Valve: We "Routinely Evaluate" Making Games On Other Platforms

Many gamers - especially PlayStation 3 owners - view Valve boss Gabe Newell as an egotistical, PC-biased, PS3 hater. ...well, even if the first two are accurate (and we're not saying they are), the third might be stretching the truth.

Over the past few years, it has become abundantly clear that Valve doesn't want anything to do with Sony's console, and many have attributed this to laziness on the part of the developer; i.e., the Xbox 360 is very similar to a PC, so it's no real trouble getting one of their games to run on that platform. The PS3, on the other hand... But in speaking to online broadcaster 5by5, Newell defends the studio's stance and says the entire situation is a bit more complex. While he won't say the team is working on any PS3 games right now, he does admit that "there are a lot of interesting things about the PS3," and he can't ignore the number of Steam users who now own Sony's platform. He adds that the plan to produce games for other platforms/consoles is something the studio "routinely evaluates" and they want to do what's "best for their customers." Said Newell:

There are a lot of issues - It would be hard to explain how we make decisions on [which platforms to develop for]. Where are our iPhone games? Where are our iPad games, why don’t we ship anything on the DS, why don’t we ship anything on the PSP? Why don’t we invest in microtransactions, why don’t we have any Flash-based and casual kinds of games? That sort of analysis is something we look at all the time. What are the trade-offs, what are the opportunity costs, how do we leverage work in one area to benefit work in other areas?"

As to the idea that Valve is biased against the PS3, Newell denied this by saying they're "super agnostic." This is all very well and good, but has anyone noticed that all he ever talks about is "his customers?" While the rest of the gaming world is doing everything they can to continually expand their targeted demographic, to always cater to larger and larger groups of gamers, this guy only talks about satisfying their fans. ...that's only half the equation there, chief. You need to keep creating new fans, purely for the business angle of things and the only reason you wouldn't want to do that is because...um...maybe you're still biased and you want to keep your fans in your little "exclusive group?"

It's just a theory. For our part, we really don't care if Valve does or doesn't develop for the PS3; if they do, fine. But the rate at which they release titles and considering what we've seen from PS3 exclusives...eh, we'll live.

5/21/2010 10:47:10 AM Ben Dutka

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ro kurorai
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:14:00 AM
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Couldn't care less about Valve's decision whether to develop for the PS3 or not. The last Valve game I played was HL2, and that was a few years ago.

Got my PC and my PS3, both satisfy my gaming needs abundantly.

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:18:28 AM
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Gabe not a PS3 hater? Oh, I don't know about that Ben, Newell is on record hating on the PS3.

Here's a quote (regarding the PS3 architecture), "a waste of everybody's time. Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created."

The there is this gem "The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted..."

Followed by this one in the same interview, "I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a do over. Just say, 'This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it'."

I just love this quote (and it's from the interview referenced), “We would love to see the PS3 be more open like a Mac than more closed like a Gamecube. It makes it easier to justify those investments if that were the case.”

Well, the PS3 supports OpenGL (which as the name suggests is an open standard) - unlike the 360 which is Microsoft proprietary Direct X only. I can't be bothered to go dig up the list, but the SDK for the PS3 supports many open standard APIs, and games are stored on an open standard - BluRay, not a proprietary disc standard or cartridge.

How open does he want the PS3? So open that it can be hacked? Sounds like yet more excuses from Gabe Newell, PS3 hater in residence at Valve.

Last edited by Highlander on 5/21/2010 11:19:40 AM

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SolidFantasy
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:37:10 AM

Thanks Highlander, but now I just hate this guy more than ever and have to leave on an angry note.
I don't understand the full extent that goes into developing for a console of the current gen. What I do know is that time and time again one PS3 exclusive after another continues to outshine the competition and you can't argue with results Gabe.

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NeoHumpty
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:41:29 AM

Glad you quoted all of that. I was about to go searching for past quotes. Gabe's trying to make it sound like he's slowly coming around without eating too much crow, I guess.

I love me some Team Fortress. I love having a few beers and messing with people on that game. It's the only online game I have put a lot of hours into. Actually, I have a new laptop I'm about to order, and being able to play a version other than my ps3's is one of the main reasons I'm excited about getting it.

And, yes. I know EA is mostly to blame for the ps3's inferior version. But Gabe will never convince me that he's not a hater.

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:51:40 AM

I think Mr. Newell's problem is that he let's his mouth run before he engages his brain. So there are plenty of inflammatory comments out there about various topics - especially the PS3. Even if he's completely changed his mind on the topic, he still has to deal with his own past comments. Of course he could simply come out and say "I was wrong.", but very few people today whether public figures, industry figures or private citizens understand contrition.

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sawao_yamanaka
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:57:34 AM

Heck he should be more like cliffy b. He's an xbox supporter but he gives credit when its due. He likes heavy rain for petes sake! Gabe you suck…

Last edited by sawao_yamanaka on 5/21/2010 12:00:14 PM

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Underdog15
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:23:53 PM

Someone get that man some ibuprofen or other anti-inflammatory! If his head and tongue swell any more, he'll choke!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:28:07 PM

I was trying to be diplomatic. ;)

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:33:02 PM

LOL! You succeeded!

I wasn't. I think I succeeded...

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Mavfan321
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:35:44 PM

The PS3 has exclusives that GOTY contenders and winners. If it's such a pain to develop for than how come when it's developed for the right way the outcome is unanimous praise? Meanwhile most of 360's exclusives are based on the laziness of developers to try and optimize a more powerful platform, so who's failing who.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:03:49 PM

Give this man a cookie!

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FullmetalX10
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:53:59 PM

After reading those quotes it is safe to say that this man is my new most hated person of the month, it first being yoichi wada (his name does not deserve capitals), for considering bringing Versus XIII to the 360 also.

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RadioHeader
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 4:02:35 PM

Those quotes in Highlander's post remind me of the early days when the PS3 was subjected to vicious attacks from all angles - M$, xbox sites, various sub-par developers and of course the xbots. Nowadays the PS3 is a proven champ and the attacks have turned to a merciful plea "Can't we all just get along?".

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kokoro
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 9:05:39 PM

Please never leave this website.

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Qubex
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:47:22 PM

Highlander, thanks for making the effort in getting those quotes, I did not realise (until reading your post hat is) the amount of hate this frog of a man has for our platform...

He should be enclosed in his own valve and tightly sealed, never to speak again!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Orvisman
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:19:35 AM
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Well, it doesn't help that right off the bat he called the PS3 a waste of time and that he said Sony should kill the PS3 and start over.

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:23:41 AM

Don't forget that investing in the SPEs gives no long term benefits - which is obviously why Uncharted 2 sucks so much...</sarcasm>

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:36:09 AM

Speaking of longevity, I had no idea that Left 4 Dead 2 had more longevity than Uncharted 2 or Littlebig Planet or Modnation Racers or Gran Turismo 5.

Go Valve!!! Your zombie shooters are bigger and better than any game that came out in 2009 and deserve every game award and accolation known to....

oh, wait.... what's Naughty Dog showing over there?

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Oxvial
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:29:11 AM
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pfft Ps3 is fine without his average FPS games.

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Mavfan321
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:46:49 PM

LFD (2) is the most overrated trash, I had played it long before I owned a PS3, and all my friends tried to sell me on that game. I could not get into it whatsoever, it's essentially a mindless shooter made by a developer who once made something so much more.

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:31:17 AM

I think it was the AI that won so much praise. The controls are pretty tight too.

L4D2 was just a simple rehash with more daylight levels, different characters and more melee weapons.

It honestly could've passed for an expansion.

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SvenMD
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:31:27 AM
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Do they routinely evaluate finishing Half Life 2: Episode 3???

Maybe they should look into that first.

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I_defenestrate
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:53:24 AM

I would agree, but after it took as long as it did for episode 2, I kind of stopped caring. Almost forgot about it until you said something.

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:39:23 AM

I think Valve prefer spending time hyping their franchises than developing them?

I mean, Naughty Dog managed to make Uncharted 2, which is a gaming masterpiece next to Heavy Rain, in about 2 years. 2 YEARS!!! to make Uncharted 2!!!!

How long has it taken for Valve to make another Half Life chapter? What's their excuse?

Actually, Gabe's mouth is too full to answer, that's okay, I can wait...

...

...

Gabe: ... well... (takes another bite)

Dammit Valve!!!!!

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Jawknee
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:34:04 AM
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Newell also said something like he wishes the PS3 was more "open" like a Mac. i don't get it? Mac's aren't open.

Last edited by Jawknee on 5/21/2010 11:34:32 AM

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Orvisman
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:04:16 PM

I think he meant Big Mac! ;)

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leatherface
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:48:15 PM

in his lunchbox 360

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Jawknee
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:49:23 PM

pfthahahaha!

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johnld
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:15:16 PM

you know what, i want to convince activision to buy them out. not because i want multiplatform, i could care less. i just want them screwed over.

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:32:13 AM

LOL

and again... LOL

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Banky A
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 8:54:45 AM

Hahahaha.
Love this site.

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Clamedeus
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 11:46:59 AM
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All i hear from him is Steam, but no explosion.

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shadowscorpio
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 4:19:21 PM

HAhaha.

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Shams
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:04:33 PM
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Hey Ben. We should shoop the pic. Instead of the valve being on the dude's eye, it should be on Newell's mouth, and closed tight.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:40:49 PM

LOL I don't do that kind of thing, but still...

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Mornelithe
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:16:08 PM
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To be honest, there's something to be said about developers who only care about their core fans. However, that doesn't necessarily mean anything has to change about their games...in order to bring new fans into the fold, by simply producing on the PS3 in parallel with other platforms.

Valve is completely without footing at this point, unequivocally. The GoTY of 2009 was exclusive to the PS3 for cryin out loud, to say nothing of the unique experiences found in other exclusive titles. Of course, we could also look at MP games at this point, and given the work we're seeing from Crytek on their MP engine, I find it increasingly difficult to swallow that the PS3 just _can't_ handle the adaptation of an engine several years old at this point.

Valve should stick to their much much more neutral story of, we only have devs internally for PC and 360. And just _stop_ responding to questions about the PS3 and other platforms. Their devs are abhorrent speakers, who only dig themselves further into a PR quagmire.

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Phoelix
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:18:56 PM

Yes, if they want to develop for their fans, I don't have a problem with that. Developers should be completely free to do whatever they choose, and if this is what Valve wants, whatever.

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Mornelithe
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:00:56 PM

Yeah I've no problem with that approach either, what I do have a problem with, is them allowing their devs and other employees to be mouthpieces. One would think they'd already figured out Gabe Newell doesn't excel at public speaking.

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fstop
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:18:49 PM
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Oooh Gabe, Gabe, Gabe, you can't come back from what you said early in the life of the PS3. It's on the World Wide Web for crying out loud. Simply say your sorry for your irrational comments early in the PS3's life and walk away quietly so we can talk about...hhhmmm....let's see....Man Furismo Jive.

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:42:38 AM

I'm looking through previous comment threads on older articles.

Which member made up Man Furismo Jive? It's almost become a phenomenon around here.

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WolfCrimson
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 6:23:19 AM

That was Kevin Butler in his latest ad.

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SmokeyPSD
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:43:28 PM
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does he really think we don't remember what he's said in the past. come off it.

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maxpontiac
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:47:48 PM
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Hey Valve, Kratos and Drake say hello... then goodbye.

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jaybiv
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 12:59:16 PM
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No issue for me. They are no different than Naughty Dog or Insomniac for sticking to one platform. I don't miss Valve's contributions to the industry. If they aren't on the PS3 then I don't read about them, nor do I dream about playing them. You can't miss what you've never had, right?

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:13:26 PM

Naughty Dog are a Sony Studio, not an independent. Valve is independent of MS. Insomniac may be a more apt contrast, but they have a special status with Sony too, so I'm not sure it's a fair comparison.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:34:14 PM
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Nice attempt to backpedal, but once you say something on the internet it's out there forever.

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Hezzron
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:34:24 PM
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"Why don’t we have any Flash-based games?"

If Valve doesn't update their game engine soon, people will mistake their games as Flashed-based.

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:36:41 PM

Oh god no. Flash based games are horrible. All those crappy games on Facebook that are flash based absolutely kill the PC they are running on and chew up a huge amount of network bandwidth.

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JackC8
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:43:02 PM
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The guy's obviously full of a certain substance that doesn't smell very good at all. I really don't see much point in even publishing what people like this have to say, other than to give others the opportunity to point out what an unabashed liar he is.

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Dustinwp
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:46:53 PM
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I wouldn't mind the guy so much if he were just to say "We won't develop for the PS3 until Sony lets us use Steam on their platform". Instead he just acts like a total ass spewing crap!

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Highlander
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:50:02 PM

LOL!

I don't think MS let him use Steam on their 360 platform. XBL is a closed system...

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Dustinwp
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:40:55 PM

True, but MS does allow them to use Steam with Windows PC's. Which could be the reason MS gets support from Valve on the Xbox. If Sony had their own Mass PC OS Valve would probably jump on the Sony's bandwagon fairly quick. Valve most likely would be all about the PS3 if Sony agreed to put a Steam app. on the platform. Which I believe is what Gabe truly wants.

Last edited by Dustinwp on 5/21/2010 3:44:53 PM

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xXxSeTTriPxXx
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 1:57:22 PM
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around the ps3 launch,he flat out said the ps3 was a piece of junk.and said that sony needs to trash the ps3 an start over.he gave no real explanation then.now that the ps3 is selling (great i might add)your trying to give more sensible answers to why your not making games for the ps3.by the end of this year,there will be over 40million ps3 owners out there.he's probably thinking (momma always told me,don't count chickens b4 they hatch).

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FlyingKickPunch
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:24:39 PM

awesome pic dude!

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:45:32 AM

Thumbs up for the pic buddy.

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FullmetalX10
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 2:01:06 PM
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What is wrong with this person, they should just ban him from developing for the Playstation for all he has said, any game these people would bring out could have some kind of chip killing virus in it.

Though Square Enix should do one thing Valve does, DEVELOP GAMES FOR YOUR FANS!!!

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BeezleDrop
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 2:05:19 PM
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They chose to Develop for the Mac instead of the PS3. I cannot take Valve seriously, even after the next 8 years while I wait for HL2 Episode 3, they have burnt a bridge they won't cross, ever again.

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sticklife
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 2:18:47 PM
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Yeah, I think we've all forgotten how open apple is with their stuff...

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FlyingKickPunch
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:25:28 PM

old macs even had a key on the keyboard called "open apple" didn't they? lol

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:50:00 AM

Are you kidding me!!!

The Apple iPad is the most open gaming and computing tablet on the market!!! Look how it loads all my games, webpages and....

and....

... hmmm, why is this website not loading?
And why is this flash game not loading up?
Hang on, why can't I access this PDF file?

Does anything from the net work on this thing???

Dammit, I don't want the iTunes store, I want my damn website to load!!!!!

.... THAT'S IT!!! Where's the receipt?!?!?!?

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NoSmokingBandit
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 2:23:35 PM
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The L4D series is the most daft and mindless game i've ever played, so i really dont care if they rehash it every year for the 360. I just want Portal 2 for PC. They can di** around with everything else for all i care.

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 1:53:10 AM

So true.

Portal was the only huge revolutionary game for FPS junkies who needed something more than a person or alien to shoot.

Out of all the games in the orange box, Portal was by far the best one. And it wasn't even made by a person at Valve, they just bought it and published it!!! LOL!!!!

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ABUrabad
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 2:50:43 PM
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im sure that what im gonna say now will not add anything to what my friends say above
ps3 have proven for the last year to be the device with the biggest growth momentum among others ,if i were in valve shoe's id review my old statements also
but still who cares
ps3 have shown all other consoles that its has its perfect own collection of games thats is not available on any other console
Valve ,im sorry to say that but the ps3 dosent need u any more even do most ps3 players

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ABUrabad
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 8:10:09 AM

sorry buy i didnt figure that out

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Zorigo
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:20:55 PM

well at least you edited out the comment, but you could have deleted surely?

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johnld
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:07:18 PM
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now, if only square enix "takes care of its fans" like this.

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Zorigo
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:21:48 PM
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I use to not give a sh** about valve, but then i heard portal 2 wasn't coming to ps3.
LAZY DI**S
If they efforted toward the ps3, they'd make big bucks.

Last edited by Zorigo on 5/21/2010 3:22:01 PM

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FlyingKickPunch
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:26:56 PM
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all gabe newell "routinely evaluates" is if he wants fries with that.

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fstop
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:48:13 PM

Ahahahahahahaha!
Classic!

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Clamedeus
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:52:29 PM

I think the reason why he hates the PS3 is because he never got his fries with that.

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NoSmokingBandit
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 3:58:45 PM

No need to evaluate when the answer is always "Do you have a larger order of fries?"

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Clamedeus
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 4:00:06 PM
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@NosmokingBandit

He's going to need Jumbo size.

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Kowhoho
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 4:04:59 PM
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WTF Valve, you guys are obviously just trying to get attention at this point.
Will they develop on the PS3? Or won't they?
Will they? Won't they? Will they? Won't they?

MAKE A DECISION

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 5:11:41 PM
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Gabe Newell, today's "Worst Person in the World."

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 5/21/2010 5:12:07 PM

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LividFiction
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 6:10:40 PM

Don't forget Least Competent at Breathing Without Mechanical Assistance.

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bridgera
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 6:21:31 PM
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Hey Valve Math geniouses, once you take out the 360's and PS3's that failed, there are actually MORE PS3 owners than 360 owners.

So doesn't it make more sense to develop on the PS3 than 360?

No, because I'm Gabe Newell, I make games, and I hate the PS3.

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Kiri
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 6:33:59 PM
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You got it all wrong...
You see Gabe wastes most of his money on food...
If he developed for the ps3 as well he'd have more money to spend and eventually die from a heart attack...

So it's not a matter of buisness but a matter of personal health...
I mean for every other company going multiplat seems to be a no brainer...
:P

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Beamboom
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 8:17:47 PM
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Hehe, I gotta laugh. With Final Fantasy you guys got mad for them trying to reach a wider audience. With Valve you guys go mad for focusing on their fans. You praise platform exclusive development and claim that multi platform titles can never be as good, yet slander Valve for sticking to one platform, shouting "you don't know how much money you loose from THAT!"... :D

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 9:08:06 PM

lose, "loose" is for like loose change. And it's one thing to be exclusive, it's a whole nother thing to destroy a gaming franchise.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 5/21/2010 9:09:58 PM

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Snaaaake
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 9:32:25 PM

Square Enix ruined FF trying to reach a wider audience, like Underdog015 said in his FFXIII review, they failed to impress the western audience and pissed off the original fans.

Now I'm a Gabe Newell hater not because he doesn't make games on PS3, but because of the comments he made a few years back.

But if you point is saying that the Newell hate here is because he only focus on one platform yet Valve isn't a first party studio then I agree with you.

But then again, Valve is just lazy to put more efforts into the PS3.

Last edited by Snaaaake on 5/21/2010 9:35:41 PM

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 2:06:42 AM

@ Beamboom,

You got it all wrong, mate.

With FF XIII, quality was compromised because of the transfer to 360. And we are not mad at Valve for staying true to its fans, heck, we applaud it.
We are mad at Valve and particularly Gabe Newell for the slander and comments made bashing the PS3 and it's technical abilities, and also for not even TRYING to make games for the PS3 or even learn its architecture. Hence, why we call them lazy, cos they don't even try!!!

PS3 exclusive developers focus on quality and pushing the PS3 to its limits. They choose the PS3 because it's the only machine that can deliver on their vision, not because they are too lazy or have no idea how to work with other consoles.

Valve games don't push anything really from a technical standpoint. They remain exclusive because they DON'T know how to work PS3 hardware and can't be bothered to.

I honestly think that PS3 gamers are spoiled with Sony exclusives, and the only big game Valve has to offer that would do well on PS3 as well as 360 and PC is Portal 2.

Portal 2 requires brains, something PS3 players prefer in games with the likes of Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain.

L4D does well on 360 cos its players prefer party shooters, timing and luck over good strategy. I believe it would not fair well on PS3 simply cos PS3 players have higher expectations of games ever since we played all those exclusives over the last year.

Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain, God of War III, Littlebig Planet, Modnation Racers, Killzone 2, Demon's Souls, Gran Turismo 5 (Man Furismo Jive), inFamous, The Last Guardian, MLB 10: The Show, Motorstorm, Ratchet and Clank, Resistence 2, Socom 4, Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3, and Wipeout.

AND THOSE ARE JUST THE EXCLUSIVES!!!! (Thank you Wikipedia for the list of exclusives. Go ahead and compare 360's to PS3's. 360 has more, but PS3 has higher rated)

Yep, PS3 players really are spoiled for choice. I think we'll get by without a Valve game, don't you PSXextreme?

Last edited by Dancemachine55 on 5/22/2010 2:22:23 AM

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BikerSaint
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 9:48:27 PM
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The only way gabe will EVER be all over the PS3 is.....

....if Sony comes out with a McDonald's Quad-druple Quarter Pounder w/a 1/2 gallon of Mayonnaise on the side, scented aromatherapy firmware patch.

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Kai200X
Friday, May 21, 2010 @ 10:22:56 PM
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I know some people over at Kotaku said people shouldn't keep asking "Noobiewell" about developing games for PS3, because it's same BS from him over and over again. I said it before, I don't care if Valve ever make games for PS3, because anyone who don't want to make games for PS3, I just don't play them. No Halo for PS3? it's okay, no Gears? no problem, no Mass Effects? fine by me. The bottomline is this, people like him can hate PS3 all they want, but they are the ones missing out.

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 2:27:23 AM

So true, but unfortunately you're missing out on Gears and Mass Effect too.

Wait, Mass Effect is on PC. So you're just missing out on Halo Reach, Gears 3, Fable 3 and Crackdown 2.

For what the PS3 has to offer, I can get by without needing those games.

Since I do have a 360 as well, I'll definitely be getting Gears of War 3. The first 2 were a blast to play. Fable 3... maybe, if there's time between Sony exclusives. I'll be skipping Crackdown 2.

Got a preorder on Halo Reach tho. That game is amazingly fun now that it's a little different from the first 3 Halos. And about damn time they changed it up a bit, I must add. Halo 3 was just Halo 1 and 2 with better graphics. REALLY!!! No difference!!!!

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Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 12:46:38 AM
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gabe maybe a loud mouth lazy .......... but the man sure knows how to make a good game.
theres a reason why every game he releases gets GOTY..............
just like ID, and crytek, they take their sweet time releasing a game but when they do o boy is it worth the wait!!!!!!
just wait till half life 2 epp 3 releases, than you wont be talking sh*t about him.

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wiiplay
Monday, May 24, 2010 @ 11:07:02 AM

I hate Gabe as much as any Gabe hater, but I sadly have to agree with you.
I love Portal and Team Fortress 2. Was never a fan of Half-Life or Left 4 Dead.
I do have to admit, that when I am super bored, and just not feeling like turning the PS3 on, killing zombies in Left 4 Dead 2 just kind of fits the mood. Not because the game is the best game ever created, or because the graphics will make my inner gamer cry. No. It's because it's mindless, it's time consuming, point and click action. It's because it reflects real life in no way, and the game just makes me feel like a gamer.
Uncharted 2, although I've never played it (I know, I've missed a lot, but money's tight right now) is a realistic game, designed to focus on graphics and realism rather than pure fun. (Realistic guns, sounds, etc). L4D2 makes me feel like I'm playing an arcade game, such as Super Mario Brothers. SMB is in no way realistic, with floating bricks, etc. That's my view on what a true 'video-game' is supposed to be. Valve somehow just makes me feel like that. Like they can recreate the feeling I had when I played my first video game.
To me, the games they create are like playing a classic arcade game in a 3D world.

Wow, I'm getting very emotional..
Before someone says "Don't compare Uncharted to Valve" I'd like to say that it was just an example.

Also, don't get me wrong. I know what I said above may make me look like some kind of Xbot, or what ever they're called, but I am not. I honestly am not a fanboy to any platform. (Meaning I like every platform including the PS3, Xbox, PC and Wii)

Edit: I see a ad that wondered away from the ad-spot.

Last edited by wiiplay on 5/24/2010 11:08:31 AM

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 2:30:32 AM
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(Looks up from Killzone 2)

Huh? Valve? Oh, you mean those Half Life guys? I already got a PC like everyone else in the world.

What? Left 4 Dead is coming to PS3? It wasn't that great on PC, so why should I bother with it again?

(Returns to Killzone 2)

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Mavfan321
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 4:21:10 AM

If you received a down thumb for disliking LFD someone needs to reassess their idea of a good game.

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wiiplay
Monday, May 24, 2010 @ 11:17:41 AM

@Mavfan321:
I agree, but for the wrong reasons.
I love Left 4 Dead, but at the same time, I hate it.
It's a love - hate relationship.
See, in my mind L4D2 feels and plays like a classic video game, which is what I think video games *should* be.
Um... The feeling, not the game.
It reminds me of what I felt like when I first played a video game. That feeling of amazement, of non-realistic physics, of fun.
And it's the fun that matters right? Who cares who makes the game, or what the game looks like, as long as it's fun. It doesn't even have to contain violence.

I think video games are losing their status. They are becoming a "real-life simulator", instead of a game.
Heavy Rain is an example.
LBP and Mod-Nation: Racers are one of the only *good* games that don't involve realism. MAG, Call Of Duty. Both war simulators.

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Banky A
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 8:51:07 AM
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Holy cow is Highlander Breaking Thumbs Limit?
+1

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The CEO
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 5:10:46 PM
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Valve is too stupid and lazy to make a PS3 game. Just look at old photos of Gabe Newell compared to new photos. Hes too busy stuffing his face to learn the PS3s architecture. Who cares anyways Valves games have sucked for awhile. Look at Left 4 Dead. Its a zombified version of Quake. So have another twinkie Gabe and STFU fatboy. PS3 owners dont need your crap games with shoddy outdated graphics. Whats up with the guy above me trying to sell crap on a game forum. Troll.

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Roach721
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 5:23:43 PM
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Valve is pathetic, all they do is talk crap bunch of conceited PS3 haters. Don't even try and cozy up too us now stay far far away, because we are if they ever plan on realesing a PS3 game...

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animalmother
Monday, May 24, 2010 @ 8:40:45 AM
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I say you guys do yourselves a favor, Psx X mods, don't bother reporting anything from this wortheless, lazy f***s ass. I read his explanation and i see alotta words that were used to mask his unwillingness to rise to a challenge that would be mutually beneficial to his firm and customers....IE; Lazy.

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