Capcom: Next Round Of Consoles To Launch In 2012
See Full ImageSo who's ready for another round of consoles in 2012? Everyone, right?
Well, according to Capcom Europe COO and ex-SCEE CEO David Reeves, you had better be ready because the next generation could be here in only "two years time." He said that "all the first-parties have got to be working on something" at this point in time, although he didn't get into details. In talking about how PlayStation Move (which Capcom will "embrace") and 3D, Reeves admitted to not having any inside information concerning the likes of a fourth PlayStation or third Xbox, but still made his two-year belief plain. Well, let's see: the Xbox 360 will turn five later this year, while the PS3 will turn four. Looking at the last few generations, the PS2 came out in North America in October of 2000, about five and a half years after the original PlayStation, while the PS3 came out in November of 2006, about six years after the PS2. The Xbox 360 came out in fall of 2005, only four years after the original Xbox launched in the US.
So yeah, 2012 seems just about right, provided this cycle remains similar for the next generation. It's just hard to believe that we're in the fourth year of the PS3's existence already...
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6/29/2010 10:20:50 AM Ben Dutka
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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:01:41 AM
In addition to that, with Sony saying the PS3 will have a 10 year life cycle, that doesn't mean we won't see a PS4 BEFORE that 10 years is up. In fact you would expect to see one before the 10 years is up. Look at the PS2, it continued fairly strong even after the PS3 was introduced. So if we take Sony at their word, 2012 would technically be the date for the PS4.
Personally, I hope not. I think the PS3 could be stretched to a 13 year life cycle and beyond, and I would be just fine with that. I think a lot will depend on what M$ does, and that will force Sony's hand a bit. Sony is not on an island, they have to adjust their plans in accordance to what the competition does, just like the competition has to react and adjust according to what Sony does.
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Shams
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 1:24:59 PM
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frostface
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 10:38:59 AM
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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 1:11:30 PM
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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 10:39:32 AM
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Not buying it.
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Scarecrow
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:52:45 PM
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That other console is just maxed out and is actually starting to hold games back.
It's easy to see why Capcom wants Microsoft to release a new console.
Meanwhile, Gran Turismo 5, Littlebigplanet 2, Killzone 3, and The Last Guardian will be FILLED to the teeth with content and generation defining graphics/gameplay and physics.
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Jawknee
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 1:26:19 PM
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Evil tele
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 10:57:43 AM
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-Nintendo will realize at some point that they have to catch up with online & high def gaming - once the sales of the original wii keep plummeting, they'll have to introduce a new system ...soon
- xbox is a good system, but it's tech and processing power is slowly falling behind, it's not a tru HD machine without blu ray
- sony is still improving, and can continue to improve with the ps3
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Evil tele
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:02:56 AM
developers should stop focusing on making games for 'the next gen', when they haven't even come close to pushing the limits of this gen
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IronFace2
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:37:44 PM
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Hezzron
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:06:03 AM
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I'm also sure Capcom can't wait for this current gen to end. They can't figure it out.
This just sounds like they're sticking their head in the sand hoping it all goes away.
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:09:06 AM
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Hezzron
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:36:33 AM
RE5 and SF4 have kept them afloat...and they had to release those games twice each!
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main_event05
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:05:01 PM
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:06:32 AM
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This time though the PS3 can drive 1080p video (the best standard TV resolution for the foreseeable future) and games as well as managing 3D movies and games. So even if 3D is a roaring success, the PS3 is poised to be a part of the genesis of the 3D market. BluRay replaced DVD, and PS3 has that too. With a built in, user replaceable hard disc the PS3 is a complete solution. The incoming PS Move simply extends PS3 in yet another way.
I can see reasons for the 360 to update. The trouble there is that the network infrastructure in the US and other western nations is not sufficient to support downloading or streaming games that would otherwise fill a BluRay disc. So the successor to the 360 would have to include an optical drive that was capable of that, in other words - BluRay. Microsoft may also want to refresh in order to boost their console's graphics capability for 1080p games and 3D.
Nintendo obviously needs to do a refresh, but if all they do is an HD version of the Wii, they won't be giving people much of a reason to upgrade.
I think that the next driver for an update will be the whole net delivered content concept. However until the infrastructure to handle that is ubiquitous, I don't see console manufacturers committing to it. Because the infrastructure lags so badly there may be room for one more generation of consoles to bridge the physical/digital delivery gap.
Now there lies the interesting bit. The PS3 already bridges that gap and services all the other potential technological drivers for a new generation of console. If MS were to launch a new console, it would simply be catching up to the PS3 in terms of technology. Gamers don't care about USB 3.0 ports or what version of wireless or HDMI is in the box, so long as it plays games in HD (possibly even 3D) and online. A new system would have a hard time differentiating itself from the PS3 in terms of it's capability because the PS3 already does everything.
So, perhaps MS and Nintendo will bring new consoles, MS can go fully HD and even 3D, and Nintendo can finally catch up with the 21st century and go HD. But Sony is already there.
Here's a question. What could Microsoft or Nintendo offer in a new console that was a significant new feature that the PS3 doesn't already have? That is a very short list, and from that point of view, even if MS and Nintendo being new consoles, Sony doesn't really have to do anything. I suppose that they could (for example) crank up the MHz of the GPU and CPU to make 1080p games easier for developers. PlayStation 3z anyone?
Let's pretend that Sony did do that. Would it really hurt existing PS3 owners? I don't think so. All that is required is that all games created for the newer system also include a 720p render mode for the original PS3 models. Other than that, it's business as usual.
I believe that even if MS and Nintendo do a hardware refresh in 2012, Sony could get away with a new slimmer model with faster clocks and a go-faster stripe. There really isn't a reason for Sony to produce a new system yet.
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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:13:44 AM
The PS3 is an amazing machine, but Sony's hand might be forced a bit depending on what the competition does. As you mentioned, there are a few things they can do to spruce up the machine, and probably a few things that we haven't pondered. And perhaps we will be looking at a huge harddrive to accomidate all these games that will be available to us via the PSN. More and more PS2 games will be making there way there after all.
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:18:19 AM
BTW, I don't think that the next Xbox will be called the 720, it makes it sound too much like it's only capable of 720p.
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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:23:51 AM
The question you ask...Sony will have to answer, because if the scenario that I laid out comes to fruition, and M$ and Nintendo are enjoying their new system's successes and Sony's machine is floundering in new sales?
Logic dictates that you are correct, the PS3 does it all, but often times sales is the driving factor to decisions that are made at a corporate level. If consumers believe what you say, and continue to buy the PS3, and ignore the new shiny consoles on the market, then we won't see a PS4 to compete with the XBox1080 or the WiiHD.
This is all of course speculation, but it seems highly likely to me.
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:27:58 AM
In all seriousness, other than the need to catch up which MS and Nintendo may feel, what is the driving force behind an update in 2012?
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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:42:18 AM
If the PS3 can't be improved upon as it now seems you are advocating, then Sony will become irrelivant.
Perhap I am not being clear, let us say M$ and Nintendo make a system that exactly matches what the PS3 does, and because they are the new thing, and outsell the PS3 because the PS3 is now considered "old", are you saying Sony will not come out with a new console?
The Wii and 360 still both sell well, but how can that be since the PS3 is superior? And both those consoles can be improved upon. The Wii especially with both graphics and online play.
//Edit, would love to continue, but duty calls, got to go work now.
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SvenMD
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:51:33 AM
For the most part, general consumers are not educated, and they don't buy systems based on which one is "better". We saw from this last cycle of systems that the machine that comes out first has an advantage. People will always buy something NEW over something that's OLD...even if the old is actually better. MS messed up this gen, they came out too quickly with an inferior product....but it didn't matter...people bought it anyway because it was the "new xbox" - and that's all that mattered.
Sony did the right thing for the advancement of the field and put out a vastly superior product. But they aren't selling to just educated techies....they're also selling to 14 year old kids who yell at their mothers until they buy them the new xbox that their friends have or else they won't be cool at school. Then when the PS3 came out, it didn't matter, because their moms aren't going to buy them 2 consoles when they already bought the 360.
So MS needs to put out a new machine...but they need to do it right. And I do believe that Sony is going to be in a bad spot if they do because the PS3 could handle another 4 years if used properly. But for the sake of money, MS wont let that happen.
I'm sorry, but I don't think Sony needs to fear a WiiHD.
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:52:47 AM
As I said in my original post, if Sony does feel the need to bring a 'new' system in the short term, there is nothing to stop them from bringing a slimmer PS3Z with a boost in GPU and CPU clock speed, which would be sufficient to produce all games at 1080p, and yet be 100% backwards compatible with the original PS3.
Another strategy would be to make a new PS3 with two CellBE processors instead of 1. Neither of these approaches require an entirely new console. But the point I am making is that other than playing catch up with Sony, MS and Nintendo cannot offer any significant new feature that the PS3 has not already got, or that cannot be added through firmware. At least, I can't think of any new feature that would fit that scenario.
@Sven, as I said in the original post. Even if MS did drop a new console to catch up, there are no significant new features they can add. Sony could actually launch an upgraded PS3 with a faster GPU/CPU clock that would enable them to sell a 'new' model too, with increased capability. However it would sacrifice none of the previous ground that the PS3 had gained and cost next to nothing to develop allowing Sony to crow about their new console as well.
Not to mention that like the Wii, this time around, Sony would have a console capable of everything that the competition can do, but for a lower price. The Wii traded on it's cost advantage more than anything else this generation.
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godsman
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:58:17 AM
I think PS2 had 7 million sales last year. If Sony continues to bring exclusive games there, I'm sure the sales can easily double. So a 10-year old console can still easily sell 14 million with publisher support. PS2 achieved 140+ million because it had legs to stay. PS3 definitely does have the life. I don't think PS3 sales will saturate like in GC and original Xbox. They couldn't even get 7 million on a good year.
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SvenMD
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:04:15 PM
I'm simply talking about this from a mass marketing aspect...newer is better...because I guarantee you not all 70+ million console owners would be able to tell you what type of processor is in their console.
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:11:23 PM
That's exactly my point. mass market buyers don't care about the actual specs, they want to know what games it has, does it do HD? and what is it's price? Mass market buyers are price sensitive. I'm not talking about hardcore Xboxers here, I'm talking about the other 100+ million console owners/gamers who don't rush out and buy a box because it plays Halo.
It's like DVD players. DVD players got cheaper and cheaper. Manufacturers tried to use additional features (like progressive scan) to justify higher prices, but consumers were price sensitive and didn't care about that new feature. In their mind a DVD player is a DVD player, what's the price? Sure some consumers wanted progressive scan specifically and made a choice based on that.
But if we look forward and PS3 is joined by some kind of WiiHD and Xbox360v2, they are all going to be roughly equivalent in terms of features and capabilities, but the PS3 will be cheaper, more well known, and have a great library of games already.
Perhaps I am giving consumers too much credit, but I do think that consumers will need a reason to upgrade. A reason that goes beyond a new name.
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SvenMD
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:43:13 PM
I've always been happy with my launch PS3...never had to send it back...never had to worry about it failing on me. It was worth every penny....I just don't understand why some people can't grasp that.
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kraygen
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 5:41:35 PM
So in the end people looking for tech for their home regardless of the reason, are going to find that all 3 gives them what they want but the ps3 would be cheaper.
Would xbots run out and buy the new xbox, of course, but I don't think the average person would.
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Wissam
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:13:51 AM
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gumbi
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:24:31 AM
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Another big thing that I think will prolong this generation gap is something that the previous generations didn't have, Firmware Updates! PS3 is getting 3D in an update, Move support in an update, improved bluray capabilities come in firmware updates. These are things that would have otherwise required a successor, or at least a new model. We can get all these improvements via firmware updates, I expect Sony will milk this as long as possible before we see signs of PS4.
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NeoHumpty
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:26:02 AM
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Honestly, I don't see me adopting a new system as fast as I did the ps3. I love it, but there was a huge gap of time where nothing exciting was really happening. And since I traded my ps2 in thinking the new machines were all BC, I missed a lot of games for it. I still hold a bit of a grudge for them removing it after advertising BC like it was standard.
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godsman
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:43:28 AM
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Highlander
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FatherSun
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:35:03 AM
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godsman
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 11:38:19 AM
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I think one reason that PS3 lost so much sales was that the early adopters switched to Xbox because they didn't get PS2 BC. I'm sure Sony is aware of that and will make PS4 BC to PS3. This will lead to a smooth transition to an upgrade, so there's no reason to be selling two consoles. They can discontinue PS3 then. 2012 is still too early. Maybe 2014.
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main_event05
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:08:53 PM
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maxpontiac
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:09:50 PM
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Unless the global economy gets better, people will be eventually spending less on entertainment pieces and more on basic neccessities for living.
Plus, I am 100% happy with the PS3 right now. and I look forward to it's ENTIRE 10 year lifespan.
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GuernicaReborn
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:16:37 PM
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Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:23:18 PM
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Deathb4Dishonor
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:29:11 PM
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eLLeJuss
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:37:41 PM
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cyoung101
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:50:45 PM
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I am really disappointed with the level of innovation this generation of gaming has brought.
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cyoung101
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 12:50:46 PM
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I am really disappointed with the level of innovation this generation of gaming has brought.
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natho86
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 5:02:05 PM
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 1:27:10 PM
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And even though I'm not ready for a new PS4 yet, I look back at the Playstation's prior history, so I the timeframe of 5to6 years is about right in Sony's thinking.
But the great thing is that Sony will still support the PS3 for at least another 5 years after the PS4 comes out, just like they've been doing with the PS2.
And unlike MS who just walked away from it's 1st ex-box, stopped supporting it after ONLY 4 years, & never looked back.
Not sure about the timeframe on the new Wii or 360 Squat, but I foresee them coming out sooner rather than later, just due to the fact that both are overly outdated by today's standards.
And I'm sure that as lazy & immoral as MS is, once again they'll rush their new machine out just to try & 1-up Sony, thereby gimping up their next model up too.
For myself, I wouldn't like to see anybody's new console brought out before 2015.
That way I've got 5 more years worth of time (& more funds) to fully enjoy all the consoles & games I have now, plus for those games still coming out over the next 5 years too.
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Victor321
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 2:00:29 PM
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2013-2015 sure, but not 2012. That's still too early, and in my opinion, 2012 will be the first year when all the systems will be really mature in terms of developing games for it.
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 2:39:01 PM
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Since I consider you our "Tech Guru" here, do you think any of these upcoming next gen consoles(cough*SONY*cough) just might wind up utilizing some of these new fangled dohicky's(dependant on what year the console comes out of course)????
Or is this stuff just way too early for any "next" gen machine, in your opinion???
Low-power Bluetooth spec announced
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49434-low-power-bluetooth-spec-announced
Human Media Lab showcases bendable mobile gaming displays
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49564-human-media-lab-showcases-bendable-mobile-gaming-displays
Intel touts Light Peak as USB successor
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49383-intel-touts-light-peak-as-usb-successor
Team develops walk-on touch-screen for life-size gaming
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49364-team-develops-walk-on-touch-screen-for-life-size-gaming
Quadruple-layer Blu-ray Disc stores massive 128 GB of data
http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-brief/50380-quadruple-layer-blu-ray-disc-stores-massive-128-gb-of-data
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 3:05:19 PM
BTW, I'm not sure if you saw them yet because I posted them a bit later on, but I also left a couple of interesting articles I found too, over in "Possible Health Concerns Associated With 3D Viewing too
http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/7337.html
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Highlander
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 3:36:04 PM
Flexible display? Definitely in a hand held, it would be more damage resistant if it can bend without breaking.
Light Peak uber fast USB? possibly, but USB 3.0 is a nice new standard and plenty quick.
Walk on displays? I think this msy have merit in large venues, but probably not the home, unless it's as a smaller dance mat style display.
128GB Quad layer BluRay? Definitely. I read the other article talking about holographic discs, but in fact I think that multi-layer BluRay is more likely. Here's why. Even if we double the dimensions of a 1080p screen we're only quadrupling the number of pixels. So 2160p (which is nearly film resolution BTW) would only require (at most) 4 times the data space as existing 1080p video. A standard BluRay movie at 1080p can fit on a single player 25GB BLuRay disc.
To do 3D as well requires more room, something like 50% more than a regular movie, by the time video compression is done. That puts a 3D movie in 1080p in the 35GB-40GB range. If you boost the resolution all the way to 2160p in 3D, then I would expect that even with the compression techniques we currently use a full length 3D in 2160p movie could fit on a 128GB quad layer disc.
That holographic disc with it's monstrous capacity is overkill. BluRay is sized for the needs of 1080p. unless 1080p quickly gives way to a higher resolution standard, I don't think we'll need anything bigger than quad layer BluRay for a good long while. Incidentally, that BDXL standard is not physically readable by current BD players.
However, Pioneer and another BluRay consortium member have demonstrated quad layer discs working on players that only received firmware upgrades. So it's not beyond possible that the PS3 may gain the ability to read 100GB BD discs in the future. Either way BDXL and similar mult-layer technology will stretch BluRay more than enough for the next generation of video games and movies. When we finally perfect the art/technology of holographic display and capture, we'll need that 6TB holographic disc...
Thanks for the other links, it's more reading for a slow afternoon at work.
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RadioHeader
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 2:54:35 PM
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 3:01:14 PM
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Sony develops next-gen Blu-ray format for PS4
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/45457-sony-develops-next-gen-blu-ray-format-for-ps4
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StangMan80
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 3:48:18 PM
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I don't think the PS4 needs come out in 2012, I think just a couple of upgrades like BC. Sony has so much going for them so I don't think the PS4 should come out then but if m$ and Nintendo wants to stay in the game they will need a new console.
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main_event05
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 7:06:13 PM
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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 4:27:48 PM
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xbox however, might release one in two years, as will Nintendo, probably.
As for me, I can wait for a couple more years (4-5), as long as they keep making more awesome exclusives for the PS3 that is (Demon's Souls Rules!!!)
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kraygen
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 5:46:42 PM
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All over the world ppl are complaining about the economy and so ppl are just wanting to hang onto their machines as long as they can. There are a lot fewer ppl today that can just run out and buy a new console than there was 5 years ago.
It's not really going to matter to me either way, I have my MGS4 ps3 bundle going strong and there are so many games I've yet to play, I don't see me getting a new system for a long time.
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CharlesD
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 7:55:00 PM
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Also, we should really give the 3D and Move and all the new content some more time to develop before the PS4 comes flying out of the gates. It seems like two years is far too early but maybe in two years I'll have changed my mind.
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Jonesy555
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 8:00:14 PM
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As for Sony and Microsoft, it seems as if every year, each companies systems get better. I wouldn't mind seeing both of these consoles lasting til 2015/2016 before a new console from either company is released. I know...wishful thinking.
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bigrailer19
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 8:34:43 PM
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M$ just released there new 360, and the Sony claims they are finally turning profits on the PS3. 2 years is too short a time to just pack it all up and come with something new. Yeah it may be on par with the last generation but all things considered its still to soon.
I personally don't think this generations is even close to being tapped out. And honestly 2 years from now I still dont think the technology will be there to make a significantly different console. Too early bottom line.
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RebelJD
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 @ 4:41:01 AM
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___________
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 @ 5:43:11 AM
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todays consoles are still yet to hit their stride, theres plenty left to be squeezed out of them.
not to mention 3D functionality.
why would sony push 3D so hard if they were working on a new console to release in 2 years time?
why not leave it for a next gen feature?
same thing for the motion controllers.
if there were new consoles coming out in 2 years time, sony and M$ would not be releasing kinect and move now.
because 1 it will take at least 2 years for the controls to become standard and hit their stride.
and 2 same as 3D why not leave it as a next console feature?
if we were seeing new games, but no 3D and no motion controls than ok i could understand new consoles releasing.
but there are so why develop these things now, and than have to reshuffle them for the new consoles?
thats assuming they wont work off the bat, which i doubt because we all know sony does not like carrying BC between consoles.
than theres the price problem for both manufactures and consumers.
were in a recession so both sony, M$, and consumers are not exactly swimming in money now.
most people can not afford a new console now, and sony and M$ sure can not afford to release a new one and sales become slow.
they would be stupid to release new consoles within the next 2 years because i really cant see things improving that much in such a short time span.
sony have lost a sh*t load of money on the ps3, there not going to release a new console till they make a large portion of it back!
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Highlander
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 @ 9:36:44 AM
Only Nintendo has avoided the debt pit this generation.
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___________
Thursday, July 01, 2010 @ 8:41:07 AM
while thats pocket money for both companies, there stock holders are not going to be happy.
the only reason ninty survived is relying off the nostalgia train.
sony and M$ have underestimated how powerful it is.
id be interesting to see how well a halo trilogy would sell, bit that against maybe a R&C trilogy or something.
i really hope sony do make it a constant habit of remaking ps2 titles maybe even ps1 titles in HD.
not just one or 2, but heaps of them.
they would sell better than most ps3 games!
i read a article today that said nintys CEO makes on average 20M a year.
not bad, not bad at all!
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Zorigo
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 @ 7:59:22 AM
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Hell no. i haven't got money for another console ANY time soon.
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dveisalive
Thursday, July 01, 2010 @ 6:31:24 PM
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telly
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Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 10:37:58 AM
All of the companies have talked about this cycle lasting longer than previous ones, and I think they're right. And I don't feel the need to jump to a bunch of new consoles yet, either. Not six months go by without a new game coming out who's graphics, sound and gameplay make my jaw drop. What's the rush to move on from what's been a stellar generation of systems?