, happiness or sadness. It exists because of individuality and seclusion. It exists because we are afraid of change, of differentiation, of the unknown. Video game are hardly the problem we should be examining. What we should be examining, is ourselves.
aaronisbla
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:44:01 AM
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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:58:11 AM
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BeezleDrop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:17:02 AM
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But seriously Bikersaint, you crazy man!
If you have kids and they are not old enough to tell the difference between GoW caliber violence and Sponge Bob Square pants just don't let them play those kinds of games. I am just saying, if you are not mature enough then don't play the violent games! Simple enough. Much appreciated for everyone else that has signed!
OriginalSin
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:45:57 AM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:47:07 AM
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But, our non-American allied gamer friends can still help support the cause by emailing out the petition(see link below) to every gamer they know, and also put it on their FaceBook, MySpace, & Twitter accounts too....
(and for those of you who have already done so, then my "thanks" go out to you all)
Here's some useful ECA info.....
Email the petition out to other's from here:
http://action.theeca.com/t/2858/tellafriend.jsp?tell_a_friend_KEY=2999
FaceBook:
http://www.facebook.com/TheECA
MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/theeca
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/theeca
WolfCrimson
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:13:45 AM
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and lol @ BikerSaint's "freedom" speech, that was inspirational :D
BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:50:00 AM
Being a biker, it's all about my freedoms so I refuse to follow any tyrannical rules of our governmental sheep, & I've always been a freedomfighter against their meddling bullsh!t.
BTW, I did the same for my Australian brethren & rallied the troops right here for them too, vs that douchebag AG that held up R18+ vote.
So I don't just talk the talk, I walk the walk.
WolfCrimson
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:14:48 AM
Ultimadream
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:20:37 AM
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___________
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:30:43 AM
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i really dont get this, if movies and novels are protected by law than why not games?
its funny, every time something happened due to a game it gets posted all over the news like 911.
for example that idiot in NZ that went into a store and started waiving a fake gun around, advertising splinter cell conviction.
but you never hear about same things done for movies cartoon shows or anything else.
why are games always the scapegoat?
im sorry, but whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
FxTales
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:10:59 AM
___________
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:19:30 AM
Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:54:05 AM
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And I'm not from the US. Some of you out there supported Australia's R18+ support vote (BTW, 56,000 said yes to an R18+ rating, 1500 said no) so I'm going to support you guys.
Here's hoping Australia does get an R18+ rating. Unfortunately it still isn't a big enough issue to warrent big attention from politicians, but it is looking promising.
Over 200 people dressed like zombies and marched outside the NSW Art Gallery in Sydney to support an R18+ rating and demand Left 4 Dead 2 be uncensored.
... It was so awesome it made the news on TV. Over 200 zombies marching around Sydney altogether. Was the best idea ever!!!
RadioHeader
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:01:40 AM
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Deleted User
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:38:16 AM
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tes37
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:18:03 AM
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He should first remove his violent movies and give all the money back that he made acting, then he won't look like a hypocrite.
Dancemachine55
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:57:18 AM
fstop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:34:06 AM
kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:06:10 PM
JackC8
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:55:41 AM
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I can't watch anything on TV because the shows are garbage and the commercials make everything unwatchable. So now they want to screw around with my video games? What am I supposed to do with my evenings, play Hannah freakin' Montana?
Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:49:45 AM
Imagi
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:18:38 AM
fstop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:29:16 AM
I'm in Toronto, Canada...don't know if it applies and really don't care I just to support the ECA.
Although, I do understand the arguments on both sides and find each argument compelling, as an avid gamer I can't sit back and watch the industry and gamers be treated like pre-school children who have no understanding of their favourite pass-time.
As a kid I watch Schwarzenegger exact unspeakable violence on his enemies, in all his movies. I saw him get shot with more bullets than anyone at the time. Hell, I used to pretend I was the Terminator exacting my own revenge on my own batch of enemies and...here it comes...I grew up fine!
Anyway, this is a fight that will go one for decades. In the mean time I will continue to thank mister Schwarzenegger for influencing all us kids who grew up loving him because whether he wants to believe it or not he inspired the creation of Kratos, Dante, Call of Duty, Metal Gear Solid...he has a direct hand in creating the violence he sees in video games and movies today just as much as the directors, writers, producers, the list goes on.
Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:47:45 AM
I mean, if you aren't going to do the same thing with movies and music (some of those rappers today are just BRUTAL with their lyrics!!), why video games?
Again, don't know much about American politics, but from a distance, it looks so silly that these people make such a big deal over the sale of violent video games when the same stores that sell games and movies sell actual real-life guns.
So... is the argument they are making that the movies they sell are just art or something, the guns are for protection, and the games will actually make you guys use the protective guns to do bad things? I'm not sure I understand which type of violence is good violence and which is bad...
So... yeah. I'll sign that petition.
Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:36:00 AM
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I live just north of the border in Canada, and I would be daft to think that American policies on video games would not affect our access here... especially since the three main markets in terms of the way games are released are considered to be Japan, Europe, and North America. Canada and the US are the same market, more or less.
They don't need to ban particular games. They need to find better ways of informing parents what they're buying. Also, minor retailers pretty much never care about ratings. The store down the street from me rents out and sells M rated games to 13 year olds all the time. There's ratings, and people never pay attention. I know some parents out there don't care about getting their kid an R rated movie, but it's astonishing how many parents morally against R rated movies for kids will get their kid an M rated game...
Just sayin'...
kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:11:27 PM
BikerSaint
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:30:37 PM
FullmetalX10
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:38:24 AM
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fstop
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:02:38 AM
Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:07:23 AM
FatherSun
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:59:28 AM
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This is just another attempt to remove the responsibility from the true sources of violence in the world today. Blame video games! Its preposterous. I take responsibly for my children by explaining how the world works to them. I dont just lock them in a room with explicit games, movies, books or internet access and just hope that they can some how sort out the madness.
I Love my country but jeesh.. There are just do many loopholes in or Constitution and especially the U.S. CODE. Which is what lawyers use to worm through our laws like a game of twister.
DeathOfChaos
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:05:44 AM
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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:11:24 AM
Basically, a non-profit has employees on payroll, but the goals and objectives set to serve the demographic they aim to serve never change since profitability is always secondary and not the primary focus. Advocacy is typically number one.
sunspider13
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:11:29 AM
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I really can't believe that this is going to the Supreme Court *sigh*. Is it really that hard for parents to LOOK at the rating THAT IS ON THE FRONT AND BACK OF THE GAME?
When I worked at EB, if some parent came in and was going to buy some M rated game, I would strike up a conversation about what the game was about and what type of violence was depicted in the game. I would show them the ratings system and so-on and so-forth, so they could be more informed consumers. I had so many parents thank me for letting them know what they were buying and for helping them understand the ratings.
Started doing this because one of my co-workers decided to sell a copy of GTA:San Andreas to a guy which ended up being for his 10 year old son. My manager and I got his wrath the next day when he came in to complain and exchange the game. In turn my manager gave my co-worker HIS wrath and fired him. Fun day.
I find it absurd that games aren't protected free speech. Wonders never cease. The First Amendment FTW.
EDIT:
@Ben
no throwing guys in trees, lol.
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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:16:38 AM
Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:48:45 AM
Dancemachine55
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 12:29:51 AM
GTA San Andreas has pictures of gangsters, hoodlums, guns, people smoking, a prostitute and in big letters in the centre GRAND THEFT AUTO!!!!
How on this incredibly dumb earth could anyone pick that up and see it's ok for their 10 year old to play?!?!?!
I just cannot get over the stupidity and ignorance of parents these days. It really is unbelievable!!!
I work at EB Games, our ratings system has recently become colour coded, eg G games are green, PG is yellow, M is blue, MA15+ is red and R18+ is black. (R18+ for movies and magazines at least, still not on games)
I see a lot of children grab GTA and take it up to their parents. Many parents say no, and are aware of the ratings system (thank God!!), but now and then some parents just slap it on the counter not even checking the content. It is then up to me to talk them through what is actually IN the game.
I always get a laugh and smile whenever I see the parent reject the game and the kid start kicking and screaming for GTA. It did happen once.
I love rejecting kids from GTA. Makes me feel powerful.
Last edited by Dancemachine55 on 5/14/2010 12:31:59 AM
Robochic
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:31:25 AM
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The other thing is ESRB rating or any rating system for movies, video games are all over the place if parents can't be responsible enough to read the stupid thing then they are not responsible to be a parent.
Ok rant is over, Oh I signed.
Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:51:34 AM
Kingharris
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:45:09 AM
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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:50:14 AM
little dreamer
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:47:12 AM
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swapnilgyani
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:01:41 AM
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On a serious note, everybody who's even remotely interested in gaming should sign it, regardless of where they live. If this nonsense is allowed to prevail, it will have far reaching consequences, and will be a huge setback to the gaming industry and enthusiasts.
And in a broader sense, this is about my freedom of choice. As a governing body of any sort, tell me that XYZ is bad for me, but leave it up to me to choose.
Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:38:31 AM
Hes not a Kennedy puppet either, just a failed Governor.
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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:43:14 AM
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The best way to help is to do what one of the other posters did and link it to your social networking pages for your US friends to see.
Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:51:57 PM
Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:24:01 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:49:21 PM
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PANICinc
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:54:33 PM
coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:01:55 PM
Gone
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:59:54 PM
kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:24:33 PM
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What can be broken once can be broken again. Once they start censoring one thing, they'll start censoring more.
Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:28:37 PM
sha4dowknight05
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:28:08 PM
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shadowscorpio
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:14:14 PM
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SolidFantasy
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:35:24 PM
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Lairfan
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:10:24 PM
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Simply put, games have come a long way in terms of maturity since Mario, and to see us backtrack with an anti-First Amendment ruling by the Supreme Court would be a terrible thing, not just for this country but for every other country around the world. Its high time that people learned that video games are not just kids toys anymore, they are an art form and they have a substantial mature audience that plays them now.
Also, the parents who can't see the gigantic M rating on the front of the box and the description of it on the back of the box, and still buy the game for their 7-year old kid are complete idiots. Seriously, the ratings on games are in huge bold print, and the descriptions on the back are clearly visible. How the hell can anyone, other than blind people, miss them?
Oh, and one last thing: why Arnie, why? You used to be one of the coolest action movie stars ever! Now you're just a steroid-addled softie who supports the idiot anti-game nuts. Funny what being Governator of Cal-ee-fornia can do to you, huh?
BikerSaint
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 12:48:21 AM
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And I can think of something a hell of a lot useful for them to do with themselves, like......
....starting a prison-based Barney & Mr. Rogers sing-a-long choir for violent schizophrenic father-rapers.
But, fair warning.... don't sing off-key or the inmate's next song just might be "My Bologna has a first name"
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