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Platinum: PS3 Is A "High-Performance" Sports Car

When the PlayStation 3 first launched, Sony said their machine was filet mignon while anything else was a McDonald's hamburger.

Now, a developer is making a similar comparison. Platinum Games, the team responsible for the upcoming Vanquish, has made some comments on the PS3/360 comparison, and they're not likely to go over well with Microsoft fans. In speaking to VG247 at E3, Platinum boss Atsushi Inaba said the PS3's architecture provides a designer with more power while the 360 gives a developer "more versatility." Said Inaba:

"The PS3 is kind of like a sports car that’s very high-performance and specific in its usage, whereas the 360 is more like a car that everybody’s driving. It doesn’t have the same range as a sports car, but it has more versatility."

Remember, Platinum used the Xbox 360 as the lead development platform for Bayonetta and consequently, PS3 owners suffered an inferior port. Now, the same team is using Sony's console as the lead machine for Vanquish, which is a fast-paced, third-person shooter with plenty of snazzy appeal. Inaba went on to say the process is about "adapting your game to those two sorts of different frameworks and this time, the two experiences - on PS3 and 360 - will be exactly the same. Well, the comments have been made so there's no going back; we wonder if other developers feel the same way.

We see the analogy this way- a sports car is preferable, but it's not something for the snow, and it's usually no fun for grocery shopping.  But for just plain driving...it excels.

Related Game(s): Vanquish

Tags: ps3 and 360, vanquish, comparison

6/24/2010 10:43:10 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (80 posts)

Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 10:57:45 AM
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Man, these devs need to find away to make the PS3 versions better instead of "identical". Screw the Xbox if it can't hang. That's MS fault not Playstation 3 owners.

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godsman
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:24:04 AM

Unfortunately many developers, maybe even Platinum will use this Sports Car to drive in the locals rather than the freeway.

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shadowscorpio
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:29:17 AM

I agree. 360 is just a PS3 clone. If you ask me the xbox 360, like the Wii should have its seperate installment of games apart from the PS3. The PS3, Xbox 360 and the Wii for that matter are NOT on the same level.

If the devs made more exclusive games rather than multiplats that catered to the capabilites of 'that' system , each would hold a value of its own.

I could go on but i'll stop here. I think the point was made.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:36:55 AM

Well, the CPU in the 360 did steal a number of features from the Cell project by virtue of the designers at IBM working on both projects....so in a way, your statement is far truer than you think.

Sadly for Microsoft, the designers didn't bring any of the secrets of the SPEs with them.

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Bugzbunny109
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 1:46:44 PM

@Jawknee
I agree, but remember that MS is sheading a lot of cash to developers to keep their games AT LEAST up to par with the PS3. So unless Sony is willing to bring forth more money than MS, then the quality of multi-platform games will remain the same on both consoles. I believe Sony has already understood this; and instead of trying to out-buy MS, they decided to fund their 1st party developers. This is why we are seeing more PS3 exclusives compared to the Xbox360.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:06:15 AM
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Well, that's an interesting way for a games developer to put it. Microsoft built a general purpose machine and Sony built something that was built for speed and performance.

OK, Microsoft is a PC software company that writes Operating systems and Office productivity software. PCs are the archetype of a general purpose personal computer system. Is it any wonder that their system is described as more versatile, in other words more general purpose.

Sony on the other hand has made game systems that focus on media performance, they are more adept at dealing with media than Microsoft, and so they build a media powerhouse.

Then along come an army of PC educated PC game developers who know the standard general purpose architecture. Is it any wonder that they prefer (initially) the more general purpose system? Game developers more comfortable with the PS2 architecture that was a SIMD machine (just like the PS3) and used multiple processor architectures with insane bandwidth (just like PS3), seem to have had an easir time adapting to, and exploiting, the power and performance of the PS3.

Seems like Platinum is simply confirming this with their comments.

Nice.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:10:24 AM

These devs who say they have a hard time with the PS3 sound like whiners to me. If your setting out to create something, adapt to the tools at hand and make the best product you can with the tools given. Too many devs see the easy way out and focus on the Xbox giving PS3 owners the shaft.

I'm happy to see Platinum changed its tune.

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Douchebaguette
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:09:53 AM
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Just watched the gameplay trailer.

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"We've got appoximately 8 hours to stop that from happening. We WILL...stop that from happening."

That line was as lame as a deflated turd.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:10:59 AM

meh, the game still looks fun. I can get over lame dialog.

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fluffer nutter
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:12:01 AM

How do you deflate a turd?

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Milonakis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:12:04 AM

"If we don't stop this the world will end 2 days before the day after tomorrow!"

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:37:28 AM

With a straw?

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:08:18 PM

@MyWorst,

LOL, that sounded like a Kevin Butler quote...

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:15:26 PM

pew, pew!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 3:32:58 PM

Try a "junk shot"

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elass0wyp0
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:11:21 AM
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That's what I would say too if I were developing a game on the obvious weakest console (arcade360) and porting it to a far superior console to trick the PS3 owners into thinking that any dev gives a rats corpse about the final PS3 product. Quality is a thing of exclusives.

Get the game out as fast as possible and move on to the next thing. Lie, cheat, steal. Once it ships, money rolls in, no one cares anymore. Fast one successfully pulled. Rinse, repeat on next title.

Note he didn't say the lead console was the PS3, therefore this game will pull a Bayonetta on us.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:16:33 AM

I blame MS for this. They have for years rolled out their products with bugs and glitches. They take the mind "release now and patch later if and when people start complaining." A lot of the game companies who work closely with them seem to do the same thing. MW2 had a patch a week for months after release because the game was so broken.

Sony on the other hand seems to demand a certain level of quality. Most of their exclusives have required little to no maintenance or tune ups after release. With the exception of Uncharted 2 where Naughty Dog is always trying to make the multiplayer better. The single player was flawless.

Also do a little search in the archives. The PS3 is the lead platform, Mikami has made that clear time and time again.

::facepalm::

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elass0wyp0
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:28:46 AM

Doh, my bad. I haven't been following this specific title but gimme a break, this isn't common by any stretch-it was safe to assume-maybe that's changing. I stand corrected.

PS3 as the lead should make for an interesting fanboy site comparison video.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:30:33 AM

@Jawknee,

Sony's culture is that of a tier 1 consumer Electronics manufacturer. Their initial product quality must be very high or they have to eat the returns and failures. Microsoft has a completely different culture. This difference shows in the design of the PS3 and 360 hardware.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:34:40 AM

You can tell the Xbox is junk just by picking it up. The Wii feels more solid then the Xbox. haha!

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Sir Dan
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:14:14 AM
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Yeah but sports cars usually break down more. An every day car is durable. This is an area where the analogy breaks down.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:18:27 AM

I don't think that's right. They may wear down a bit more because they are higher performance but because they are higher performance they are built them with a certain level of craftsmanship that can withstand the abuse. Unlike junko cars like Pintos. Your average car, yet a death trap.

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Sir Dan
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:24:50 AM

Not my experience anyway. LOL :(

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:31:27 AM

Sports cars made by wannabe sports car manufacturers do. Sports cars made by sports car manufacturers generally have better reliability - at least that is my experience.

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shadowscorpio
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:36:16 AM

You sure sports cars break down more. As far as I've seen it the 360 has had more problem 'breaking down'.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:37:35 AM

Well that was his point Shadow, That the PS3 is a sports car that doesn't break down while the 360 is supposed to be the less stressed car so it shouldn't break down but it does.

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Sir Dan
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:54:54 AM

The point was a that it was a "very high performance" sports car. Not a sports car. Not to be a scutch but your Ferrari, Lamborghini and Jaguar's are very high maintenance. Mainly because most people use them for purposes they weren't intended for. ie stop and go, city traffic. Anyway, PS3 rules.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:09:54 PM

LOL, there is nothing sadder than a Ferrari doomed to do the weekly grocery run...If a car could cry, I think a Ferrari in a city center would have puddles of tears.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:09:54 PM

LOL, there is nothing sadder than a Ferrari doomed to do the weekly grocery run...If a car could cry, I think a Ferrari in a city center would have puddles of tears.

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:14:39 PM

Would be no room for the grocery bags either. I guess that is what side mirrors are for. Just put the mirrors through the loops of the bags, and off you go.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:54:55 PM

Sir Dan

Wrong analogy I think & here's why,

The guy who owns a Bugatti Veyron will always baby his car,

But a Yugo owner does nothing more than keep his ownership title handy, just in case he has to junk it at the nearest scrapyard, then he'll go looking for another Yugo.

Hmmmm, sound like 2 console we all know????

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VicTheMighty
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 4:37:02 PM

Yeah but his analogy was about performance. Not durabilty.

If you want to compare durability i'd compare the ps3 to a Tank and the xbox to a cartboard box with wheels. XD

And personally I think it works since the Ps3 is also way more of a pain to repair. In my experience I was very disappointed in Sony's customer care lol.

PS3 is freaking more reliable but damn when it breaks down on you it makes you want to cry lol. Lost my assassin's creed 2 game with 97/100 feathers since it is locked to the system. And Sony is not even capable to transfer saves from their very own machine... I was like: WoW you guys don't even have the tools to work on your very own freaking machine?! They give the impression to totally not care about the time we invest on their machine and just tell you to buy a new one or pay 200$ to get it fixed at their place lol. Neway, I guess every compagny has a dark side to em huh? lol

Sry had to let it come out. But yeah for a small comparison I don't even own a 360 anymore because it died 3 times on me within 2 yrs lol. And my ps3 was nearly 3 yrs old when it yellow light on me. But at least when the 360 dies you can just swap the HDD and your games follow. The ps3 just automatically formats the HDD if you try to transfer :(


So yeah a tank is way more durable but when it breaks down good luck to find the parts to pull it back up :P... Compared to the crappy cartboard box with wheels that has parts you can get in a garbage near you :D lol


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THEGODSLAYER
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:15:44 AM
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well then what happens when the sports car is the same price as the car that everybody's driving? everyone starts buying the sports car =]

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Doosharm
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:17:39 AM
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While I understand what they are trying to say I keep getting hung up on the language they use. It would almost suggest that all the PS3 is good for is gaming and nothing else while, to me, it has far more to offer than the 360.

Its like they're calling the PS3 a McLaren F1, an amazing machine no doubt, but built largely for speed, while I see it as more of a Bugatti Veyron, also built for speed but with a whole lot more bells and whistles to boot.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:32:15 AM

It's almost like they're saying that the PS3 is a home video game console and the Xbox360 is a PC...

;)

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Scarecrow
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 1:10:19 PM

The 360 IS an outdated PC, nothing more.

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 1:43:20 PM

They are saying you can get *much* higher performance out of the ps3, but you have to know what you are doing. Anyone who has been driving for even a few days can master driving a stock civic. However, it takes years of training in order to take full advantage of what an F1 has to offer.
So they are saying the Xenon in the 360 can be used by pretty much everyone with very little effort, but you are going to hit its limits fairly easily too. The Cell in the ps3 requires much more effort to use correctly, but will end up out-performing anything else on the market.
Which is pretty much what most developers have been saying for a while; the Cell is a pain in the ass, but it can do almost anything.

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Milonakis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:17:42 AM
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But some people think their getting a sports car when all there getting is a car with a red pinstripe down the side. AKA The red pinstripe of death.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 3:37:18 PM

racing stripes make u go faster

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 7:17:27 PM

And make you a badass.

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Milonakis
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 1:01:05 AM

and putting a spoiler on an old piece of crap civic!

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JackC8
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:24:48 AM
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So last time they gave us an absolutely crap port so they could spend all their time on the 360 version. This time, instead of taking advantage of what the "sports car" can do (since it's the lead platform) - they're giving us exactly the same experience as the "general purpose" thing gets?

Gosh, thanks ever so much.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:34:23 AM

They're like a driver who's always driven a station wagon suddenly thrust into the driver's seat of a tricked out 370Z. Do you think that the station wagon driver will get the best out of the sports car? They've spent years learning the tricks to getting the station wagon to take a corner at 32mph, and when they hit the same corner in the sports car they think they can go faster, lose control and wrap the car around a tree.

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kraygen
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 1:11:26 PM

either that or they drive the sports car even slower because it scares them.

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:12:57 PM
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How many discs will the 360 version be? If it is only 1, then they didn't make this game be all it can be considering the PS3 is the lead machine.

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Mamills
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:14:22 PM
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heard this song and dance a million times already, but yet the ps3 version will only be identical to 360 version?

yea, ill stick to the exclusives.

(don't get me wrong, I'm sure Vanquish will be awesome, but most likely wont be anything special. i'll rent it for sure though.)

just tired of hearing this sh** and then the games are only good enough to be identical.

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StangMan80
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:38:29 PM
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I say make the game with the PS3 full potential and then take away from the 360 versions so both systems are at full potential.
This happens so much, us PS3 owners are getting the short end of the stick.

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CharlesD
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:44:25 PM
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I'm not entirely certain I want a PS3 game that can be done just as good on the 360... maybe I've been incredibly spoiled by all the great exclusives lately

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 12:54:47 PM

I hear you, but you should take it on a game by game basis. Bayonetta on the PS3? PASS! RDR on the PS3? GET! Batman:AA? GET! Just because a game is going to be on the 360, doesn't mean it can't still be a great game on the PS3, and just because a game is exclusive to the PS3, doesn't mean it will be great (Haze for example).

And a poorer example, is Joe Danger. It is on both, and is marvelous! Bad example I know, since the graphics are meant to be simple, it is a PSN game after all, but any chance to bring up that game, to give it publicity, is a chance not to be missed. GREAT GAME! It brings the fun in spades!

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The Stig
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 7:20:13 PM

@ MyWorstNightmar, I thought Joe Danger was a PSN exclusive.

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:12:59 PM

Stig, I've seen online that it is coming to Xbox and also PC. As a rule, I never trust the internet, but I've seen it multiple places, and I don't believe Hello Games has ever said it will only be on the PSN.

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The Stig
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:29:23 PM

Im sure when I was on the store earlier it said that it was a PSN exclusive, I could be confusing it with another game thats been released recently.

Update: Just checked and it is indeed exclusive to PSN

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:38:09 PM

The Stig is correct. It does say PSN exclusive on the purchase page.

Playstation Netword Exlusive.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:45:19 PM

Bah crap, i tried to repost but alas, i was too late.

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 9:40:25 PM

So if that is true, am I wrong to be happy about that? HA! Sorry for Xbots that don't get to enjoy this great game. Well, I hope these 4 guys that made this game get plenty of dough from Sony to keep this exclusive then. Can't wait to see what they come up with next.

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kraygen
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 1:15:57 PM
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What's even the point of leading with the ps3 if you're still going to gimp it by making it equal to the 360 version.

I really don't care what platform you lead on, the ps3 version should always be better because the ps3 is simply a better machine.

As for vanquish, it looks like a third person halo with a cover system. Not for me really, I am becoming more and more disappointed by devs who continually downgrade my games simply to please the 360 fanboys.

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piratedrunk
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 1:26:31 PM
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I personally hope this is "exactly the same" the way SE said FFXIII was on the ps3 and 360. If so we can expect a much prettier version at the very least.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 1:44:21 PM
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Why does (almost) everyone instantly assume negativity when they read identical versions? I mean, yes I suppose it makes sense given that the best of the ps3 is far superior to the best of 360, but didn't S-E say the same about FFXIII, and look how that turned out?

As for Platinum's analogy, I don't like it. What do they mean by saying that it has more versatility? Do they mean that there is a greater variety of games that can be developed on it, because looking at the library, untrue. Do they mean that it is easier to develop on? Well that may be true, but that doesn't necessarily make it the more versatile device. I want clarification here guys.

Are they saying that the 360 is a media server while the ps3 is a games machine, because that ain't true either. I give up. Devs are delusional.

So far as Vanquish is concerned, a super-fast shooter doesn't really appeal to me. That phrase alone makes it seem as though its going to have serious control issues in terms of accuracy. But as always I reserve judgement until I hear more info that gets me excited, or I read some great previews and reviews.

@ Douchebaguette,
It's a game developed by the Japanese. Surely you've come to expect some seriously facepalm-worthy dialogue by now.
Peace all.

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JackC8
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 2:07:08 PM

Yeah, I was kind of excited about this a couple months ago, but at that time I was picturing something like Dead Space except more action oriented and without the horror aspect. After seeing the gameplay demo, it's starting to look like a twitch gamer's wet dream. I dunno, it might be good, but my enthusiasm for it is rather low at this point.

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 4:02:56 PM

What they are saying describes the architectures quite well actually. The 360 features a CPU with three double issue general purpose CPU cores. The PS3 on the other hand has a CPU with 1 dual issue general purpose CPU core and 7 cores that are specifically designed for high speed media tasks and floating point math.

I would argue with anyone that says that the cell architecture is less flexible than the Xenon. It's a matter of how you approach the task. The Xenon is a simpler architecture but no more versatile than Cell.

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Wissam
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 2:11:57 PM
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Maybe they learned the lesson after the inferior ps3 version of bayonetta outsold the x360 counterpart.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 6:23:18 PM

And it could have sold more if many weren't turned off by the inferior product.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 3:38:11 PM
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I don't want this game.

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MyWorstNightmar
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 6:39:34 PM

Nor do I, however, I reserve the right to change my mind at a moments notice. Tis a feminine quality to be sure.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 7:05:23 PM

Bayonaise was poop, can't see this being much better.

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:17:29 PM

Mikami is behind this. He didn't make Bayonaise.

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sonic1899
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 9:26:17 PM

@WorldEndsWithMe
I'll bet a lot of people said the same thing about DMC3 after DMC2 didn't they. Besides, just because a company screwed up once doesn't mean they'll be consistent about making the same mistakes. :P

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SmokeyPSD
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 6:36:54 PM
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except that I'd say the ps3 does better in the versatility department, with more capabilities such as media, internet, etc.

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dveisalive
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:43:58 PM
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I believe GT5 will be the game that blows everything that the 360 has ever made PEIOD ! :P

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Jawknee
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 8:44:32 PM

Uncharted 2 and God of War III, already did that. Not to mention Killzone 2.

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bamf
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 10:05:42 PM
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I suppose they can say that the PS3 is like a Aston Martin Vanquish

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Highlander
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 11:15:37 PM

Nice one.

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Temjin001
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 10:07:31 PM
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Some good info for those who want a logical unbiased analysis of the design strengths and weaknesses between the PS3 and 360
These read easy enough for those who don't know much about the idiosyncrasies of game design.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ninjagaiden2-faceoff-article

An example of a game that plays to the strengths of each platforms abilities. NG2 is an extremely unique multi-platform game.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-bayonetta-faceoff

An example of a game that doesn't do anything to accommodate multi-platform design.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-assassins-creed-ii-face-off-article


An example of a multi-platform game that tries had for platform parody.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/the-making-of-god-of-war-iii


A example of a game playing to PS3's strengths (see also, Uncharted 2)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/the-making-of-god-of-war-iii


An example of a game designed to 360's strengths.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-halo-reach-beta-article


Sometimes I sense an overly black & white perspective between the two console architectures and hopefully those who take the time to read into a few of these may be enlightened by what they find. I know I have been.

... it's also cool to know that the Digital Foundry (and myself) agrees that GoW3 and Uncharted 2 are the cream of the crop in visual prowess this console gen.


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BikerSaint
Thursday, June 24, 2010 @ 10:54:58 PM
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HAAAAAA,
As if MS didn't already have a good enough reason to keep repeatedly kicking themselves in their own butts with their brand spanking new (but antiquated) 360 Squat........

Blu-ray doubles storage capacity
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49243-blu-ray-doubles-storage-capacity

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Jdogtookool
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 12:35:37 AM
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idk if i can agree with that but if anything all developers should always use the ps3 as the lead developing console

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Mavfan321
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 2:09:38 AM
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I'd take high performance sports cars over a Honda Civic anyway.

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Mavfan321
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 2:09:39 AM
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I'd take high performance sports cars over a Honda Civic anyway.

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___________
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 4:16:27 AM
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PG love blowing their own horn dont they?
im not convinced on vanquish i mean it just looks like the other billion and one shooters out there!

though i finally caved in and traded in my PSP since i have not used it in like 6 months and bought a wii.
playing mad world last night i cant believe of some of the creativity in the game.
i mean you rip a pole out of the ground, slam it through a guys head, pick up a trash bin, slam it over his head, than pick him up and slam him on a spike sticking out of the ground going in his a$$ and out his head!
i mean who the ^%$# thinks of these kinds of things?

i cant believe this did not get banned!
let me get this straight.
ripping a pole out of the ground, slam it through a guys head, pick up a trash bin, slam it over his head, than pick him up and slam him on a spike sticking out of the ground going in his a$$ and out his head is ok for a MA rated game, but blowing off a zombies head with a shotgun is not??????????????????????????

its official, the OFLC is corrupt!
looks like valve did not offer them enough incentive under the table if you know what i mean!

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maxpontiac
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 10:31:48 AM
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I look at the PS3 as a sports car with the versatility of family car.

It has the performance, yet does more then any other out there.

PG was only half right.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, June 25, 2010 @ 4:06:30 PM
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I'm glad I'm not shelling out my money to Microsoft's s***fixmebox.

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