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Capcom: Sony Needs A "Strong Business Model" For Move

Sony and Microsoft are attempting to grab a piece of that giant motion-sensing pie that emerged from the oven with the Wii, but if they wish to be successful, they better be proactive on all fronts.

Or so says Capcom president Haruhiro Tsujimoto. According to what he told Develop, there might be enough financial goodness to go around, provided that both Sony and Microsoft have "a concrete plan in place to sell the devices." In other words, they not only need to have the requisite software, they also need to make sure it's in the public eye almost right from the start. Furthermore - and this is just our advice - it would be very useful to include information as to why both Move and Natal offer superior motion-sensing experiences to the Wii. Said Tsujimoto:

"If there isn't a strong business model message from the platform holders about how they will develop [motion controllers] with users, then I don't think it will go well."

He isn't the only publishing boss to express some doubts or concern over this new direction, and it'll really come down to whether or not the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 can cater to a slightly different demographic. Or, if they can manage to convince hardcore gamers on each platform that it's a worthwhile experience. For our part, we're interested...but we still reserve judgment for when Move hits store shelves later this year.

5/17/2010 10:41:09 AM Ben Dutka

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godsman
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 10:56:39 AM
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I loved the Wii Resident Evil 4 control system. I was kind of excited to when Resident Evil 5 was announced to have Move controls, only to be disappointed when they say the US Gold edition in do not have the Move support, only the Japanese version. Curse you Capcom!!

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Highlander
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:00:48 AM
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Well, if you've watched the trailer for the new Move enabled EyePet game, along with the Kevin Butler 'Move' spot, then I think you have a pretty good idea of where Sony is going with this.

Microsoft appears to have the words 'red ball' and 'Pew! Pew! Pew!' written into it's business plan this year, so there is no telling what their childlike avatar will do when he bursts onto the stage. No doubt it will be claimed as innovative, revolutionary, and exclusive - just like those fancy new duds that the Emperor is wearing - wait, isn't that guy naked? OMG No new clothes!

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WolfCrimson
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:08:07 AM

Or maybe what was underneath his avatar's shoes... again, and maybe this time it won't glitch.

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Highlander
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:09:36 AM

Well, it's OK, remember it's all scripted and there's a guy off to the side behind a curtain - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 7:11:53 AM

LOL

I live demo was more impressive than pre-rendered videos showing off the "potential" tech of the competition.

Even a year after, MS are still no where near the potential boasted from them.

The Move? Tested. Works great. Just needs the great software to support it and it'll be fine.

What killer programs or games does MS plan to release with Natal? Fable 3 is the only one so far, then there's paint studio and red ball bouncing mini-game. Really MS? Is that it? Way to hype up old tech...

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:10:25 AM
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Uh huh, this coming from a company that screwed Sony fans over every chance they got, cut content from games before they're released to sell it back to us at high costs and who have only managed to make two good games this generation. One of which is a Wii exclusive.

Crapcom is dead to me.

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bridgera
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:47:22 AM

Those were pretty much my thoughts. When I saw them say "Strong Business Model" I thought they were going to make some GOOD games.

Played DMC4, it was ok, but glad I waited for it to fall to $30.

Capcom made 2 good games this generation? What were they?

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DIsmael85
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:48:33 AM

Oh hush. I know it's an opinion, but it sounds and reeks of fanboyism. This article in point, the guy has a valid point. I'm still not entirely sold on any of the motion control stuff. Wii is a huge waste of time, my opinion, and Sony better step up with getting this into everyone's face.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:54:05 AM

In my opinion the only two good games they've made this gen are Super Street Fighter IV and Tatsunoko Vs Capcom.

I used to love Capcom. As a kid, Mega Man 2 wasone of the first games i played. I pretty much only bought Capcom, Square Soft and Konami games during the PS1 and PS2 era. They were my favorite developer. This gen, two of those three have gone south and fast especially Capcom. A great majority of their games this gen have been flops and the ones that showed promise like RE5 turned out to be a complete disappointment.

and DIsmael85, you really want to do this little dance again? How about you rebut my arguments instead of throwing out pejoratives.

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bridgera
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 12:05:22 PM

@Jawknee

Haven't played those, might have to keep those in mind.

I also loved the Mega Man games, until they went to Mega Man X6, X7.

Would have been neat if they had chosen to advance the technology of the games, and actually had a STORY rather than just go kill the 8 robots.

@DIsmael85

"but it sounds and reeks of fanboyism."

What an utterly worthless statement, it's about as insightful as pointless name calling.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 12:15:07 PM

bridgera, I hated Street Fighter IV. It was lacking for a $60 game. Super Street Fighter IV is great though. Like the PSX review said, its one of those rare times when double dipping is worth it. Tatsunoko vs Capcom is a must have if you own a Wii.

I also lost interest in MegaMan after X5. Legends didn't do it for me either.

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Mr Bitey
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 12:25:57 PM

Ha. Yeah Capcom has been a role with producing quality games lately.

Who could forget such gems as Bionic Commando, Dark Void, and Lost Planet 2.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 12:26:41 PM

hahaha Fail, Fail and Fail.

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Alienange
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 2:14:14 PM

Holy shnikes! Did you just say "pejoratives?"

That's damn funny! I love it! Hahahaha!

You just never cease to amaze me...

Anyways, I just wanted to say that I too am completely pissed about Monster Hunter and that if SSFIV and Tatsunoko Vs Capcom are the only two good games Campcom has this gen, then yeah, they're REALLY in the toilet.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 2:49:04 PM

Amazed? Why? you learn a new word?

:)

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Alienange
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 3:00:39 PM

I enjoyed your masterful use of the English language. Why can't you just take a compliment?

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 3:05:53 PM

I wasn't aware it was a compliment. I don't get them from you often. :)

Compliment accepted and i issue you an apology friend.

:)

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DIsmael85
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 6:40:37 PM

If you wanna dance we shall. I'll grab my shoes. I will stand my by statement. Especially when what you said has little to nothing to do with the topic at hand. If you want to take them goggles off for a second you would notice he was talking about both companies. The motion controls seem like a waste of time. I agree with what he said that both companies need to work hard to prove they are worth buying. So if you can get off your high horse for one second you might wise up and talk about the topic at hand. I happen to still like Capcom. They don't have to do what they have done for anyone but themselves financially. If they have hurt you in anyway I'm sure one day they will find it in their little hearts to ask for forgiveness.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 7:41:44 PM

My comment was completely relevant. A company like Capcom who has been an utter disaster this gen has no room telling Sony what they need to do. They have squandered their credibility. Stop trying to start an argument for the sake of arguing. Seems to be a constant running theme with you. No where in your response did you try to rebut what i said instead you just attack the speaker.

YOU get off YOUR high horse and stop lecturing people. Makes you look like a fool.

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DIsmael85
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 7:58:10 PM

He wasn't talking just about Sony. Which is why I said what I said. I'm pretty much done here, because it almost seems like it's pointless to do this with you. You are not a very good dancer my friend :P. Also, you should reread the article if you insist it's only about Sony.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 8:03:56 PM

I'm fully aware hes not only talking about Sony, He could be talking about fairy's and unicorns, its irrelevant to my point. Seems your the one who's having trouble here. Not me.

Ill say it again. Capcom's own business model has been an disaster. We are 4+ years into this generation and they only a hand full of games in a sea of flops to show for it.

They have no credibility left and don't have the right telling Sony, Microsoft, my dry cleaner or the guy a who owns the cigar shop by my house how to do things.

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DIsmael85
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 10:21:12 PM

I kind of feel like we are going in circles here. Capcom has every right to say what they can because they are business still in existence. I'm pretty sure they are not the only company that feels this way about the motion tech that Sony and Microsoft are making. They are probably the first to be vocal about it, but not the only ones. I'm not talking about how crappy any of their games are, that's a matter of opinion. I'm talking about their view on "Motion Controlling" which is what this article is about. I'll let this be, since it wont persuade you any way. You can look at this from a "Capcom makes cruddy games" angle or you can look at it from a business stand point. The choice will ultimately be yours.

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bridgera
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 1:04:30 AM

You should have just stopped about 5 comments back.

"Capcom has every right to say what they can because they are business still in existence."

So Capcom can say what they want, but others can't say what they want.... like how they think Capcom makes crappy games.

"I'm pretty sure they are not the only company that feels this way about the motion tech that Sony and Microsoft are making."

A lot of people do.... but forms like this are for comments... so people can say opinions... you position that an opinion must be 100% on topic is silly.

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DIsmael85
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 1:48:39 AM

Uhm, why did you try? Look people if you don't like what Im saying to bad. If what I said is to hard to comprehend Im sorry. Maybe I'm not stating it clear enough. You are making it seem like Capcom has no right to the game industry. They make games, you do not. Saying Capcom makes crappy games is not contructive to the topic that they are a company saying that Sony and MS need to advertise their motion tech. Maybe I'm not seeing how what you guys are supporting adds up to what the article was about. I'm just stating that it has nothing to do with what they are talking about. If Ninja Theory was to say the same thing would you all be like, well they make crappy games who cares. Or would you be more concerned that they don't want to support something that could potentially fail?

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Jawknee
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 10:54:09 AM

DIsmael85, Once again, and I'll say it as simple as i can because you seem to be having trouble comprehending basic English...

Capcom needs to take a look at their own business model and its failures before attempting to lecture Sony or Microsoft about theirs.

There, simple enough for you?

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DeathOfChaos
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 12:24:52 PM
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I think the move is alright, but MY prediction is that at first it won't sell as much as expected, but then there will be a huge spike in sales sometime after. Probably during Christmas or maybe after a price drop of some sort. What they need to do is make a PS3 250GB or 120GB bundle that includes the PSMove and the PSEye along with the regular dualshock controller. Imagine the amount of consoles that would sell for that!

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kraygen
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 1:48:16 PM
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I know I'll be buying move day 1. I've been excited since I saw it at e3 last year. It will be great for action rpgs, all action games really, I might actually play some sports games, strategy games, and my wife will probably play more video games with me once move comes out.

Also I am the youngest of 5 children and all my siblings have children. Children who want wii's, this will be an awesome opportunity for me to show them that ps3 is the way to go. Not only will it give them their childish motion games now, but will allow them to grow into more complex motion and non-motion controlled games later.

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Alienange
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 2:15:36 PM

Wouldn't you want to wait for those sports and strategy games to come out before buying the Move? What if they never come?

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kraygen
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 11:37:24 PM

I already own a couple of those sports games. Some games that are out now will or have already received the download to make them move compatible. So I'm just waiting to move man, I gotta move!

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JackC8
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 1:56:00 PM
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Yes, it will probably sell better if they run a lot of television commercials for it. I always love the deep insight we get from these executives :)

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Karosso
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 1:59:31 PM
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Just give me "Move" support for "The Last Guardian" but, make it optional.
If the gameplay is well implemented, might be just the game to force my hand and get me swinging :)

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Hezzron
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 2:14:58 PM
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I think that most people who are interested in motion controls already have the Wii. The new "curiosity" factor isn't there anymore. The PS3 experience will come down to the games, whether Sony has any exclusives worth playing.

Seeing as how we're on the subject, here's a little advice for Capcom's business model: Make some good games. If it weren't for Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5 and Monster Hunter Tri, you'd be dead in the water this gen.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 7:55:46 PM

Capcom's credibility when it comes to a good business model is completely irrelevant.



Apparently.

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Alienange
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 2:22:21 PM
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Tsujimoto? This idiot released Monster Hunter Tri on the Wii. It's sold a whopping 150k in North America! Bravo Tsujimoto, bravo. Way to bring the franchise to the West.

Oh, and I hear your next fail is a Megaman MMO.

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BlinkBoy
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 3:38:59 PM
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I think Sony must get people to know why this is different from what Wii have, for the casual gamer who may not even look in to E3 - but may catch it if a "normal" news paper brings it to light.

To some people Move just look like a Wii-like add on to PS3.

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BikerSaint
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 4:00:11 PM
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I'm ready for my "Move"!!!

And I'm sure that Sony that has "All our bases are belong to us" fully covered on the Move too.

Sooooo Capcom, until you can come up with anything that's not of ill-legitimate quality lately to show for your own company's own efforts, then just shut your ever-flapping pimp-slapped piehole!!!!!

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 7:28:36 AM

LOL

BikerSaint, your puppy pics just keep getting better and better.

Yoda pup. Best yet of Killer chihuaha and 3D Terrier.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 1:00:33 PM

Wheres the Vadar Boston Terrier?

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The Stig
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 4:50:36 PM
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I think Sony REALLY need to advertise MOVE heavily, even some product placement in TV shows. The general public will just see MOVE as another Wii type thing unless its shown to much better.

I kinda see MS having the upper hand here, people will see Natal as being 'new, exciting and revolutionary' and could be more inclined to get something 'different' to their current motion controls. And we all know how MS are when it comes to misleading consumers with their advertising (I find those 7 second demo and bing.com ads particularly annoying).

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 7:53:13 PM
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Still pissed that DMC4 won't save properly, eff you capcom.

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Jawknee
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 8:04:19 PM

5gb install on just about all their games too. Double eff you Capcom.

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BeezleDrop
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 8:22:18 PM
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Capcom needs to make better games, Period.

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DIsmael85
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 10:23:21 PM
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Capcom does just fine. You could get a larger harddrive? Just a suggestion. The options are there. I just think that it's pretty funny how everyone will jump on the "I hate Capcom" bandwagon as soon as something like this is posted, instead of looking at what the point is of this article. They are saying if those motion controllers are crap then no one will want to buy them and it would be pointless for companies to make crap on them. Sure I'm going to get flamed, but honestly it just goes to show you how immature some people still are in this gaming generation.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 1:02:35 PM

For your info i have 500gb HDD, still doesn't excuse the fact that lazy devs like Capcom don't do the extra work to avoid these annoying installs. Large installs are completely unnecessary as God of War III and Uncharted 2 have proven, there's no reason for except laziness on Capcom's part. Stop making excuses for crap devs.

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Robochic
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 12:08:01 AM
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as much as I dislike Capcom cause they make crappy games, he does make a valid point when it comes to the marketing part Sony and M$ both need to be very careful on how they approach the demographic and really make an effort to promote, and market their ideas, like what type of games, how many games,ect.

Right now the Wii has lost sales due to not continuing with the gaming aspect and not bring out great games so everyone is moving away from the Wii and going to Xbox or PS3 but it can switch back if the other companies dont' keep up with the motion control games.

Either way I'm pretty excited for the move but I do have these types of question for Sony on how many games, what type of games ect... cause I have a Wii and lets just say it's hasn't been turned on for 4 months due to their is nothing out there that I enjoy for it gaming wise still like the concept and Zelda but I get bored with it due to all they really seem to concetrate on is Mario and the Wii sports that you enjoy for a bit then say WOW thats all the play value it has.

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NeotericDope
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 2:41:00 AM
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This site is full of pessimists. Everything is negative about something. Saying Capcom is crap is an opinion. Others will disagree and others will agree. He is right though. Sony and MS (or should I make the "S" in MS a dollar sign because that's the cool thing to do and Sony aren't powered by capitalism either) need to advertise Move and Natal until everyone is sick of seeing them if they want to have a successful product. They also need to-as he said-show why they're going to be great. E3 we're looking at you. I'm looking forward to both and hope they make great, useful products.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 10:49:18 AM

Hey buddy, just about everyone of your comments has been a negative one since you started posting here. So once again...

GO LECTURE SOME ONE ELSE!

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 3:51:35 PM
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NeotericDope,
Try being constructive on this site instead of always belittling others here,

Or be known as a troll someplace else!

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NeotericDope
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 7:33:41 PM
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None of my comments have been directly negative. This site is full of pessimists and people who have nothing good to say about anything. Jawknee attacks any post that doesn't agree with him. For example of something I just read. You state that because someone that hangs around a person with an Xbox they are walking with a decreased IQ. If that's not negativity then I don't know what is. And if it's state that. Also telling me not to lecture. Lok in the mirror and tell yourself that. Just about everyone on this site attacks all who aren't PS3 loyalists like a piece of machinery is the second coming. I have belittled no one, but made generalizations that hold weight. Tell me how agreeing with Capcom is not being constructive?

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Jawknee
Tuesday, May 18, 2010 @ 10:01:27 PM

Eh read it again, i never said that and it was obviously a joke.

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Simcoe
Wednesday, May 19, 2010 @ 5:20:13 PM
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Whenever I read "Business Model" I can't help but think of the Bluth Company's business model. ;-)

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