Are PlayStation Fans Spoiled?
See Full ImageAs far as I was concerned, one of the biggest selling points of the PlayStation 3 was it's backwards compatibility that would allow me to play almost any game I have in my PS1 and PS2 collection. This meant that early on, when the PS3 had little in the way of software, I could still choose from over 100 titles in my current collection, and still continue to play new PS2 games on my PS3. In other words, I'd have no reason to hold on to the PS2 once I upgraded.
However, as we all know, backwards compatibility for PS2 titles was one of the first features to be dropped from Sony's new machine, primarily in the interest of lowering production costs. Now, people complained, but I think they probably complained more about the $600 price tag the system sported at launch in late 2006. Besides, I started to notice that playback wasn't entirely perfect for some of my PS1 and PS2 games, and I actually started to miss my PS2 for older classics in my collection. So I got a silver PS2 Slim, which I've been using ever since. However, since it has become clear that Sony intends to release PS2 classics on the PSN alongside the existing PS1 classics, I've noticed a lot of negative feedback from supposed long-time PlayStation fans.
I understand the question, "why should I have to buy my PS2 games again?" I really do. But I think Sony's been so good to all of us over the years that we've gotten a mite spoiled... What other game console do you know of that's backwards compatible? The PS2 was entirely backwards compatible concerning PS1 games throughout its life so perhaps we all expected the same treatment this generation, but really, who else has ever given you true b/c? The Xbox 360 always had limited b/c due to its software emulation - I couldn't get most of my Xbox games to ever work well, even with the patches - and I'm not exactly seeing all the old Mario and Zelda titles readily available on the Wii. In fact, Nintendo, a pioneer of the industry, has only once delivered b/c, and that's with the Wii, and only goes as far back as the GC, so no Link to the Past and I bet PlayStation fans may want to be able to play Metal Gear Solid on the PS4. I suppose because the PS2 spoiled us we expect things to always remain the same, and I certainly can understand that.
The bottom line is that if you have old games for any other video game system (not counting PC), you need the old console for which it was originally intended. Period. And with the exception of the PS2 and the PS3 for a very short span of time, this hasn't changed. Personally, I just think it's amazing the PS3 even plays PS1 games. True, I need a PS2 hooked up so I can play PS2 games but what else is new? I always need to have my old consoles to play my old games! To denounce Sony for reissuing PS2 games on the Network - which does indeed cost them a little something and oh by the way, they're digital downloads - seems a little like a petulant, spoiled kid freaking out because one day, the teacher didn't give him a lollipop at the start of school. Nobody else ever got that lollipop but the spoiled kid ignored that and threw a tantrum because he was forced to take a step "back" to normalcy.
Tags: ps3, ps2, b/c, backwards compatibility
7/4/2010 9:15:12 PM Ben Dutka
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DIsmael85
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:00:16 PM
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Highlander
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:23:00 PM
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AcHiLLiA
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 11:28:23 PM
I have the later 80gb model. And is a 60gb refurb a good choice? I saw some Ebay with a 90 day warranty.
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johnld
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 11:39:46 PM
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CrazyIrishBoy
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:45:05 PM
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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:05:05 PM
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I do agree with Ben though, Sony pretty much invented the idea of backward compatibility, and since then we've all kind of felt like it was a right.
I have a ps3 that plays ps2 games, but i still have a ps2 sitting next to it. The ps2 was one of the greatest consoles to ever exist (if not the greatest) so i want to hold on to mine as long as possible.
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Alienange
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:12:34 PM
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Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:17:05 PM
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Highlander
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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:31:13 PM
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FatherSun
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:44:32 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:39:56 AM
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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:56:36 AM
Also...
"I was going too fast"
Sorry, i had to.
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BikerSaint
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:11:41 PM
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All my Playstation's spoil me!!!!!
And I'm loving every damned minute of it
Yes, even "HAZE" too!!!!!
(I'm just trying to whittle down some of my huge PS3 games backlog, and just finished "Killzone 2").
I'm still playing my PS2, got my old "Dues Ex" spinning out some gameplay on it.
I've also got "Killzone Liberation" playing on one of my PSP's.
And I'm almost ready to pop "Driver" into my original Playstaion console too.
As for my 360, I've I've got 224 original xbox games & have tried to play about 40 out of those on my 360, and not one of them would play(kept getting MS's famous non-B/C message).
And since I had spent so much valuable gaming time just to check those 40 out, I'm not even going to see if any of the other game in my collection will work on the 360, so screw it cause I still got my old xbox with the 2nd "Dues Ex" in the series in that console too.
BTW, I don't have a wii as of yet, but I swear I thought I read an early article somewhere, stating the Wii was B/C, with Gamecube's games.
Although I don't know how those lil GB discs wouldn't wind up lost somewhere in the belly of the beast, LOL
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johnld
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 11:42:19 PM
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Alienange
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:14:45 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:18:09 PM
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johnld
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 11:44:44 PM
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BikerSaint
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:17:21 PM
You're right about Haze.
I had heard so much negative stuff about Haze, I was hesitant to pop it on & play it last week, but I finally said "Aww, what the hell", & I'm glad I did, because even though there were a few glitches(my cannon buggy floating in air after getting hit, & your team mates constantly getting in the way of your crosshairs while shooting enemies), it was still a decent game & I loved the story's concept about Nectar & switching sides.
It's a shame Free Radical is no more cause I'd really like to see how the cliffhanger at the end would've gotten resolves further in the game's franchise.
Hopefully, maybe another good developer could pick up the right's & push Haze forward.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:20:54 PM
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FatherSun
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johnld
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:39:08 AM
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Snaaaake
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:21:30 PM
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I buy a PS3 to play PS3 games, not for PS2 games, and I also have my PS2 for that purpose.
What's the point of complaining about no BC?
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Underdog15
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:34:38 PM
I currently am playing through PS1's Dragon Warrior 7 on my B/C 60GB PS3.
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FatherSun
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:31:37 PM
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I still own all three but hardly use the older consoles anyway. I bought a PS3 for the power and innovation that the machine was created for. When I get nostalgic I fire up the veterans if I have to.
I do see both points of view though. A consumer wants as much value from a product as possible. BC will provide quite a library for players to chose from. On the other hand SONY is running a business. Removing the Emotion Engine was a business choice that we all have to live with. Maybe someday when a viable emulation solution its created we can all be happy.
A man can dream can't he?
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LividFiction
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 6:27:56 PM
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Superman915
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:35:35 PM
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Scarecrow
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:38:06 PM
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And by the way, this is a lesson to those who refused to get the ps3 early on. All of us who stood loyal to Sony in its first 2 years are enjoying our 60GB ps3s just fine 8)
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Those whining 'bout being able to buy ps2 games on their ps3s should be thankful. You'll never get such quality on the 360, the original xbox had a mediocre list of exclusives.
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I love using the ps1/ps2 since I can properly hook them up to a Standard TV. HDTVs can make those games look so-so. Those games were meant for lower resolutions.
PS: I've never sold any of my game consoles. Gamestop will always buy it for like $50 anyway, why throw away your console like that?
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FatherSun
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 10:53:40 PM
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AcHiLLiA
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gangan19
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 3:45:13 PM
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Bugzbunny109
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 11:12:04 PM
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I don't understand why people are complaining. Most of ps3 owners had and most likely still have a ps2. If they want to play their ps2 games, why don't they just use their ps2? BC is a convenient feature, but is also an expensive feature. It is not imperative to have it; and if Sony removes it to save money and reduce the cost of the Ps3, then there is no problem in that.
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johnld
Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 11:47:39 PM
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all this whining about bc taken out just gets irritating. the fact is, with the ps3s software lineup, you will barely even use that ps3 function. aside from the occasional playing of marvel vs capcom 2 when people are over (thats the only way to play fighting games because online screws it up) i dont really use my ps2 backward compatibility. if i wanted to do that, i still have my ps2 anyway. if you want to play ps2 game, get a damn ps2 then.
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shadowscorpio
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:40:05 AM
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dork02840
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:01:25 AM
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maxpontiac
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:28:40 AM
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And yes, PS3 fans are spoiled. I believe our "spoiling" comes from education. The PS3 is by far the most complete console on the market. The future looks bright as well with PSN Plus, Move, and 3D gaming.
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Kai200X
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:48:08 AM
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StangMan80
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:50:38 AM
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Do not hold out on purshasing PS3 just because it can't play PS2 games!
You are missing out big time.
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Temjin001
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 12:58:22 AM
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I just hope that someday Sony re-releases PS2 software emulation for the PS3 users who still have the disc based media. Or at least provide disc-based support for the games that they will eventually release on PSN. That seems fair enough.
I'm still a bit sore about this topic. Sony marketed the PS3 with B/C from the start. It was part of the PS3's DNA. I understand them having to strip out the extra PS2 chip to reduce costs. I'm sure like most of us posting here, no one wanted Sony to tank and die like most consoles do when they get off to a slow start. Removing B/C entirely though, I thought that was pretty upsetting. Was the already made software emulator really costing them that much money?
Yes, emulation isn't perfect, but I'd rather have that, then having to go re-buy a PS2 because Sony decided for me that I didn't really want to play PS2 games on my PS3 after all.
But everything was okay, I had a PS3 launch model, right?
Yes, until it overheated from dust bunnies being clogged up inside it up the wazzu. Seriously, when it died I was desperate to get Uncharted 2 out from inside of the hardware. It was a rental (worth owning of course), I didn't want to pay a $150 for a repair, and also have a fairly old HDD. It was time for one of them nice PS3 slims... Still very nice indeed. But I got in under the hood of this unit (not easy to do). All the way into the deep recesses of the circuitry, passed the neural net-processor used in T2, into where the Cell silicon lay nestled. On the board a crap load of dust bunnies laid caked on the circuitry, clogging airflow and breathing room. Dust will trap heat and wear down circuitry.
Well, Temjin you shouldn't have played your PS3 so much and did a little cleaning every so often.
But I did, and it was pretty routine for me to wipe it down and even use a vacuum suction hose on the vents. From it's outward appearance it looked great. though, those loud fans on the inside, grew louder and I knew things weren't well beneath that attractive glossy black shell.
... Okay, enough with my PS3's life story dramatizations. So consoles just aren't built like they used to be and that bothers me. So there. And I want PS2 games available for PSN.
As for B/C support in consoles.
Sony in the past has done well for B/C. I was pretty disappointed that SOny totally removed PS2 support altogether from PS3. It was a selling feature to me.
A side note about B/C.
The Wii has B/C support complete with 4 controller ports and memory card from the backside. Granted, the Wii's hardware was augmented GC hardware, but none-the-less, most any of a person's Nintendo games since 2001 will work on the Wii you own today. Can't complain about that.
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Nutoma
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 3:58:57 AM
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Highlander
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:37:31 AM
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Temjin001
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 8:40:57 PM
Though, I believe I read a headline not to long ago about a Cell based emulation method that was patented by Sony for PS2 games. Perhaps if this PS2/PSN stuff is true we'll see how all of it works, maybe even with some augmentation.
I'm sure enhancing the image filtering quality is possible.
Heck, the GoW collection took some of the best looking PS2 games and raised the res, added anti- aliasing, and increased the FPS.
Similar stuff has been done with MS's console.
While 360's B/C support is sketchy, sometimes favorably, and other times not so great to un-playable. The supported B/C Xbox games run with 4x MSAA, effectively cleaning up those un-sitely jaggies.. I also think the original Halo has a FPS boost to 60fps!
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Highlander
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:07:25 PM
However, that is still a tall order. If it had been possible to emulate the hardware in software, then a single emulator would work for all games. But with dynamic recompilation although it's the same basic emulator, a game might require specific code to be bundled with it to provide the routines needed to emulate the hardware used by that game.
This is similar to the approach that Microsoft used with their attempt at backwards compatibility. The problem they faced was that the GPU in the original Xbox was not theirs, and to fully emulate it in software would have cost them a royalty check every bit as expensive as the one they wrote for the hardware. So they decided to use dynamic recompilation to essentially reverse engineer the functions used and map them to functions or routines on the new GPU. We all know how well that went...
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Robochic
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 1:19:33 AM
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I see it that Sony heard the consumers complaints about price and since the chip for B/C was really expensive to produce and put into the consoles they removed it so others could enjoy the PS3, so how I see it they gave more people old and new a better deal.
A PS2 anywase at least here in Canada 50 bucks and to be honest I have a B/C launched 20gig and yes it plays all my Ps2 games but sometimes they still look better on my PS2 and work better on the PS2
I personally think Sony has been very good to us the consumers and will continue to be good to the consumers and I personally don't feel spoiled but listened to, no other company does that out of the 3 consoles.
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shadowscorpio
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:46:54 AM
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kraygen
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 1:39:16 AM
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So in the last 2 years I've often passed on $60 ps3 games because it's much more affordable to buy a $20 ps2 game I've never played and wait for the ps3 games to drop in price.
This method has done me a world of good, I have saved a lot of money, and since I don't have a lot, it's been great. I am really glad I was able to get b/c for that reason.
As for ps2 games on psn, I'd love it, some ps2 games I don't mind not having the physical media for, others tho, I look forward to those HD collections. It will just give me even more options to choose from. Ps1 games on psn have been very very cheap, so I would only guess that ps2 games would be inexpensive as well, so I welcome it.
I haven't heard much whining, but about all of this, but if people have been, I can only say this. The b/c option was available to everyone, if you chose to pass it up, that is your own fault. It's not like they didn't tell everyone the slims weren't going to be.
I'm glad I got what I did, and if someone wants b/c, you can always hop on amazon and pay the extra money to get one of the fatties.
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Lawless SXE
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:01:00 AM
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I think I get attached to things too easily. Oh well, we all have our flaws, have we not?
Peace.
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bigrailer19
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:53:25 AM
But im glad to hear that no matter what, thats the console you want. I went and got an 80gb after mine dies, only because I bought a 2 year warranty with it from Circuit City, and it died right before the 2 years. Well Circuit City was going out of business at this exact time, so instead of sending me a refurb, they sent me a gift card of my purchasing price. So i took my 600 bucks bought an 80gb for $399 from circuit city, and got an extra $200 for games!
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___________
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:29:07 AM
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there got allot of catching up to do in the customer service, online and advertising market.
i hope sony bring other things to playstation plus instead of just free games or discounts.
will be interesting to see how they evolve it and see how its changed in say a years time.
hopefully it wont be like home!
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bigrailer19
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:58:29 AM
There customer service has always been fantastic for me! I couldn't ask for more! They've helped me out with so much stuff!
There online stuff, if your speaking of the PS store is absolutely fantastic and offers more than we could ask for. Its grown so much in just the past couple years its actually amazing. Now they just released plus, and well again IT OFFERS EVEN MORE!
And there advertising was slow, but its not at all now. There "It only does everything" campaign is such a hit, that Kevin Butler gets a standing ovation at E3. I mean come one, get real here! Everybody talks about those commercials, EVERYONE! Sony is doing everything right, right now!
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bigrailer19
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:58:29 AM
There customer service has always been fantastic for me! I couldn't ask for more! They've helped me out with so much stuff!
There online stuff, if your speaking of the PS store is absolutely fantastic and offers more than we could ask for. Its grown so much in just the past couple years its actually amazing. Now they just released plus, and well again IT OFFERS EVEN MORE!
And there advertising was slow, but its not at all now. There "It only does everything" campaign is suck a hit, that Kevin Butler gets a standing ovation at E3. I mean come one, get real here! Everybody talks about those commercials, EVERYONE! Sony is doing everything right, right now!
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FatherSun
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 7:52:42 AM
I do hope that as a PLUS member other benefits are introduced. I wish the protection program was one of them.
HOME is making money according to Sony but It can be so much more. If they can figure a way to make the experience more exciting it would be a monster hit.
@bigrailer, same thing with Best Buy. 1 of my 60s died and protection plan got me a 250 slim, another 2 year plan and $175.
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___________
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:11:36 AM
1st time i rang them my ps3 stopped reading blu ray disks, so i sent it in and they guy told me you will have it back in a MAXIMUM of 3 weeks.
so i waited a month than rang them and they said i dunno where your console is, it has not been sent out yet.
i rang them every day after that, same response.
NINE WEEKS LATER!!!!!!!! i get a card from AU post.
sony did not email me or anything, i go down to see what its for and i get this big cardboard box.
i came home, opened it and it was my ps3 by itself no bubble wrap or anything to protect it!
now it does not take a rocket scientist to know YOU NEVER! EVER!! EVER!!!!!!!!!!! SEND ELECTRONICS BY POST WITHOUT BUBBLE WRAP!!!!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!!
i was so pissed off with that i rang them, asked what was wrong with it in the first place, they would not tell me so i suggested to him next time when there sending consoles back they should use bubble wrap to protect the thing during freight.
and what did he do?
he hang up!
great customer support!
i put up with a 9 week wait, 5 weeks longer than they said, they send my console back with no protection what so ever and thats how they treat me?
thats how they say thank you for buying our product and thank you for putting up with us?
they should get the Nobel prize!!!!!!!
another time i rang them up to find out why i could not get into a single game of KZ2, every game i tried i kept getting the 5021 error.
so i rang told them what was happening and the guy says why are you telling me i did not make the game ring the developers.
i said since when do developers give out their phone numbers?
so he hangs up on me!
yeah, great customer support there!!!!!!!
another time i rang them up to find out why i kept on getting a 800123AD error message and booted out of PSN every 10 minutes.
he said its because of some incompatibility between my router and modem, i had to connect my ps3 to my modem and add it to the firewall.
well theres 2 problems with that.
1 no modem allows a direct connection from it, you have to install the modem software on the device first and the ps3 does not allow that.
2 no modem has a firewall thats what you need a router for!
honestly when i ring sony customer support i feel like im talking to a preschooler!
how can you suggest such silly things!
i was telling my 8 year old nephew about that a while ago and even he laughed!
how can a 8 year old have a higher knowledge than a sony tech representative?
as for PSN, it is a long, long, LONG! way away from XBLA.
only because M$ are willing to spend money on bringing titles over from other platforms.
wheres earthworm jim on PSN?
wheres doom?
wheres doom 2?
wheres duke nukem Manhattan project?
it has allot of old school classics on there, and it even has new games with the old school style.
like dishwasher, or shadow complex.
2D side scrolling action games, but with 2010 graphics!
now thats what PSN and XBLA games should be like!
PSN will never be as good as XBLA because sony are not willing to through money at it, where M$ are!
advertising in the US is ok, could be better.
but here i dont see any ps3 adds what so ever!
guess how many xbox 360 S adds i have seen just today?
id say around the 40 mark!
honestly every single add break, theres a M$ add in there!
the last ps3 add i saw was back in January for MAG!
no wonder M$ have sold 1.2M more consoles here than sony!
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Highlander
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:40:16 AM
If you are in home on a regular basis you see just how much 'stuff' people buy for their avatars. Home is making money for sure. The mall area is one of the most frequented in Home. People like to collect stuff, even virtual stuff. My wife uses Home like a virtual fashion doll. She has spent goodness knows how much on clothes and shoes for her avatar, and she enjoys it greatly. I know she's not alone, and I know I have spent a tidy sum on my own avatar and personal spaces.
Home makes money.
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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:21:40 AM
And as for the ads. The only ones I see are for the Wii. I always hear about 360s being given away with laptops and TVs and such as. Lately I've been seeing ps3 ads related to the soccer, but that's all. Sony Australia SUCKS, bigtime!
That is all.
Peace.
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___________
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:10:38 AM
i barley ever see wii adds, the only wii adds i see are mario adds.
like mario galaxy 2 released last week and i have seen say 6 adds for it.
the new 360 though which also released the same day as mario galaxy 2 july 1st i have seen like 20. A DAY!
apparently sony are releasing 2 LEs for GT5 i really hope they release both here!
sony normally dont release LEs here, i was so pissed off when i found out the Resistance 2 LE was not releasing here!
i felt like ringing them up, leaping through the phone and ripping their balls off!
than i read a interview between Chris Steed and Ted price, he asked why the R2 LE was not releasing here and he said we wanted to release it but sony would not let us.
WTF sony!?
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SmokeyPSD
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:43:31 AM
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bigrailer19
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 2:48:24 AM
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I'm completely grateful that the PS3 does everything and more than I wanted out of a gaming system growing up. Not only that but it continues to do more. Sony is doing a great job, and I suspect we would have seen many of these features a lot earlier if Sony didn't struggle with the price, early on. Thats a tough hill to climb what Sony went through. But look at where they are at now... Not surprising!
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Mornelithe
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 3:23:09 AM
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Wage SLAVES
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 3:55:11 AM
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I hope they put up Shadow of the Colossus.
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Shuin
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 4:11:33 AM
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ive been waiting for 10 yrs now....
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JackC8
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 6:59:01 AM
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I didn't know there was anything definite concerning PS2 games on the PSN, but that's good news. Sort of. I buy all my PS2 games used from the sellers on Amazon, probably for around 25% - 50% of what they'll be on the PSN. And as we learned from the PS1 games, once they release some of the more popular titles, they're pretty much done.
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FullmetalX10
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 8:47:57 AM
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Alright, maybe that's a bit over exaggerated, but you get my point, it still works perfectly, yay, and I still play Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, even though they look a bit off, since I play em on my Bravia, but I don't mind since they're still awesome classic games and still look good enough for me not to not play them(indeed), which reminds me that I should buy Final Fantasy X again, since I lost my copy, I just can't find it anywhere, probably lent it to someone some time...
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rcrodgers
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:22:26 AM
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TheOldOne
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:42:07 AM
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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:02:18 AM
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xnonsuchx
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 4:28:52 PM
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Lobosabio
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 4:54:00 PM
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I was expecting to play mi collection with re-scaled graphics and beter load times.
like a loyal PS buyer, I felt betrayed, sony.
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DjEezzy
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:01:04 PM
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Highlander
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Sunday, July 04, 2010 @ 9:55:56 PM
I have to admit, that even if I didn't have these two gems, I'd have got a PS3 and probably purchased a slim PS2 along side it.
I think that some in the PlayStation community view backwards compatibility almost as a right. Now, I'm not sure how we think we have rights in this regard, but some do. I think it's acceptable to say that there is an expectation or hope, but not a right.
When the PS4 come along, I hope - for business reasons - that Sony opts for a design that can play PS3 software. the investment in software is so huge now, that backwards compatibility appears to me to be almost mandatory. There is a reason why PCs are generally backwards compatible all the way to DOS, and that reason is that it costs money to re-purchase applications every time the OS or CPU changes.
All that said, when you compare the PlayStation to other home console brands, it does stand out because of this commitment to backwards compatibility. Let's not forget that PSP Minis also play on PS3, just as PS1 classics play on the PSP.
One other thing I have to say is that Nintendo's original DS handheld offered a great deal of backwards compatibility. But since Nintendo uses cartridges, it's hard from generation to generation to maintain compatibility.