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Square-Enix Doesn't Want To Expand, They Want New Fans

I've only considered the possible conclusion for several years but after the publisher's most recent announcement, I'm now convinced.

With every new unveiling, it seems as if Square-Enix is intent on informing everyone of the company's intention to "expand" their fan base. ...but that's not what they're doing. "Expanding" means that you build on what you already have; it means you retain that which has prompted the reason for growth. In other words, for a video game developer and publisher, it means they produce entertainment products that cater to both their established fanbase and a new group of gamers. However, it seems painfully obvious that such is not the way; ever since they announced they desire to "expand Westward" and opened their LA studio, it's clear they only wish to appeal to a new audience, while leaving the loyal audience behind. They had the foundation but instead of building upwards - which is what they claim to be doing - they essentially took a wrecking ball to that foundation and started construction on a new building.

I'm not saying Dungeon Siege III won't be good (although my confidence in Obsidian isn't very high), and I'm not saying I didn't enjoy past titles like Final Fantasy XIII. I'm saying that just about everything new from Square-Enix shows either an extreme lack - or is entirely devoid - of the very elements and features that made millions fall in love with Squaresoft all those years ago. Granted, the immediate argument for such a move is that progression and advancement means leaving old-fashioned ideas and mechanics behind, but you can boast innovation while retaining your fans. It really is possible. All I see is a company that suddenly has zero interest in Japanese gamers (let's face it; FFXIII sold like crazy on name-brand recognition alone), and continues to lump all Western gamers into the same group: the twitchy, must have crazy machismo in order to be entertaining, neanderthal crowd.

All I've got to say to that is, "thanks for repaying my loyalty with your assumption." You know, I'm suddenly reminded of the time when S-E brought up the idea of a Final Fantasy VII remake at their Twitter page, and the page exploded...and S-E was surprised. They were actually surprised, as if they really didn't know there were millions of old Squaresoft fans still out there; fans who may appreciate something like Deus Ex: Human Revolution but still miss the classic Square feel. And why is S-E basically only publishing now; do they only develop for Nintendo, or something? I think the bottom line is clear, and it's depressing for those who stare at their PS1 collections, realizing in dismay that in Square-Enix there is little to no semblance remaining of Squaresoft. They don't want to add to their fans (many of whom have already lost hope); they want to get new ones. Well, whatever. Seems illogical to me, but what the hell do I know?

6/7/2010 9:14:32 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (113 posts)

ShadowRunner
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:35:48 PM
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I'm not interested in any S-E announcements/news anymore.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:19:14 PM

Everytime S-E opens its mouth lately, all we get is disappointment.

If I were a stockholder, I'd sell all my shares with S-E before it's too late.

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Underdog15
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:42:52 PM

In all honesty, it's like that old high school sweetheart you're still in love with. They've broken up with you, and you've even moved on to newer things. But it still stings whenever they start flirting or being enamored with someone else.

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bridgera
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 11:30:26 AM

That sounds about right.

I waited until I could get FFXIII for $40, maybe I'll checkout Versus and Agito, but other than that, I think I'm about done with that series.

Oh how it'll be missed.

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Fane1024
Saturday, June 12, 2010 @ 5:40:04 PM

Plus, it sometimes burns when you pee.

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tes37
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:48:01 PM
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I thought SE had lost their identity for a while, but it's obvious they threw it away.

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Hezzron
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:54:53 PM
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Looks like the feelings between Square-Enix and gamers is turning into a hate-hate relationship. This should only get more interesting.

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Victor321
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:55:15 PM
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I believe the main reason in S-E doing everything you've mentioned in your article Ben, is because they most likely assume that their fans of the Squaresoft days, are either:

1. extremely small now, in terms of how many there are

2. much older (not exactly 60, but not 20 either), and therefore don't play as much games anymore; therefore, they don't see a need to cater to that audience (here, I am assuming that they are assuming that guys like you Ben, don't exist anymore, and they may know this by marketing research, for example)

3. part of the immensely large "twitch twitch must have crazy machismo" group of gamers (i.e. Today's largest segment of young gamers; I am not saying all young gamers are like that, because there are young gamers [Moi for example] that love games with stories and depth, and by young, I'm ranging from 12-16)

These are all of course, assumptions, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if this is all true.

On a sidenote, I remember reading an extensive interview from another gaming site on FFXIII with a couple guys at S-E (sorry, I forgot their names) saying that, with every new FF installment, they always strive to continually appease their existing fanbase (they said, "the ones that have always been with them") while picking up new fans in the process. Win-win for them, win-win for us no? I'm sorry I couldn't provide a link.

Oh, how times have changed (this interview was only from Summer 09!!!).


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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:22:44 PM

The tide changed with the announcement of FF XIII coming to 360 as well.

Remember all that buzz about content and towns being cut-out for the 360 version?

Final Fantasy games were all GOTY contenders. I don't think FF XIII is going to get a single nomination on the Western side.

As for Japan sales of FF XIII, its clear they came from name brand alone.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:43:14 AM

Victor: Oh, I well understand WHY Square-Enix is doing what they're doing and how they think. I just don't believe their reasoning is sound. Obviously, we're not all twitch gamers now, we're not stopping gaming because we're older, and the Square fans are just as loyal as ever.

But oh well...guess S-E will never know that.

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Victor321
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 3:05:09 PM

I know you know that Ben =), it's just sad that they (Square Enix) don't....so sad....

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Hellfire
Friday, June 11, 2010 @ 10:26:43 AM

Victor,

I'm a few days late to this topic, but oh well.

I just wanted to point out that there are quite a few ~20 old school SE fans out there. I live in a house with three other guys and we're all in our early twenties and have all been playing final fantasy games our entire lives. We get into heated debates on a daily basis about characters from Final Fantasy 4 and 6, and whether the magic system in Final Fantasy 1 sucked or not. And yes, we spend hundreds of dollars a month on video games.

We are out there, and spending tons of money. I just wish SE knew that.

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Fane1024
Saturday, June 12, 2010 @ 5:57:46 PM

When I was thinking (yesterday) of how great the first half of the year has been and how there have already been more legitimate GOTY contenders than in some full years (about a dozen), FFXIII didn't even come to mind. That speaks volumes.

The list: Alan Wake, Battlefield BC2, Bayonetta, BioShock 2, GOW III, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, MGS Peace Walker, Mod Nation, Red Dead, and Super Mario Galaxy 2. I'm probably missing something (3D Dot, Just Cause, Split/Second, SSFIV) that'll get some votes. Not to mention the downloadable games.

That's a helluva year and we aren't even at E3.

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coverton341
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 9:56:27 PM
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It is a sad realisation but I am right there with you Ben.

S-E is interested in taming the "western" market now and they could not care less about the original fan base. I place the blame on the explosion of FPS game sales. I'm not necessarily saying that the FPS genre is bad, if it were then it wouldn't have had such a boom. What I am saying is they saw the power of the dollar in action and decided that they must emulate it.

What they seem to fail to realise is that the FPS boom happened because FPS games make for great multiplayer-online experiences. And what is different about this console generation than those previous? Online is much more accessible. TADA!

Do they realise a lot of gamers are starting to back off of buying the next big FPS just because it is an FPS? Do they not realise that just because there was that boom it did not necessarily mark a paradigm shift(that isn't there as a pun) in the interest of all gamers?

There are still us out there that love RPG. We love turn-base. WE BUY FFVII AND FF:T ON THE PSN LIKE MAD!!!

Highlander always has a good argument that the gamer audience is segmented or some such, don't know the exact term he uses, but dammit he's right. Not everyone likes the same thing. And by god S-E did not get to be as big as they are making COD games.

There, I'm fricken done.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:14:45 PM

Their focus (pun intended) is easily translated: "We want Modern Warfare 2 type sales and we are willing to sh*tcan every masterpiece we once made in order to do it while sacrificing any and all semblance of artistic influence to achieve said commercial endeavor."

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:18:07 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself World.

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Nynja
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 7:49:26 AM

Maybe while they are working with Kojima, they'll learn to stop worrying about what gamers like and just make the game they want.

I need a new MGS fix for my PS3.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:08:19 PM
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I have never witnessed such self destructive behavior. I got a news flash, people don't like a big middle finger in their face. Talk about being out of touch with gamers and reality. Just bear in mind your direction is the beginning of your downfall and prepare to lose a lot of money making games nobody wants.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:14:31 PM

I'm to the point where if SE really doesn't deliver soon I'm not going to care when they go under. In fact I'll be the person there outside their studio as they announce they are closing down saying "I told you so!" as I point and laugh at their stupidity.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:15:39 PM

I'll be right there with you ready to take a leak on their carcass.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:24:50 PM

I'm waiting for stock and revenue to take a massive slide too.

S-E have lost their freakin' minds. Unless they create a shooter with better graphics, better mechanics and more addictive gameplay than MW2, all they're doing is driving away the millions of fans who stuck by them in the first place.

Like World said, it's like middle finger to the fans who have been with them all along.

After all these disappointing announcements and horrible PR developments, I am actually hoping, yes, HOPING that S-E will go bankrupt, just so they learn their lesson.

Video gaming quality has taken such a huge dive with the success of the Wii and COD games. I weep for the future of this industry, especially if companies strive for quick cash grabs with mediocre brain-dead gaming products.

MEGA 64: In the year 2024, Activision presents New Mario Brothers 12!!!

"NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!"

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:33:29 PM

They can release a game with Final Fantasy on it, and it'll sell millions.
It's what I wish too but I just can't see it happening.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:34:08 PM

@dancing machine,
And even if they did create said shooter, they would lose basically all their current fans.

@World,
Thats after you cut them down with your sword right?

@Snaaaake,
I wish that wasn't true but at this stage it seems so. Hopefully one day everyone will realize their disservice to us.


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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:44:01 AM

It is indeed self-destructive behavior. Perfect term for it.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:12:27 PM
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"You know, I'm suddenly reminded of the time when S-E brought up the idea of a Final Fantasy VII remake at their Twitter page, and the page exploded...and S-E was surprised."

...something I said?

In order for Square the keep my interest they need to announce KH3 at E3. I'm fed up with waiting which I have been doing for almost 4 years now. Also fix the horrid magic system from the second game so its more like the first and don't you dare make it exclusive.

Honestly not too long ago I used to see a RPG developed by SE and not knowing anything about it, automatically being intrigued by it and inclined to pick it up.

Those days are gone now, and now I'm upset.

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 11:41:21 AM

"and don't you dare make it exclusive."

Umm, am I reading this wrong? I think I am.

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laxpro2001
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 3:32:43 PM

nope im just an idiot, meant it the other way around obviously. thanks

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dragonx_HD
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:14:23 PM
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What type of new fan is going to invest in a company who is going to abandon them as soon as the market trend changes? Your reputation sets a precident on how you are going to proceed in the future. I wouldn't trust them for a second.

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coverton341
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:27:56 PM

Oddly enough though a lot of people here did including me. As soon as CD became a better solution than cart they ditched Nintendo to do work on Sony machines. I guess we all should have seen this type of thing coming at some point.

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:30:57 PM

Good point coverton.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:32:11 PM

You make a solid point Coverton, but they went with CDs in order to realize their vision for Final Fantasy VII, this time the only vision they have is dollar signs.

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:34:31 PM

Not only that, it's genre changing move!!!!

Not a revolutionary move!!!

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:38:00 PM

Excellent point coverton! I agree with you there world 100%

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:57:41 PM

@dragon,
That would be true but think of the other people who play video games you know. How many of them actually stay up to date on news? Furthermore how many of them can actually name more than 5 publishers and developers? Finally how many of them play games aside from sports games developed by EA and MW2?

chances are you probably are one of the more informed gamers in your group of friends, then again I could be completely wrong, but my friends are exactly what I described up there.

While all gamers aren't that bad, a lot don't pay too much attention to the news or things outside their realm of playing video games. They won't be aware of how SE dicks over their loyal fans and the same is likely to happen to them without them having the slightest idea thats its been done before.

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:22:58 PM
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FFXIII is the last main FF I'm playing, and the last Square Enix games I'll be playing will be Versus XIII and Kingdom Hearts 3.

After that one Square Enix fan will be gone.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:35:02 PM
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SE is a business, making games is a business, but screwing customers shouldn't be a part of that business. You want to make a ton of money? Fine by me, but you have to listen to the gamers. Like Ben said, it's insane that they were surprised an FFVII remake invited so much attention.

At least there are a few companies that can take over for SE. I just hope another series pops up that makes them go "Why did that company's JRPG outsell our Super Terrific Western FPS?"

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:39:07 PM

Agree, my hate for them going multiplat was only temporary, but the hate for ditching us will last forever.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:43:30 PM

S-E only focus on sales and money. They don't give a crap about review scores.

Hopefully as more casual gamers turn hardcore, people will pay more attention to quality games, and the sales numbers will follow.

With Activision pushing COD and Halo now, we're in for a dark age and a possible repeat of 1982's video game crash. The hardcore have lost, the casual Wii crowd won. Square has abandoned their fans, and Western games are of higher quality than JRPGs. Japanese devs try to capture that crowd, but to no avail, thus leaving the JRPG enthusiast and long-time fan behind in the shadows.

Oh what dark times we live in.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:02:01 PM

@dancemachine,

How do you expect more casual gamers to turn into hardcore games with the current trend in video games?

Aside from Demons Souls and Ninja Gaiden, I can't remember the last games that challenged me. Also the fact that Demons Souls didn't even break a million yet is appalling especially considering the amazing quality of it.

Sorry but I think the sad truth is hardcore gamers are going to become more of a niche as casual games become more popular.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:16:31 PM

Sad times we live in Laxpro.

For COD and Halo to outsell Uncharted 2 and MGS4, and Demon's Souls, and God of War 3, all bigger GOTY competitors, just shows how far our once awesome industry has declined.

Wii Fit and Wii Play are the biggest selling games of this gen, what does that tell you?

Basically S-E are abandoning the hardcore fans for the uncaring, unknowing casual crowd who know nothing about them or their past.

Time to take ol' Essie (S-E) out the back with the farm rifle. She's damaged beyond repair.

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laxpro2001
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:57:01 AM

Well put dancemachine

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:38:18 PM
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Squaresoft spent so much time and money building a fantastic reputation of quality RPG's under their name, and now they want to destroy it for new COD fans under Square Enix?

WHY!?!?!?!

Sales of FF XIII didn't help. Worst FF reviewed compared to other major FF titles, and yet it's the highest selling. Why?

Brand recognition. If it hadn't been "Final Fantasy XIII", I think the review scores would have been 2 points lower all around. Sure it looks pretty, but pretty can only do so much.

After hearing this announcement, I became so sad that my favourite RPG developer has shot itself in the heart and replaced it with a mechanical one that pumps artificial blood 5 times faster. As a metaphor, I mean artificial games with no real substance or heart made to make a quick buck.

Developers like S-E need to understand, COD was popular cos it was one game all your friends would play on their 360's or PS3's, meaning it was one title you could be certain of buying that would last you a long while online.

MW2 had the social gamer crowd, anyone with a console who could play a shooter. Very few developers could tap that crowd, especially if they're all just FPS fans with itchy trigger fingers.

S-E, please understand that these people have already made a choice to buy MW2 and COD games for a social experience with friends. You can't tap that market!!!! Your only chance is to retain your loyal old fans and expand with new ones, not dump them in favour of capturing the twitch gamer crowd, they don't care about your games!!!! REALLY!!!!

I am over S-E, I really am. Final Fantasy Vs XIII may be the last S-E game I get solely from them. And if they go multiplat with that one, God help us all.

R.I.P. Squaresoft. The memories you gave us will always remind us of what quality gaming was all about in the Golden Age of video games, 1985-2005. Your fans will miss you.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:45:32 PM

date should be 1985 -2006 at least. Can't forget KHII

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:47:20 PM
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Sorry to bring this example again. But it kinda reminds me of Metallica and how they wanted to "move on with the times."

It really is sad
The only thing we can do now is appreciate the OTHER jrpgs out there, Ar Tonelico, Agarest War, Shin Megami, White Knight Chronicles, etc.

Final Fantasy was special though. You always looked forward to EVERY character in the game. I still remember wondering what Tidus was going to be like and if Yuna was just going to be a dumb/useless 'princess.' Then in XII I wondered what Basch was like and if he was interested in Ashe and what the whole relationship with Balthier and Fran was like.

I wonder when they'll announce FFXV. Sadly I don't see it being announced this year.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:56:11 PM

Ar Tonelico III looks like it's coming Stateside, that game looks like some good old fashioned JRPG fun.

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Mystearica
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:48:48 PM
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Ahem... which is why they are considering bringing Versus to the 360.

Link: kotaku.com/5541802/final-fantasy-versus-xiii-on-xbox-360-squares-looking-into-it

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 3:38:26 AM

thats old and the update he made on his twitter account had a bit of backtracking. I do think it will find its way on the 360. I dont trust a word that Wada says, i just wish they would have stated it was going multiplatform from the get go, whats the point of lying about it?

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Kiryu
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 10:50:40 PM
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Infamous 2 FIRST SCANS!!!
Goto this link Now!
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=110903&page=1&str=899447082

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:45:01 AM

OT, OT, OT...

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:07:18 AM

Ben, deal with him...as only you know how.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:01:49 PM
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They are expanding at the expense of their old fans. This tells me that every here on out will likely be multiplat. Square will ever be ahead of the best again.

E3...Versus XIII multiplat announcement is coming.

>_<

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:02:46 PM

Followed by some dumb KH game announcement for the iPhone >:o

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Mystearica
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:26:56 PM

Yeah - my post about has a link where they say "they are considering it"... but my post needs approval

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:02:45 PM
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Surely it would have been better to go ahead and expand to make money off a certain market, but then keep a section of your company just to please the millions who like things a certain way. Once upon a time the only good games were Japanese, but with this type of nonsense and fan-bashing going on I can see why it has flip flopped.

I'm no analyst but I can't see it working out in the long run. It'd be like Pizza Hut only selling that pasta of theirs and nixing the pizza. It wouldn't work.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:03:24 PM

good analogy

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Bromus398
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:04:42 PM
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I completely agree with you, Ben. S-E has become my poster child for disappointing this generation. I just don't get what the hell happened. They went from developing consistently solid games to publishing a broad variety of mediocre to crap games. I don't understand it - why you would abandon the very crowds that made you profitable in the first place. Wouldn't it make more sense to cater to your hardcore fans and find ways within that to appeal to a broader audience? I understand it from a bottom-line marketing perspective, but that same perspective is ruining companies left and right. It's a shallow, short-sighted attempt to make money - especially in today's market where people have access to the internet for reviews and other people's opinions on products (especially popular ones).

That said, I've pretty much lost all faith in S-E. Unless they release one of my mainstay titles and it looks like it will kick ass beyond all shadow of a doubt (which is basically down to Kingdom Hearts 3), I'm done buying their products. Maybe if they return to the verge of ruin, they'll get their act back together.

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:07:45 PM
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My Dad owns a printing business.

If he were to drop all his loyal small and medium business clients for one big one with lots of money, would he be praised? Would that be an intelligent? No!!! Of course not!!!

This is exactly what S-E is doing.

The intelligent thing is to cater to your loyal clients/fans from whom you get the majority of your money. But cutting them off and risking one venture with a big business is like shouting from the rooftops you want to drive your company to the ground.

S-E SHOULD cater to their fans and listen to their demands, while trying to create an action game on the side that combats COD and tries to attract those large number of twitch gamers.

S-E are slowly killing themselves. When the hell are they finally going to fire that idiot President of theirs and get someone intelligent who ACTUALLY LISTENS to their fans!?!?!?!

There will be a lot of angry or sad faces at the Square-Enix booth at E3 this year.

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Alienange
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:08:02 PM
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Bang on the money here Ben. The surprise expressed by SE over a FFVII remake was, to me, a complete embarrassment for them.

They'll go off into publishing world and never develop their own decent game again. Young people will soon look at us old timer gamers and wonder what we were smoking to say that SE used to make good games.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:10:54 PM

I like to add. . . do any of you bought FF7 Advent Children Complete? You know, the blu ray? Hmm, I wonder what the figures are? Hmm. . . makes you wonder if there even is a fanbase for FF7

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Underdog15
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:45:47 PM

You mean the blu-ray collectors edition I can't find ANYWHERE and had to buy over the internet? I have 2 copies.

EDIT: There's also a large number of people who didn't care for the DVD release. They love FF7 the game, but didn't like advent children. Why would they get the blu-ray if they hated the DVD? (Which was out for a good long while before the blu-ray...)

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 2:37:00 AM

I bought the DVD when it came out and the Blue Ray. I still watch Advent Children sometimes. Story sucks but its nice eye candy.

EDIT: There are still FFVII fans out there. You only need to look at the download numbers on PSN. It's been in the Top Downloads since it's release. I've played all the games in the Compilation except the cell phone one. People are still hungry for FFVII.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:08:23 PM
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What a lame rant, Ben? I really thought you were above that. I'll hate to disagree here. Ever since the merger, Square & Enix, this company hasn't been the same. And was the share. . . 70% Enix to 30% Square. We as loyal fans kept at them. But the ones controlling the helm are not the ones whom were in control when it was all so good back, pre-Enix days. Ben, look at your FF13 game disc on PS3. (PS, if you were a SquareSoft fan, you would know SquareSoft PSone era games were printed with a white cover on the disc.) FF13 has a similar reminiscing feeling to it. Right when you open that box. . . so old school. That is as close we will ever get to SquareSoft.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:19:17 PM

Wait, what? How is this article related to ownership percentages?

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Dancemachine55
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:25:18 PM

This article is about S-E announcing that they are abandoning their once loyal fans to tackle the twitch and casual gaming crowd.

It's about how times have changed. How Square is the epitomy of disappointment lately.

This has nothing to do with ownership percentages. This is about the fans of a once great developer being left out in the cold, and how S-E doesn't care about our views.

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Underdog15
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:50:33 PM

I rather appreciated the rant.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:46:17 AM

Pretty sure I don't even get your post. Are you making a point...?

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:32:53 PM
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Square doesn't exist! These are Enix decisions. Let fanboy-ism die for a second and realise this company hasn't been the same for a long time now. SquareSoft died with Spirits Within & FF10!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:47:36 PM

Trust me, we have all noticed they haven't been the same, but you can't just separate square and enix that way, they are a single entity now. As such it is well within their power not to make stupid decisions. There was always the option to listen to the fans, and plenty of people liked FFXII.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:53:25 PM

I disagree. I liked FFXII and DragonQuest VIII. Quite a bit. Square wasn't quite dead after Spirits Within. They still made a few good games. Now is a different story.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:49:11 PM
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@Dancemachine55 I have no idea how to reply, thought it was that "/!\" under your name but it isn't. My apologies.

And for my sake of opinion, I think Enix has catered & changed it's fan base when it is 4 years in the PS3 & only FF13 has been met by them. I'm excluding Batman Arkham Asylum. They bought it AFTER it was release. Games like Last Remnant, Star Ocean (finally ported two years later!) Infinite Undiscovery, etc. Even Nier was meant to be 360 ONLY! We, the real fans, the one that made them money. . . it's done! They don't care about us.

PS, the new SquareSoft is Mistwalker. aka Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, etc

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Underdog15
Monday, June 07, 2010 @ 11:52:50 PM

You can't reply directly to him because it's a reply to your original post. In order to have your response appear below his, you'd have to click reply on the original post his falls under.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:49:40 AM

Public Service announcement: The caution symbol is to report Spam. :)

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CHAOS THEORY X
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:12:02 AM
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Someone, go to E3 with a big ass sign and have it read "You Are Losing Your Fans" because evidently they have NO idea they are pissing us off

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 8:59:39 AM

I would love for someone to do that. Just stand there for hours.

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CharlesD
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:22:50 AM
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Seems like a poor decision on their part

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ZettaiSeigi
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:34:50 AM
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I know I've said this before, but I'll say it again. I think it's high time that Sony invests on their own RPG studio, if not acquire one of the good ones and invest seriously on it. Level-5, anyone? Atlus? It's a long shot, but one can hope!

I am sure that they would be more that capable of toppling Square-Enix by the rate things are going. A lot, if not all, of Sony's first-party games got critical and commercial success. I could easily see them doing the same thing with an RPG.

Yes, Sony got a lot of love from Square during the PS1/PS2 era, but it's clear as day that it is not the case anymore. S-E has forgotten about their loyal fanbase and doesn't care anymore about what they want and what they have to say.

So Sony, it's time that you get your hands "dirty". You don't need S-E anymore. You are fully capable to create an RPG that will be as good, if not better, than Final Fantasy. If and when you get to do that, you would have the last laugh. And we would be there with you laughing at S-E until they disappear into oblivion.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:50:43 AM
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Would I be remiss in saying this is like a big fat oil-leaking disaster to RPG gaming?

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:09:10 AM

I'm the oily sea otter.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 6:45:32 AM

We gamers are the damaged sea life struggling to find clear good RPG water in a sea of oily action shooters.

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goodgamer
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:13:16 AM
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square enix is a different company from squaresoft
also japan studio is the new rpgmasters

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AlfaChaos
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:24:44 AM
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Honestly, I just find that sad and, not just disappointing, disheartening... That's like your favorite band going "we don't care what fans we have now. You all can rot somewhere. We want new ones!"

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 9:00:50 AM

Like Metallica going Broadway.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 2:16:40 AM
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It's a crying shame that I feel I missed the golden age of gaming. You all speak so fondly of the PS1/2 generation games such as Final Fantasy 7-10, Parasite Eve, MGS1 (I've got the others), Resident Evil 1-3, that I truly feel as though today's games are only a figment of their former selves, despite the massive advances in technology.
As for Square-Enix, well, what can be done? No amount of begging and pleading will make them see sense, only the brilliant flash of money can do that, but we all know that Sony (God Bless) will not sink as low as that. Alas, Square-Enix, we knew ye well, back in the days that were.
Oi, and what's this Nerkas video that was flashing outside the Staples Centre?
Peace.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 2:34:45 AM

Don't forget FFXII and DQVIII. :)

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 5:16:14 AM

Well, yes Jawknee, but it was a generalisation. Obviously I missed a metric ton of games, but I don't want everyone chiming in with their favourites. Thanks for the reply anyway.
Peace.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 6:58:24 AM

Lawless, I feel for ya.

I was around 10 when all these games started appearing on PS1. I got MGS1 and FF VII from my family, and those 2 alone remain to this day in my top 5 all time favourites. Story-telling in games was at it's peak with those games. They pushed the boundary of video game story-telling, beyond staged platformers like Mario where you hav to save a Princess.

We speak so fondly of these games because they remind us of a time when we were young, had more free time to appreciate every detail within each game. It was a time where games were admired for their beauty and creativity, not their ability to host 56 players online with more guns than the Vatican can hold.

These games made companies like Squaresoft and Konami great. These games pushed the bar. The cutscenes in FF VII alone were enough to make me run to my parents to show it off to them in 1997. It was all cutting edge.

To see great companies abandon their great roots and hardcore fans in order to make a quick cash-in on the COD audience is beyond me. It makes me weep for the future of this industry, as I have already stated before.

All those old games you mentioned are held dearly for what they achieved artistically and narratively at the time.

Personally, Bioware is the only company I have strong faith in for story-telling and RPG mechanics. Still haven't played White Knight Chronicles, and Demon's Souls isn't coming out in Australia for another 2 weeks.

Do yourself a favour Lawless. Download and play all these games on the PSN. Vagrant Story, FF's VII-IX, Metal Gear Solid, Oddworld: Abe's Odyssey (not an RPG, but still a great game), and keep an eye out for Parasite Eve.

As for current games, get your hands on White Knight Chronicles, Demon's Souls and Lost Odyssey on 360. These will give you a hint of what we older gamers experienced back in the day.

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Douchebaguette
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 9:40:30 AM

Lawless, I wouldn't envy that much simply because the "Golden Age" people claim is purely and simply their childhood nostalgia. The same s**t will happen when the 7-10 year olds of today grow up.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 10:30:30 AM

It's more than nostalgia, I'm afraid. It's more about standards of quality. Sure, from a technological point of view, things have obviously progressed, however, while the graphics of these classics still wow'd us at the time, the graphics and flash weren't the most important aspect of these experiences for us. I think what people are lamenting is the fact that SE doesn't have that commitment to perfection and depth they used to have, and that they are moving away from what got them their fan base in the first place.

No one is denying that some of their games are still well done, for the most part. Most people will admit that despite FFXIII, for a common example, being a let-down in terms of moving away from what FF's are known for, it was still a very well done development. However, that 'X' factor that made them great seems to have disappeared. The further complaint is their lack of concern for customer satisfaction. They aren't expanding their business... they're rebuilding it.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:31:01 PM

@ dancemachine
I fully intend to pick up Demon's Souls when it is released, and White Knight Chronicles some time in the future (maybe when the second is released so I can have them both in one hit).

As for those PSN releases you listed, I'd love to get them, but I simply can't as I'm running on a 3G internet connection you see. As soon as I get a real one I'll pick them up though.

@Douchebaguette
I know that what you say is probably true, but I don't look back on my experiences with the old Atari with nostalgia, or fondness. I look back and think, 'Wow, they were actually really bad.' And besides, as much as I like most of the games that I've played, I can't say that I've seen anything to grab me and properly take a hold of me yet. I know that your post was that it was nostalgia for nostalgia's sake, but I don't think that's true.

@Underdog
Yeah, but from what I understand, it isn't just Square-Enix. It seems to me that most all publishers are trying to expand their business by attempting to take on new consumers at the accidental expense of their old. It just seems downright foolish.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:33:47 PM

@Douchebaguette,

Wrong

A better comparison is the rock/metal music genre.

I wasn't around for Metallica in the 80s, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Dio, etc. in the 70s, yet I still agree with A LOT of people that-that was the golden era of rock/metal.

Late 1980s through 2000 was v-games golden era. Plain and simple.

Level design
story telling
character design

So much variety you couldn't even begin to "OMG I'm tired of FPSs." It had platformers, fighting games, SHMUPS, FPSs, racing, sports, rpgs, action adventure, it had everything you can think of.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 3:06:37 PM

While nostalgia admittedly plays a role (and always will), there remains a distinct difference in quality and style from Square-Enix/Squaresoft. The review scores alone tell the story; Square rarely put out anything that bombed while Square-Enix has trouble releasing anything worthy of a 9+ these days.

It's this difference that pains the loyal fanbase most. The shift in style and intended demographic is a close second, but yes, the latter may be more due to nostalgia.

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Douchebaguette
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 5:23:08 PM


@ Scarecrow

Since when something better to you will ever be better to the eyes of a child playing newer games today? Never.

You have to re-read what I said. I didn't say anything about that time being better or not than this time [btw, I too prefer that time over this time. There will never be games that has struck aura and mesmerized me such as FFVI, FFVII, Chrono Trigger, MGS]. All I said was, that people growing up NOW will end up saying the same s**t we do now to them, so Lawless shouldn't really beat himself up for it. Why? Because kids today will never get to witness what you claim as the "Golden Age" and we'll never magically erase our memories and magically live to see their side of the story. Infact there's more chance they'll believe they're in some sort of "Golden Lame." It's a bit obvious. It's like your grandad that keeps banging on about "Back in mah day, we didn't have tuh fight over the remote. We actually had tuh get up off our tuckus' then walk tuh the tv and actually change the channel manually. Now shut up and give me the remote you young whippershnappers D=<."

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Cut to the chase: there is no "Golden Ninja Warrior." It's what's golden to YOU. I can't believe I'm stating the obvious here. And if you're going to argue about quality in games then one can argue that back in those days you'd never find a game with conviction such as Uncharted 2 [God, the voice acting to the first 3 Resident Evil games were ATROCIOUS], RPGs with so much choice like Mass Effect 2, mass creativity found in games like LittBigPlanet, or ease of universal plug n' play for fairly addictive socialising online experiences such as COD4, KZ2, Halo 3 & Red Dead Redepmtion.

Who knows. See your FFVIII could be some kid's FFXIII. Your cousin's Modnation Racers could be your older brother's Mario Kart, all on the same level of appreciation anyway.

Perhaps if the days you mention were about the Golden Days for developers, I would concur.

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And for the off-topic: I know plenty of people who appreciate the foundation of metal, the influences from Thrash metal, but would rather listen more to the metal which bands generate today over the classics, or would rather see Lamb of God live over Iron Maiden. Wanna know why? Oooh, [other than exceptions such as me, where I've listened to 80's thrash and NWOBHM first before expanding to other and later genres of metal] it's a another mentioning of the obvious: because they've grown & adapted to metal today. They've never witnessed yesteryay, so why be a douchay and nay-say by telling a storay about the superioritay of the Golden-ay? Exactlay.


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Douchebaguette
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 5:34:58 PM

@ Ben - True, dat. Touché.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 11:50:27 PM

Woh wait, what? KZ2, COD, RDR... games for todays 12 year olds to consider golden? They shouldn't be playing those for another 5 years! lol

I'm afraid I agree with Scarecrow and Ben, though. While there is a nostalgia side to our appreciation, the case in point, SE, doesn't score the same they used to. There is an obvious decline, not just to fans, but all critics. Keep in mind, most critics don't even do a comparison to begin with. However, their overall scores are a full point lower, on average, if not more, than they used to score back in the day.

Instead of the obvious Final Fantasy series, look at Dragon Quest VIII. SE stuck to VERY traditional means, and they had huge success. Whenever they get to their roots, they do well. Dragon Quest VIII averaged a score of 9.2/10 amongst 55 professional online critics. This is a fairly recent (4-5 years late PS2 gen) proof-in-point about the traditional JRPG working for SE. When has SE ever created a game fans want and failed, is my question. Perhaps that's a better question than "Why are they moving forward?". Why not ask, "When has their traditional-what-fans-want attitude NOT paid off?" Movies, like AC and Spirits Within, do not count, as they aren't really what fans want... not REALLY.

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___________
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 2:38:09 AM
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ive been saying that for months.
there trying to appeal to more people thus increase their customer base but in doing so there loosing fans.
what the millions of people who live and breathe FF is not good enough for ya?
its not like there barley scraping through i mean for fu*ks sake there swimming in money, so much so they just bought out eidos there not exactly a cheap small company!!!
arent those 2 Ferraris 2 bentleys and 2 RR and 5M dollar mansion enough for ya MR wadda?
selfish ^%$# #$%^$# %$#@#% ^^&%$#@#@#$!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is what is wrong with the industry today and why todays games will never be as good as yesterdays.
back in the day developers and publishers everyone involved in a game had a massive passion for the game thats why they were doing it, not to make cash.
that passion made them care about what they release and thus made it a fantastic game.

nowdays they could not care less whether their game is good or sh*t as long as it brings in the $ thats all they care about!
its looking like developers like naughty dog are a dying breed, give us a few years and we will have nothing left but shovelware ala activision.

im going to ring activision tomorrow and give them a ear full and hopefully get it through their thick heads.
i bought crash racing 2 on my iphone and its so freaking laggy i can not play it!
im ringing them tomorrow, giving them a piece of my mind and demanding my money back.
until these selfish a$$holes get a swift kick up the backside there not going to stop and before you know it we will be drowning in activisions.

i can honestly see this gen being my last gen of gaming, after this were going to have nothing but shovleware developers releasing sh*t and charging us a arm and a leg for it.
why make a good game and bust your a$$ when you can do a third of the work and make just as much money?

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kraygen
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 3:39:26 AM
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Off topic but definitely need to know.

RPG fans who haven't played white knight, it is the video game deal of the day on amazon today, for only $36.99.

I'd jump all over that deal.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 3:44:09 AM
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I really enjoyed FF13 however it was the first FF game that after i beat it, i looked forward to trading it in for maximum value in a trade in deal at gamestop.

NEVER have i sold a FF game after beating it. Not even FFX-2 which still sits in my collection. Thats saying a lot. At this point if/when they announce FF VS 13 being multiconsole i dont think many will care

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 7:12:52 AM
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For those comparing this to Squaresoft jumping ship from Nintendo to Sony:

THIS IS NOTHING LIKE THAT!!!!

Sony has the most powerful console on the market with the largest mass media storage disc available, the Blu-ray. If S-E cared about their creative vision, they'd keep their game Sony exclusive.

Fair enough if FF XIII went multiplat, 360 was still kicking butt in 2008 when the announcement was made. But there is NO EXCUSE for FF Vs XIII to go multiplat if S-E want to see the greatest FF RPG made, visually, narratively and spacially.

If Squaresoft were still around, we wouldn't be in this mess. FF XIII would be PS3 exclusive. Vs XIII and XIV would be exclusive to PS3. These games would be aiming for greatness in the game collectors shelves, not greatness in selling like hotcakes and becoming unwanted beer coasters that are worth $3 in the bargain bin.

S-E no longer care about quality, and that is a shame. Self-destructive is the best word to describe their direction.

FIRE WADDA!!!! What are the board members waiting for!??!?! Wasn't that Twitter post about a FF VII remake enough of a wake up call to them? Do they even know we old fans still exist in the hopes of a PS3 exclusive Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts or Parasite Eve sequel/remake?

Who do S-E listen to? I will join that company and THEN tell S-E what to do to save themselves and their image. RETAIN YOUR RPG GREATNESS!!! LISTEN TO YOUR FANS!!!

As ____________ said, it's not like S-E doesn't have a big fanbase, cos theirs is huge, I'm talking millions, in regards to fans of Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest.

Sorry, ranting too much.

Basically, we fans need to find the local S-E developer studio and stage a protest. Spread the word from US to Japan. S-E must be held accountable for their actions. We fans are a passionate bunch, and they need to know that!!!!

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 8:33:15 AM

Something tells me SE doesn't care about Blu-Ray and they will go ahead and release it multiplatform anyway.

Which i think is stupid, if making it for another platform means making it look even worse with multiple discs why bother doing it when you can put ALL of it on one single Blu-Ray, doesn't make any sense what so ever.

It's like If you had the money to buy a Lamborghini or a Honda what would you buy?

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 9:09:48 AM

Asking the wrong guy. I'd buy the Honda and use the left over money that would have been spent on the Lamborghini on either my gaming room, extra mortgage payments, or an RRSP. But I'm cheap like that.

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Dustinwp
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 9:09:20 AM
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S-E president Yoichi Wada is a lame duck! I wish the S-E stock holders would realize this and can his ass. The only ideas Mr.Wada has left in his senile little brain is to absorb smaller developers for new ideas.

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Douchebaguette
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 9:43:21 AM
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Ah, only a few years worth of terrible decisions and now look how much the image of Square has changed.

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Evil tele
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:12:13 PM
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i think the overall conclusion we can draw from this... is we need to look elsewhere for our 'good' rpg fix...

as for FF7 remake.... i honestly think that enix is a little afraid to make this. considering how big this game would be, how much of a challenge it would be to basically recreate the game world of FF7, without damaging the 'essence' of the original. They were right when they said it would 'take years to make' (but they've been talking about how long it would take for a few years already - it could've been partially done by now)

best thing they could do right now... (wont happen though) - is to drop all the fluff and BS that they're doing.. assign ALL of their divisions to work on two games.... FF7 remake, and kingdom hearts 3. - both exclusive to the ps3

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 12:25:56 PM
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phew, read all the comments in one go, what a read can that be, especially when it's on a touchy subject like this.
Even though S-E is ruining itself and leaving us(the fans) in their wastebins, I still have hope left for two of their games, even though that son of a b*tch wada had a thought about making Versus XIII(one of the two games) multiplatform, I still have hope, even though they are trying to change their loyal old fan base for the new twitching youth which doesn't care about anything they make, only fps's and space marines shooting aliens, I still have hope.
For there is still a solid team at work at that company and I think you all know which one I'm talking about, that's right, Nomura's team(that sounds kinda bad-ass), I hope Versus XIII and Kingdom Hearts 3 will become Playstation exclusive mammoth titles, those might be the last of their kind(a genius Square game).
If you go out(leave your loyal fan base), go out with one hell of a bang!

plz give us our Playstation exclusive games, we deserve them for making you the company you are today.

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Evil tele
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:16:14 PM
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The funny thing about FF7 is.... they could make it.. and charge double the price, maybe even triple, and justify it by simply saying... "it's worth it"

retail it at $180 a unit... it'll still "sell like hotcakes"

dont they see the potential?

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:37:36 PM

I wouldn't buy it at regular price, much less at double or triple the price

btw I ain't the only one

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Evil tele
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 1:49:13 PM

well, at this point in time... i def see what u mean.
There was a time when i heard a new a new FF game was coming out.. instant buy..

after 12 & 13 let me down... not anymore :(

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 @ 2:40:16 PM

I would buy regular price. Probably at 70 or 80. There was a time I would DEFINITELY buy it for 180... like when the ps3 demo came out. Now, I would just be hesitant about SE being in charge.

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Rinoa
Wednesday, June 09, 2010 @ 4:08:03 AM
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i dont mean to defend SE cause that would be ridiculous.

i just think that writing an article like this, based on an opinion (that we all feel the same, we all feel abandoned by SE) while the title sounds like it's a fact, and something they stated instead of making it clear that it's something you just assumed, like we all did.

i dont know about you, but it really brings my spirits down.

they didnt say they abandoned their fans, maybe they can still surprise us.

maybe they just need to get rid of wada and maybe they just need to see that their games wont sell only on house name anymore... that will eventually happen.

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Caanimal
Thursday, June 10, 2010 @ 3:42:27 PM
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I think most will agree w/ me that Square has been going down the drain ever since they picked up Enix, this is just another mushroom stamp to the foreheads of all of SquareSoft's established fan base.

If SE honestly thinks they are going be able to just drop their established fan base and just pick up a new one they are going to be sorely mistaken. I don't see this ending nicely for Square-Enix at all...

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ZenChichiri
Thursday, June 10, 2010 @ 11:50:44 PM
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I think the problem with Square is that they are assuming they are still appeasing old time fans in the form of remakes/spinoffs that appear on handhelds. The 4 Warriors of Light (or whatever) is their way of an attempt to reach out to us. The problem with that is we want the series to evolve with its core gameplay with a feature project, such as the next numbered Final Fantasy, while retaining the aspects that made the games good in the past.

I know games are more expensive and time consuming, so there is more of a risk taken with making the game, but if you go with what is safe all the time then you will lose fans. Greater risk = greater reward and that is why Square thrived in the PS1 era. Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Brave Fencer Musashi, and Threads of Fate were all risky as they were new IPs, but that risk taking was selling copies. Of course they always had their Final Fantasy crutch, but now the company is leaning on it a little too much in an attempt to keep their loyal fans with cheap spinoffs.

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ThEuNdYiNg1
Friday, June 11, 2010 @ 5:14:00 PM
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this makes me want to cry, but i still got hope, we'll see what the the 4 heroes of light have in store for us first

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Lightofjudgment
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 4:54:47 AM
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I cannot refrain from saying this any longer. After about a year and a half (or more) of searching the internet for a page like this, I have finally found people whose voices are in unison (feels so) with mine. I began with Final Fantasy VII, it was fantastic, I still remember tearing when Aerith had left. I played 9 subsequently, and found that it was just as amazing. The nostalgia that these two games can bring you are genuine and truly heart-moving. It was customary to shed tears whenever I relate to some of the very memorable events that Square Soft had left in my heart. Final Fantasy 6 (It had pixel-like graphics and was still phenomenal, imagine that) and Final Fantasy 8 were just as insane as 7 and 9. When I found out that Square Enix had taken over, my perception towards Final Fantasy was dramatically transformed overnight.

The atmosphere in Square Soft games, it does not matter what game, is splendid. Every dialogue, every sound that comes resonating from the speakers of your television hits you with such awe and force that you can tear just by thinking about it. Aerith's (very, very shocking and heartbreaking) death, The Planet and its efforts to rid itself of Meteor's threat through its Lifestream, Laguna's separation with Julia, Squall's acknowledgment of his love for Rinoa, Zidane's overcome depression, Garnet's (or better still, Dagger, since it played such major roles in her life) everlasting affection for Zidane...

Square Enix had wrecked the name of Final Fantasy. And as if that word wasn't powerful enough I would make it 10 times as strong just to show everyone the deepest extent of my disappointment. Final Fantasy VII culminated with a resolution so epic that it was perfectly easy to tell that Crisis Core and other films/games under the Compilation have ruined it. Square Enix is focused wholly on graphics, gameplay and intensity, and have neglected the sentimental elements which make up the quintessence of Final Fantasy, robbing it of whatever pride and uniqueness it has. Final Fantasy is nearly no longer Final Fantasy; it truly ignites the fury of people like me who have grown up with Final Fantasy and have loved it so much.

The ignorance of Square Enix is awe-inspiring. They must have thought for once that maybe they should change their genre of games to suit the newer generations, all due to Gran Turismo and Gran Turismo 2's incredibly stupid and meaningless reign in the market. The magnificent of Final Fantasy does not lie only in rushes of adrenaline, and if that still cannot permeate that thick skull of theirs, then I shall continue to abhor them, and I will do so with all my heart.

If they had thought of casting off their old fans like feathers, the fans who were so tied to the original Final Fantasy, then I stand here to prove their insolence and impudence wrong, for they have no idea what Final Fantasy has brought to my childhood.

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