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Sucker Punch: No Way We Could've Done InFamous 2 On 360

Most will agree that PlayStation 3 exclusives have continued to set and reset the quality and innovation bar with its top-notch exclusives this generation.

We've heard more than a few developers explain why their particular PS3 exclusive project couldn't be done on any other platform, and this includes Quantic Dream (Heavy Rain) SCEA Santa Monica (God of War III), Polyphony Digital (Gran Turismo 5) and Naughty Dog (Uncharted: Drake's Fortune and Uncharted 2: Among Thieves). Now, Sucker Punch joins the clamor, as noted in a recent NowGamer interview with developer bosses Brian Fleming and Chris Zimmerman. First, Zimmerman admitted they made some "really dumb decisions" with the original inFamous, as the team wasn't entirely checked out on the PS3 hardware. He said that "in technical terms, the biggest thing that we've done is migrate a much larger part of our code to run on the SPUs." This leads him to believe that inFamous 2 couldn't possibly be done on any console but the PS3.

If you look at games like Uncharted 2 that’s a game that you actually can’t do on Xbox no matter how clever you are, there’s just more processing power on the PS3. inFamous 2 is going to be the same way. You’ll look at it and see that there’s no way we could have done this game on 360."

Well, it's certainly going to upset the 360 loyalists but even the most ardent Microsoft supporter would have to admit that the gap in quality is starting to widen. Obviously, this is because developers like Sucker Punch are going deeper and deeper into the PS3's technology and with the 360...well, there probably isn't much more in there. But anyway, keep yourself psyched for inFamous 2 by watching that bad-ass gameplay video.

Related Game(s): inFamous, inFamous 2

Tags: infamous, infamous 2, sucker punch

7/5/2010 8:57:05 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (131 posts)

Hitch
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:22:09 PM
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Well if the first one couldn't, then of course the second one couldn't also silly!

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SubjectiveTruth
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:49:19 AM

The only thing I find my self using my xbox for lately is playing videos on a burnt dvd or memory stick, which the PS3 often wont recognize. I always check if th PS3 will recognize it first because when it does I use it, the video player interface in the xbox is awful.

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SubjectiveTruth
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:49:21 AM

The only thing I find my self using my xbox for lately is playing videos on a burnt dvd or memory stick, which the PS3 often wont recognize. I always check if th PS3 will recognize it first because when it does I use it, the video player interface in the xbox is awful.
EDIT: Sorry I posted this twice and under the wrong person..

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Uhh...
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 1:45:25 PM

Man this site is full of fanboys. I remember reading an article written by this guy saying "In no way are we PS3 fanboys". It doesn't look to be that way. So many articles "It can only be done on PS3" followed with a comment on how the 360 is trailing behind. Who gives a flying crap. These articles shouldn't even be published, and are so stupid and the people commenting on it love to hear how much better their prescious PS3 is much more powerful and then bash the 360 in some way. In no way am I a fanboy of any console, that shit's for little kids.

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packersfan66
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 2:26:28 PM

sigh, while i do think ps3 is way better, the bias shown by some of the writers can be ridiculous too, i agree. But what can you do you're on a playstation blog.

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DazeOfWar
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:52:56 PM
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I started noticing this lately with games & functionality. It's one of the reasons I decided I didn't need my 360 anymore.

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Deleted User
Thursday, July 08, 2010 @ 12:48:41 PM

You don't have a 360 to need

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Superman915
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:56:06 PM
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there's no way a lot of things could be done on the 360.

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Deleted User
Thursday, July 08, 2010 @ 12:49:34 PM

Tell that to Rage and Crysis 2

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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:56:45 PM
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I remember Zimmerman saying the first wasn't possible on the 360 either.

Xbox loyalist will never admit the PS3 has better exclusives. Just a few weeks ago some over at IGN were bashing the PS3 because it didn't have Crackdown 2. And look how that turned out.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:03:59 PM

Crackdown 2 kinda failed didn't it.

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Scarecrow
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:06:49 PM

Great avatar World!

Original Cole for the win!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:09:09 PM

Thanks Scarecrow, this avatar is my non-so-silent protest against Xbot-Cole :)

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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:17:52 PM

It was so bad IGN couldn't even spin how bad it was. They usually give all Xbox exclusives high marks regardless of how bad it is. Imagine if Crack Down 2 was a PS3 exclusive. The Bots and IGN would have given it a much lower score then 7.

@Scarecrow, hey i posed a question for you over in The 3rd Birthday thread from earlier today. Mind helping me out? :)

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Oxvial
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:22:09 PM

Crackdown 2 looks like a N64 game compared with Infamous 1, the only way the 360 can have an awesome game its with a 100 million budget like RDR.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:29:01 PM

and even that game was no bar setter when it came to graphics.

LOL! When i popped it in my wife said it looked like a PC game from 2001. hahaha

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:08:49 PM

IGN's Crackdown 2 spin: (and I quote) "Familiar ground, but still fun."

Jeez.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:13:25 PM

The commenter's never cease to amaze me over there. they go something like this...

"this doesn't prove the PS3 has better exclusives, just look at Halo and Gears..."

That's all they got....?? LOL!

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PilarVIRUS
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:29:39 PM

I just have to say that graphics aren't everything. They aren't. Because developers spend alot of time working on graphics and not focusing on gameplay -- that's what makes a game, a game. Basically, if it wasn't for graphics, both of the systems would be tied. No platform is better, they each have there share number of problems.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:41:51 PM

PS3 exclusives prove you are wrong. We can have graphics and good game play. Sony has proven that time and time again.

Also the PS3 is better then 360. Its a fact, not an opinion.

One may like the 360 better but when you break it down to the nuts and bolts, the PS3 is much better hardware and more can be done with it.

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JDC80
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:56:20 PM

I learned one thing dealing with an Xbot over the internet is that they got a lot of time on their hands. I got into this argument with this dude on the Youtube comment section of the Xbox 360 sucks song.

I said one of the main factors that has helped the PS3 catch up to the 360 is the impressive exclusives that was kicked off by "Heavenly Sword" and "Uncharted: DF" back in the holiday season of 2007.

So the guy decided to write five separate long winded(much as allow on youtube)things to my one comment, so I rattle off some of last year exclusives that's when things got a tad bit crazy on his part. One he said "InFamous" didn't count because "InFamous" "Crackdown" and "Prototype" were the same game.. I mention even MLB the Show is also a highly rated PS3 exclusive he said no one cared about pro BASKETBALL,when I corrected him its baseball he still called it pro basketball.

So the kicker to all this four days worth of going back and forth with this guy was he claimed to be a gaming journalist and he also claimed that ND was working on "Alan Wake" and "Alan Wake" and "Uncharted 2" were working off the same game engine.

Either these folks don't want to give the PS3 credit or they're living in a alternate reality.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:29:53 AM

JDC80: The day that Gears, Forza and Halo can somehow compete with the likes of Uncharted/Uncharted 2, God of War III, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, inFamous/inFamous 2, MLB 10: The Show, Resistance/Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet/LittleBigPlanet 2, etc, is the day hell freezes over solid.

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PilarVIRUS
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:06:29 AM

@Jawknee Actually, no... No platform is better. They're all equal, expect for the Wii.

[Update] Yeah, PlayStation Exclusives prove you right. However, Microsoft has built a network that uses both Third-Party/First-Party content to support its console, i.e. CoD, Red Dead and Gears. It's this model that has built the console and it's online space -- making it stronger. Another example being Crackdown. Though it isn't jaw dropping, Microsoft's going to feed on it to built a stronger online component -- its a game based around cooperative play. (@Ben How many games does SONY have that build on that?) It's just to show you that -- though it may look like they have the upper hand -- when it comes down to it graphics don't matter, it's how much fun you're having. That's why Microsoft has the upper hand in the market right now. Sorry for changing the topic.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:41:58 AM

Not many of those games are worth owning let alone playing. They are all essentially the same game. Point and shoot.

It's not all about online gaming. There are still people who prefer great single player experiences far more then multiplayer. Doesn't matter if MS has the upper hand or not, it doesn't change the fact that the PS3 IS superior hardware and has the exclusive games to prove it, not to mention all the other features is has over the Xbox.

This claim that they are completely equal is a bit laughable. No offense.



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PilarVIRUS
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:02:08 AM

@Jawknee I know, just talking about this puts a :D on my face.

You would think so... However, because of the economic, state people are looking for a bigger bang for there buck and single-player only games aren't cutting it, people want games that they can experience with their friends online; I'm not saying that Mass Effect and Demon Souls aren't great, but after you beat them do you play them as much for mouths after?

As for Hardware, PlayStation wins. But, then again, Xbox also has some amazing looking games. Anyway, they're both great systems so who cares.


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PilarVIRUS
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:12:18 AM

Sorry about the mistakes, it's getting a bit late.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:30:59 AM

Damn in the 90's sp games were never a problem xD .

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PilarVIRUS
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:34:50 AM

Yeah, I remember those days. However, everything, including gaming, is center towards online these days. If they weren't -- this would be a whole another story.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 8:06:07 AM

@Ben, as a videogames professional as I'm sure you consider youself, I think making the statement that the Gears of War franchise can not be compared to the Resistance games and Warhawk is kind of embarrassing.

The Gears franchise is one of the stand out new IPs of this generation, I don't think Warhawk would even get in most gamers top ten PS3 games. It certainly wouldn't get in mine.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:15:48 AM

@PilarVIRUS

I still play my single player games. Quite a bit actually. I've beat Uncharted 1 and 2 more then 5 times, MGS4 9+ times, God of War III more then 5, I'm playing all the Metroid Prime games over again as we speak not to mention the other great single player experiences i have and will go back too. I don't need multiplayer to keep me playing the game as long as the single player is worth playing. Maybe I'm in the minority now but some how i doubt it.

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Highlander
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 1:49:43 AM

@PilarVirus, Sony's first party titles far outnumber those of Microsoft, and third party exclusives on the PS3 are unlike those on the 360, they are typically not supported by slush fund money. But either way you talk of Microsoft building a network of first and third party studios when they have done no such thing.

Even Bungie went their own way in the end. Microsoft's first party line up is tiny, and their third party exclusives exist purely for contractual reasons, not because the third party elected to make the game exclusive. Even so, their 'network' is in reality not a network, it's a rag tag collection of games that appear on the 360 as a result of slush fund money being spent.

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xnonsuchx
Thursday, July 08, 2010 @ 12:45:57 PM

I hadn't really followed the media about CRACKDOWN 2, but just from seeing the TV ads, it looked like an avg-quality title from a few years ago...and you'd assume an ad would be featuring the best-looking scenes from a game. Then I heard the 360 owners at work saying they were going to avoid it even though they loved the first one.

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frylock25
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 9:58:01 PM
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i am lookin forward to playing part 2. i got stuck at the end of my second play through and never beat the end for evil. i think im gonna go finish this game up soon. screw it im playin it right now actually. im glad to hear of this. i dont want this system being held back because of anything.

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kraygen
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 3:15:30 AM

Dude the evil ending is the best.

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Scarecrow
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:05:32 PM
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Gran Turismo 5 can't be done on the 360 either

This is when the ps3 starts to beat down on the 360.

This is going to be an on-going theme the 360's going to face

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:24:09 PM

After Novemember 2nd comes and goes, Forza 3 with it's 8 cars on track, no weather, and no day/night time clock will begin to look second rate.

The simple fact that GT5 doubled FM3 in cars is really all that's needed to prove that.

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Dancemachine55
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 11:53:04 PM

But wait!!!!

Forza 4 allows you to move around your car and look inside and out of over 300 cars using the Kinect camera!!!!!

Really!?!?! Thats the feature!?!?!

Forza 4 is coming out around the same time as GT5, or a few months after. There is no way it will compete with the likes of GT5 in terms of quality.

It will only sell well cos of the large number of Xbots trying to support MS and its cruddy games.

Meanwhile, GT5 has brand power and quality tied to that brand power. Until now, Forza has only served as a fill-in until the final release of GT5. MS has no chance against this giant.

Off topic: will be interesting to see the sales numbers MS will boast of their new slim 360 next month. Shame we can't monitor trade-ins against first-time purchases.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 11:40:11 AM

Ironically enough, GT5 will be doing that before Forza 4. In one of the photo modes, you are allowed to walk around the car and the environment you placed the vehicle in.

Say hello to first person mode in GT5.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:08:02 PM
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Can't believe we have a whole year to wait for inFamous 2, but at least time flies in this industry. And hey there is still time to fix Cole.

360, well let's just face it. It's a last gen system with no room for growth and the games aren't getting any better on it. Even the exclusives are paling in comparison. Actually what it does best are outdated PC games.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:20:09 PM

The console is aging worse then i first thought. MS shot themselves in the foot. I just hope enough gamers can get their damn heads on straight enough to see they invested way too much time and money in a piece of crap that's not worth the plastic its made out of.

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main_event05
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:22:49 PM

These explanations are becoming a bit more common, while it is great news, it think its gonna lead to MS trying to kick off the next-gen prematurely.... again. But then again, look where that got last time. or the last two times i mean.

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Danny007
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:39:04 PM
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I am so glad I bought a PS3.

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Alienange
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:45:16 PM
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If you even whisper the words "run on the SPUs" near a 360 the DVD drive pops open and the thing regurgitates integrated circuits.

Well... at least now it's shiny, black and has wireless internet. All you need now is the Sony guts.

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Temjin001
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:49:16 PM
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I don't want to play devil's advocate here, but I feel the need to speak out against the myth that the 360's abilities have been maxed out.
To respect the opinions of others, I totally agree the PS3 has resources and processing power that the 360 can not match like for like. And I also believe there are more un-tapped idiosyncrasies of PS3's design than of the 360's. This is evident in how relatively, new or uncommon, parallel processing has been in game programming design.

I believe the 360, like most gaming hardware, has many opportunities for developers to learn and grow with over time.

Here are a few observations of games that have improved on the supposed "all out on the table" 360 architecture.
Forza 3 was technically a major leap over Forza 2 (check out my fav tech-gurus at the Digital Foundry to support this).
Bungie is using a newer and "better" engine to power Halo Reach, Including the much needed boost to resolution, and also, a per-pixel motion-blur effect that, at one time, I believed wouldn't have happened on a game outside of PS3 (KZ2).

Gears of War 3, from what I've seen, it's already looking much improved over the already good looking Gears 2.
And Mass Effect 2 also looks considerably improved over the first game.
Splinter Cell Conviction looks considerably better than the previous outing with Double Agent.

These are all examples of games that have improved with the architecture these designers have chosen to harness.


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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:56:18 PM

I dont think the 360 is maxed out yet, but it feels like devs are approaching the peak of the curve. The ps3 feels like its just getting started. The 360 may have another year or two of growth left in it, but the ps3 has many years of progression left in it.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:59:20 PM

I have to disagree. Most of the new 360 exclusives that are coming out and have come out this year are not in HD. Alen Wake, Splinter Cell, Halo STDS and Reach are all sub HD. Splinter Cell: Conviction looked like a last gen game.

That said i think the console has reached its limits. If they have to cut the resolution to make the game work properly(btw they all have screen tearing too) then I'd say the hardware has reached its limit.

Also, Bulletstorm looks like it performs better then Gears 3. I didn't see any improvement from the game play footage over Gears 2. 3 games later and the screen still tears?

Also Forza 3 didn't even sport as many cars as GT PSP. Telling, is it not?

Besides, CliffyB said they maxed the 360 with Gears of War 2 and it still doesn't even look as good as Uncharted Drakes Fortune.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:32:00 AM

You're not wrong but I personally know that many developers realize there isn't much left in the 360. You can continue to advance but what most designers are doing with the 360 doesn't have anything to do with "advancing;" it's more about optimization these days. From the start, the incredibly accessible 360 architecture meant most developers could dive right in.

For the most part, they can continue to make 360 games look better but even with a better-looking Gears and the potential of Halo: Reach, I think it's obvious that things are slowing down.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 3:55:54 AM

I think Rage proves that Gears 2 didn't max out the system

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gangan19
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 4:03:46 AM

but do you think that the consumers care about this, or whats in their faces like the new slim that didnt really make it as good as a paper weight...micro-cock aka microsoft, ruin this generation of gaming.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:03:24 AM

Rage is also on multiple discs and the 360 version is likely to have compressed audio much like most 360 games that have to be stretched over multiple discs.

The Rage developers complained about the Xbox limits as well.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:02:41 PM

Regardless of it being on multiple disks, the game looks really good graphically, that can't be denied

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:06:17 PM

No doubt.

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Rings0fUranus
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 7:54:07 PM

John Carmack, the programming god himself said the PS3 is more powerful. One can deduce from that comment that the PS3 version will look and play better, unless they water it down so the 360 fans don't get sad and feel "left out". They're very sensy, ya know?

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NoSmokingBandit
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 10:54:06 PM
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Whats amazing about all of this is that inFamous 1 looked great. Not amazing, but by all means very good looking for an open-world game. Then to hear Sucker Punch say that inFamous 1 barely scratched the surface.... It really puts everything into perspective. I have this feeling that there is a stupid amount of processing power deep inside the Cell, and its going to pay off big time near the end of this generation.

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Highlander
Monday, July 05, 2010 @ 11:57:49 PM
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Technology wise here is what we are looking at.

Xbox 360 has 3 dual issue PowerPC cores running at 3.2GHz, for a total of 6 threads at a time.

PS3's Cell has (available to games) 1 dual issue PowerPC core and 6 dual issue SPEs (highly optimized RISC processor cores with single Precision Floating point math instructions), all the cores running at 3.2GHz. That gives a total of 14 threads all running at 3.2GHz.

Sure the PowerPC core has more instructions but in terms of the kinds of things a game does, a highly optimized RISC core with floating point math is almost exactly what games need. The Power core in the PS3 and 360 is roughly the same, the designers of the 360CPU actually took most of the design for that core straight from the PowerPC on the Cell. So even if you take the number of cores and threads, the PS3 has a greater than 2:1 performance advantage over the 360 in terms of the CPU. It's actually better than that if you use it right. The whole concept of the PS3 architecture is to let the SPEs do the heavy lifting. Developers in many software houses associated with or owned by Sony are learning to do this, and we are seeing the real benefits now.

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WolfCrimson
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:15:30 AM

...

What he said.

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SolidFantasy
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 7:35:55 AM

thanks Highlander, gotta love the numbers to back up the truth.

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Jian2069
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:43:10 PM

The main thing with the PS3 is that the SPE's do specific things which - like TheHighlander said - make it exactly what games need. I think it was in reference to Uncharted 2 development that one of the devs was saying they continue to put more and more tasks on these cores that seem to be able to take endless amounts of these tasks.

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ps3sownsxbox360
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:28:26 AM
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The PlayStation 3 is a beast.
The 360 only has a couple of years left but not much growth. The PS3 has 5 more years full of growth.
I don't understand 360 fans. How can you buy a 360 over a PS3?

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SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, July 08, 2010 @ 4:32:40 PM

I know. Those of us who have a 360 are so stupid. How could we have bought a 360 when, at the time, the PS3 wasn't out? Or when the PS3 was released, was quite a bit more money than a 360? Stupid 360 owners. I doubt it could've been that, just maybe, there were some games we wanted to play that the 360 had that we couldn't play on anything else at the time. Idiotic, right? What were we thinking, wanting to play games?!?

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Fane1024
Saturday, July 10, 2010 @ 6:18:43 PM

"...over a PS3?"

In other words, if you had the choice.



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GuardianMode
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:40:54 AM
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Its kind of funny. Over on D-Toid they claim Gears2 is better looking the UC2. I kid you not. Nearly every quote stated that the 360 can or surpass the PS3 graphics. SexualChocolate tried to state the exclusives (a longtime PS3 supporter put up a good fight) but there were too many x-bots. I stopped reading when they agreed that Gears and Mass Effect were better then UC2. >.>

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kellett007
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:45:42 AM

what is the link to this article. I would like to see this nonsense firsthand. lol

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sirbob6
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:10:55 AM

I just read Jim's article about inFamous 2. What him and a lot of the commenters are saying is sad. It is so sad it isn't even funny.

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mastiffchild
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 6:07:01 PM

Jim Sterling is the biggest sh1tbag in gaming. Every story he "writes" is there purely to conjure up a little controversy(hence crap like the assassination of AC2 for example 4/10)and for him to massage his all too important ego.

Some of the things he's said have left me amazed by the lack of fact to back it up and by the sheer arrogance of a man with seemingly less than Hitler to be proud of(at least Mein Kampf scans OK). I've been banned from D'toid(God, I'm SOOOOOOO gutted about that)for a long while now because I took the tubby man child apart over a few things so just don't take anything Jim writes seriously as i'm sure he really can't himself and as for anyone dim enough to take the fat oaf seriously? The mind boggles at how someone like that even manages to log on.

On a related note Jim recently had a little article in GR about filns that would make good games. Well, over there I use a different name etc and the week before(1 WEK) GR had asked the question of posters na the same question and Jim just lifted practically EVERY idea his article had from us(FOUR fom my post alone!)and what we'd said! He didn't even mention where he'd got the ideas so we're meant to think, I guess, that it was a massive coincidence. Guy is a tosser.

Also,inFAMOUS2 looks the business and anyone not thinking it's going to be great to play clearly hates games. New Cole sucks almost as badly as our mate JS, mind. God, that man annoys me so prolly best I don't come across him so much these days-he never wrote anything for any reason other than the promotion of the cult of Jim Sterling of which he's ,thankfully, the only member. Then again he's ugly, tubby AND talentless so a little bitterness and delusion is to be expected but don't, whatever you ever do, take anything he says as anything like fact or anything like insight because it won't be.

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GuardianMode
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:56:01 AM
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@Kellet007
Just head on over to D-Toid and look for the article by Jim Sterling on this topic. He has a pick of a goat eating some grass as the cover for it. BTW Mr Sterlings claims are just out there. You have to read it to believe it.

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WolfCrimson
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:31:35 AM

I just visited that crap site. That guy (Jim Sterling) is such an Xbox360 blind fanboy that his even login password must be "Xbox3604lyfe". I can't believe the shit he wrote.

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kellett007
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 3:29:43 AM

I read a lot of the comments and most were made by extremely ignorant people. Crazy that something developed for a system that has over 2 Tflops of processing power would have a hard time running on a system with 1 Tflop of processing power. Not to mention the processor setup is different with the PS3 and its SPU's.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:11:06 AM

Jim is a fool. I stay away from Destructoid because of him. I've never read so much nonsense from anyone besides maybe No Name Cowherd as Highlander would call him.

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Pandacastro
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:51:42 AM
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Doesnt the game rage have ps3 graphics on the 360?? There were talking about it during e3

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sirbob6
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:17:54 AM

I have to say that I was not overly impressed with Rage or Crysis 2 for that matter. They seem sub-par when you compare it side to side with UC2. Plus the demo of Rage had a lot of glitches.

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tumbletunnel
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:21:21 AM
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Hey Ben, at your reply to JDC80 I think you forgot some titles : The Last Guardian, Motorstorm 3 Apocalypse, Ratchet & Clank (still so much underrated). Lets hope Rockstar is going to show us AGENT in Koln this august. Also still not seen anything from Ape Escape 4. Glad to have a PS3.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:33:10 AM
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Yay, another developer stating the bleeding obvious. I'm sorry, but the whole 'our game can't run on the 360' is starting to grow old. Sure it gives me a little glow of pride when I hear it knowing that I made the right decision, but still.

I personally thought that inFamous was a better looking game than GTAIV. Admittedly not a difficult feat, but then, the game featured a lot less space and lot more repeated environmental cues. I hope that this is taken out of inFamous 2, and most all of the buildings feel unique.

As for the 360, yes there is still room for improvement, but as has already been said, it's more optimisation than actually digging more out of it.

Anyway, people's pissing me off, so peace.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:27:55 PM

No one ever said that swallowing the pill of truth wouldn't hurt..

The developers speak the truth you know.

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___________
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:44:12 AM
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not much more in there?
maybe you need to go have a look at some of the videos from E3!
RAGE, crysis 2, BRINK, wardevil, LA Noire show theres still plenty left in the old girl!

the reason why we have not seen many games showing off the 360s capabilities is because of most its games are running off old engines.
most 360 exclusives run of the UE3 engine, or halo for gods sake is running of a xbox engine modified for the 360.
now we have developers like crytek and ID writing new engines and all of a sudden were starting to see it shine!

i dont know whats gotten into you ben lately, youve turned so anti xbox 360!
you write all this flamebait crap than complain when the drowns start flocking in!

back on topic, im really looking forward to infamous 2 the gameplay footage they showed on friday was really impressive!
i was reading the article gameinformer had on it, the game starts off right after infamous and has you beet the beast right off the bat.
your far to weak to beat him now, you barley escape with your life so thats why theres a new city.
you flee there to find new pieces of the sphere to advance your powers, the new city is where the sphere was originally developed.
so that explains how cole gets his new powers, and why the location change.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 3:40:47 AM

One little thing annoys me about your writing. You always get then and than mixed up. Every time.

Anyway. Most of us that are following inFamous 2 already knew the reasoning for the city change. But thanks for the info on the whole new powers bit.

I don't think Ben is anti-360. He has simply begun to see the cracks in its facade. He is slowly realising that it is capable of so little. And I'd hardly call it flamebait considering most of it is true. The games you mention mean nothing, until they are running at that quality on a 360 that is sitting directly in front of the player.

No offence, I just feel funny today... maybe it's 'cause Origin3 is on tomorrow night and you be gettin' beat like a drum.
Peace.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 6:51:38 AM

I hate it when people use Wardevil in any example, it's this gen's Duke Nukem Forever

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___________
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:24:58 AM

how is it realizing its limits when developers are releasing games on it that make uncharted 2 look like a last gen game?
RAGE is absolutely breath taking!
state of origin?
meh, i lost interest in NRL years ago once it turned into a panzies sport!
back in the 90s it was a proper game, now you have a bunch of sissies to worried about getting there hair in a mess!
ohhh, i cant catch that ball i might mess up my hair!

i will rub it in though that the dragons are first on the ladder and kicking serious a$$!
Wayne Bennet is a amazing coach!
and now mark gaznier is back, one of the games best centers no one can stop us!
not even the storm, who LMAO got their points stripped for breaching the salary cap.
i laughed my a$$ off that day, in fact it was the best day of my life!
serves the scum bag cheaters right!!!!!!!!!!

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:06:23 AM

"how is it realizing its limits when developers are releasing games on it that make uncharted 2 look like a last gen game?"

I'm sorry but this is the stupidest thing you have ever said.

This proves my theory you don't even play games, you just come here to rant and troll about things you know nothing about.

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bearbobby
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 11:37:09 AM

Really? Makes Uncharted 2 look like a last gen game? Really? He just said that? lol

While I have no doubt that games will be releasing soon that surpass Uncharted 2 in terms of graphical fidelity, I doubt it will be from a platform other than PS3 or PC.

I'll reserve final judgement till I see a PLAYABLE version of the game running on current consoles, but the video's for Rage do look nice. But we all know how the hype-train likes to spin it.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:32:20 PM

Why are you still here "__________"?

Honestly?

Your contributions to this site are nothing more then one gripe after another.

You make it more then obvious that you are a 360 fan with posts like this one.

Plus, you critized Ben for putting up flame bait when all he did was report what a developer said. This Playstation fan appreciates knowing what PS3 devs are doing for me.

I am sure that there will eventually be a game that is graphically superior to Uncharted 2. But can you imagine how good Uncharted 3 or 4 will look by then? LOL

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Underdog15
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:29:58 PM

I thought Alpha Protocol was the sickness when I saw trailers... The real thing had me thinking I must have been drunk. (actually... I might have been.)

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jdt1981
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 1:27:49 AM

"how is it realizing its limits when developers are releasing games on it that make uncharted 2 look like a last gen game?"

Oh boy.... What a ridiculously absurd statement... You don't by any chance work at gamestop do you? I've seen videos of Rage at e3 2010 and I wasn't very impressed. From what I saw on those videos the environments look rather dull... Another dull, boring wasteland on the 360 because the developers have to reuse textures over and over so they can't have a bunch of varied environments due to DVD limitations... In fact didn't John Carmack complain because they had to cut content from Rage in order to squeeze it on two DVDs?

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 1:47:46 AM

RAGE makes Uncharted 2 seem like a ps2 game. Uh-huh. Another mark on the WTF!? board. I'm sorry but that is so whack.

And you can't call NRL a pansy sport in the face of things like AFL and Gridiron. Damn shame my two favourite teams are going to be the bottom two teams this year.
Peace.

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kraygen
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 4:30:39 AM
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I'm sorry but ppl claiming that 360 is equal to ps3 are only deluding themselves. It has nothing to do with fanboyism or any other such nonsense, it is simply fact.

I have this feeling that the ppl making these claims and using Splinter cell conviction, Halo reach, and Alan Wake for examples of 360 splendor, these are the same ppl who don't see the difference between their SD tv and HD tv's.

I'd suggest you all see an eye doctor and when you get your new glasses, maybe you'll realize that while the 360 isn't necessarily a bad machine, it doesn't have the capacity for growth any more with its last gen tech.

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___________
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:19:04 AM

no its not, its 7.
it was originally 8 but they had troubles with the 8th core for some reason in some chips they had problems with it so they disabled all of them.
and one of them is dedicated to the other os feature, though since thats removed im not sure if that would free it up or if its still locked.

there was a rumor going around that sony removed other OS support so they can free up that SPU for move that way there wont be any hits in upcoming games.


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Highlander
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:32:06 AM

@Anonymous Cowherd

You're both right.

The CellBE is designed to be a 9 (NINE) core processor. 1 PowerPC core and 8 SPE cores. One of the SPEs was disabled on the PS3's CellBE in order to increase the yield of chips to a rate high enough to produce them economically. It's no longer necessary to disable the 8th SPE to increase yield, but since the PS3 will not use it, it still helps with the yield.

However that does in fact mean that the PS3 is an 8 core system, 1 PowerPC core and 7 SPEs.

From a software point of view, games only see the PowerPC core and 6 SPEs. This is because one of the 7 SPEs is reserved by the PS3 system as the secure processing vault (SPV). The SPV is the system's security gate keeper or guardian. So the 8 core processor in the PS3 appears to be a 7 core processor in GameOS mode because the 7th SPE is reserved.

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Masry_XI
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 5:12:07 AM
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Cant see why not.
I mean the graphics are crappy , wont take a lot of space.
But other than the crappy graphics , this could turn up into an enjoyable game.
Dont care if its on the 360 or not , Only care if its good or not.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 6:27:48 AM

its shaping up to be one of the best looking open world games on a console, get your eyes checked or cut the crap and quit yer trolling

Or perhaps you thought this article was about Crackdown 2

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Masry_XI
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:49:22 AM

Shut up , and dont comment on my comment if your that ignorant.
You think this has the best Graphics , you Blind fanboy.
Cut the Crap ? LOL did you learn this from the trailer kiddo LOL

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:04:28 AM

Masry, What do you expect people to say when you say something that that far out there?

Infamous 2 IS looking to be one of the best looking open world games ever and you sit here and say it has crappy graphics?

It does sound a bit trollish.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:20:15 AM

Masry: Stop flaming. And if you think the graphics are "crap," you haven't the slightest clue what you're looking at and really shouldn't be lecturing other people.

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:22:30 AM

@masry

what the hell are u on about ??? the graphics are on par with UC2.( ok thats a stretch) but to call the graphics crap that is just ludicrous. u need to watch the trailer again before u make such a bold statement

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:28:32 AM

TEG we're 2 for 2!

;)

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Masry_XI
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 11:04:01 AM

Ok Guys,
first thing,( i still think the graphics of Infamous are very bad , and cannot even be compared to uncharted graphics)
Secondly you guys are really set on your opinion and do not allow any other opinion than yours.
I even think that sometime you will love a game just cause its an exclusive , and hate another one just cause its on the 360 , i dont have a 360 and i dont have the luxury of buying one , and i think the console wars are stupid , off course some games cannot be made on the 360 (like FF XIII cause of the huge size ) but this one i dont see why not.
You know what Ben maybe you should create an Article about how Ps3 fanboys hate the 360.
In infamous 1 i got stuck inside a window for a minute , a car went through a wall and when i jumped on the bus (the electric one ) i went through it , yet you think this got the best open world graphics (as if Ac2 does not exist !?)
well anyway.
Maybe you would wish to remind yourselves that games are about fun , not about "i think the graphics are great , i will hate anyone who thinks they are not"
just chillout.
And BTW I Do love Infamous.
Later...

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 11:09:43 AM

AC2 looks lilke crap compared to Infamous not to mention it had a butt load of screen tearing and was half the size. There was loading between areas as well. No loading in Infamous.

Look inFamous 1 is not the best looking game out there but the graphics are far from bad. Your entitled to your opinion but when you spout nonsense like "it has crappy graphics, AC2 is better.." you just sound like your trolling.

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Alienange
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 11:48:02 AM

Just because Coles girlfriend's head was a graphical mess doesn't make the whole game's graphics engine lousy.

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:13:02 PM

@ masry

I believe ur new here aren't ya???

If not, I believe u came across some of my previous posts. I have a 360 ( on my third one ATM), I keep on buying it just for GeOW, and some other games here and there.

AC is one of my fav games of all time. the thing that pissed me off about ur comment was that u called the graphics of infamous crap because my good friend they are anything but crap. check alpha protocol to know graphics could be crap. so to call me a fanboy just because I defended infamous( thats dumb man).

Infamous and AC were the only open world games I finished this gen, sure each has it's fair share of problems but none of them is crap..

and if ben is to do an article about how sony fanboys hates 360.

I believe he should do an article about " Rational ppl vs trolls ".

@ jawknee
lol yeah on a roll.lol

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 12:22:58 PM

I never said the graphics in inFamous were fantastic. And I agree the graphics in ACII were superior.

But to say the visuals seen thus far in inFamous 2 are crap is WRONG. This isn't about the 360 or PS3; it's about your poor analysis of graphical presentations.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:35:56 PM

"__________" and "Masry_XI" should go find a site that doesn't have "Playstation" in the title.

They seemed shocked to find Pro-PS3 articles here.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:09:09 PM

@Masry: Awwww did i make you mad? you had to resort to the blind fanboy card? And the kiddo statement? really? people still use this?

Obviously you've never seen my other posts before. I'm one of the few here that actually somewhat defends the 360 when it gets trashed talked too much. Hell, look at my comment above telling people that Rage proves that gears didn't max the system. I actually think some ps3 owners shouldn't overlook multiconsole games just because they aren't exclusive.

You made a comment about the graphics looking like crap for infamous 2, i called you either blind or a troll because that's what you are. Perhaps both if you think it looks like crap. But because i called you out on that bs statement you made I'm the blind fanboy....riiiight

I loved Crackdown 1, but there is no excuse for how CD2 has come out looking. Gameplay is important but the game has quite a few issues and im not just talking graphically either. If you can have good gameplay as well as good graphics, why not have both? looks like Infamous 2 With my time here, on n4g, and other sites, i've only noticed fanboys and loyal trolls say this game looks like crap. Wipe the Bullsh*t out of your eyes troll.

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kraygen
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 3:39:32 PM

You do realize first of all that this article is about Infamous 2, not the first one and secondly that the graphics on infamous 2 look 10 times better than that of infamous.

If you do realize that, then I'm surprised, but from what I've read of your comments, I think you just skimmed the article and didn't understand what it was about.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 5:50:23 PM

This guy should be banned just for the Naruto avatar.

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Masry_XI
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 5:51:46 PM

@Kraygen
Oh god , so now Infamous 2 graphics are 10 times better than 1.
Yea man i totally see it now , infamous 2 Graphics are just amazing , soo Amazing that compared to FF XIII and AC2 it seems like a ps4 game , it totaaly dwarfs MGS4 and Re5 man in terms of Graphics.
it is soo amazing that when you pop in the CD the PS3 will actually speak (yea its a miracle i know) , and you could hear it say in the faintest voice .
"This game has amazing graphics , these are the best graphics ever"
And @aaronisbla
What the hell does Crackdown 2 has to do with anything you troll (go look up what the word mean kid) , Infamous is a great game that is why it should only be compared to other great games , sure if you compared it to Crackdown or alpha protocol the graphics might seem good.
I am comparing it to the best games on the PS3 and in terms of graphics , compared to the best games , infamous graphics are "CraP".

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 5:56:28 PM

-_-

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Rings0fUranus
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 8:09:34 PM

Masry, you are a small child with a small mind. But it's okay, your hormones will level out someday, and these seemingly random fits of rage will pass. You will also notice hair in places that there wasn't hair before. Do not panic, this is completely normal. However, you may have a tumor on your pituitary gland, which could also explain your behavior. You should have your mother contact your family pediatrician, set up an appointment, and get an MRI. You're welcome. :)

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Masry_XI
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:11:44 PM

@TaoMeowMeow
LOL is that what the guys tell you in school you poor thing.
You think i cant offend you.
I can , but i wont , because then i'd be a child like you.
If you werent on the website though i would have kicked your ass kid :)

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Underdog15
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:18:25 PM

>.<

Seriously? The way you make arguments is entirely...

ugh... you know what? Forget it.

I'm going to bed.

>.<

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 12:05:31 AM

@ Masry: MOAR TEARZ PLX! lol you keep saying infamous was crappy looking, but no one is talking about infamous, it's infamous 2 we are talking about. Fact is for an open world game on a console, infamous 2 is one of the best looking ones to come out and thats from the shots being released now. Can you name one thats out now or will be that looks better? Keep in mind open world games often don't looks as good as say, Uncharted 2 since open world games are huge games, but this game is bridging the gap a little bit.

You fail at presenting your argument in a reasonable way, everyone that disagrees with your faulty opinion is a fanboy in your eyes. Your response to Kraygen made no sense whatsoever also.

please just stfu and go back under your bridge now. And while we are at it, drop the "kid" usage, as im 29 and i wouldn't call you one because i wouldn't want to insult actual kids by wasting it on you

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 12:27:50 AM

Masry.... just leave.

Your arguments are childish and full of anger. All you are doing is pushing your own fanboy ideas when this article is about technical performance as stated by Sucker Punch.

Take a deep breath, calm down, and come back when you have something better to add to the comments section. As a 23 year old, I can't stand childish arguments through yelling and sarcasm. Come back when you have something decent to say.

As for the 360 fans out there, don't be surprised to find PS3 fans on a PLAYSTATION WEBSITE!!!! Most of us have 360's or Wii's as well, its just the majority here prefer their PS3 over the other consoles, it's not a war!!!

Back on topic:

Of course Infamous 2 won't work on a 360. PS3 has the extra cell processors that when optimised can produce steller games like Unhcharted 2 or Killzone 3. Or Infamous 2. Or GT5.

360 peaked with Gears 2. Cliff stated that himself. All they are doing is optimising the hardware of the 360 to push better performance, not digging deeper.

I have a 360, and I loved the Halo Reach beta, I love the Gears games, I play Borderlands on 360 with friends cos the online is more streamlined and easier to use when chatting with friends IMO. (I don't wanna start a new argument here, so please don't)

Infamous was graphically on-par with GTA 4, if not inferior. I just found it to be much more fun than GTA IV.

Infamous 2, particularly the early gameplay trailer, really blew me away. Can't believe it was only an early build!!!!! It looks so much better than Infamous 1 already!!!!!!

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jdt1981
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 1:53:06 AM

@Masry

Calm down. Anger leads to the dark side. Just keep repeating "there is no emotion, there is peace". ;)

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Zorigo
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 6:08:53 AM
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because they're the first dev to say that :P

but seriously, its gotta be the processing power as to why ps3 has more decent exclusives.
the only exclusive i want from Xbox is gears of war and possibly forza. PS3 on the other hand, i can list a bunch.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 1:37:14 PM

Forza is not worth the trouble. I put a 360 in my house for that game alone, and needless to say, I was disappointed in it, and got rid of it after one month.

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Rings0fUranus
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 7:57:17 PM

Yeah, Forza is extremely boring and blows big floppy donkey schlong. Bad, extremely aliased graphics, stale, dry presentation...just ugh. I feel your pain Maxpontiac. This game gave me gout. It's that bad. Stick with GT4.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 12:36:20 AM

Yeah, don't bother with Forza.

Now that GT5 has a set release date, Forza is history. Only Xbots would continue playing that rubbish.

I have a friend who loves GT and is a car enthusiast. He hates Forza cos the cars handle nothing like their real life counterparts. And they pissed me off at E3 2009 or 2008 or whenever when they boasted that their 400+ cars in Forza 3 was the largest of any car game this generation. LOL!!!!!!

So.... GT on PSP with 900+ cars doesn't count? Geez, even GT4 on PS2 has nearly double the number of cars as Forza 3. AND GT4 had realistic handling and specs for each car. Forza has very little.

If anything, Forza is just an extended arcade wannabe simulator that failed. Sales represent people waiting patiently for GT5.

Once the GT5 bundle comes out, watch the stock suddenly disappear, and watch 360 trades sky-rocket!!!

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shaydey77
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 6:53:46 AM
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I hate how sometimes devs are so wrong about what they say. Of course this could be done on 360.

It just wouldn't look or play half as well.

Can't wait for Infamous 2. D1P.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 12:38:17 AM

Think Prototype.

360's attempt at Infamous.

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JackC8
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 7:17:30 AM
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The next couple of years should be interesting. The limited storage space of DVD's is already a major problem, but with one console reaching its technical limits and the other with room left to advance, well...developers really do take a lot of pride in their work, and I think some of the better ones may get a little sick of seeing their games outclassed by PS3 exclusives that take advantage of technology that they're simply not allowed to use.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 9:18:58 AM
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360 may or may not be as powerful as the PS3, but it certainly can't handle the PS3 exclusive as DVD is holding it's power back.

It's like having Valentino Rossi riding a scooter when he is one heck of a rider.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 11:31:33 AM
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i brought a 360 3 month for a round 40 bucks by trade in a bunch of games from my ps3 collection. the main reason i brought was to play crackdown 1/2 but since crackdown 2 i will not be buying it since it floped. i will give microsoft one more chance with halo reach if it flops (xbots every were just peaed them self a little on the thight that halo reach will flop) then there is no reason for to own a 360 not even gears 3 will save my xbox from getting traded in.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 2:30:06 PM

Halo Reach will be great IF you are into Halo games. looks like a full fledge effort on Bungie's part, unlike Halo ODST

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CharlesD
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 11:42:04 AM
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xbox gamers don't deserve inFamous2 anyways.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 12:40:26 AM

Quality games should remain on quality consoles.

Glad to see many developers starting to see that way, with RAGE, Crysis 2, even Modern Warfare 2 used the PS3 as the lead console to develop on.

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tes37
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 5:21:37 PM
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I can't wait for inFamous 2. If Sucker Punch says they can't do it on the 360, I won't argue with them, but I will be playing this game when it releases.

No love for the xbox coming from me. I try not to talk too much about the 360, because I can't ever think of anything nice to say about it. I pretty much hate it and the atmosphere it has created in gaming.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 12:45:14 AM

"No love for the xbox coming from me. I try not to talk too much about the 360, because I can't ever think of anything nice to say about it. I pretty much hate it and the atmosphere it has created in gaming."

The atmosphere MS and the 360 has created. Thank you. That is exactly what has happened.

MS has been promoting bashing of the competition since the original Xbox, not just is ads or anything, but in forums, websites, all over the internet.

If it is true that they paid many of these people to write bad things about Sony and good things about 360, then I have lost all respect for them. I don't see any PSbots or PS fanboys floating around other websites, purposely trolling and bashing the competition. They all come here for a good conversation or well-thought out argument.

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FxTales
Tuesday, July 06, 2010 @ 10:36:46 PM
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I love the games like Infamous and Uncharted that took the first one, went all out on ways of bettering it and come back with these unbelievable sequels that make me appreciate the developers dedication.

These guys are THE example to follow.

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thj_1980
Wednesday, July 07, 2010 @ 3:52:45 PM
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Evne with the 360 having the dominate GPU PS3 still pulls over with it's stronger CPU to aid it's weaker GPU. But yes uncharted 2 and killzone 2 are defs graphic monsters on the ps3 beating gears and all other franchises said good graphics on 360.

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iSayuSay
Thursday, July 08, 2010 @ 12:10:07 AM
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I'm happy with my ps3

Not that i cant afford to buy xbot console. I could've done that ... but no, thanks

I hate the cheap build quality of xbots
I hate that oldie tray dvd drive
I hate the limitation of hdd space .. you can't instantly use any 2.5" hdd on it
I hate that ROD

My ps3 fail me once with YLOD (60Gb with bc and all) .. but not again ... i dont feel regret buying one more ps3 for my gaming system .. it's doing great now

OMG .. what did i say ... i just wanna say welcome to infamous 2 .. we're waiting so bad here :D

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Caanimal
Thursday, July 08, 2010 @ 3:35:44 AM
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I remember back in the day when the 360 first came out, a major techie friend of mine looked @ the physical stats that had been released for it and said "they should call this the Xbox 260 because it's not that big of an improvement over the Xbox" then he paused and thought about it and continued "maybe they call it the 360 because they are going around in circles using the same stuff (tech) over and over..." Later in the convo it turned towards the PS3 and Wii, he stated that "out of the 3 "next gen" consoles the only truly "next gen" console is the PS3 because it isn't relying on tech that is "old" even at this point in time".

Those 3 comments/discriptions have stuck w/ me ever since, and the last one is truly showing more and more truth for the 360 and it's abilities as the gen progresses and the system is pushed closer and closer to it's upper limit.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, July 10, 2010 @ 9:10:20 PM
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Sorry to anyone who responded to the fanboy troll Cueil, but he only shows up to cause problems in articles like these. And he'll always be gone quickly.

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aaronisbla
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:05:12 AM

lol i deal with that guy all the time on n4g, so im use to him

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