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Pachter: Rockstar Has Erased My Red Dead Skepticism

Red Dead Redemption is one of the better games (and better overall experiences) of the generation. But analyst Michael Pachter wasn't so convinced heading into the game's launch.

He was skeptical about its potential success but in speaking to CVG, he admitted he was just plain wrong. He said Rockstar definitely did the right thing by tackling the Western theme that nobody had really done right in the video game industry (up to this point). Therefore, Pachter probably had good reason to be a little skeptical; although the analogy is a tad inaccurate, it would almost be like expecting a superhero game to score high and sell like mad ('cough' Batman: Arkham Asylum 'cough'). But the "visionaries" at Rockstar most definitely proved themselves. Said Pachter:

"I suppose we should call them visionaries. I have been sceptical [for] a long time, but they always believed that a Western, if done well, would sell well. It looks like they were right all along. Nobody can doubt that they made a great game."

He then jokes that he wants a copy from Rockstar, but they haven't sent him anything since he predicted that Bully wouldn't sell very well. ...maybe this guy needs to put a bit more emphasis on review scores. Anything that scores as high as RDR is bound to sell, almost regardless of setting and premise. And besides, how many have been waiting for the quintessential Western-themed game?

5/20/2010 10:54:58 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (31 posts)

Qubex
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 11:06:22 AM
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Omg Pratchett! Enough already...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Vitron
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 11:16:25 AM

I really don't wanna say this but....

In your face Patcher!!:o

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godsman
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 2:09:31 PM

ANY game when done right can sell millions.

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Mavfan321
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 11:29:13 AM
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All I read was blah blah wrong. And Bully! I miss that game if I wasn't so invested in my playing time going toward the PS3 right now I would love to beat Bully one more time.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 3:29:53 PM

We really do need another Bully.

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Shams
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 11:42:51 AM
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This game has done well, which is not surprising considering who has given us it, and all the publicity and marketing surrounding it.

It think Ben's score is most accurate. A '9.3' means the game is successful in what it aims to do, awesome to the fans, and worth trying to everybody in general. It isn't the end-all and be-all of games that a score closer to a '10' would suggest, but it's pretty darn good.

As this is the third R* game I'm playing in the last couple of weeks, I must say that the term "open-world" suits these games more than "sandbox". "Sandbox" seems like a more fitting label for the genre that contains games like LittleBigPlanet, and ModNation Racers where you can actually do creative stuff.

After playing games by R*, who might as well be called the pioneers of the open-world genre, there obviously is a checklist of themes and features that all their games have in common. I'm not saying that RDR is simply a western, reskinning of GTA4. It's pacing is different, yet the same golden elements that we've come to expect are welcomed. I guess I was expecting something more revolutionary. So I'd say Ben's review was dead-on. I wished I waited for his review, because I would've seen that it is an excellent title, but hardly a D1P. Oh well, a learning lesson.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 3:30:50 PM

But in this case there IS a lot of sand in that open world :)

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 11:56:09 AM
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I really wish this guy would just go away. Hes doesn't seem to get anything right and just gives Sony developers bad, back stabbing advice.

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:03:12 PM
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Hey, I can appreciate a man that can admit when he is/was wrong.

Sounds a bit cheapskatish saying he wants a free copy of the game though. Go buy it yourself, I am sure you don't work for free.

Does he normally get games for free? If so, I wonder why, since he is an analyst of the industry, not a reviewer.

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Jawknee
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:09:29 PM

Entitlements.

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:15:45 PM

Also since he hates everything I've ever heard from him, how can he do his job?

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leatherface
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 2:12:10 PM

for Pacht, it's not who he knows, it's who he b l o w s

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:14:59 PM
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I never liked Patcher, it's like he wants to be the guy that's always on the other side of things, especially when a game is actually good. But this time, HA! He got proven wrong! lol. At least he admitted it.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:26:03 PM
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Let me say this..Free Roam is groundbreaking in my book.

A perfect blend of NPC, human players, and wide open map.

I would love to see every multiplayer game start this way.

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Robochic
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:33:53 PM
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this guy is a famewhore he'll say anything for people to listen just so he can get his 5 mins in.

Dude needs to be fired and get a new job!

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Hezzron
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:37:51 PM
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Articles like this make me ponder some of life's big mysteries....like how did we get here, where does the universe begin and end, and where does the money come from that makes up Pachter's paycheck?

Seriously, I don't mind someone stating the obvious. We do it all the time in daily conversation. But why is it "news" when this guy does it?

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FatherSun
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:41:13 PM
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Admission of failure does not excuse it. Off with his head!

I couldnt care more our less if he exists or not. Occasionally he can be entertaining even comical. But I do not expect more from him anyway.

P.S. I can do his job. ;)

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Kiri
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 1:00:59 PM

I couldn't agree more...

I mean analyst is just a fancy title for psychic...

All he does is say stuff that have 50% chance of success and when he fails he apologises...

If people get paid for this then why am i still going to college???
:D

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FatherSun
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 1:21:53 PM

To my fellow PSX members,

Please excuse any typos or errors. I usually visit on my Andriod cell and use a SWYPE virtual keyboard. It is great but not perfect. And by the time I get to checkfor errors the edit button disappears.

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Imagi
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 12:59:02 PM
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He flipped a coin, this time it came up tails. meh

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FM23
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 1:26:11 PM
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This guy Pachter is pathetic, his job is to state his opinion. Everyone thought the same thing coming in as well, man people get paid to do anything, but people who do all the dirty work in society get paid crap. Seriously, what's more important, game analyst or school teachers for all grade levels? I know this comment has nothing to do with anything, but for someone like him to get paid that much money to what he does baffles me. Same thing goes for athletes, movie stars, etc. I getting ready to go to grad school so I can do PT and I won't even get paid as much as them...this system we live in is perfect. Anyway, I love RDR so far and I have barely even got deep into the story. And I do love the graphics, whats up Jawknee (lol...friends?)

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Alienange
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 2:03:31 PM
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Well no doubt he had his reasons for being skeptical over a western themed video game. It's one of those settings that people think is fun even if they don't like the movies. I'm pretty sure tons of gamers were just as skeptical.

As Ben made clear in his review, liking western movies really has nothing to do with whether or not you'll enjoy gaming in that time period. However, since we've never truly experienced an epic western themed game, I'd say Pachter had every reason to be skeptical.

He analyses and then predicts. The analysis was accurate. Being wrong about predictions can be just as satisfying as being right.

PS: Will someone now do a proper pirate game?
*sideways glance at Propaganda Games*

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Highlander
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 2:39:33 PM
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Does this guy actually play games or just opine on them?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 3:34:17 PM
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Comedian Michael Pachter ladies and gentlemen! He will be here all week. Scratch that. He will be here for the rest of our lives.

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Zorigo
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 3:59:15 PM
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I really like Rockstar. they seem like the cool guys that sit in the corner, and make everyone laugh yet actually produce susbtance

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FxTales
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 5:35:50 PM
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It's that damn picture of him again...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 5:52:52 PM

reminds me of Keith Olberman

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 9:02:30 PM

Well World, I guess the have two things in common, their looks and the fact that nobody listens to them.

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NonProphet
Thursday, May 20, 2010 @ 9:29:32 PM
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Pachter for President.

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:43:34 AM
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From now on, I suggest that each and every article that features Michael 'Often Wrong' Pachter be prefixed with "Pachter Has Spoken!" in order to grant the proper gravitas to his remarks.

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___________
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 9:33:03 AM
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of course they did the right thing.
western shooters are a classic, and there really is not a AAA western shooter out there!
gun, and red dead revolver are probably the pick of the litter and there A old and B not exactly stellar.

western shooter is the best type of shooter they could of gone for because 1 its open world everyone loves open world games.
2 we have a million and one science fiction shooters, a million and 1 war shooters, a million and one futuristic shooters but very few western shooters.
sounds like a no brainier to me!

god this guys a douche!
if hes not stating the obvious, hes saying something stupid and short minded like saying insomniac would be crazy not to go multiplatform.

does he not think hmmmmmmmm maybe theres a reason they dont want to?
maybe there getting special privileges there getting now, that they would not be getting if they switched.
he just looks at the cards on the table and never thinks past that, never thinks maybe theres something hidden away.

everything happens for a reason, insomniac are not staying exclusive to sony just because they like them!

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