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Pachter: Fanboys - In Any Venue - Won't Ever Go Away

You may hate 'em, but industry analyst Michael Pachter says we still need 'em.

If you don't listen to the GameTrailers show Pach-Attack, you often miss interesting little nuggets of entertainment. In this most recent episode, the Wedbush Morgan analyst tackles the sensitive and potentially combustible "fanboy" subject; he doesn't restrict the term to games and initially says that one should "never discuss religion or politics with people" because depending on which you perceive to be the best option, you will always defend it to the death regardless of other facts or opinions. He goes on to add:

"I kinda wish on Game Trailers we would never discuss our console bias because if you won a PS3 you obviously made a big dollar decision to buy it and you love that PS3. And if you buy a 360 you made a big investment in that and you love that 360 and you know why? They’re both great! I’m leaving out the Wii, there’s tons of people who love the Wii as well, wasn’t quite as big an investment, but if you Nintendo games, of course you love the Wii."

Pachter than says fanboys were just "born to love the console they own," and that's that. He even goes and uses a personal analogy, 'cuz obviously, the dude is a Porsche "fanboy:"

"I have to tell you guys something...I drive a Porsche and you know what? Never will I own another car. It’s the best car on the road, I can’t believe that everybody else don’t have one but again, that’s cause that’s what I drive. Fanboys won’t ever go away, ever, ever ever, that’s what keeps the comments happening on this site, let’s see if we can get 10,000 comments on how I’m clueless about fanboys."

Well now, in our opinion, there are two things to add: firstly, there are fans and then there are fanboys. The former are simply fans of a certain system or game or what have you, but they are not consciously avoiding competing products without knowing anything about them, simply because they don't like the brand name on said products. Fanboys, of course, do that. And furthermore, we still say there's a distinct difference - likely due to the Internet - between the fanboy of 20 years ago and the fanboy of today. The fanboy of 20 years ago is the kind Pachter is describing; they just love what they have, and they'll promote its greatness. Today, nobody seems to be positive about it if they're biased; they're extremely hostile and rather than promoting their own preferences, they insult other people and their preferences.

It's actually not so complicated. PSXE, for instance, was designed for PlayStation fans. Not so hard to understand. But the Comments section isn't allowed to be loaded with hostile fanboy crap found at other sites and articles don't exist for the sole purpose of running down another brand. ...the site may be 11 years old but we're not 11. And Pachter, we know what you're sayin'. Sadly, many sites do need the fanboys. So you keep drivin' your Porsche. You love it. Have fun with it.  Nobody should have any problems with that whatsoever, right?

6/7/2010 10:37:21 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (72 posts)

Jawknee
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:01:12 AM
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It was never as bad as it is now when it was just Sega and Nintendo. Even when it was just the Xbox and the PS2 I never saw people argue like they do now. I have a friend who won't even buy multiplat games for his PS3 to play with me and his brother because his friends who hate Sony bicker at him for buying a PS3. He bought a PS3 for God of War III and they won't let him live it down. Instead of playing the game and seeing how much quality is acutally under the hood of that PS3 they just right it off and go back to Halo 3.

Seems to have gotten worse when MS sent out people like Aaron Greenburg to trash talk the competition and when sites like IGN sold their soul to MS for 30 pieces of silver.

EDIT: Get this, they also say God of War III's graphics are terrible and praise Halo but none of them even own an HD TV. they are all still playing their games in SD. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:11:28 AM

It's just the fanboy mentality. If it isn't self-delusional, it doesn't work.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:18:02 AM

It's an instant "facepalmer" when you hear some one bash the PS3 as if it's not worth the $300 when that person is likely on their 3rd or 4th Xbox.

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Natalisrubbish
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:18:20 AM

It is all too common Jawk. I know plenty of people around me that are similar. Although in my group of friends I was one of the first to get a PS3 (60 gig in Feb. 2007), over the years I've turned 3 of them onto ps3, enough to get one, including saving one of them the day they were planning on getting a 360. Needless to say all of them are very happy with PS3. Oh well, its great to be playing and owning a true next gen console that isn't the "waning," one hahah. There are still the angry ones that deep inside know PS3 is better but for some many years have heard the banter of their fellow fans of this classic 2006-2007 truth: "PS3 has no good games and the online sucks." Unfortunately for those poor souls their will never be a turn around in their console ideas because they have been damaged, there is no chance for them. When they refuse to listen to the logic of how many more quality exclusive games there are for Playstation 3 compared to Wii and 360, or that the online reliability is the same as 360, or how ps3 can do everything 360 can sans cross game chat...you just can't help them, you have to just laugh their jealous anger off and feel a little bit of pity that they might never experience the great things that the PS3 has to offer this generation. I digress and end my rant, so thanks Jawknee for reminding me of my pity for the still remaining ignoramus die-hard 360 fans, hahaha.

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jaybiv
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:26:12 AM

Third or fourth Xbox. Pure comedy!

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Jawknee
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:26:34 AM

The 360 would be fine if it didn't break down once a month and had more quality games(i.e. no screen tearing and better engines then Unreal) to offer as exclusives other then shooters. MS made a huge mistake not making a deal with the Blue Ray Disc Association. Like you said, its "waning."

Which really makes me wonder how Natal is going to fly. So many Xbox fans play shooters and only shooters. How are they going to sell Natal to these people?

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maxpontiac
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:09:19 PM

Microsoft created a monster.

A few years ago, the PS3 was trashed by nearly every media outlet. Microsoft themselves led the charge in several instances.

When it came to the PS3, it was the "price tag". That became the "lack of games". It moved to the "PSN sucks". Now? All I hear is crickets.

Strangely enough, I was more a Xbox fan at the start of this generation of gaming, but 5 RROD's later and my purchasing of a PS3 at launch changed my prospective forever.

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RadioHeader
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:17:44 PM

"Seems to have gotten worse when MS sent out people like Aaron Greenburg to trash talk the competition"

That's what done it for me. Especially since they should have been addressing their own major issues. I was subjected to 3 refurbished junkers within 10 months of handing over 300 quid. Never again Micro$haft, FU** YOU!

lol They really done a number on me. The hate is still stong like it just happened yesterday.

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 3:11:40 PM

<<<<<"Seems to have gotten worse when MS sent out people like Aaron Greenburg to trash talk the competition">>>>>

Which also "enabled all their rabid a-holes to go "astroturf" their competitor's sites with their trashtalking BS.

And.....if I remember right, wasn't MS actually caught numerous times paying them to do this???

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Jawknee
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 3:43:49 PM

Google Microsoft FUD.

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booze925
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 5:46:25 PM

its called bias, capitalism, and self-assurance jawk.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:14:38 PM

I must admit, I was tempted to go a 360 over PS3 when it first came out in 2007. Here's why:

1. 360 had a 1 year head-start, meaning more games on the shelves.

2. 360 had Gears of War, Mass Effect and Halo 3. PS3 had Resistence and Motorstorm. (I'm not saying they're bad games, this is just a comparison for the time)

3. All my friends have 360's and hooked them up online, so playing with friends was restricted to 360.

4. PS3 was $400, yes, $400!!! more expensive than than the 20GB 360 here in Australia.

In 2007, Sony was off to a very poor start. I nearly got the 360 over PS3, but then something happened in 2008.

1. Gears of War and Mass Effect came to PC. Halo 1 and 2 were available on PC too.

2. The PS3 dropped back/comp and other features and was $300AU cheaper.

3. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 1 and Heavenly Sword showed what the PS3 could do, and it really impressed everyone.

4. The 40GB PS3 - GTA IV bundle was released in time for my 21st birthday, so birthday cash + GTA IV = epic PS3 win for me.

I changed my HDD from a 40GB to a 320 GB laptop hard drive and never looked back.

I did eventually get that 60GB 360 with Gears 2 limited edition and Halo 3, along with some PS2 games like Bully, Burnout Revenge and the Tomb Raiders: Legend and Anniversary. But I've hardly touched it compared to the PS3.

Even the Wii is more fun than 360. But my hardcore gaming friends defend their 360's to the death, and lay hate on me for opening my mouth about how the PS3 is good too, if not better.

I have 1 friend who loves 360 so much, he went out and got a separate blu-ray player with a 360 and surround sound system, rather than just buying a PS3. He loves Halo and Gears, and Mass Effect, so much that he bought a 360 for all my friends' 21st birthdays. Yeah!!! He's that insecure to win everyone over!!!!

Half of those friends have now traded their 360's to a PS3 and FF XIII, Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain.

At EB games, a 360 trades for $40AU. A 120GB PS3 trades for $200. In the end, people realise the PS3 is worth 5 Xbox 360's. In technological and defective product terms, they are right.

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JDC80
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:52:25 PM

I never understood the hate Xbots have for the PS3, while I prefer the PS3 over the 360 I'm not roaming the internet looking for pro-360 sites trying to start fights with 360 fans.

It seems they rather spend their time site hoping or lurking around YouTube for pro or semi pro PS3 videos(that includes Pulse)than play on their 360s.

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manofchao5
Thursday, June 10, 2010 @ 12:38:32 PM

i dont consider any of the platforms to be the best
i have features i love on my ps3 but also features i wish i it had that the 360 does
(i like how the video defaults to 480i on it if you switch from hdmi to composite and theres a switch for component so it stays on that resolution since theres no detect for component)
oh and sry but i dont consider the wii a game console considering its slower than computers made back in the 90's

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Hazama
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:10:24 AM
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-- Edited for OT

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/7/2010 11:11:59 AM

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 3:14:22 PM


Fanboys are just "narcissist's" in training!!!!

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shadowpal2
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 3:51:17 PM

And in other news...Michael Pachter never seems to go away from making the most obvious claims IN THIS GENERATION OF OUR GAMING INDUSTRY.

THANKS.................PACHTER. I wish I had a Porsche TOO! =P

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 4:45:05 PM

It's no wonder fanboys are so enabled....Just check out all the MS astroturfing here....

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Microsoft+astroturfing&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=Microsoft+astroturfing&gs_rfai=&fp=62c7546c9e19fcb7

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:18:24 AM
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It all started in the playgrounds. "My Dad can beat up your Dad"..."My 360 can beat up your PS3"... It's in our genes. We can't help it. And it continues as you get older. Come on, you have all seen the bumper sticker..."My grandkids are cuter than your grandkids".

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Natalisrubbish
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:22:46 AM

Haha nice.

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Silent_J
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:22:17 AM
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To sum it all up FANBOYS = RETARDS

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FullmetalX10
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 6:14:14 PM

Damn, seemingly I'm mentally impaired -_-

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:35:41 AM
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Wait a minute. I think that is a self portrait of World!

World, did you not state in a past article that you like to play video games by yourself, sit very close to your tv screen, and I think you said you like to "crack a coke" when you play?

Now look at that picture...strike 1, strike 2, strike 3...THAT IS YOU!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 2:53:38 PM

lol, I hope I don't look that retarded when I'm playing. Good memory man :)

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 4:59:09 PM

HA! Yeah, and to think my wife says I don't listen.

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nogoat23
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:37:55 AM
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You were comparing fanboys from 20 years ago to fanboys today. I wonder if there is really no difference, and the internet's anonymity has just allowed more people to be ruder without consequence. I wonder if people back then would have been like fanboys today if they could post comments through a screen name instead of telling people face to face.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:52:43 AM

Your point is well taken.

Fanboys back then only had contact with their friends for the most part, or acquaintances. And for the most part, even though you may raz your friends, you are still somewhat civil. In fact, you were probably HAPPY that you had a Nintendo, and he had a PS1 or Dreamcast, because that meant he got to come to your house and play all your Nintendo games, and you got to go to his house and play Sonic games, or Tomb Raider games, etc.

But the internet has given birth to a whole new breed of animal. Now instead of having arguements with your buds Dave and Johnny, you now have arguements with people all over the world, whom you've never met before, and never will face to face, so you don't have to be accountable for your statements. You can be as rude as you please.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:58:38 AM

I believe there is a difference between the fanboys of 20 years ago and today. I can think back to my neighborhood back to the Atari and Colecovision days. Once Nintendo came out, there were still the Atari die hards. Then there was the Sega Genesis that released before the Super Nintendo. We argued which system was better but ultimately we played on both of them. I never got the Super Nintendo because I'd already invested in a Genesis but my friend had both. And we played on both. But I do remember that there were many games that were not available on both systems so we loved the variety. Fanboys back then still played on the "weaker" system because video games were still video games and we loved to play them all.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:29:35 PM

I did say that the change was partially due to the Internet but overall, yes, things are different.

I think it has something to do with growing self-esteem issues, too.

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Natalisrubbish
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 3:48:34 PM

@ Ben
Without a doubt I think that there are growing self esteem issues playing a part in the modern fanboy landscape.

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Hazama
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:02:59 PM
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Lol whats OT? im a forum Noob i spend my time playing games not talking bout them

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:05:14 PM

Hmmmm, probably Off Topic. Usually it is permitted, unless you went off the deep end.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:08:36 PM

Your posts were edited because you keep posting the same, off-topic, stuff in various comments sections. You don't need to keep posting it in a spam manner.

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Hazama
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:13:17 PM
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well i guess i,ll post something on topic i agree with jawknee about how fanboyism has gotten worse i was on ps home not a hour ago then a group of ppl came up saying xbox was better and saying halo 3 was better than UC2 i mean come on .. just prove the maturity of xbox gamers lol

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 2:56:30 PM

It IS pretty strange that people go into Home ON A PS3 obviously, just to trash talk PS3.

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Natalisrubbish
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 6:21:53 PM

I can almost guarantee the were probably just trying to rile people up and get some reactions, probably just F-in around.

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Hazama
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:17:06 PM
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ohh sorrry ben doing this on ps3 its hard laptops being repaired some genius tried 2 put a printer cable in the ethernet port ........... computer knowledge fail on there part wont happen again ive been reading this site 4 about a year just thought id actually post something 4 once lol im rambling sorry

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:30:37 PM

It's fine. Just stick to the topics in the comments for articles.

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DeathOfChaos
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:32:58 PM
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I stay away from the 360 because there are no games worth to me to buy a 360 for and the ones that are worth it for me are already on a system that I own. Plus, all the games that are REALLY good were once on the 360, and then an international version was done for the PS3 that has like 50% more stuff and all on one disc anyway, lol. I know about the 360 and look at the games it has to offer, but none of them are enough to get me to buy a 360.

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Douchebaguette
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:39:31 PM
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I thought Patcher was supposed to analyse & predict, not state the obvious.


Ben is correct on there being a difference between a fan & a fanboy, so I'll add to his point by explaining the cause of a typical "fanboy."

Being a fanboy, you will obviously argue against future fanboys of the opposition. You may prove yourself to be intimidating or righteous, but whatever theme it is, no matter what product you're defending, fanboyism will always be a sugarcoated profile of just about how insecure you really are. At life in general.


For example: just like the idiots who keep bragging that Brock Lesnar could "destroy" Fedor Emelianenko; Dana White [what a douche] keeps bashing him, yet when did Fedor ever talk or even bothered comparing himself against other people? His pride? He doesn't care if he loses or not. Pride is fear.

The one who ultimately wins a battle is the one that never realised there was a battle to begin with, and Fedor pretty much does that. Basically fanboys bash and argue for the sake of shooing their insecurities, retaining their "pride" [ironically feeding their fears]. But no matter what happens, fear doesn't go away by fighting. This is why all fanboys are destined to fail, no matter how much difference they make for themselves.


Rant end.


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Douchebaguette
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:46:04 PM

Foak, shouldn't of said "rant end." It looks so cheesy.

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Banky A
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:04:05 AM

Kefka makes it non-cheesy. Mmmmmmm.

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ro kurorai
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 12:42:55 PM
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I'm actually glad there are fanboys around various sites. I mean, c'mon: Can you imagine a DF Face-Off or LoT's H2H article without all those pathetic losers who try to convince everybody else how amazing 'their' console is and how crappy the other one is?! I can't.
I mean it's fun to read through all those baseless flame-comments and laugh at them ^^.

I'm glad you guys (and I) can enjoy and play games rather than fighting verbally with others which version/console is superior.

If I wanna have a good laugh I check out DF's/EG's/LoT's comments sections; if I wanna read serious comments of gamers/fans rather than fanboys I choose PSXE.

Can't comment on fanboys of 20 years ago, though. But I guess Internet anonymity and a significant percentage of immature console owners clearly contribute to fanboy-mannerisms.

cheers

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JackC8
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 1:15:17 PM
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It's just human nature. Go to any discussion board on the internet and you'll find exactly the same thing. On a car board, the Chevy guys say Fords suck, the Ford guys say Chevys suck. On a musician's board, some guys hate a certain band or style of music, others defend it to the end. Go to a movie board and you'll find indignant 1,000 word posts made by people who absolutely love a certain movie and anyone who disagrees with them is ignorant and of low breeding. Sports - goes without saying. My team is the best, your team sucks, and you only won that game because the referee was a moron. Etcetera.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 1:15:47 PM
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I understand why some people like the Xbox 360. What bothers me is that these same people are willing to spend the extra money to pay for online gaming, pay for themes and pictures, pay for peripherals like a battery charger or, here in Canada, pay $10 more for games and said peripherals. Then they come online and blast PS3 owners out of spite anywhere they can.

It makes no sense. Why are they paying more than they should? Just to maintain a hip quotient with teenage boys?

Watch how after the E3 MS presser they will proclaim Project Natal as the greatest thing in gaming.

Fanboyism will never go away. We all know that. However, I can't see how anybody could be proud of the very stormy history of the Xbox 360.

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Clamedeus
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 1:30:14 PM
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Oh! just remembered, a couple days ago when me and my clan buddies were playing MW2, this dude with an XBOX clan tag got his A** handed to him he went like 5-16, and he said "Oh by the way, PS3 sucks XBOX is better" logs out of the lobby.

And what amazes me is, if it sucks, then why are you here on PS3? rofl

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Underdog15
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 2:20:01 PM

Maybe it was a friends account, and he just put in the XBOX clan tag himself?

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Clamedeus
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 2:25:55 PM
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I doubt it, but anything is possible.

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Underdog15
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 2:26:18 PM
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I'm a 'fan' of the Playstation based more on my past experiences in earlier generations more so than what I see now, although I am encouraged by what I see PS doing now.

I actually used to own an XBOX 360, I had an XBOX live account, and had fun with a small handful of games. My fandom in PS3 got me a 60gig system at launch (actually, a pre-order a month prior, for which I camped outside an EBGames with a buddy... sidenote, some old guy saw us at midnight and offered us 10$ and told us to eat something... LOL. Kinda embarrassing when we turned it down and told him what we were REALLY there for).

Anyways, I sold my XBOX360 and games to buy an engagement ring (2 yr. anniversary today actually!). I had to choose which one to sell, and decided to keep the PS3 because I thought maybe the technology would get me more longevity. Also, I didn't know FF13 would be multi-plat. (A huge reason I got the PS3 in the first place......) For me, it was a choice based solely on the style of my use, plus the nostalgia I had from the PS1 and PS2 days.

I had terrific fun on XBOX live, to be honest, but I don't really notice any difference between that and PSN, other than the $50 i can spend on a game instead. Truly just personal preference. I'm not a fanboy, because I'm well informed, and the PS3 is the best fit for me and my gaming style. That is all!

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FullmetalX10
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 6:21:14 PM

Gratz on tha anniversary!

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packersfan66
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 2:49:09 PM
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We should ask Pachter when the next year Jesus Christ will roam the earth he seems to have all the answers here.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 3:07:42 PM
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I would like to add a third category to which I subscribe, which is the Fanman. A fully grown guy, veteran gamer, who is at least relatively versed in technology and refuses to give up good money for faulty products and over-hyped games to a company with destructive and unethical business practices.

I'll say one thing about early gaming, it was always clear which system was better because the two versions of a multiplat were clearly different due to the systems. Just look at Mortal Kombat. Now they are different due to developer folly and even developer fanboyism.

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 4:39:40 PM
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I'm a gamer first, which means I a fan of all consoles, so I have both the 360 & the PS3, and I enjoy playing games on both.

But other than buying a new 250gig CODMW bundled 360 last year, MS will never even get another penny from me cause I hate the totally immoral acting MS company with a passion.
So that also means that I'll never buy their any of their games new(not even on sale), and only used & super cheap.
I won't buy their add-ons or DLC, & I'll never ever buy "Live"(even though they continually try to hustle me by email into taking a full month of Live for only $1).

But of course, I DO enjoy my PS3, and all it's exclusive games much more than the 360 too

At my job, there are 2 "Lost Cause" gamers (believe me when I tell you that I'm using the word "gamers" loosely here) & they both only have 360's.
And even though I've constantly tried to get them to even "think(and I say the word "Think" loosely here too)about getting a PS3, they're stuck on their 360's like infestation of dung beetles hell-bent on eating a great big hot steaming pile of elephant sh!t.

They're always bragging about their 360's.
One of them is always bragging about how he ONLY PLAYS FPS, and is ranked 30something thousand, as if he's some f*cking big deal shooter.

And the other one said that he sold his PS3 last year cause it had no games, HA the the sign of a f*cking loser, never mind just being a fanboy!!!!!
And he just paid someone recently to mod-out his "bot box", so now he's been constantly bragging how he downloaded AC2, The Sabateur, and a numerous amount of other multi-plat games for FREE.

I got really frigging tired of hearing it, so I asked him that if everyone started dl'ing their games illegally for free, doesn't he think that those companies could fail & fold & then there wouldn't be any games for him to DL at all?

His only response was "I don't care"

So of course, I just had to put him in his place by belittling him in front of everyone else, just by saying "Of course you don't care, thieves never f*cking care about anyone but themselves, do they"?
Then I just had to twist the the knife in his back a little more, so I then asked him "So while we're at it, tell me something else, does our boss also know you're a thief yet too"?

And with that said, I just walked away while leaving him standing there in shock trying to comprehend what I just said in front of everyone.

Motto of the story is.....F*ck fanboys!

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tes37
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 5:02:43 PM
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Nice article Ben. I believe your definition makes a lot more sense. Pachter has a nice way of making everyone look more intelligent than him. I'm starting to like this guy.

I purchase items based on research and which ones I believe to be a quality product. If I like a brand I tend to stick with it unless I grow dissatisfied or feel let down.

It seems he's equating individuality and freedom of choice with being a fanboy.

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FM23
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 6:18:18 PM
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@ Bikersaint.....Hilarious. I think people who only believe in one belief are pretty delusional. From consoles to religion, people always stick to one taught belief and feel everything is wrong without any comprehension of what they hate. I used to hate the celtics, actually watched them play through the playoffs and now I kind of want them to beat the Lakers. Conflicting ideas are normal, but bias opinions without knowledge are just ridiculous.

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FullmetalX10
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 6:37:50 PM
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I went to this meeting the other day.
I walked in to a room occupied by 12 people sitting in chairs in a big circle, with about 4 chairs unused, I pulled one back and joined the group.
After blending in with the people, introducing myself and whatnot, a tall, bold middle aged man entered the room and turned one of the 3 empty chairs around, where after he sat himself down on it, facing the group.
Everyone sat up, blending in, I did too.
'Today we have a new member in our group.' The bold man said.
He signed me to get up with a quick wave of his hand. I put both my hands on my upper legs and got off my chair. I sighed once.
'My name is Dzyan'
'Hello Dzyan.' The group responded.
'And I'm a fanboy'


yeah, I guess you guys get what I'm saying. If I could have it my way, every screen and of course gaming media(and media player overall as in dvd/blu-ray and sound department) would be from the Sony brand.
NO samsung and especially no xbox(duh, Sony fanboy o.O), also computers would be Apple, as would phones.

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:30:45 PM

FullmetalX10,
Want to know something, you are NOT a fanboy when you can actually poke fun at yourself like you just did.

A real fanboy is too narcissistic to ever make fun of himself for anything he does.

BTW, the fanboy's brain is also instantly struck down & is partial eaten away by a R.E.1,2,3,4,or 5, type rabies virus the very first time he thinks he's being laughed at.

Last edited by BikerSaint on 6/7/2010 10:33:09 PM

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 11:03:19 AM

I guess being a Playstation fanboy is just different than being a 360 fanboy, I can make fun of myself, because I know Playstation will be in theory, practice and facts always better than xbox.
Or I'm just someone who has a big distaste for xbox(M$) and samsung(I just don't like em, it's in my brainz)...

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NonProphet
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 8:03:53 PM
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Thanks for the new pic Ben, I was getting tired of that profile shot of Pacman...much appreciated.

And while our man Pachter can be a doofus, I doubt he spends his time ripping on people that own Toyota's or BMW's. I like to think most people on this site feel the same way about consoles, you may have a preference for one console but hopefully we're not concerned with trying to convince other people they're wrong if their preferences differ from ours. I think opinions on almost everything are like this actually, whether its religious, political philosophical etc, generally trying to convert people with conflicting views to your way of thinking is an exercise in futility.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 8:28:56 PM
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as owner of both systems i just have one thing to say to the fanboys of both systems

"CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!!?!!" *goes back to playing God of War 3 on the Ps3 and Halo 3 on the 360*

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Jawknee
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:01:08 PM

I don't know if its a good thing or a bad thing your still playing Halo 3.

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Qubex
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 8:36:00 PM
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I say live and let live.... even though I still don't like the fact that the 360 has had so much success in the past, but that is changing :)

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

*Currently in Phenom Pehn, Kingdom Of Cambodia

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CharlesD
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:45:50 PM
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I really, and I mean really can't stand xbox fanboy idiots. Why?? Because they represent all that is ignorant and wrong in this world. lol jk that's more than a step too far but really they tend to be quite senseless.

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Temjin001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:55:59 PM
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I watched that segment myself, and I, too, find his vids interesting.

I'm shooting from the hip on this, but I believe there are other influencing factors that cause human favoritism outside of investment reasons alone.

I do know their are a good deal of gamers who have invested in more than one platform this gen and, yet, they still favor, even aggressively, a particular platform.

And to magnify this some more.

If Pachter's claim were true. Why are their so many flame wars over games on one existing platform ?
Tekken or Virtua Fighter? Better yet, 2D fighters vs. 3D fighters (we've all heard that one before, right?)
Final Fantasy or Dragon Age? Killzone or Call of Duty?

Surely gamers who have invested into a PS3 can afford, at some point, more than one game. Yet, fanboy remarks still exist.

Coke or Pepsi? Whoppers or Big Macs? I'm sorry Pachter, I like you, and I like philosophical perspectives on behavior. But, logically, I don't see your investment claim strong enough to offer a definitive answer.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:45:18 AM
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I have only one thing to say to this... Sexiest.

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___________
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 3:17:03 AM
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you have to admit though it is extremely funny.
i just sit back and laugh my a$$ off when anything like that happens.
i really dont remember it being this bad though i mean when i went to school there were people who preferred nintendos over the dreamcast but it never got this bad.
i must say though ps3 fanboys are the worst, or SDF as i like to call them.
there by far the most defensive and always like to take the high ground as if there much more superior.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 7:18:12 AM

I think you have it the wrong way. I'm sure 360 users are just as defensive and think they are more superior as well.

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___________
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 8:26:32 AM

no there no where near as defensive or superior.
they just say everything on ps3 sucks thats not being defensive or superior.
SDF act as if there better, the ps3 is the most powerful thing ever connived much more powerful than the sun blah blah blah.
completley ignoring the fact that there are many things out there that are much more powerful than the ps3, my gaming PC for example would kick the sh*t out of the ps3.
DX11 V DX7 yeah thats a simple one!

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:23:55 PM

Why am I not suprised by your statement?

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___________
Wednesday, June 09, 2010 @ 7:57:08 AM

why am i not surprised about yours?

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Lanmanna
Wednesday, June 09, 2010 @ 3:32:44 PM
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All fanboys fail.

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Caanimal
Thursday, June 10, 2010 @ 4:26:39 PM
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The term "fanboy" refers to anyone who is vocal about something they like, that isn't limited to video games, and most likely originated w/ sports, just look at all the people who paint their face and bodies and are ready to get into fights w/ "the other side", those are the classic "fanboys". So this guy saying they are never going to leave, all I can say is "Uh Duh"...

When it comes to the video game aspect I have seen some extreme stuff, from all factions. I frequent the boards on GameFAQs.com and most days the only reason the general PS3 board is so active is because of the Xbots trying to start stuff. I don't understand this mentality, spending hours a day roaming a board just to start crap.

I'm sure every PS3 owner w/ friends who favor or favored the 360 have some very interesting stories to tell. I myself have a friend who bought a total of 4 Elite 360s shortly after launch, 2 for his family (himself & his kids play) and the others going to his brother and sister's family. The 4 systems he bought have since been repaired/replaced a total of 10 times until he gave up on all of them and bought PS3s for him and his kids, his sister and brother bought their own PS3s also. He does have 1 working 360 still but will not buy any more nor repair it when it does break. This story doesn't have a totally happy ending though, of the 2 80 Gig systems he bought 1 has had to be repaired once...

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