E3 2010: A Few Analyst Thoughts

Tomorrow will be big for us - Sony's press conference looms large - but in the meantime, the show rolls onward.

EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich has offered up a few comments in reaction to what has been on display thus far, and that ranges from the new technology headed our way to all the most visible games. In regards to the show itself, Divnich says that "E3 2010 will be a critical inflection point for the video game industry, and a major catalyst for the sector's continued success and growth." Here's some more that gives you a bite-size impression of E3's presentations:

On PlayStation Move: "Sony’s PlayStation Move is a true evolution in motion based gaming by finally allowing developers to create high-definition motion based games that target both the casual and core gaming audience."

"Through combining both video and motion based control, Sony’s PlayStation Move is able to immerse both the core and mainstream gamer into true high-definition motion, highly interactive gaming experiences."

On 3D Gaming: "With the slow adoption rate for 3D televisions, EEDAR does not expect 3D gaming to be a significant driver of revenue and health for the industry over the short-term. However, as consumers naturally replace their televisions and adopt 3D television, 3D gaming will play an ever increasing role in driving revenue for the sector. Currently, EEDAR does not expect 3D supported video games to be a significant driver of industry revenue until 2013."

On Medal of Honor: "EEDAR believes the break in the Medal of Honor series was much needed, and given the success of Battlefield Bad Company 2, we have no doubts that Medal of Honor will resurge as a hit franchise."

On Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood: "Many have raised concerns about the annualization of the Assassin’s Creed series; however, given its strong user replay ability, high accomplishment rates of Achievements/Trophies, and general critical acclaim, EEDAR believes UbiSoft can successfully release yearly iterations of Assassin’s Creed without hindrance to its sales potential through 2012. However, beyond 2012, we could begin to see brand and feature fatigue, which is common among franchises released annually."

On Call of Duty: Black Ops: "There is no doubt that the Infinity Ward saga will overhang the release of Call of Duty: Black Ops, but EEDAR does not expect the commercial success of this year’s Call of Duty franchise title to be hindered by the events that occurred."

And of course, for full articles based on Sony's conference tomorrow, you know where to go. We'll be all over that from the minute it starts and if you can find another source that gives you faster write-ups on all the announcements...well, don't bother looking 'cuz you won't find one.

6/14/2010 5:03:36 PM Ben Dutka

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FullmetalX10
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:23:40 PM
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I'll be here! And maybe some place with live video stuff.
I reckon' there will be lots of attention on the Move, I just hope it won't overshadow the actual hardcore games Sony's planning to show, I do hope they'll announce some more core games for Move though, just 1 isn't enough to pull people like me over.
Currently I'd love to try 3d gaming, at a store or something, since I don't have the cash for the stuff, as said before...
As for the rest, we'll see how it all turns out.
Psyched for Sony's press conference!!!

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shadowpal2
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:01:35 PM

HEY FULLMETAL - remember my whole depressing moment yesterday of saying that Square Enix will definitely come out today and say that Versus XIII was going to go multiplatform. IT CERTAINLY DID NOT. Still exclusive to the Playstation 3 WORLDWIDE baby!

Sony won E3 already...just like that - JUST LIKE THAT. Microsoft had nothing...but the metal gear solid rising footage - was something...it was pretty sick IMO, but it seems to lack stealth. (sigh!) no more old Metal Gear.

Now remember that new Kingdom Hearts title? Still not announced - which could mean...PS3?!? Oh gosh...I'm just getting too hopeful. hahaha - it's probably for DS...at best Wii. =/

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rogers71
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:05:17 PM

Yeah Shadowpal,

They should have called the new Metal Gear.

METAL GEAR: TWITCH GAMER RISING

It seems like anytime a developer puts a proven playstation platform on the 360, it automatically becomes all action and is nothing like the formula that made it great. Xbox can have that one. Didn't look good at all.

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shadowpal2
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:31:14 PM

Can't argue with you there Roger71 - they should subtitle it "TWITCH NONSENSE ACTION."

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 2:37:21 AM

Yeah, I was really glad that didn't happen too.
Now all I can hope is that you're wrong with the Kingdom Hearts title and that they at least make it PSP, 358/2 days' graphics kind of annoy me -_-
But yeah, we'll see more by the end of this day.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:23:54 PM
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Can't wait. Tomorrow can't come soon enough. I NEED INFO!!!

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:30:15 PM

Oh, and as I mentioned in a previous article, that Sony better have something good in store for the masses because M$ will have something up their sleeve to get the market buzzing about them again, and it will probably be the 360 slim.

Well, I was right, the Slim is announced, 250G hard drive, and supposedly whisper quite, and built in WiFi for ... 299.99 and it hits stores IMMEDIATELY.

Ball is in your court Sony...

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:47:13 PM

Sony already has that covered. Slim model 45nm Cell and RSX, whisper quiet, BluRaty, WiFi, fully HD in stores....about a year ago.

The ball remains in Microsoft's court, they get a delay of game penalty for taking a year to catch up despite having a year's head start.

:D

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:13:42 PM

Highlander, consumers are not as smart as you, clearly.

I still maintain the ball is still in Sony's court, even though they have the better machine, BluRay, wireless controllers that don't require batteries, cell processor, etc.

The public will view it as M$ has a 250G machine for $299.99 and Sony's 250G is $399.99. They will not dig as deep as you have. In their eyes, Sony is charging $100.00 more for the same thing.

Sony understands that, and will come up with something to negate M$'s move. Or one can hope. I have heard of a 500G coming, but if that is true, I suspect the 120G harddrive model will go away, and the 250G will come down to $299.99 to compete with the new 360 $299.99 model.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:16:23 PM

Nope not anymore because tomorrow Sony will announce their new bundles with move which include updated models.

The 2 new slim models (250GB and 500GB!!!!) that have surfaced are being released later this year and will be bundled with the move. They both will contain the 802.11n wireless standard so thats great for connection speed :D

Granted its considered to be a rumor since Sony hasn't announced it yet but I'm willing to bet any amount of money on it... so name your price :P

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:22:36 PM

Myworst, the 250gb model is $349.99. Like you said, thats likely to drop with Sony offering and even bigger HDD for the $349.99.

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HeXeN
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:26:32 PM

@Highlander

Although MS showed nothing new or impressive(or remotely interesting)you have to admit that they now have the prettier looking console if that means anything to anyone.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:29:05 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder HeXeN. The new console looks flashy yes, but it's hardly better looking. The black Wii still looks cooler. :)

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:29:20 PM

Jawk, yeah, thanks for catching that. That was a huge gaff on my part on the 250G being $399.99. Point remains the same, Sony will likely bring that cost down to $299.99 to match the 360 model.

These are fast moving, interesting times my friend.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:31:37 PM

Hexen, M$ was smart, they went with the shiny piano finish. I think it looks slick. I wish the PS3 Slim kept that feature instead of the matte finish.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:35:13 PM

Myworst, i liked the shiny finish more too, but now not so much. My refurb came back all nice and shiny and after only a few short months and minimal use it has scratches and blemishes galore! I like the matte finish now. Easy to keep clean.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:41:53 PM

Man Jawk, what is going on at your place you are getting scratches on your machine? You don't even have kids to worry about yet!

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:45:40 PM

I have no idea, it was squeaky clean a few months ago. Now...not so much.

EDIT: Looks like some rawhide. Must be my dogs!

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:04:27 PM

@Hexen

That new 360 case looks like a cheap HTPC case.

:P

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HeXeN
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:30:24 PM

Well it does look nicer than before,that we can all agree on.Anyway,Myworst is right about the ball being on Sony's court.They need to make the PS3 look more appealing to the ignorant costumers out there.I fully except Sony to answer back (and blow away)Microsoft's briefing.

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B-RadGfromOV
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 5:03:14 PM

It looks butt ugly is what it looks like.

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Lex Luthor
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:30:43 PM
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Really off-topic:

Will you cover the "new and improved" former-Natal-now-renamed-M$-Kinetic??

Sounds somewhat interesting but I doubt it...

I know, I know, it has nothing to do with this site, but I still wanted to know if Move has competition or M$ is still blowing smoke up our asses as usual...

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:33:38 PM

I would HOPE that this site covers it. Might not be PS3, but it is a huge topic, and one that could shape the direction Sony goes in the future, how soon a PS4 is pushed on us to try to get marketshare back from M$. Things are getting crazy out there, and I hope PSX covers it from start to finish, the good and the bad.

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:48:17 PM

You mean that EyeToy clone with voice input a la SingStar? Sure, I guess they'll cover it in the context of it being the competition for Move.

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B-RadGfromOV
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:00:32 PM

I've seen it in action. It really is nothing special. Basically nothing but slightly more sophisticated wii stuff. Boring, not a game changer. I want it to fail... Just because it seems dumb and pointless to me.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:13:57 PM

Yea when you really get down to the nuts and bolts, MS just repackaged the Eyetoy with a couple of additional features.

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OPHIDIAN
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:25:08 PM

I had high hopes for kinetic, for xbox's sake, but even that appears to be an epic fail.

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kevinater321
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:25:09 PM

btw its kinect, not kinetic.

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OPHIDIAN
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 8:11:42 AM

I'll let M$ have that one. :P

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:35:59 PM
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I'll be on top of this with G4 on nearby.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:47:05 PM
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Don't care 'bout 3D and Move, both bad moves by Sony, imo

Give me Heavenly Sword 2 and Demon's Souls 2 and I'll be happy

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:49:04 PM

If you have seen the way that MS is betting the farm on Kinect with it's cartoon avatars, you'll have some new found respect for the slightly more core approach that Sony will take.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:06:17 PM

Its not a bad move because you don't like it Crow. Sony is giving consumers more options and more reasons to buy their product while still giving you and i and many others like us what we want.

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Clamedeus
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:54:48 PM
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MS's press conference was pretty weak if you ask, can't wait to see what Sony has.

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Lex Luthor
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:56:39 PM

Really?

Did they advertise Kinetic as the second coming of Christ??

You wouldn´t believe how third-world countries like mine can buy crap like that...

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 5:58:38 PM

@McClane,

Yes, it's official, Kinect is indeed the second coming of Xbox...

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Clamedeus
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:01:00 PM

Yep, all it was about is Kinetic and some of the games, Gears of War 3, Fable 3, and some other games. And a new system i think it was a 250GB one at 300 or 100 bucks

(can't remember correct me if I'm wrong on the price.)

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B-RadGfromOV
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:03:03 PM

I agree Clamedeus. I wonder if anyone could find much to talk about afterwards. Not a very exciting presentation. It was also very over-acted and fake.

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Clamedeus
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:06:28 PM

B-RadGfromOV Indeed it was.

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:15:20 PM

There were 6 exclusive games other than the Kinect shovel-ware. Of those, 2 were obvious sequels, one was already known about and a fourth has no name or date. The new slim 360 costs $299, but doesn't have BluRay.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:18:13 PM

Apparently Blue Ray STILL doesn't matter, so i've read.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:23:37 PM

I was disappointed with Nata... err Kinect, though I guess I didn't expect much from it, though I was hopeful.

Who knows though maybe it is more polished than it seems and maybe it will get good 3rd party support to offer something to hardcore gamers and give me a little extra incentive to pick up a 360.

Kinda sucks how they again paid for timed exclusive content for Black Ops. Granted I don't think I need anymore COD games but it stinks for people who want to buy the game.

However I will hand it to M$, that was the smartest timed exclusive they could have gotten. Assuming the whole Infinity Ward fiasco doesn't interfere at all, Black Ops will probably somewhere near as successful as MW2 causing those who own both the 360 and PS3 but still decide to shell out 50 for Live/year to probably be more inclined to pick up the 360 version.

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:28:37 PM

@laxpro

MS paying for timed exclusivity of CoD map packs is funny to me, it tells you right away who their core game audience is. And yet they are trying to push Kinect to these same gamers.

ROTFLMAO!

Sony had better be a little more intelligent than this.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:31:51 PM

I fail to see how making these kinds of deals benefits Activision. I mean, by the time the PS3 gets the DLC well be playing better and newer games.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:38:05 PM

@Highlander
Indeed its funny in an awkwardly sad way, but yes, it paints a vivid image of the typical 360 owner, which is kind of annoying to picture.

Though as far as Kinect being pushed to the same gamers that are likely to gloat over their timed exclusive, I thought M$ was planning on using Kinect to attract the family audience.

It definitely seems that way with the software they have coming out for the device which is pathetic.. mostly wii clones.

Also on that note... apparently the older models won't have the port to connect to kinect... lol fail!

Last edited by laxpro2001 on 6/14/2010 6:40:31 PM

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:45:11 PM

Oh, I know what you mean Laxpro, what I was getting at is that trying to sell Natal as an add-on to existing 360 consumers is a joke because they are most typically hardcore action junkies. I suspect families will end up going for new bundles, but then it'll be a more honest comparison with Wii and PS Move.

The old 360s can connect to the Kinect camera, but they don't have sufficient power spare to run it, and you need a separate power outlet to power it.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:51:26 PM

Ahh I get ya Highlander. Also I definitely agree with the Wii/Move comment.

Thanks for the clarification there with the older consoles support.

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Bugzbunny109
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:05:56 PM

TheHighlander
MS is paying a plethora of money to Activision because they want to show that they can appeal to both hardcore and casual gamers.

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daus26
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:35:49 PM

Did anyone saw the part where they showed the FM3 kinect support? I get the invisible steering wheel thing (which is something I'll never do), but how does gas and brake work?

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Orvisman
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 9:26:21 AM

Yeah, well, if you followed the live blogs of M$ft's presser yesterday on GameSpot or IGN and read the reader comments you'd know that:

"Dood, Microsoft just destroyed $ony and the PS3!!!!!!!!!!"

LOL.

Anyway, I'll pick up Natal; but I'm more excited for the Move.

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Kangasfwa
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:09:49 PM
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Speaking of 3D, the Crytek boss said that the xbox version of Crysis 2 will have 3D. How? Will people need the new xbox? I wouldn't be all that surprised knowing MS.

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:15:46 PM

I bet they do it using color separation and the old style 3D glasses.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:16:47 PM

lol 1950's tech on the Xbox.

Comedy Gold.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:28:02 PM

I'm thinking the 360 version will look like garbage.

I'm a little skeptical about it being on the PS3, more specifically the frame rate, since it will render in 3D. Hope they can pull it off!

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:30:47 PM

Well Crytek said they were using the Cell. Most third party developers don't so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:08:30 PM

Didn't realize that, I'm with you there Jawk

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:24:50 PM
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To be honest my most anticipated game to be shown at E3 is the new Zelda.

The new MOH looks good and I'm sure Sony's event will blow both MS's lack luster show and Nintendo's show to be out of the water but I'm Zelda deprived so my anticipation lies mostly with them. Especially since it seems Sony's has already announced all their new games.

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MyWorstNightmar
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:39:50 PM

Has Zelda been confirmed to be showcased this year at E3? Me hopes.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:47:23 PM

I thought they did. Nintendo said they wanted it out this year so i would assume something would be shown at E3.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:34:26 PM

Same here Jawknee, unless of course KH3 will be showcased, which knowing square probably isn't likely. GOD THEY SUCK

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:27:00 PM
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I just read up on the EA Keynote and unless you like shooters you need not apply. Other than a ridiculous number of shooters and straight up third person action we have Need For Speed - Hot Pursuit (By Criterion - so it will kick ass), their sports titles, EA Active, Sims 3 and...some more shootie games. Actually not a bad line up, just *very* heavy on shootie games.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:29:43 PM

MOH and Dead Space 2 are the only EA games that I'm interested in.

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Kangasfwa
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:33:30 PM

Dead Space 2 will be at Sony's conference tomorrow and it will finish the demo they started today... I wonder why...

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:35:37 PM

Move support maybe?

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LividFiction
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:03:40 PM

Hot Pursuit 3 will be fottuto fantastico. I spent hours upon hours playing Hot Pursuit 2, and I consider every Need for Speed title between that and Hot Pursuit 3 to have never existed, or to not really be part of the franchise.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 6:31:25 PM
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As far as 3D gaming goes, regardless of when it is released it will take a while to catch on. I figure the earlier the support the better to give it more time to grow.

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laxpro2001
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:01:15 PM
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It's tomorrow here in NZ... where is my Sony press conference!!!!

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mike rlz
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:18:20 PM
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On the new 360 model: I will be interested to see if the machine defies the error/huge scratch rings of old.

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:28:44 PM
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The one that I was anticipating the most is MGS Rising and god it was disappointing if Kojima Pro is gonna call it Lightning Bolt Action, the gameplay shown aren't so "Lightning", and if you ask me, the actions in Bayonetta and Ninja Gaiden are definitely faster.

Aside from the graphic and "Cut at your will" feature, nothing seems all that great and this coming from the studio that brought us MGS4.

Come on, I know the genius himself isn't directing this game BUT THOSE GUYS ARE WORKING UNDER THE GENIUS!!!!!

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:38:54 PM

meh, Rising looks like it will be fun enough but its still no MGS game.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:06:36 PM

Another thought, i wonder how long this game will actually be. Seems with the graphics as nice as they are, there cant be too much room left on the DVD especially with how sound crazy Kojima Pro is. They love quality sound. Have you ever played MGS4 on a sound system turned up loud? Its a master piece

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:05:49 PM

Never did, I just thought the audio was good but never noticed it's top-notch.

The 360 version will be inferior and multiple disc, that kind of graphic is exactly the same as the one in MGS4.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:34:25 PM
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I hope Sony's is more exciting than Microsoft's. So far, it's a pretty boring E3.

Did anyone else notice the lag in the EA demo of Kinect? Wow. I loved how during the "punching bag" demo you can see how slow it is. Then they said "notice how the player bobs and weaves, then the avatar bobs and weaves" and the character on screen was doing a mild twitching thing. lol. I have no interest in Kinect at all now.

I'm hoping Sony kicks it up and has some actual surprises. So far, I'm not impressed. Wasn't it a slow year the year before this gen was introduced? Hmmm...

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:39:38 PM

"I hope Sony's is more exciting than Microsoft's. So far, it's a pretty boring E3."

I'm sure it won't be hard to beat today's snooze fest.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:48:37 PM

THIS JUST IN-Ubisoft is hard at work on a game that teaches you to breathe.......zzzzzzz.....

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:04:29 PM

Just about everything Ubisoft is ZzzZzZzzz....

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NeoHumpty
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:18:31 PM

Guess it's all right there in their name. "You Be Soft".

I kinda dig AC, though.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:39:24 PM
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Nintendo and Sony kicking ass tomorrow 8)

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dkmrules
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:40:27 PM
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Cool looks like the 360 FINALLY has built in wi-fi now they have almost caught up with the PS3

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 7:49:11 PM

And it took them 5 years.
Took Sony 3 years only.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:00:48 PM

What do you mean it only took Sony 3 years? Wifi was built in at launch was it not? i bought my 60gb model less then a year after it's release and it has built in Wifi.

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Snaaaake
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:01:57 PM

Ah, sorry, I forgot to said that I was referring to the slim.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:03:34 PM

oh i see. :)

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NeoHumpty
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:09:56 PM

Wireless n is a nice touch and all, but wired is always better. I'd actually rather have a cheaper unit if offered the choice. Of course, I have no need for an Xbox anyway.

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kevinater321
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:27:49 PM

Wireless was not in the 20gb start model. Stupid me didn't know that and bought it. i didn't use wireless until a year or so after. Then i got hooked on resistance's online.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 8:46:34 PM

NeoHumpty, weird thing is I set up ad hoc party so I could play Peace Walker online and when I tested my connection on the PS3, wired was only 2.5 give or take Mbps while the wireless connection was 8 something. I don't know why, but my set up seems to run better wireless performance wise too.

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 11:20:00 PM

Wireless' biggest issue is latency. Wireless connections always have a higher latency because of protocol overheads.

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FxTales
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:29:03 PM
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They had a small segment related to E3 on the late news here in NZ and boy was it very 360 orientated with very brief mentions to the ps3 and wii. They definitely focused on natal and microsoft. So sad.

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 9:29:14 PM
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The original 60gigger's, all had wi-fi built right in.

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Highlander
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 10:12:12 PM

Yep, I have 2, and they are wonderful. Only thing is it's only 802.11b/g, but since most people don't have Internet bandwidth that exceeds the data rate of 802.11b it's not an issue.

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Shadow_Ninja
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 8:38:43 AM

yea you're right about the bandwidth issue. but 802.11n does expand the range of the you're wifi network therefore making it more reliable in my opinion.

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Highlander
Wednesday, June 16, 2010 @ 3:00:55 PM

Oh you're right, I forgot about the range thing. Definitely a big plus.

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natho86
Monday, June 14, 2010 @ 11:14:17 PM
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Wow that was pretty dull from M$! you get a new and improved eye toy, games that we new were coming and to top it all off they had to give a heap of the new model 360 away because it was goin so lame lol. Now its sony chance to blow M$ out of E3.

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main_event05
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 1:38:58 AM
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Saw the MGS R demo today. I wasn't really impressed but at the same time i wasn't disappointed. Well, I was in a different sense.

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Robochic
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 1:49:31 AM
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I find it funny how they hype over the bigger hdd for xbox makes me laugh, i've still have a bigger hdd in my PS3 thats what I love about it I can have a bigger hdd all I want, people are going to race for this and learn you still can't upgrade unless u buy a whole new console.

Can;t wait for later today for Sony's conference :) getting pretty excited.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 3:11:24 AM
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Damn, wish I'd stayed at my sister's place today, and tomorrow, I could have watched them, and have been updating here as I watched, and as you updated. Oh well, I need the money more. Kinect is a joke. It's a glorified PSEye, with voice recognition. The combination of PSEye and PSMove is a far more powerful tool for gaming, particularly when used in conjunction with a 3D set. That's all I have to say about that.

Sony know what they're doing with their SKUs. Have done all along, and will continue to do so. They've long since announced their ten year cycle, and they will stick to it. I don't doubt that they have a retaliatory strike against the new 360.

Rising, I want and have wanted all along, same with Dead Space 2. I'm keeping my eyes on MOH and AC:B, but Black Ops is nowhere in sight.

As far as looking for another site, I wouldn't bother anyway, but I like to get multiple views on any given subject, so I'll make sure to check out my other two sources. PSXExtreme always comes first though.

Oh, E3 is a lovely time to be a gamer.
Peace.

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___________
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 3:18:03 AM
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im a little worried about sonys release tomorrow.
i can see them doing exactly what M$ did today, and that really disappointed me!
as i said the other day i can see both focusing on their motion controllers, networks, and other tech but ignore hardcore games.
well, i got one part right, M$ did not announce 1 hardcore game, well besides that crytek one which we know nothing about.
i really hope sony does not follow suit, i hope they focus on announcing at least 3 new games we have not heard about.
but my guts telling me ill be leaving home very disappointed tomorrow morning, just like M$ did to me this morning.

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Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 8:41:31 AM

yeah but at least last E3 both showed off some amazing games.
this year i doubt we will get that though, just a drowning of casual games.
dont get me wrong some of those look like allot of fun, but they cant compare to the uncharteds and syphon filters of the world.

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Orvisman
Tuesday, June 15, 2010 @ 9:13:08 AM
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Well, I read a preview over at IGN where the PS3 guys, who were lukewarm on the Move previously, had a two-hour hands on session with the Move and came away suitably impressed with its pixel-perfect accuracy.

In short, they are now truly excited about the Move's possibilities.

One of them discussed the accuracy of the Move in terms of a play session for Socom 4 where he was behind cover and peeked out and shot the enemy in the only part of the body that was visible... his foot. Yes, his foot!

He went on to note there was no way he could've made that shot with a DualShock.

How is that for accuracy and a 1:1 ratio?

Oh, and they also discussed some tech geometry demo that allowed you to control things on your screen ala Minority Report.

All this in a $60 camera Sony released two-plus years ago.

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