Are PlayStation 3 And Wii Fans Polar Opposites?
See Full ImageI've always supported multi-console ownership. I feel naked with one console, even during my RPG craze of the original PlayStation era, when I basically despised the N64. Well, I loved the RPGs on the PC, too, so it was still technically "multi-platform," and ever since then, I've never only owned just one system. This is because there are always worthwhile games on all available consoles; the only question is whether there are enough of them - in your mind - to warrant a purchase.
Now, there have always been fans of particular consoles but at their core, even opposing fans are usually similar. They may have personal preferences, but they all tend to cherish and appreciate certain aspects of the industry. In looking at the PS3 and Wii, I realized that for the very first time, we might be looking at two extraordinarily different platforms that have spawned extraordinarily different followers; hence, we may be looking at two very different groups. The first comparison factor most will select is age, which is expected: the average demographic and target audience is indeed different for Sony and Nintendo, as both companies have plainly stated in the past. And you don't need that verification, either; anyone can see the distinct difference in target audience simply by opening their eyes. But this goes well beyond that...look at the consoles in question.
One claims to continually push the industry forward via cutting-edge technology and wishes to produce the software that defines progression and excellence. The other openly admits to not competing on the same technical level, while at the same time initially offering something new in motion sensing, and providing old and new gamers with widely accessible entertainment. I have no statistics to back it up, but I absolutely guarantee that more non-gamers have bought a Wii than any other console in history; it dragged in those who never played games before, from the ages of 8 to 88. That's nothing trivial and we all have to accept that it's quite the accomplishment and - perhaps indirectly - can be considered a boon for the industry on the whole. Those Wii-only casual gamers may get more involved and wish to dive in deeper, when Sony and Microsft will instantly benefit. It has probably already happened.
So maybe in time, Wii fans will become more similar to PS3 and 360 fans but right now, I think we're not only looking at different audiences, we're looking at different audiences that value very different things. The Wii aficionados will quickly get all defensive and say they like "fun" and Nintendo does "fun" and doesn't waste time with uber-insane technicals. But that's an inherently faulty argument as I honestly believe I've had plenty of FUN with my PS3 and 360 titles; arguably far more FUN than I would have had with most any Wii title. "Fun" is entirely subjective, of course. But you can add nostalgia and classic gaming into this argument, as Nintendo has stuck to their guns (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.) throughout, and we've started to see new franchises, heroes and mascots from the other two. Lastly, online play being as huge as it is, that pretty much leaves the Wii out of the conversation, which sets the Wii even further apart.
All I know is that any time I ever talk to anyone who only owns a Wii, they are either an admitted casual gamer (to the point where they never played video games before the Wii), or they have very little interest in "cutting-edge" and anything of that sort. I can't recall a time in history when any fan of any console wanted things that are so very...different. That's all.
Tags: ps3 fans, wii fans, ps3 wii comparison
6/21/2010 12:19:39 PM Ben Dutka
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eLLeJuss
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 8:24:06 PM
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Scarecrow
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 11:12:13 PM
Exactly!
The xbox has always just been a Playstation clone.
Nintendo's consoles have always been unique. You always know you'll get something different with the Wii compared to the ps3/360
@eLLeJuss,
Not true, as Ben noted, the Wii has been bought by EVERYONE, from age 8 to age 88
So this whole "kids" notion is pure BS
I think those who only a Wii just prefer the artistic/colorful games and don't really give a damn 'bout shooting your friend in the head online.
Simple as that
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:00:49 PM
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I concur. The Wife and I have been house hunting, we've seen about 30 something houses and just about every one of them had a Wii. No PS3's or Xbox360's.
I also agree most who only own a Wii are not core gamers. My dad for example, he wanted a gaming system, i told him to go with the PS3 because he also likes HD but because of the price(at the time) and what he perceived as the "fun factor" he opted for the Wii. Well he never plays it and is now asking me what do look for when buying a PS3. ha!
I wanted to the best of the best. Seems PS3/Wii is the best combo you could go with considering just about every game on the Xbox is also on the PS3 and like piratedrunk said, they are so different.
Gears, Halo and Fable aren't worth the price of admission in my opinion.
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:09:11 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:13:57 PM
Then again i don't understand why people fawn over any Xbox exclusives. Non of them hold a candle to PS3 exclusives and even some Wii games for that matter. The amount of color used in Nintendo Made games alone beats most of whats on the Xbox.
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:44:46 PM
hell they still think natel will be the bomb that finally kills the ps3
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 4:47:46 PM
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just2skillf00l
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 6:20:07 PM
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:05:32 PM
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most people i know with wii's have very few games for it and really dont use it unless its socially. my cousin and i are huge on our ps3's he owns a 360 (his third) also. we have played the wii really about one time at another cousins house of ours. it was not impressive.
my aunt owns a wii and she actually uses it on a regular basis. she plays online with a younger cousin of mine since they live states away from eachother. that same aunt actually bought a blueray player instead of a ps3 because she thought the blueray player would be better. just shows what kind of thinking some people have. my dad was looking into a new tv and blueray kinds of things. i told him how sony invented blueray and was pushing all this tech, 2 weeks later he went out and bought a 55' samsung and a ps3. sadly he is far from a gamer but i can hope to bring it back out after 20 something years of being dormant.
i would have to say that the wii attracts a much different minded person than the ps3. not to say some wont like both.
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:10:10 PM
I have very few games as well. =/ But i did play the crap out of all of them. My Wii collection grew to about 10 games while my PS3 only had two, but since 2008, i think i have only added two games to my Wii collection and about 20 to my PS3 collection.
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:29:08 PM
did nintendo ever release that windwaker graphic redo??
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:42:05 PM
Nintendo needs to get on it! They started porting Gamecube games with Wii controls in 2008 i think.(though most of these have been Japan releases) Hopefully Wind Waker is in the works.
Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are my favorite Zelda titles to date.
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:50:50 PM
nintendo has given me a lot of gaming memories and it almost seems like it would be weird for them to change at this point. with everything going hi-def at this piont though they may have to step the game up soon.
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:47:24 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:24:02 PM
Oh, how i would love to play Skyward Sword in sweet 1080p goodness though!
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Alienange
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:06:28 PM
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As a side note, nostalgia is not always a plus. Nostalgia makes you wish you were playing the beloved Nintendo games of yesteryear. The Wii has not filled that void and it has led to much frustration on the part of those who got a Wii hoping for a little positive nostalgia.
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Alienange
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:35:18 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:40:25 PM
Send me a message to my PSX inbox if you want to tell me. No worries if you don't.
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johnld
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 4:13:53 PM
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Snicket
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:08:47 PM
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I remember reading a survey that that studied how many hours people spent playing games on a platform (PS3, 360, Wii etc...) what the study found was that while more people bought a Wii, people spent more time playing the Gamecube (in terms of hours) than the Wii, in fact the Wii was dead last in terms of hours people spent playing it.
Now if you look at the Wii with that study and this article in mind, you can really get a clear picture of who is useing the wii and what for.
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ace_boon_coon
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:11:19 PM
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NeoHumpty
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:14:29 PM
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I'd love to see how many total hours I have in on ps3 vs. my Wii. Hell, I have 60 hours in as an Engineer alone on Team Fortress. I'd bet I don't have 60 hours total invested in the Wii.
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johnld
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 4:15:08 PM
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kraygen
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:38:34 PM
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Might as well just pick up a NES or SNES and get all the nostalgia, same graphics, and excitement as the wii.
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TEG3SH
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:44:27 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:48:50 PM
As for the graphics, while they aren't the best they are better then the Gamecube and the PS2. Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 look great as well as Metroid Prime Trilogy. Its not a PS3 but it is much, much more then just and NES or SNES with motion controls.
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kraygen
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 12:59:08 AM
I'll believe most of what you say, however mario games can't really scream good graphics. It's a short cartoon character, nothing even remotely difficult about him in a graphic sense.
I've seen a lot of gameplay from wii games and never seen one that could compare to ps2 or gamecube.
Heck the new 007 goldeneye looks exactly like the n64 version. Wii is n64 graphics at best.
Show me a link if you've got a game that looks better, but I don't consider cartoons graphical feats of engineering, no matter how fun mario is.
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TEG3SH
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:42:38 PM
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TEG3SH
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:51:05 PM
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Lawless SXE
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:49:42 PM
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My father was watching a piece on A Current Affair about how the Wii was in nursing homes helping to keep the oldies on their feet. He said it was a good idea and I told him it was a gaming console. He flipped the coin. Hypocrite...
I don't own a Wii personally and do not want to. It is not an exercise machine, despite common belief. It is not designed with the hardcore audience in mind. It is a social console. Something for parties and the novelty. That being said, there is a massive gap in the people that play the Wii exclusively and those that play the 360/ps3 exclusively. Would I say that it is completely different in terms of the thought processes, no. Why you ask? Both groups are willing to immerse themselves in the experience that is on offer, and while they may be completely different experiences, there is still that lingering mentality. Oh damn, I was going to write something else but it slipped my mind...
Peace.
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Underdog15
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 8:40:21 PM
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 1:33:33 AM
Peace.
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SvenMD
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:11:16 PM
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Now I can't say that I'm a big-time Wii player. I bought it for the wife and for parties...and I mainly play the Super Mario Galaxy games and then the Metroid Trilogy. And in my opinion those 5 games are worth the purchase of a Wii. All the other games are either too "kiddy" or they can be done much better on the PS3.
So I agree with Jawknee that the best combo is the PS3/Wii...it just keeps everyone happy. But honestly the Wii is in fact just for "fun", the PS3 is for the bad ass effin' awesomeness!!!
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:04:35 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:21:25 PM
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ABUrabad
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:14:45 PM
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i don't have a Wii at home but i respect it for its originality and beside that the PS3 owns Wii a great favor i think,because i think when the Xbox was released a year earlier than a PS3 it had the
chance to get a lot more console owners that have transfered to the last generation consoles but lot of them preferred to transfer to Wii and that kept the console sale's figure of both Xbox and PS3 close for each other at this moment, without Wii i think that we would look a greater difference at the sale's chart in the favor to the Xbox
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 1:49:07 AM
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TheOldOne
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:16:41 PM
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Sol
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:28:13 PM
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:59:26 PM
for as much nintendo stuff that i have i wish sony had some ps3 tshirts i could wear.
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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:29:18 PM
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I play games to have fun, not to brag about the technology under the hood. Thats why i have everything for God of War to World of Goo on my shelf. Fun is fun, screw the console wars.
I do not, however, have a 360. I find that most of the good "exclusives" will eventually show up on PC, so i havent found a need to buy a 360.
Imo, people need to appreciate what nintendo did with the wii a bit more instead of always making fun of it. The wii turned people into gamers who had never even thought about playing games before. Sony is pushing the industry upwards, and ninetendo is pushing outwards to new customers. A prefect compliment to each other if you ask me.
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 4:11:35 PM
i grew up with mario, metroid and zelda. my daughter is growing up with sackboy, mag and ratchet & clank. im a little jealous.
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dveisalive
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:40:09 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:42:42 PM
At least with Apple you are getting quality hardware.
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frylock25
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:53:54 PM
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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:18:48 PM
And with Apple you'd probably end up paying 50% more for a weaker console.
And lets not forget the Pippin.
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TheOldOne
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:34:41 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:21:44 PM
Over priced? Yes but their hardware is usually the goods. :P
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TEG3SH
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:31:30 PM
dude when apple makes something it makes it the best, they were never interested in gaming so their macs are weak( compared to Pc's but they work 10x times better). if ur interested in computer gaming u should buy either Alienware or Mac pro
Apple makes the best hardwares out there, no one could come close not even the high respectable sony .
Iphone the best(although at first I hated it ), laptops the best and now the best tablet. U can call me an Apple fanboy but believe me I'm not, I call it as it is thats why Ps3 ranks supreme in consoles, BMW in cars and Apple in computers
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Phoelix
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:04:52 PM
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I also don't really believe that the Wii is a good gateway drug for non-gamers to become gamers; that'd be like opening up a WWF-style (as in fake) wrestling arena in hopes that people will eventually get hooked on MMA or some other real fighting sport.
Since Nintendo decided to start making games for my grandmother, they decided not to make games for me.
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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:19:59 PM
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Phoelix
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:25:46 PM
That being said, I don't believe Nintendo is going to contribute anything other than a handful (wildly fun) games (that aren't new IP's) to the industry. They aren't going to make my mother actually respect video games; rather they'd affirm that they're just a bunch of games for little kids.
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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:04:04 PM
I grow tired of people discounting games as "kid games" just because it doesnt feature grizzled space marines or stupidly deep weapon systems.
I dont even care if a game is geared toward 8 year olds. If its fun its fun, and thats all i care about.
Nintnedo contributes just as much to the industry as anyone else. Sony is blatantly ripping off Wii Sports, there have been countless Mario Kart clones, nobody has ever come close to the prefect balance of action and puzzle solving that LoZ gives us. So what if its an old IP? Things dont have to be new for it to be good. Twisted Metal has been aroudn for ages and people are still excited about it. Gran Turismo has been around almost as long yet nobody bashes Sony for bringing up an old IP.
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TEG3SH
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:42:58 PM
although I disagree with you on anything u said against nintendo, as soon as I saw TM I was like hell yeah this guy knows what he is o about, yeah i'm a sucker for TM
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Phoelix
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 9:52:01 AM
(I wasn't too much of a fan of the two Zelda games I played (Wind Waker and Twilight Princess))
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Alienange
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:15:20 PM
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For a while there it was looking like Nintendo only added wifi to the Wii to facilitate the sale of dlc.
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Jawknee
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:19:53 PM
Not happening.
The only game i have been able to play online for an extended amount of time with little to no lag is Smash Bros.
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CharlesD
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:57:32 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:11:20 PM
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FullmetalX10
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 3:59:53 PM
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Moving on, I haven't enough reason to go out and spend my money on either other console on the market(wii or xbox). If I would want to play an xbox game I can find it on the PC, and I don't feel the need to play any of the xbox games nor wii games, I'm perfectly fine with what Playstation is offering.
But yeah, most people I know who own a wii just use it for parties and such events, they're just casual gamers, though I know a total of 2 people who actually have their version of hardcore gaming and are happy with it, and who am I then to take this away from them, they have no interest for the cutting edge, as was stated.
In the end I guess it will always be the same people seeking out the content most fitting to them on the console most fitting with them, and Nintendo and Sony both are fitting platforms for the people.
Oh yeah, and xbox for the twitchers.
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telly
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 4:32:06 PM
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HeXeN
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 4:50:50 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:09:44 PM
They could have a move-like accessory, but instead of focusing on casual games, have the tech to bring in the multiplats, but do what the Dreamcast did best and that's "Arcade" style titles. Think of arcade game reboots in full HD.
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Jawknee
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WorldEndsWithMe
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TEG3SH
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:36:44 PM
hells yeah another Dreamcast will be awesome, still have my old one and I still play it to this time :)
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WorldEndsWithMe
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TEG3SH
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WorldEndsWithMe
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WorldEndsWithMe
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WorldEndsWithMe
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Drodin
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:21:10 PM
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But once the flagship titles are done the Wii doesn't hold up to a longevity test. So over time the FPH begins to level out to about the level of the PS3, which is a steadier stream of good content.
Also, I just recently got a 360 thanks to the price drops, but have only really played Banjo Kazooie and Tooie on it so it's not fair to credit them for that Fun, it's still Nintendo's. But I don't have much interest for their 'flagship' titles, I was just tired of a handful of (RPG) exclusives I couldn't get anywhere else, not Halo or any other FPS junk.
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Shams
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:37:16 PM
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AcHiLLiA
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 10:31:15 PM
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Scarecrow
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 11:24:21 PM
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I think the ps3 and Wii compliment each other
I'd rather own a console that preaches exclusives and is very unique than mainstream console like the 360 which is just a PC masked to look like a console.
I know all consoles are basically PCs, but the way their designed says a lot. The 360 is designed with an online subscription in mind, voice chat, and a WHOLE lot of FPSs. <---Isn't that what defines PC gaming? (ok maybe add RTS and MMOs), but other than that, it's basically a PC.
The Wii will always appeal to those who are not afraid to explore a colorful world that is.......FUN
Muramasa, No More Heroes, Klonoa!, yeah those are the real deal!
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DemonNeno
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 11:37:17 PM
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I've played on the Wii and can tell you for sure that the library is very limited to me. Not because much isn't available but it's due to the fact that little interests me. If anything, the motion control upsets me. It's integration with many d-pad games makes me feel like I'm having a temper tantrum rather than utilizing the controls.
It's just.. Childish. The bland feel for what you're doing, the poor response of controls which ultimately lead to forgiving & sometimes undesired responses and most importantly has to be the titles.
Now, I don't hate the Wii. I think Nintendo did a fine job at sticking to their own basics. It just never got off the ground with titles adults would enjoy. It never had controls that made me, as the player, feel like I am in control. It just plain ole made me want to bust out in anger at the lack of control!
Sony has more going for its' iteration of motion control that Nintendo has ever put the effort to produce. I think the Move will indeed bring the two consoles closer to one anothers' realms, but will ultimately succeed at keeping the masses of all ages, shapes and sizes much happier.
BTW, Online multiplayer to me is not a great selling point. As an avid gamer who never has enough seat time to get remotely near as good at a game as those who dedicate free time strictly to gaming, I am never happy with the experience of online gaming. It makes me realize how little it is about having fun and how stern some of the competition likes to be. Now, I've enjoyed a few things online. I've done some SFIV online with mixed results, but it was still enjoyable. That is as far as my enjoyment as led me.
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Temjin001
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 12:14:58 AM
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For myself, I happen to disagree that the Wii and Sony platform are best for each other. As Microsoft, in contrast to the Wii, puts out a far greater offering of content that looks and plays like the games I want to spend my time with.
Fanboys need to get passed who's writing who's paycheck and realize that playing the sort of content we want to engage in matters most. Not blind loyalty to a corporation trying to make a profit.
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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 12:56:43 AM
Nintendo has better quality than Microsoft
Most of 360's games are multiplatform or milked out series like Halo and Call of D00ty
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Temjin001
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 1:18:28 AM
I simply can not think about what you stated without a dozen red lights flashing.
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 7:39:27 AM
It's all well and good that 360 apparently offers you more of the type of game you appreciate, and for that reason alone, you also have a good point, Temjin001. However, I don't really feel like Master Chief and Marcus et al are very memorable characters... especially compared to the other names in your list. Nathan Drake is a far more colorful and intelligent character than the two aforementioned individuals, and Kratos, although not a very DEEP thinker, is far more bada$$.
I think, as Ben mentioned in this article, quality goes beyond graphical quality, and even if it didn't, Gears and Halo are far from groundbreakers. Especially as their series progress to further titles. In terms of overall quality, I think you can assess the Wii system and many of it's games, far more reliable than the 360, and in some cases, the PS3. I believe most of that has to do with the lack of new technology to work with, however, it's not like Wii owners have to worry about a RROD or YLOD.
In the end, though, the only thing I really have to 100% disagree with your direction on was this comment:
"Fanboys need to get passed who's writing who's paycheck and realize that playing the sort of content we want to engage in matters most. Not blind loyalty to a corporation trying to make a profit."
I don't even think I need to construct a full blown argument. Plain and simple rebuttle is, you're using this argument to defend Micro$oft against PS3+Wii fanboyism. Additionally, I think the Wii does give appropriate content to it's target audience. If you want to have lots of shallow shooters in your collection, by all means, continue with your 360 fandom (not fanboyism. I didn't say that.) But Scarecrow doesn't raise red flags with his comment. It's the start of a decent argument.
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Temjin001
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 10:00:42 AM
Everything I stated (and before) has been independent of quality.
I will not engage in a quality debate. It wasn't my point.
Scarecrow's comments were not a start of a good argument. An argument should at least have substantiated claims.
"Quality > identity"
The topic wasn't ever this. Okay, maybe a misunderstanding. Can you at least list the great quality games that Nintendo offers?
"Nintendo has better quality than Microsoft"
Halo, Fable, Forza, Alan Wake, Banjo are all quality MS published titles. If when including near-exclusive content: Splinter Cell Conviction, Mass Effect, Bayonetta-kinda-sorta, Gears of War.
The Mario's, Zelda's, and Metroid's I've played have also been quality.
Quality+content = play
There are many quality games out there. More than I could ever play. I'll pair up quality with the kind of content I want to view.
"Most of 360's games are multiplatform or milked out series like Halo and Call of D00ty"
Most of any platforms content is multi-platform.....
Is Halo anymore milked out than the sea of Zelda's and Mario-spinoffs?
And Underdog, I agree my last statement about fanboys wasn't necessary, or really part of my original thoughts. THough, I do believe there's some truth to be had from it.
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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 12:49:33 PM
I think, though, that beyond quality (an often subjective ideal, it seems), Nintendo's catered to demographic is unique enough that, although Sony can offer the same types of experiences as Nintendo, it appears to be an economical gaming solution for people not typically into gaming. As ludicrous as it seems, PS3 and XBOX 360 have a lot to offer, but most of it isn't what those types of people want. So they go with something that is strictly along the lines of what they were thinking of.
You and I both know, I think, that PS3 SHOULD be the ideal solution with all it offers. (Why people get a blu-ray player as opposed to PS3 is beyond me. Might as well just get a dvd player for cheap.) PS3 offers the casual gaming titles, as well, but nearly with as much quantity as the Wii. Additionally, it's the more core gamers that are typically catered to, so a Wii fan would probably say the PS3 is too intense. They just want a simple and fun machine that they can play on occasion. It's a unique situation. Unique enough to warrant an entire article and comment section like this!
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Robochic
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 1:17:58 AM
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honestly I only buy quality not popularity and Sony and Nintendo have always always been true to the customers and always had quality hardware, I've never had to replace (knock on wood) any console that I've owned except my PSP but that was me not watching my son with it and falling down 3 flights of stairs so thats my fault.
I do agree Nintendo needs to move their butt into gear and make more Wii games I haven't added to my collection in over a year, I do look forward to the new Zelda coming out but I would love more games.
For Sony whats their to say year after year they bring out amazing games, hardware, and perphials for the PS3 and I couldn't be more happy with my PS3.
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Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 6:25:01 AM
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i know heaps of people who have both a ps3 and a wii and enjoy them equally.
all the guys in my tafe classes all 50 of them all have gaming PCs, wii, 360 and PC.
almost everyone i know has all 3.
its because they offer such different games to each other.
the ps3 gives you hardcore violent state of the art games like uncharted 2 or GOW3.
the wii gives you casual fun games like mario kart or the conduit.
both cross over slightly, like ps3 has some kids games ala LBP and the wii has some hardcore violent games like mad world. but they certainly have their mindsets.
8 days and im getting rid of my PSP and getting a wii.
i dont use my PSP anymore, the last time i turned it on was last month when i went away to QLD, before that it was last freaking year!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sony really need to start supporting the PSP better, i mean the only game coming out on PSP is GOW GOS thats it 1 game, 1 game in comparison to the 10s the wii, 360 and ps3 have to offer.
the only reason the PSP sells so well is because of the ease of piracy and availability of games and emulators.
without those it would of sunk like the titanic!!!!!
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ffyfe7
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 9:37:26 AM
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PS - Also who misses the days of almost every game having splitscreen multiplayer?
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Phoelix
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 9:52:51 AM
Did you see though that Twisted Metal will have this? That pleased me.
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piratedrunk
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Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 12:58:24 PM
I play all kinds of games so with both systems I can play absolutely anything that fits my mood. I think they compliment each other very nicely.