GT5 "More Suited To The Next Generation Of Machines"

They've worked and worked and worked and worked. It has taken a lot of time, a lot of effort, and a lot of money. But the final achievement should be so mind-boggling, the experience will be well worth the wait.

At least, Polyphony Digital boss and Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi says so. In the most recent issue of the Official PlayStation Magazine, he somehow managed to push the already towering hype to new heights by saying GT5 is actually almost too advanced even for the PlayStation 3. There are two particular quotes that have started to raise eyebrows, and they are as follows:

"The level of precision we've achieved [in GT5] is actually more suited to the next generation of machines. The detail that goes into a premium model [has] gone beyond the level of the current PlayStation."

The article goes on to say that the game in question "accurately models mechanical and cosmetic damage to an absurd degree, and whilst the classic models will buckle and crumple, those newer models will near-disintegrate." We told you before that given the gargantuan anticipation and expectations for GT5, it absolutely needed to become the best simulator ever. ...but the more we see and hear, the more we're convinced that's a foregone conclusion.

Related Game(s): Gran Turismo 5

Tags: gt5, gran turismo 5, ps3, ps4

7/12/2010 12:32:29 PM Ben Dutka

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Jawknee
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:44:42 PM
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I'm buying the hype. I can't wait for this game. its going to make any future installments of Forza look like garbage for the rest of this generation.

22 up, 2 down

Victor321
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:05:40 PM

"This" generation? More like the next 4! XD

8 up, 2 down

maxpontiac
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:40:48 PM

It's hard not to brother. Been playing GT5P lately, and that game although over 2 years old impresses me.

7 up, 2 down

Naga
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 4:56:39 PM

Gran Turismo just makes the other sims look like amateurs.... and I'm getting fed up with it the handling is just so perfect

3 up, 1 down

jlch777
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 6:07:20 PM

lol i cant wait to play this, i am thinking about a playseat, need to play this game to the fullest.

5 up, 0 down

Wissam
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:44:42 PM
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That's crazy.

5 up, 1 down

Alienange
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:45:27 PM
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How does that work exactly? It's beyond the level of the PS3, but it's coming out for the PS3?

9 up, 6 down

Highlander
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:50:12 PM

Yeah, it's a confusing comment for sure.

5 up, 5 down

Thrill Kill
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:10:59 PM

Makes sense to me.

10 up, 2 down

maxpontiac
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:02:39 PM

Not really.

Based on what we have heard, the Cars that PD have created are beyond anything we have seen in any driving game and quite possibly any game period.

My guess is the detail level is so great, PD had to be scaled back to what they originally wanted.

10 up, 1 down

BTNwarrior
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 4:04:38 PM

not really, I remember reading about a demo where they were running the game on multiple ps3s and achieving super HD resolutions

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Highlander
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 9:18:45 PM

@BTN,

IIRC it was 4 PS3s and they were running the game in the equivalent of 2160p, and this was using the older engine that was in GT5P. They also demo'd the game running in stereoscopic 3D about two years or so ago, and again it was running on 4 PS3s in a cluster IIRC, it ran 3D in full 1080p.

Personally I think that a 4 PS3 cluster is a sign of things to come in terms of what a possible PS4 might offer. The original Cell design anticipated Cells running in clusters. Potentially the easiest way forward for Sony would be to take IBM's enhanced Cell design (the PowerXCell 8i) and put two of them running at 4GHz inside the successor to PS3. Each PowerXcell 8i would have all 8 SPEs available giving the system a total of 16 (15 available) enhanced SPE cores, compared to 7 (6 available). The improved single precision performance and vastly improved double precision performance would increase the performance of those new SPEs far above the existing versions. That would give the PS4 approximately 4 times the power of the PS3. With a modern GPU design and a decent amount of RAM, that would make a very easy, and powerful upgrade over the PS3.

3 up, 0 down

maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 1:57:29 PM

You are missing my point.

Read my post further down.

0 up, 0 down

mexgeo86
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:47:28 PM
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November can't come soon enough.

11 up, 2 down

onsiterecording
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 10:37:57 PM

why the hell is that downvoted?

2 up, 1 down

mexgeo86
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 8:54:47 PM

haters gonna hate? lol

0 up, 0 down

Highlander
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:49:47 PM
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So, what are they saying? They created these ultra accurate models for the 'premium' cars, but had to tone the detail down for the PS3? I mean it's kind of confusing to hear this from a developer who's yet to deliver a fully fledged game this generation (GT5p was described by PD as the *prologue* for GT5, so it's *not* a fully fledged game). Are they saying that they PS3 can't handle the level of detail? Are they saying that they have already gone further than the PS3 can, and have toned it down for the PS3?

I just don't see the point of telling potential buyers that the game you're about to get was possibly limited by the hardware it runs on.

7 up, 9 down

alfredinho
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:35:38 PM

theyre not saying it could be limited, they are saying that the accuracy of the game is better than everything there is right now, that it is good as a next gen tittle

9 up, 2 down

Thrill Kill
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:40:16 PM

Is it not better to be truthful than to say your game is going to be the definative racing game of this generation when it most certainly is not?

7 up, 1 down

maxpontiac
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:08:08 PM

I take it as PD stating that their studio is one of the best, if not the best out there.

I downloaded a 18 mega pixel shot of a Lexus for my XMB wallpaper that showed every bolt, cable, hose, and radiator groove via the grille of the car.

With those photo mode pictures, a user such as myself who will view (GT5 through a 65" 1080p Mits), can take the time and check the automobile down the the last nut and bolt.

If I was as fortunate to have my own personal car featured in the game, I would be estatic over PD's dedication to reproducing my car at such an authentic level.

I only mention this because it would be impossible for the PS3 to display this level in game with 16 cars, weather, damage, and a working time of day clock. PS4? I am sure it will be able to.

Last edited by maxpontiac on 7/12/2010 2:10:02 PM

9 up, 1 down

Pandacastro
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 6:43:07 PM

Off topic who are those girls in your pic highlander? I see them before.

Last edited by Pandacastro on 7/12/2010 6:45:37 PM

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Highlander
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 7:26:51 PM

@Pandacastro,

It's my favorite anime style ladies. From left to right it's Mizuho Kazami from Please Teacher in black with her signature magenta hair, Shion Uzuki from Xenosaga in the middle with her copper red hair and very little clothing, and of course on the right we have KOS-MOS also from Xenosaga with her trademark blue hair and super tight armor.

3 up, 0 down

daus26
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 7:51:27 AM

Sometimes you can't take a translation too literally, cause it won't make sense at times.

I know this because when my native language is translated directly to english, it doesn't make sense sometimes lol. Probably same with Japanese to english, and vice versa.

0 up, 0 down

Radiitz
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:55:38 PM
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You know what this means now, right? GT 5 is now going to be delayed until the PS4 releases and will become a PS4 release...

3 up, 10 down

Gimmedat
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:19:09 PM

No its not what it means you freakin stick in the mud.Have faith that GT5 is gonna be everything PS3 fans have been arguing for years now with non believing 360 fanboys.Its coming November 2010 and Iam believing all the hype.

9 up, 1 down

oONewcloudOo
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:56:34 PM
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im confused if its "gone beyond the level of the current playstation" then it shouldnt work on PS3 its like saying GT4's cars are PS3 quailty which we all no there not unless he knows how powerful the PS4 is going to be

3 up, 5 down

ekauq
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 12:57:45 PM
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our consoles can't withstand detail of that magnitude

or basically...

IT'S A TRAP!!!

5 up, 4 down

kevinater321
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:24:39 PM

IT'S A TRAP!

4 up, 5 down

Alienange
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:11:36 PM
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Makes me wonder why they even bothered spending all kinds of time bringing this game to a level beyond the PS3. Why not just release the game when it was at a PS3 level?

Or is this just a bunch of hot air? Perhaps a failed attempt at hype?

2 up, 7 down

Highlander
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:18:06 PM

Our game is so advanced, it actually arrived via a temporal anomaly created by it's own greatness. It was originally slated for the Ps4, but because it is just so darned good, when it ran for the first time in 2015, a rift opened in the space-time continuum allowing this game to fall backwards in time. It's really beyond the level of the current PlayStation, but because of it's own epic awesomeness and time shifting capability, it is able to run on the PS3 consoles of today.

25 up, 3 down

HAMCHUNKS
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:55:51 PM

hahahah, nice one highlander

also who would thumb down? they must have missed the thumb up

Last edited by HAMCHUNKS on 7/12/2010 1:56:26 PM

3 up, 0 down

maxpontiac
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:11:07 PM

Highlander's explanation will do quite nicely.

4 up, 0 down

faraga
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:22:58 PM

If only you could mod the DeLorean ingame...

3 up, 0 down

Highlander
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:25:14 PM

Burnout Paradise. Legendary Cars. Jansen P12 '88 Special. Sorted.

2 up, 2 down

Alienange
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 4:05:33 PM

I hope you're right TheHighlander or there's going to be a bunch of disappointed gamers out there come November.

1 up, 3 down

FullmetalX10
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 12:32:55 PM

Had to sign in to thumb that one up Highlander ><

0 up, 0 down

swapnilgyani
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:21:48 PM
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I truly wish there was less talk and more delivery on games in general, and this game in particular.

C'mon, we all know it's going to be spectacular. So just do your jobs and let the game do the talking.

3 up, 5 down

cyoung101
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:24:43 PM
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It's probably code language for we do not fully understand how to write software for parallel processing.

1 up, 2 down

Thrill Kill
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:36:38 PM
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I don't think any of you are grasping his statement. The amount of detail and visual prowess of the game are probably more suited to a more powerful machine. We probaly have no idea how intricate the damage model is in this game yet, and to combine that with having 16 higly detailed cars simultaneously driving around a track with dynamic day to night transistions and also probably weather. I think they are pushing the boundaries of the PS3 with GT5. I think what he was trying to get across is that it would be easier to include everything they are trying to in this game on the next Playstation. I'm sure this game has been very difficult to design with all the features it includes and still have stunning 1080p visuals. I think they are overachievers and I for one appreciate all of their hard work and dedication.

15 up, 0 down

fluffer nutter
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:52:18 PM

Well said.

8 up, 0 down

Naga
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 4:59:39 PM

brinjg on the wall!!

0 up, 0 down

Highlander
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 1:54:49 PM
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Hmmm....Another possible interpretation.

If they think that the game is more suited to the next generation of console with the massive detail in the premium car models, does this mean that a) PD has seen early specs for the PS4, b) that the PS4 will include even more parallel processing with heavy optimization for physics work and c) PD thinks that the next PlayStation will be an absolute monster and d) this game is an absolute monster that really pushes the PS3 hard, and they already know where they can make it even better, once the hardware is there.

3 up, 0 down

maxpontiac
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:12:21 PM

That view makes alot of sense. Sony has stated that the PS4 will have developer influence.

5 up, 0 down

kraygen
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:11:23 PM
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I think he's just saying that the detail in this game is so amazing that you will think you're playing on the next generation of consoles.

It is on ps3, but it's so awesome, that even they can barely believe they got this out of the ps3.

6 up, 1 down

Scarecrow
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:43:19 PM

^That's exactly it basically

It's so beyond what the ps3 "should be capable" of that it's almost ps4 quality.

He probably should have said "almost ps4 quality." But hey we know what he means.

1 up, 1 down

JackC8
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:37:58 PM
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That's all super-fantastic and all, it's just too bad that when I play a racing game, I spend 99% of my time looking at the track in front of me.

1 up, 2 down

Scarecrow
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:43:34 PM

Replay

2 up, 1 down

JackC8
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:18:55 PM

Yup, that's the other 1%.

2 up, 1 down

Arvis
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 10:42:31 AM

Replays are what got me into Gran Turismo, when I was a kid. :)

-Arvis

0 up, 0 down

Sir Shak
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:42:28 PM
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Does this mean that we'll see only one GT this generation?

2 up, 0 down

Scarecrow
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:44:42 PM

GT5 is two games in one.

If GT5 came out 2 years ago it would've had some 500 cars and 12-14 tracks.

4 up, 1 down

Scarecrow
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:45:46 PM
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Favorite racing series of all time.

It's this level of quality that's unmatched by any other racing game out there.

Blur, Need for Speed, Grid, pfffft none of that can compare.

4 up, 1 down

sirbob6
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 2:55:27 PM
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I can't wait for this game to come out so I can show it to my local Foranza buff. I think he may die at the sight of its shear beauty. Why can't November come faster, maybe I should freeze myself till the time comes.

3 up, 0 down

faraga
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:28:24 PM

Don't do that, you might just end up in the near future and have a really hard time finding a PS3 and GT5 because it's waaay old then.
Also, you will have to lead a battle among atheists.

1 up, 0 down

faraga
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 1:11:55 AM

Did I say near? I meant far future of course.

0 up, 0 down

Karosso
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:20:41 PM
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All he meant to say was that his game is too bad a$$ for this generation but they still were able to pull it off, thanks to the PS3 being soooo powerful.
PlayStation3, it only does everything, including PS4 games! LOL

6 up, 1 down

TheOldOne
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:23:18 PM
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I remember the time before games were not hyped on a daily basis. :(

4 up, 3 down

aaronisbla
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:45:06 PM
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For F**k Sakes, Just release the damn game already and let it speak for itself like most know it will

2 up, 2 down

Thrill Kill
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 4:22:19 PM

Go sit on the toilet and release your frustration already.

4 up, 3 down

Qubex
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 7:07:38 PM

I am sitting on the toilet right now!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

0 up, 0 down

aaronisbla
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 7:10:39 PM

who's frustrated? not me, just tired of hearing about it and wished it was out so we can play it already.

The game needs no hype like this, its GT5

Last edited by aaronisbla on 7/12/2010 7:11:50 PM

0 up, 1 down

Nynja
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 3:47:43 PM
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I cannot wait for this game. I'm getting way too excited...

3 up, 1 down

coverton341
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 6:10:36 PM
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So, hypothetical here, but what happens if this game does not deliver on every single bit of hype that it is building?

Before I have the torches and pitchforks at my throat, listen carefully. I am not saying that it won't; I am not even saying I think it won't. What I am posing is a question to everyone here, and that is, what if it isn't everything they say it will be.

I only ask because I for one will be getting this on day one regardless of if I can really afford it or not. I would get a paycheck advance if needed to get this game the day it comes out. That said, I am expecting a huge showing from this title as I am sure most others are as well. But, what happens if it is not all it is said to be. I for one am going to be very upset if the car design doesn't fool my eyes into thinking I am looking at the actual machine. I am going to be unhappy if the interiors of the premium modelled cars don't have every stitch in the fabric, dimple in the leather, and moulding joint in the dashes.

This game is building up a ton of hype and I for one really think that after all this time it can deliver but what if it doesn't? How are you guys going to feel? Will you write it off and still be happy with what it does do? Will you be slightly upset with the fact that the hype outshined the finally offering?

2 up, 0 down

Qubex
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 7:10:01 PM

Don't think you should worry about it, it should live up to epectations!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

3 up, 0 down

JackC8
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 8:25:33 AM

I'm trying to ignore the hype and just look forward to a great racing game that will keep me entertained for months. There are plenty of gameplay videos out there, and unless they're going to do a major graphics overhaul in the next 3 months, we've got a pretty good idea of what it will look like. I've set my expectations accordingly. My philosophy: A pessimist expects the worst, and so they're often pleasantly surprised. An optimist expects the best, so they're quite often disappointed. I try to be a realist.

0 up, 0 down

Dante399
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 8:40:09 AM

I for one, respect any perfectionist. And I believe that whatever the game delivers, I'll buy it because it's done with hard work and perseverance.
And because Polyphony Digital made a wonderful series of games, I'm a constant fan of their work.

0 up, 0 down

jlch777
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 6:13:24 PM
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2010 GOTY!!! at least for me!!!

4 up, 1 down

Shams
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 7:50:31 PM

Mine, too. It will probably be top sold Sony exclusive...(but still eclipsed by Modern Whorefare).

2 up, 1 down

Temjin001
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 8:30:56 PM
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Good to hear. For all the anti-press GT5 was getting back before they decided to include car damage I would've thought the current standard bearer for GT racing, Forza 3, would have better car damage. Instead, it appears to use lame canned crumple spots and textures for it's damage. While GT5 appears to be using a realtime physics simulation for damage. Props

1 up, 0 down

Snaaaake
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 9:11:54 PM
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Does that mean playing GT5 on your PS3 will make it overheat?

0 up, 1 down

kraygen
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 3:28:05 AM

Only if you play it with your ps3 in the oven.

1 up, 0 down

Condemnedsoul23
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 9:25:51 PM
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Gran Turismo is one of the few games I can buy without reading any reviews or renting it first and it ALWAYS delivers so even without the hype I was sold but now after all of this I'm going to get the special edition. This is the closest I'll ever get to owning one of these vehicles and I hope my favorite vehicle is in this version as well the mighty DODGE VIPER!

2 up, 1 down

StangMan80
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 10:41:01 PM
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Wow, there is no way this game woun't get GOTY. I don't understand that you ppl don't understand what PD is saying. PD is saying that Gt5 is so beasty that it is good anough to be played on the next gen.
I'm picking up the Collecters edition!!!

Forza has nothing on GT never has, never will!

2 up, 1 down

maxpontiac
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:40:38 AM

Truth.

1 up, 0 down

StangMan80
Monday, July 12, 2010 @ 11:12:13 PM
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They are working on inhansing the graphics and speeding up load times up to the release.

1 up, 0 down

Vidius
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 1:41:57 AM
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Come on, I been waiting a long timeeeee for this. Eversince 08.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 2:33:23 AM
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Maybe he means that a single car model running in their programming suite or whatever takes up more than 50GB. A Dual-Layer blu-ray disc dedicated to a single car... now that would look all kinds of awesome. I know I'm talking out of my backside, but yeah. As for the person that said if a game doesn't need the hype, it's GT5, that may be so, but the hype builds anticipation and anticipation builds buys, regardless of the end product. Just look at GTA IV for proof of that.

Peace.

1 up, 0 down

___________
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 2:58:04 AM
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i sincerly doubt that, because dunno if this is true, certainly hope not! but........
i remember reading that all the cars in GT5 except the pro ones are upscaled models of GT4.
if true, that is SO! disappointing! very last gen, let alone this gen, let alone next gen!!!!!!!

anyway, can we stop with all this hyping up please?
see, this is exactly why im always disappointed when a new game comes out.
the media hype it up and sometimes the developers or publishers hype a game up to be the second coming.
what is it with this industry now and hyping everything up as the reinvention of the wheel?
like capcom hyped up a new announcement and it turned out to be new info on MVC3.
they hyped it up to be a new big game, like DMC5 or something but turned out to be a preexisting game.

Last edited by ___________ on 7/13/2010 3:00:32 AM

1 up, 3 down

maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 1:59:04 PM

Do you own GT5P?

If so, take a look at the GT-R Proto.

Thats what we can expect.

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Dante399
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 8:46:38 AM
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If it is up to me, I'd spare GT5 for the next gen console; PS4. Because, I love the game too much and I want to see it more perfect than reality itself. But that's me.

Last edited by Dante399 on 7/13/2010 8:46:51 AM

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FullmetalX10
Tuesday, July 13, 2010 @ 12:37:11 PM
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This mthrfckr is looking awesomely sick, the level of detail makes it look unreal(and with that I mean real, as in hey, I saw that same car riding down my street, that is if that car wasn't a sports car, but like a fiat panda or sumthin')

Also, Curse ye trolls thumbing down the locals, get back to the bottom of ye bridges!

1 up, 0 down

daus26
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 7:47:58 AM
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Darn it! Shame on me. I'm always late to a GT5 discussion here.

Some of you made very valid interpretations. One thing that we must know is that translation is always rough, and sometimes if we take each word literally from it, it doesn't make sense, just like this one.

We just gotta take the overall idea on it, which I can agree with some you. It's confusing, but I'm going with the idea that the details and work they put into the models are more suited for next gen, which is why it took so long. It's actually something that was quoted before (twitter interview). Not the exact same thing, but similar idea.

Last edited by daus26 on 7/14/2010 7:48:23 AM

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StangMan80
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 2:15:51 PM
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If all devs put time in games like PD does then they won't need to bring a game out every year. The GT games can keep you playing for years. unlike most other games. I know I'll be putting plenty of time in GT5 over the nexy 5 years while GT6 is in the works.

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