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White Knight Chronicles 2 To Feature Updated Original?

Wow, if this is true and everything works out, let's hope more publishers decide to treat the release of sequels in this way.

"Bang for your buck" is always a concern for most gaming consumers, and maybe that's why Level 5 wishes to get on your good side: according to Andriasang, it appears they will include an updated version of the original White Knight Chronicles in the box with the sequel. This would be just plain awesome and it makes sense, too, as WKC2 is a true follow-up story and takes place one year after the events of the first title. The info comes from "officially distributed materials" so we're all hoping it's reliable and furthermore, Game Jouhou is reporting that another retailer says the version of WKC featured with the sequel "will be updated to White Knight 2 specifications in terms of gameplay and mechanics." So in other words, you'll be looking at the complete saga with the same mechanics throughout; a simply grand idea that, if utilized in other sequel projects, would make many a gamer very, very happy. Imagine if Naughty Dog had released Uncharted 2: Among Thieves with Uncharted: Drake's Fortune; same price, and the original game would be upgraded to play just like the sequel...how freakin' cool would that be?

Take any series and apply this idea to it, and I can pretty much guarantee it's a win-win situation, provided the publisher doesn't decide to charge $100 for it, or something.

Related Game(s): White Knight Chronicles 2

5/13/2010 10:22:33 AM Ben Dutka

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Highlander
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:38:22 AM
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This is such a great idea. WKC2 was already on my immediate purchase list, it's going to leap to the top of the pre-order list once this feature is officially announced.

Oh, can you imagine the collector's edition version of this baby?

Uncharted 2 already did this a little bit - sort of - with the Uncharted 1 DLC. Suddenly there is a spark of hope in my mind... Could Naughty Dog consider doing a Uncharted Trilogy pack with Uncharted 3 bundled with Uncharted 1 & 2 both using the Uncharted 3 graphics engine? That would be an easy buy, even though I already have the first two games.

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:58:11 AM

my gf only has the second one, but I'd buy Uncharted 3 if they did that most definitly!! More games do need to do something like that, especially a game with an on going story that spans between sequals. I would say imagine Twisted Metal, but that's a lot more games, lol. Well, they could package all the old ones and Twisted Metal Black on 1 Bluray discand put the new Twisted Metal on it's own disc... :p

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laxpro2001
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:02:14 PM

@Highlander
First thing I thought of while reading this was that this would boost uncharted's sales. But at the same time I don't even think they would need to do anything to the graphics. Just the fact that you have the whole story there would be enough... but on that note, does anyone know how difficult it would be to re-release a game with a more updated engine?

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Highlander
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:19:40 PM

The God of War I & II collection for PS3 kind of suggests it's possible...

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Vitron
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 2:01:06 AM

Its a good thing I didn't pick up WKC immediately. Talk about sweet timing

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ColTater
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:41:26 AM
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Wow, why hasn't this been thought of before? I am on board.

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mexgeo86
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:50:34 AM
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Just don't make us wait a year for it to come to the states.

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:54:51 AM
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Now THAT is awesome! I never got the first one, but if they do that with White Knight Chronicles 2, I'll buy it. That makes it 100% worth it!! They could never do that with the 360, yet another reason I love the PS3 so much, lol.

Edit:
That makes it 200% worth it!!!!

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fluffer nutter
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 10:55:38 AM
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I was just about to get WKC for $20. Glad I waited. I'll get this instead.

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Gabriel013
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:40:13 AM

That's the danger of this sort of announcement if you were planning on buying new at sale price.

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kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:35:48 PM

white knight is so awesome I'd pay the $20 for it so I could play it now and then get wkc2 and replay the first one with new engine and then go right into the second one. $20 for white knight is a steal, I had no idea it was that cheap anywhere.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:23:41 PM

yeah, pay it.

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laxpro2001
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:06:42 PM

$20 is a good price for a game... especially since WKC2 isn't releasing until July 8th in Japan and the U.S. doesn't even have a release date yet.

In fact in response to this news I wouldn't be surprised if they made us wait a little longer to get WKC2 if they believe it still has sales left in the original... kinda like what they did with tony hawk pro skater 2 on the N64

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:03:38 AM
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Something tells me that feature may be a Japanese Exclusive feature...just like the Lightning and Cloud PS3s were. Japan is so lucky!

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johnld
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:53:48 PM

yeah, i'm thinking the same thing. or it could be their way of getting white knight to be multiplatform, which i hope never happens. their plans could be to release 2 for US stand alone for ps3 while they release both games for the 360 on 10 discs.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:56:23 PM

Personally I think it'll be limited to a collector's edition, and not limited regionally.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:24:26 PM

WKC won't be multiplat since they had some Sony help.

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Alienange
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:21:20 AM
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This news makes me feel a little ripped off.

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:24:32 AM

Same.

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ace_boon_coon
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:59:35 PM

yeah this is good news for new buyers but for us who've already paid feel shafted

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johnld
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:55:40 PM

maybe they can give us the playstation home armor for buying its first release. like hell am i spending so much time to get platinum for an armor. the trophies are time consuming and i still gotta get back to resonance of fate and 3d dot game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:24:52 PM

not me, game was worth every penny I paid and now I get to experience it in a whole new way too.

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Alienange
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:17:27 PM

Well yeah the game is great, but will you really play through it again just because the graphics are enhanced? I think you'll be too busy with WKC2 by then.

Anyway, I don't regret buying WKC, no sir, but I do kinda have that "I shoulda waited" feeling now.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:47:42 PM

I think they are updating more than the graphics.

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:28:12 AM
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While i feel a bit duped for spending $60 on version just released in the US this is still a great i idea. Something like this would have been great for Uncharted. The controls are more refined and user friendly in Uncharted 2 then they are Drakes Fortune.

Still need to finish White Knight. Might have to wait for a rainy day. 3d Dot should be here today!!

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coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:51:29 AM

I'm thinking heavily about going to Best Buy and snagging a copy of 3D Dot today after work, and I also need to finish WKC...I just can't decide if 3D Dot is a justified purchase. On the one hand it is cheaper than a normal new game but on the other from all the videos I have seen it looks like a bunch of minigames based on old RPG classics. What to do, what to do?

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:54:22 AM

Its the closest thing well get to a old school Zelda game on the PS3. From what I've read and people are telling me, its more like Zelda then any classic RPG. If you liked the old school Zelda's like A Link to the Past or Minish Cap then I'm sure youll get enjoyment out of 3D Dot.

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Kevadu
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:32:19 PM

I don't know why you think 3DDGH is a bunch of minigames, coverton341. It's pretty much a classic 2D Zelda clone with some minor RPGish elements thrown in. That said, there are *tons* of more subtle references in the dialogue and so forth to a lot of classic games, but it's not reflected in the gameplay so much.

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coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:48:44 PM

All right, that pretty much seals the deal for my wallet. I thought it was a bunch of minigames because of some clips I have seen on the net, I haven't been following the game too closely but someone told me it was pretty much old school Zelda done on the PS3 with a weird twist. I was intrigued, and looked up a few videos and was confused by what I saw.

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Alienange
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:58:26 PM

Well there ARE a ton of mini games in there but they're just diversions from what the game is really all about.

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johnld
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:59:58 PM

i'd say its worth the purchase but i'm also getting the feeling that its going to seem short. but after saying that, looking at the trophies, replayability is where its at. i know i'm gonna play this game more than once, im just not sure if theres different endings for doing specific stuff. If anything, its a great game to hold me off till modnation racer. too bad i suck at making stuff in games, but i still buy them. littlebigplanet, 3ddot game heroes, and next is modnation.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:26:53 PM

I hold 3DDot in my hands, but I think I'll wait till tonight to play :)

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Underdog15
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:39:00 AM
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What if you already bought the first? Do you still get upgraded gameplay somehow?

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Gabriel013
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:42:14 AM

I'm not sure how that would work unless the upgrade could be in the form of a dl patch. I doubt that would be the case. I guess it's intended as an incentive to go and purchase WKC2 and boost the sales numbers.

This makes sense for titles where the original is fairly old and can no longer be bought new in its own right.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:28:19 PM

Maybe if you have a saved finished game, you can replay the first one with the New Game+ feature.

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SmokeyPSD
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 11:52:52 AM
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This is awesome, I guess I'll hold off and just grab this.

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johnld
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:01:05 PM

they could be basing the US release on how well its doing so every bit helps.

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kraygen
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 12:41:46 PM
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I think this is a brilliant idea. Because even tho I already have the first one I'll get to play it with the new system and transition smoothly into the second one.

For those who never played the first one this is a steal and for those who weren't crazy about the gameplay on the first one, they can get both games with a mechanic that they might enjoy.

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RadioHeader
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:12:59 PM
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I'm not greedy enough to exect this to become a trend, but there are certain situations where it makes perfect sense; The God of War collection is Godsend since I missed them on PS2, and if The Last Guardian came with an upscaled version of Shadows of the Colossus, I'd pay extra for that for the same reason.

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RadioHeader
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:49:45 PM

Just finished God of War 2. Absolutely, totally, epically epic!

With that ending it must have been torture for you guys, waiting 2 years for GoW3. Oh well, I'm off to buy it now. I can wait 30 minutes :)

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Kevadu
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:28:53 PM
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This announcement feels like a bit of a rip-off mainly because the Japanese release of WKC2 is so close to the US release of WKC1. In general I think it's a pretty good idea, though.

That said they've pretty much killed any chance of me buying WKC1 now. I am not suffering from a shortage of games to play at the moment, as I'm still working on that backlog from March ;)

I also just got 3D Dot Game Heroes. That game is a blast.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:25:56 PM

Has there been an official announcement regarding this yet?

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laxpro2001
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:34:39 PM

I was wondering the same thing

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Mista
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:50:43 PM
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Grabbin 3DDH after I snag a copy of FFXIII, yeah I still had other games to finish. Just beat Ratchet n Cla k and starting Bio 2 again to tonight. I stll have DA Orgins and AC2 to finish so I have alot of gaming hrs ahead if me before I mKe any more full price buys. Still needed WKC but if this news is true I'll be waiting on WKC2.

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coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 1:50:53 PM
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I don't so much see this announcement as a rip-off really. Yeah it is a bit of crap because the game is coming out so soon in Japan after the first was released here in the West but if they are just adding the game to the sequel with updated gameplay and graphics then I am all for it and will gladly buy it and play it again. If they are going to charge extra because they added the first game updated then yeah I will feel a little ripped off.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:44:16 PM

Wonder whether this inclusion of WKC1 might be specific to a collector's edition? Including WKC1 in every copy sold will obviously cool any potential sales of WKC1 on it's own because people will wait for the 'free' copy that comes with WKC2. On the other hand, if this enhanced version of WKC1 only comes as part of a collectors edition for $79.99 or so, I think it will still sell well with WKC2 while leaving sales of WKC1 now relatively unscathed.

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Rinoa
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:15:03 PM
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wow
i want this, i hope it doesnt add too much to the cost of the game.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:15:54 PM
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blu-ray

WCK2 better come out in the US or.....or I'll have to play the Japanese version...and try to read their emotions lol...

The battle system will probably be the same so I won't have to worry 'bout translating that too much

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Deleted User
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 2:33:54 PM
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Yeah, like this is reliable and plausible.

How are those getting the updated version (updated to White Knight 2 specifications in terms of gameplay and mechanics) going to play online with the ones that bought the original game?

And no, a patch of this magnitude is out of the question.



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coverton341
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:10:04 PM

They possibly will not be able to. Or maybe pull online for the updated version and just have it as the single player quest and focus on the servers for part 2. There are a lot of options there so I wouldn't rule this out entirely.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 3:55:10 PM

Well, it may be that the WKC1 content is simply the SP story mode without the online component. After all the idea is to have the complete story on one disc, not provide a two for one offer on the full games. You may find that the online component of WKC1 is limited to WKC1.

That said, I can't see any particular reasons why the online component of WKC2 could not work with WKC1 online. The way that online games work requires that each peer and server within the game session exchange data with each other in a standard way. As long as that does not change, there is no reason why WKC2 and WKC1, could not co-exist in the same online space. The fact that one player sees slightly better graphics than another doesn't alter the experience. Combat may be a little more tricky, but again the exchange of data that makes that work probably doesn't care how the user selects attacks or how the user's game presents combat choices. All that's requires is information regarding each player's (end enemies) position, stats, equipment and actions, everything else is rendered locally.

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Alienange
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:00:35 PM

Hmmm... Interesting... I wonder if my "classic" WKC game saves will work with the updated WKC. Then it wouldn't be so bad.

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johnld
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:04:33 PM
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Give my avatar a knight damn it! even if you have to make online questing a bit harder.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:08:00 PM

Yes, but for the sake of our sanity, and marriages, please reduce the ridiculousness of some of the trophies. The amount of time needed to platinum WKC1 is near infinite.

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SplendidBlended
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:10:04 PM
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Oh wow, I would love this.
I frequently find myself in the position of not knowing whether I should buy the first game in a series, or just get the new one.
I even missed out on the first Uncharted because of this (I only have so much money, you guys.)

I really hope they go ahead and do this. I would most definitely buy it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 4:21:10 PM
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Totally SICK news, and a brilliant way to keep the online aspect kicking. I just beat WKC last night and I already want to see how it continues. I'm telling you this is the next Final Fantasy.

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tes37
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 5:02:12 PM
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I was planning on getting WKC2 no matter what. This would just sweeten the deal.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 6:53:35 PM
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It's gonna be at least a year before we see it stateside, I'm betting 2.

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keo7
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 8:41:24 PM
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Dark Cloud 3 please after WKC2 of course :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 13, 2010 @ 9:09:39 PM

hellz yes

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Robochic
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 1:19:19 AM
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One game I have yet to pickup. I think after reading what World has said about it, he's just kicked it up one more notch to get it ASAP.

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___________
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 3:11:12 AM
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oh, now that would be sweet!

remember when batman AA came out, it was suppose to be the first game to be on a hybrid disk and come with the dark night bluray release.
whatever happened to that?

it would be so cool if developers did this for their games,only bad thing i can see is i dont think its really fair for them to give us 2 games for the price of 1.
so maybe, it would be best to release 2 versions, 1 with both games, and one with just the sequel.
because if i already have the prequel, why would i buy it again with the sequel?

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Highlander
Friday, May 14, 2010 @ 12:27:07 PM

Special Collector's edition with extras....?

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___________
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 7:51:00 AM

dont need it, if they used the hybrid disks they could release all the LE content like behind the scenes, pics and stuff on the same disk as the game.

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