PlayStation 3: The Only Choice For Hardcore Gamers
See Full ImageCall me whatever you want. Ardently make your case for one of the other platforms. Challenge the definition of "hardcore." I really don't care at this point; I've come to the conclusion that if you're a hardcore gamer, you have no choice but to own a PlayStation 3.
Why? Because I don't associate "hardcore" with time spent, skill or genre. You don't have to play a certain number of hours per week, you don't have to practice endlessly to become the best of the best, and you don't have to play only the deepest RPGs or the most competitive games online. No, in my eyes, the only requirement for the label "hardcore" is you have to love games. You don't stick to any one genre; you simply want to play the best games available, and although we all have our preferences, the quality of our entertainment is all that matters. Brand loyalty is pointless, hostility and massive superiority complexes don't mean anything, and at the end of the day, the hardcore gamer just wants to have fun. He wants the best. Therefore, is it even a question? If we want the best in most every genre, and we want the absolute elite, can we not have a PS3?
Platforming? Not much out there is better than the esteemed Ratchet and Clank franchise. You can be into shooters all you want but they're all sort of blending together these days, and the only games that really stand out seem to be Killzone 2 and - soon - Killzone 3. In terms of open-world action/adventure games, I dare say both inFamous and (next year) inFamous 2 are better than the likes of Crackdown (and GTA and RDR are multiplats, of course). Action...nothing tops God of War III. Nothing. Action/adventure isn't really a question; Uncharted 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 have that category all sealed up (as good as Gears of War really is). Sports and racing is usually all about multiplats but I think we're all expecting Gran Turismo 5 to outstrip Forza 3 in just about every possible way. And lastly, I ardently believe the PSN has by far the best selection of exclusive downloadables, including Flower, echochrome, Wipeout HD, Joe Danger, Shatter and others.
Yes, if you're "hardcore," you should probably own all three systems. But if you could only have one, I can't imagine any scenario where the 360, Wii or PC is the ideal system for all genres. RPGs remain the only undecided, as most are multiplats and I personally prefer Lost Odyssey to the lacking JRPGs exclusive to the PS3. And of course, it can always be argued that Live is somehow still better than the PSN, but the differences at this point are mostly minimal, and PlayStation Plus makes Live look a good deal less attractive, in my opinion. Even beyond genres, do we get anything like Heavy Rain on any other platform? And in terms of continuing to push the envelope; continuing to excel; continuing to provide gamers with new and improved forms of interactive entertainment, we all know the PS3 has the most potential remaining in the box. That's the way things are.
And by the way, I left 3D and Move/Kinect out of this because I don't have all of that directly in front of me, and I preferred to focus on the games alone for this particular piece.
Tags: ps3, exclusives, genres, games
7/14/2010 8:40:56 PM Ben Dutka
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:46:43 PM
That isn't my problem. It won't stop me from writing what I consider to be valid opinions for the community to comment on and discuss. Just because EVERYTHING is flamebait doesn't mean we're going to never talk about the PS3 and its games. :)
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:43:13 PM
I thought a hardcore gamer included all people who play for a certain amount per week, or had the highest stats, kill ratio, or whatever. It is accurately the person who plays the most games, regardless of genre.
This thankfully excludes COD nuts and Xbots who only play MW2 or Halo 3. Sure, they might play it a lot, but they are no where near as hardcore as myself and many other fine gamers on this website. It's also clear that 360 has established itself as the shooter's console of choice, but once that genre fad has passed (which it's starting to now), many more will flock to the next best thing, most likely offered by PS3.
There are Wii gamers which come under 3 categories, kids, casual adults and core fans. The core fans are unfortunately the minority under the Wii, but Mario games, Metroid, Zelda, No More Heroes and the following rush of games like Skyward Sword, Kirby, Epic Mickey, Goldeneye, etc are pushing the Wii back into the spotlight, more so than 360.
PS3 has the most to satisfy the core gamer, and Ben, you nailed them all. Racers, Shooters, Platformers, Action Adventure, Puzzle, but you did forget Sony introduces new genres with the likes of Heavy Rain creating the Interactive Drama genre.
Unfortunately, there is only one feature lacking in the PS3 that continues to make my friends choose Live over PSN, and 360 versions of multiplats over the PS3 version, and that is cross game chat, or the ability to make party groups outside whatever game you're playing.
My friends continue buying 360 games and paying for Gold simply cos of that function. They can chat with each other with the press of a button, simple as that. And Mics came packaged with the 360 console. That is the one and only edge MS has over Sony.
But in terms of hardcore games experiences, yes, Sony is the clear winner.
And now to convince my PC gaming friend and 360 fanboy to buy a PS3. It will save me lugging mine over to his place every time to play Littlebig Planet, or Motorstorm, or Singstar, or Buzz, or Rock Band 2. See, this is why I own a PS3, cos gaming is never boring on the PS3. While my friends are on 360 pushing their kill score on shooters, me and my friends are partying like it's 2009. (I say 2009 cos that was the year PS3 rose and dominated)
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:46:41 PM
I would love to see these so-called 'core gamers' on 360's try and tackle Demon's Souls.
Since many here play this game, it's pretty clear which gamers can call themselves 'hardcore' and say it with pride and dignity, not as an argument or to boast. (cough... teen Xbots... cough)
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BikerSaint
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:36:58 PM
<<<and all are well served on the PlayStatin>>>
Yes indeed, that's definitely a drug well served.
I have that medication prescribed to me as a dose daily of good maintenance.
It's definitely the greatest combination cure-all wonder drug, and youth serum, of all times!
(LOL, just fun'ning on the typo).
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:59:00 PM
If that's all I had to cling to with my machine, I'd freakin' kill myself.
But yes, the point is, the PS3 caters to everyone with top-notch quality in most every category of gaming. I have a 360 for a few exclusives but as was the case with my PS2 and Xbox, the PS2 just eventually ended up delivering more great games. What more is there to say?
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:57:58 AM
Very true. No matter how good the online service is, if there are no good games to back it up, then there's no point.
I am not arguing against your idea that PS3 has it all, cos it really does. Shooters are the 360's forte, and it just happens to be what is most popular, especially for online or social gaming. COD and Halo are party games in themselves if you really think about it.
But, in terms of cross game chat, when you have a lot of friends, most of them on 360's (particularly here in Australia where supposed hardcore gamers play 360 more than PS3), cross game chat and 360's easy to use online functions make online multiplayer gaming much more fun.
I tried to chat with 3 friends over PSN and just couldn't do it unless we were in a chat room or playing the same game. Party chat and cross game chat is such an easy way to play with friends, even if you're all not playing the same game. I find it a much more enjoyable experience playing online on 360, mostly cos my friends all have 360's.
But PS3 will be the king of single player games and many multiplayer games. I'm not saying cross game chat is the be all and end all of things, but it is most certainly an important feature, one many of my friends would love in their PS3's.
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Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:36:38 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:24:54 AM
It only does...
PS3 games
Online games
Casual games
3D
Motion capture
Motion sensing
Virtual pets
3D card games
Shooters
Platformers
Action
Sports
Football
Home
Darts
Movies
DVDs
BluRay
CD
Music
Internet
Radio
PS1 games
PSP Minis
PSN games
Multi-player games
Hardcore games
Japanese Games
Roel Playing games
Racing simulators
free online
virtual reality
Augmented reality
TV (in selected markets)
DVR (in selected markets)
Bluetooth
Voice chat
Text chat
Beat 'em ups
Fighting games
Sackboys
Mods
...
...
...
Everything.
Kevin Butler : Good god that's a long list. No one else has time for that list, they're too busy changing a ring to a dot.
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WolfCrimson
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:23:50 AM
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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:46:28 PM
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A few on Wii.
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:55:32 PM
In fact, my Wii wishlist is triple the size compared to my 360 wishlist.
We all know about Epic Mickey, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Goldeneye 007, Zelda Skyward Sword, Metroid other M, etc.
But apart from Halo Reach and Gears of War 3, what does MS have to offer? Crackdown 2 isn't as good as they hoped, and is definitely not a system seller. Kinect has no hardcore launch games, and the only one that interests me is Dance Central from Harmonix.
So, apart from those 3 games, what does MS have? COD exclusive DLC? Yay... Woo...
Medal Of Honor is more popular. MS put their eggs in the wrong basket this year.
Like I said, Wii has more than 360, and THAT'S saying something!!!
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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:07:53 PM
All those you listed are on my most wanted list as well. Donkey Kong as well.
Not much going for the Xbox. We're 5 years in and all they have is another Halo and Gears. Sucks for them.
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SvenMD
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:13:30 AM
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Orvisman
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:46:56 AM
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:31:24 AM
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SvenMD
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:14:49 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:47:02 PM
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Highlander
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:52:14 PM
Maybe we should form a brotherhood or something?
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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:26:39 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:36:16 PM
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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:39:09 PM
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:57:03 PM
We shall combine our systems and our game collections to become the ruling gaming entity of the planet!!!!!!
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:34:41 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:26:44 AM
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WolfCrimson
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:36:54 AM
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FullmetalX10
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:05:07 AM
Also, All hail Demon's Souls!
I just beat my 9th boss yesterday, death to the Penetrator "Spartans!!! We shall slay the False King next!"
"AHOO!"
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:21:15 AM
I haven't played Demon's Souls yet, but it's on my GameQ (I'm currently slaving through FFXIII D:)! So... Does that halfway count? Besides, you'll need a hardcore girl gamer... Right? Right?? :]
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SvenMD
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:17:05 AM
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TEG3SH
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:17:36 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:41:36 AM
Glasses are a must, but I think we'd accept cosmetic glasses, you know the ones that don't have prescription lenses.
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NiteKrawler
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:14:50 PM
(Mutant Brotherhood reference)
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:07:23 PM
And I can deal with non-prescriptioned glasses :D
May the Hardcore Gamer force be with you...
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darxed
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:33:03 PM
I enjoyed the hell out of Demon's Souls, and recently platinumed FFXIII, so I can join, right?
@TheHighlander
Outstanding. Now all we need is a deck of cards.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:02:03 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:25:52 PM
As for a deck of cards for the group. Coolness, but I need to be the Joker in The League of Extraordinary Gamers' deck of cards. After all I am TheHighlander and as we all know, there can be only one!
;)
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NiteKrawler
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:22:57 PM
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TEG3SH
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 8:09:04 PM
lol. soo true :) . so are we making it or wat.
shotgun as the leader of everything
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:44:01 PM
OK, well in that case, I'll shoot for the Ace of Spades (somewhere in the world, a Motorhead did a double take because someone mentioned them).
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darxed
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 9:46:54 AM
Actually, I was using one of the secret quotes from aliens you suggested, It happens when they weld the doors then IIRC Hicks says "Outstanding. Now all we need is a deck of cards.", but I guess no one caught that... Well I'm a little embarrassed, I don't know If I should keep posting quotes, now I feel I'd prefer not to. I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid... :)
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Highlander
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:28:09 AM
::Dies in shame for not recognizing the quote::
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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:37:17 AM
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SolidFantasy
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:16:23 PM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:25:20 PM
Be the "Ace of Spades"!
The ace is the "HIGH'est" card in the deck.
And it's considered the most important card in getting a "natural" Blackjack(the other one is the Jack of Spades).
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Deleted User
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:22:17 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:00:59 AM
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BeezleDrop
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:23:24 PM
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kraygen
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:23:50 PM
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I consider myself a hardcore gamer and I don't feel that I've missed much of anything by only owning a ps3. I feel more than content with what it offers.
I have heard many a xbot claim they only wanted a gaming console, well that is lame. If you buy a home do you only need shelter and settle for a tent at the same price as a house, of course not.
Ps3 offers the most diversity in game genre's, the most in multiple entertainment aspects, and continues to provide more and more entertainment options.
In the end, Ben you are correct and I couldn't agree more.
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WolfCrimson
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:23:11 AM
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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:38:24 PM
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I'm glad I have the Wii, but I would suffer a slow and sad death without the PS3. LONG LIVE THE PS3!!!! (at least 5 more years please)
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diecastpe
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:41:02 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:00:31 AM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:03:02 AM
Other than that, I'd agree with you. I still think FF XIII would have been a slightly different and better game had it remained PS3 exclusive.
Remember when SE mentioned stuff being removed for 'design' purposes? It would have been removed earlier in production, not that late. I smell a 360 limitation conspiracy brewing.
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diecastpe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:59:08 PM
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frostface
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:50:41 PM
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Was late off the block with this generation. Never had a Xbox but I do remember not knowing which machine to get until I took a gamble on the PS3. I really was clueless.
Best decision I've ever made though. Since getting the PS3, thats when I started frequenting game websites and settled here. Now I'm much more familiar with the games available and a lot more selective. There hasn't been one single moment were I've ever felt I should of went with the Xbox. Most of the games are multiplat anyway and the best exclusives imo happen to be on the PS3. No fanboy BS, it's just fact!
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godsman
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:52:11 PM
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Victor321
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:53:02 PM
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^.^ That sums up my comment.
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Luiscosmo2
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:03:28 PM
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But yea PS3 has diffrent varities...And the fact that my frineds(Soon all of 'em)got a PS3.... Cant say I hate this systhem...PS3 PS2 PSP
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booze925
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:03:39 PM
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like arcadey, fast paced games? go 360
want something different? go ps3
just don't care for quality? go wii
case closed.
by the way... of all the ps3 exclusives, god of war 3 has to be the weakest.... its good, but its just missing something. its still great, but not the greatest.
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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:10:45 PM
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:11:19 PM
It's just a shame you have to dig deep below a sea of casual crud like Carnival Games and iCarly to find them.
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booze925
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:18:03 PM
want quantity over quality, or super smash brothers brawl? go wii
no other changes are required
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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:22:16 PM
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Temjin001
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:05:43 PM
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noun
the most active, committed, or doctrinaire members of a group or movement : there is always a hard core of trusty stalwarts | [as adj. ] a hard core following.
I intentionally removed the porn reference hehe
Within the same dictionary, a definition for "gamer"
noun
a person who plays a game or games, typically a participant in a computer or role-playing game.
There's the brainiac response we all wanted from everybody's favorite ninja =p
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FxTales
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:06:07 PM
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This console and it's games just keep wowing me.
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:08:40 PM
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WHY didn't MS make Live a multiplatform online service!?!?!?!
WHY did MS have to release another console to market and introduce bullying strategies to dominate!!?!?!??!
WHY are there so many Xbots who claim to be more hardcore than us when all they play is COD and Halo?!?!?!?!?!?!
WHY does 360 continue to sell!?!?!?!?!?!?!
WHEN will PS3 finally get cross game and party chat and finally, FINALLY put 360 and its loud mouth followers to bed once and for all!?!?!?!?!?
That's why I love Playstation!!! It's audience is so mature and know a good game when it comes out. Sony knows this too!!!!
Please Sony!!!! Release the PS4 earlier than the competition. Make it cheaper than the competition. And continue on your glorious path to cater to us core gamers!!!!!
I don't want a repeat of this gen. MS created a nasty environment in the gaming world. People on the outside view us as foul-mouthed, aggressive shut-ins with no girlfriends and no lives, but MS created that monster. Do not destroy the monster, but destroy the company that made the monster, and transition the monsters of now to the respectable gamers Sony envisions.
The PS2 was a glorious memory. The PS3 is a shining torch of hope in a world gone dark and wrong. The PS4 will light the way to a better future.
Or I can just convince my friends to get multiplats on PS3 instead of 360, that could be easier.
:P
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booze925
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:22:03 PM
gimme cross game chat support, XMB access during a chat room, and a new internet browser, and THEN give us a PS4 before the competition!
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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:25:38 PM
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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:56:05 PM
I have played online PS3, and cannot chat with my friends unless in a chat room in XMB, or in the same game.
To be able to chat with friends while they're playing a game I don't have, and I can play my own favourite game, means we can catch up and chat no matter what we are doing with our 360's.
It is a very, VERY important feature and is the main reason many of my friends continue to choose 360 over PS3 to play multiplats. So they can chat while jumping in and out of their games.
Also, the 360 coming out first cemented its place as the social console to have. Friend A could afford the 360 and got one since it was the first next-gen console out, so friend B got a 360 too. Friends C and D got 360's to play with them once they could afford them. Even if another better console was out, why buy that console when all your friends have a 360? You'd just prevent yourself playing with them!?!?!? That is why being the first console out has its advantages, look at the PS2!!!
This happened to me with Red Dead Redemption. I got it on PS3, my friends got it on 360, so while they are playing cowboy gangs with each other, I'm stuck playing with strangers or playing single campaign.
Do you see now Jawknee!?!?!?!
Cross game chat AND getting your console out first IS THE most important thing to dominate in video games, especially now that it's such a social thing. Maintaining that dominance is another story, one that Sony is good at but MS clearly not. This explains 360's popularity in the first 4 years of its life and why the PS3 is overtaking.
Look at PS2. It came out first and was cheaper. Fortunately Sony continued its dominance by making great games for it constantly. Gamecube was cheaper, but came later, so did Xbox but was far more expensive at first, which is why it failed and moved on only 4 years after being on the market.
So, to say coming out later for technology's sake or that Cross Game Chat isn't important is just plain wrong in my eyes, and is borderline Sony fanboyism. I honestly compare it to Xbots saying "We don't need Blu-ray. It's a useless feature".
Blu ray is a very important feature for games and developers, just like cross game chat. Being the most popular console may also mean releasing your console before the competition. It's not the only thing, but it does help.
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:38:01 AM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:09:42 AM
I played Splinter Cell while my friends played Bad Company 2, I ended up just leaving the Live party group and playing the game without distractions.
I dunno. I guess I'm just frustrated that my friends use their 360s as their main console, and only PS3 for its exclusives, which are a lot!!!! Whereas it's the other way round for me, PS3 for everything, 360 for exclusives.
It just means that games like Red Dead, Medal of Honor, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, COD, Blur, Split Second, GTA IV and all those other multiplat games are wasted on my PS3 when all my friends buy the 360 version. Forces my hand to make me get the 360 version just to play with my friends, AND THEY HAVE PS3'S!!!! They just prefer 360 for multiplat games cos they still believe Live is better and games run better on 360 most of the time.
Just makes me frustrated, you know?
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:29:12 AM
I know what you mean. You can always find new friends. haha
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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:03:10 AM
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sirbob6
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:12:41 PM
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I'm also glad I chose the PS3 over the 360 back in '07. So many good games in every genre. absolutely no regret buying it even though it had the higher price.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:59:17 PM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:02:13 AM
Oh Ben, how could you? It's Sony's signature game for this gen.
:P
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sirbob6
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:22:41 PM
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Oxvial
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:31:39 PM
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FM23
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:19:29 AM
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I can see your point with cross chat, but then again, why not just use the phone, bluetooth, etc. Personally, I could care less about that feature.
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:14:11 AM
I just find cross game chat and Lives chat settings easier to use and set up. It's the only advantage for 360 in my eyes. It is also the main reason my friends continue getting 360 games instead of PS3 versions. Forces me to get the 360 version just to play with them.
Like Medal of Honor. All my friends want it on 360, but I want the PS3 limited edition. Now I have to choose whether to go limited and play on my own or with strangers over PSN, or get the 360 version just to play with my friends.
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FM23
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:58:06 AM
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:27:18 AM
Makes me wish I got MW2 on 360 instead of PS3 cos most of my 360 playing buddies play that. Wasn't even worth it for single player on PS3. But at least I got Uncharted 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 around the same time to make up for my MW2 purchase. Won't make the same mistake again, no more COD games for me.
I guess you're right. If my friends are all getting Bad Company 2 and Medal of Honor on 360, I may as well just get it on 360 and play with them.
This is also why 360 is doing better than PS3 in sales. Apart from red ring replacements, many friends have 360's, so what do you buy if you wanna play with your friends?
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Clamedeus
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:22:29 AM
If we find a game we love and want to play we buy and play it.
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bigrailer19
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:20:42 AM
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I dont really have a preference of genres, I like them all. My collection includes every type of game out there. I love games for what they are, and what they bring. I can't honestly say that I like one genre over the next, I can only say what game I enjoyed the most.
The PS3... Let me back track, I've owned most the consoles since the early 90' til recent. I did however get into a slump sometime between the PSX, and PS2, but the PS2 and Socom got me right back into gaming. Through all of those times Sony has got me covered time and time again. The PS3 was a no brainer for me. Once again Sony has me covered!
I dont have the time or money to buy games for 2 consoles. Thats why my wii never ever gets played, GOW3 or Super Mario Galaxy 2? I mean c'mon, really? Mario may be fun, but Kratos is much more interesting. And I am saying right now all my multi plats would be on the PS3, over the other console, regardless of technicalities. As time goes on devs are pushing the PS3 hardware further and that goes for 2nd even 3rd party devs as well. Which means no lack of quality on the only console I own!
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Dancemachine55
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:31:11 AM
The days of poor ports to PS3 are almost over. Bayonetta may be the last of a dying breed. The breed of poor PS3 ports.
Glad to see developers getting back on Sony's side. Speaking of which, they're helping develop the PS4 to make it developer friendlier from launch. Nice move Sony.
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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:58:17 AM
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Lawless SXE
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:59:08 AM
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I don't like to bash the 360, but it is inevitable. It simply cannot stack up the greatness that is available on the PS3. The range is not as diverse, and for some reason, it just seems clunkier to me. Everything about the PS3 exudes a slickness and sleekness that the other two consoles cannot achieve. If hardcore means loving any and every type of game, then you'd best believe that I'm hardcore.
Also Ben, I'd say Heavenly Sword comes mighty close to a match for GOW3. But then you discount Ninja Gaiden, and that's supposed to be a mighty fine action game. (I say supposed to be, because I only played the demo for NGS. About thirty times. Never was interested in buying the full game though.)
Peace.
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TheRaPtuRe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:55:24 AM
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Ive noticed how these kind of articles have become alot more frequent over the last few months on this site. Seriously whats the point?
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:37:08 AM
Ben was thinking a bout the broad definition of the term Hardcore gamer and what platform best serves that kind of gamer. Instead of flaming him and the article, why don't you post *your* thoughts on what a hardcore gamer is and which platform best serves them?
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:46:02 AM
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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:01:49 AM
It's a freaking EDITORIAL, dummy! Why don't you comment something constructive? I scholar might disagree with a topic, but he would reply with his or her opinions on the topic and offer a legitimate alternative view point.
My 10 year old cousin, on the other hand, might respond with, "That's stupid!". If I ask him WHY it's stupid... he'll probably say, "I dunno. It just is!"
You are like my 10 year old cousin. Give a real and original thought.
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Robochic
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:59:08 AM
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My son loves the PS3 so much we are fighting over who gets to use it, he loves Toystory 3 and i really want to play more Heavy rain to get all my trophies.
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RadioHeader
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:38:08 PM
Most kids are accustomed to being told to "get off that PS3!" by their mothers, but how many of those mothers follow up with "it's my turn! I needz my trophies". HaHa I love it :)
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___________
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:11:30 AM
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whats wrong with the 360 or PCs?
the PC is the true only home for hardcore gamers, because it gives the player options ps3 owners could only DREAM about!
i really enjoy having the ability to go into the game settings and turn on or off things i do or dont like.
or even playing around with the debug console.
not to mention there are so many mods online that no console game has!
there are so many different mods for crysis out there, it would take you a month to play around with them all!
not to mention the PC is the only platform that allows normal people with no game development experience to make a version of a game.
counter strike, one of the industries most popular games is a mod of half life.
thats one thing i love about valve, they actually include their fans and add in some of their levels into their games from time to time.
a few guys made a pack for L4D2 and since gabe was here to promote L4D2 he actually went to their house and played them, and gave the guys his advice.
now name one other developer that would come to your house, to play their version of your game!
now thats fan service right there!
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Clamedeus
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:35:35 AM
And again normal people making a level or a kart and a character.
LBP2 you can make your own shooter, racer, etc.
EDIT: Oh! And all of your tracks or games(LBP2) people can play them. ^_^
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___________
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:13:01 AM
the whole point of mods is to take a game, and give people another version of it, without having to buy a new game.
LBP sure you can create your own levels, but its hardly a different game now is it?
plus all that stuff is MP only, mods are SP or MP whatever you want them to be.
if i wanted to, i could go and make a zombie mod for crysis i cant do that for any ps3 game.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:29:31 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:34:40 AM
It's fairly undeniable that the 360 is a shooter fan's console. Sure they have some other games, but by and large, the 360's focus is on a particular genre of game. PCs are similarly focused on particular kinds of game and lack the broad approach of the PlayStation brand.
There's nothing wrong with PCs or 360, but if you take a broad definition of what a hardcore gamer is, then the platform that most effectively serves all game genre is indeed the PS3 (and PlayStaion brand in general). I don't honestly think that's up for debate. Nor did I take from the article that Ben was bashing either PC or 360 gamers or platforms.
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sawao_yamanaka
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:55:03 PM
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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:55:25 AM
Keep your ugly mods.
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Highlander
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 12:00:18 PM
:D
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FullmetalX10
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:23:28 AM
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Anyways, Ben, you forgot Demon's Souls, it's so awesome, it just gives you that good old sense of accomplishment and that adrenaline rush when you're almost dead and you have no grass but the boss has like 1 hit of hp left and then you run and evade and BAM you win!
Just plain awesome pie, with some whipped cream on top.
But yeah, we all know PS3 is the definition of a hardcore gamer's console, it just has the best games to offer and the most genres conquered.
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Clamedeus
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:40:38 AM
I was sweating bullets.
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ChronowerX_GT
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:12:43 AM
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Look at it this way. A hardcore racing driver isn't some 17 year old kid who likes racing his mates cars round a car park it's the like of Lewis Hamilton or Mark Webber. Yeah sure they may drive other cars. Webber also did GT racing. But the point is they have chosen a particular type and stuck to that.
That pretty much sums up what I've done. I love GT. So much in fact that it was the reason that I've got a PS3 and not a 360. Although I do think that the PS3 is superior in pretty much every aspect. At the time price was the main factor. I've bought a new TV for it and a racing wheel as well just to play GT. Now I own other games like Burnout, Dirt 2, GTA, MGS and Mirrors Edge but I don't put no where near as much effort into those games.
In some ways I guess I'm trying to say that in my opinion someone who loves games, most types of games and plays them for the fun would be considered casual gamers. And for the most part that's what I am.
A hardcore gamer is someone who takes it to the next level. They have more gear, generally devote more time, perhaps are in a clan and most probably better than most casual gamers. And sometimes it's not always about the fun.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:28:08 AM
LBP? God of War? Heavy Rain? Ratchet? And besides the obvious, entire genres are essentially missing on PC, making it an entirely useless platform in my eyes. Hasn't changed for 12 years...and that's a problem.
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:45:33 AM
Crysis...thats about it. and even that im not in a hurry to go find a copy.
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ChronowerX_GT
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:26:59 PM
The amount you can customise is the main reason. In comparison consoles are very limited in what you can do. There are countless peripherals, graphics cards, sound cards, processors, motherboards, etc meaning you can get the PC just perfect for what you want.
Sure you're not gonna find PS3 exclusives on PC but that's more down to matter of opinion if you prefer them. To be honest the only exclusives I have are GT5P and MGS4. Although you've still got the likes of MW2, GTR Evo and (my personal favourite) Americas Army.
Clans are much more involved and competitive on PC and applications like TS really give another level of communication and configure-ability.
Games can be heavily modded. Look at the likes of GTA 4, Unreal Tournament and Star Trek: Bridge Commander (It's an 8 year old game but what's been done to it is amazing.)
My fav racing sim is Gran Turismo. To me nothing comes close in terms of enjoyment. But if you want hardcore FIA GTR or R-Factor is probably the way to go. It offers much more versatility than GT, allows head tracking, works will all the good wheels, heavily modifiable. Oh and multi monitor set-up.
The one benefit is that a high end gaming rig is more powerful than the PS3.
Of course it does have its downfalls. A high-end rig is quite expensive and no PC could match the performance of the PS3 for the same price. Add on top of that stability and compatibility.
So that bring me back to the PS3 being great for the casual gamer. Hardcore professional gaming however, is the PC's territory. And I'm afraid it looks like the Xbox is 2nd when it comes to FPS. Although there's very little reason now to get an X-Box over a PS3.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 8:17:44 PM
Hardcore gamers in general need for more. At this point, the PC is one of the most limited platforms in existence, and let's not forget that innovation is essentially dead. ALL the innovative stuff is happening on consoles now.
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ChronowerX_GT
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 7:22:09 AM
As for the games it's a matter of taste but there's been some fantastic games over the years on PC that, even with a console version as well, I'd choose over the console. How about the likes of Unreal Tournament, the game is far better on PC. I have both versions and there's no reason I'd choose the PS3 version over it except if I'm sitting on the couch and cba going into the office.
COD, GTA, AAO, WOW, Crysis, NFS, DiRT amongst many others have all recently been on the PC and that's just off the top of my head and I'm not even a big PC gamer.
Type in lan party on google images and tell me that the PC isn't the choice for hardcore gamers. In fact I couln't find one party using the PS3. And that's not some fanboy talking because remember, I prefer the PS3 above all other platforms.
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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:57:50 AM
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:29:40 AM
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I am Gemo and I am a hardcore GIRL gamer who owns a PS3.
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WolfCrimson
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:53:47 AM
On a more serious note:
Whoa there Gemo, you might wanna take it easy. Health before hobbies.
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:03:19 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:31:10 PM
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Deleted User
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:44:42 AM
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offtopic just a little heads up the other day i found Red Faction gurilla for 15bucks and bioshock 2 for 20bucks yesterday at walmart so you all might wanna check your local walmart if you have not played thes games yet.
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Clamedeus
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:52:40 AM
Well this is a PS site you know.
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bigrailer19
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:36:05 AM
Hmm, I mean I never thought of it as a bad game? but over Heavy Rain? That's new!
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:26:04 AM
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Oxvial
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:03:08 AM
''Red Faction gurilla for 15bucks and bioshock 2 for 20bucks''
two great games ,soo people that don't have them... now its time!
Last edited by Oxvial on 7/15/2010 11:05:42 AM
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SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:00:48 PM
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kraygen
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:22:18 PM
If you like running through levels that are essentially dark hallways, every level the same goal, nothing to do but run, run, run, and pointing a flashlight, sure.
You can say Alan wake is better.
Of course I can also say that eating cheese on mars is better than eating ice cream on jupiter. ;)
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diecastpe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:07:18 PM
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Dancemachine55
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 1:40:22 AM
Played it. It was good, but more annoying than anything. Loved the story, but shooting mechanics weren't as good as I hoped.
Heavy Rain. I played that over and over again. Got multiple endings and got all the trophies.
Alan Wake, played it once, perhaps never again. Little to no replayability. And Heavy Rain has got a second wind with Move controls.
I'm sorry, but Alan Wake over Heavy Rain? You're on the wrong website my friend.
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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:49:06 AM
And Alan Wake is not a shooter I would make a priority. It isn't that fantastic.
But let's imagine for a minute that it IS awesome. And let's imagine the ME2 is equally awesome along with GeoW and whatever the heck ever Halo game is coming. (BY THE WAY, all these apparently awesome 360 exclusives are all FREAKING SHOOTERS... holy heck get some diversity!)
So yeah, as I said, imagine. These are the only games I ever hear people raving about in association to the 360's 'awesomeness'. But they're all shooters, and they aren't that awesome. Congratulations, 360, on a small collection of decent shooters.
Now... where's that list of PS3 games... You'll have to give me a moment... I have the list here in this room, but it's written on a scroll which ends in the next room.
Anyone remember that Animaniacs song whose lyrics were entirely the names of countries? I bet you could do that with GOOD Playstation exclusives.
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Sithis
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:49:18 AM
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In Pakistan, the 360 outnumbers the PS3 by a wiiiiiide margin. Like 15 to 1. Anyways, the main reason for this was the price tag. People couldn’t afford the PS3 in the starting days. I bought the 60GB on 24th February 2007 for 38000 Rupees which are equivalent of 445 US Dollars.
When I bought it, the issue of games came up next. There is not a single fully established gameseller like you have e.g. GameStop. Private shops set up selling the games to the poorly informed customers e.g. God Of War Collection was selling for a full 60 Dollars. Sometimes they don’t have the games like Dot Heroes or ModNation Racers. So availability is a problem as well. Second, we have no separate Region nor a separate PSN thus we are forced to make US and UK accounts. Third, the piracy. The games for PS3 sell here as per the full price that is 60 dollars or around 5 thousand rupees in my currency, the 360 games on the other hand sell for around 250 rupees which is equivalent for 3 US Dollars. I don’t need to tell you which way the gamers look when buying PS3 or the Space Heater. Needless to say, they still haven’t found a way to pirate PS3 games.
Same thing with PS2 as well, games sell for a Dollar each. But in those days I didn’t know the difference between Pirated and Original because internet was not as nearly accessible as it is today.
The game that sells the best here is –surprise- Call of Duty. And whoever plays that well is automatically the “hardcore” gamers. I’ve never been considered hardcore because I’ve put in 170+ hours into Oblivion. And for my online FPS fix, I play MAG. And because I absolutely hate Call Of Duty despite being better than most of my friends on the first Modern Warfare. Games like Fallout, Oblivion, MAG, Resistance, Killzone, etc are deemed unconventional. While games like Battlefield and Call Of Duty are deemed “cool.” Demon’s Souls isn’t even remotely on the map here.
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Sithis
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 7:02:13 AM
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I recently took a leap of faith and went for a new Dragon Age Origins for 3000 rupees that is 35 dollars and absolutely loved it. No regrets at all.
As for Demon’s Souls, yeah I have it. Have I finished it? No. I die in the first world but I’ll keep trying. It’s super tough. So what do you think? Am I enough to be hardcore?
Keep it in my mind that I’m 14 years old. Gonna be 15 in November. Can I be the youngest member of PSXE? I hope you all don’t discredit me just because of my age. But the readers at PSXE are the most intelligent gamers I have ever seen.
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FullmetalX10
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:45:09 PM
Just keep it up on the Demon's Souls, the more you play the better you get.
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Clamedeus
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:42:07 PM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:57:46 PM
Well, you definitely got my vote!
(not that my vote count's for anything), LOL
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The Stig
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 7:18:30 AM
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I can't count the amount of times I've read 360 players boasting about how the 360 is for 'hardcore' gamers. But 99% of the time all they play is CoD and Halo. I think they should be re-classified as 'hardcore shooter' gamers.
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:25:34 AM
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Danny007
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 8:18:22 AM
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NazzyQ
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:19:43 AM
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kraygen
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:23:26 PM
____________
I'm sure he's had some great incites into this article.
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Snaaaake
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:01:12 AM
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I do however agree with what you said.
But come on Ben, everyone here on PSXE already know that we're the real harcore!!!
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Temjin001
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:27:44 AM
*all the following events are purely fictional and are intended to be humorous*
*Ben receives email from Boss*
Boss: "Ben we're running low on site hits. You need to pick a few more editorial pieces that stoke the coals a bit more"
Ben: snickers to himself while pulling open his bin of editorial ideas. Locating the well worn folder entitled "PS3 vs 360 flame-wars."
Barely audible, Ben says to himself "Hehe, nothing stokes the coals better than one of these babies"
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:30:16 AM
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Scarecrow
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:49:54 AM
No, not everyone knows that the ps3 is the true hardcore console.
Some will still argue that the 360 has more quality games, or that it's more hardcore because it has more people online or whatever.
Ben's pointing out the fact that what really defines a hardcore gamer is one that loves quality games over any console allegiance.
Therefore, it boils down to one console, and that is the ps3.
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Snaaaake
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:43:16 AM
But then again, I apologize for my rudeness because there those who doesn't think so........yet.
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:46:34 AM
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diecastpe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:02:04 PM
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Scarecrow
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:31:47 AM
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Variety and quality is truly the best combo. And we know Playstation is where those two words mix better than in any other brand.
Let's look at 3 future exclusives for both consoles:
-GT5
-LBP2
-The Last Guardian
-Halo
-Black Ops
-some other FPS
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WolfCrimson
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:57:53 AM
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:08:59 AM
You're right. Perhaps he was meaning the exclusive DLC?
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:49:29 AM
Telling isn't it. Xbox 360 exclusive line up. Shooters, shooters and more shooters.
Lame, Lame and more lame.
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:01:51 PM
You mean...
Shooters, DLC for shooters and...um...more shooters?
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RadioHeader
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:25:33 PM
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I still don't know how the 360 avoided mandatory recall, but at least it's not getting much praise now. I can settle for that.
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Douchebaguette
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:01:55 PM
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Damnit, I need to catch up.
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:21:56 PM
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WolfCrimson
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:33:36 PM
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:44:54 PM
Seriously, you bought a 360 to play a multiplatform game?
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:27:40 PM
I'm really tempted to shrug and say "I got nothing."
But, I will be nice and recognize peer pressure and a gamer wanting to play the game with their group of friends as an in-game posse.
Still, that's an expensive way to keep your friends happy.
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Douchebaguette
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:58:37 PM
2 of my friends were getting it on the 360, due to one of them making such a decision. I questioned myself "why??" considering all 3 of us already have PS3s but of course his natural reply would be "BECAUSE XBL IS BETTAR!" In the end I caved in since we're eventually going to get Halo Reach anyway plus really want to play Mass Effect 2 & replay Lost Odyssey.
Of course the experienced turned out have a completely different outcome due to my strict NAT type. Though I've managed to open it via enabling UPnP settings, for some reason there's more trouble logging in XBL than PSN xD. The RDR didn't last long and now I've got all three of us playing Modnation, so ts'all good. He understands his silliness I presume, but I guess that small RDR journey was kind of worth it...in some way...I'm going to kill him.
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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:54:26 PM
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Douchebaguette
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:14:20 PM
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Douchebaguette
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:18:13 PM
http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/835158-final-fantasy-creator-threatens-retirement
Damn.
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Temjin001
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 1:38:34 AM
Don't feel so bad about getting RDR on 360. After all, according to the well documented analysis provided by the Digital Foundry it's technically superior.
Here's their closing comments after a lengthy, and detailed, examination.
"In short, Rockstar is to be commended on what is an absolutely fantastic game on both platforms, but the technical analysis is pretty conclusive: if you've got the choice of buying the game for either console, Xbox 360 is the version of Red Dead you should buy.'
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Highlander
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:32:38 AM
I've yet to see Digital Foundry be positive about any PS3 version of a multi-platform title. No matter what they always manage to find some technical reason that makes the 360 version superior. Now, perhaps I am cynical, but it seems to me that when you are looking for something, you typically find it. Not to mention that the guys at Digital Foundry are doing what amounts to snapshot analysis of a moving source. I appreciate them and their technical analysis of some aspects of games graphics, but they take themselves and their 'mission' too seriously sometimes.
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Jawknee
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 2:08:47 PM
Highalander is correct about digital floundry. They are biased and its easy to see.
Last edited by Jawknee on 7/16/2010 2:11:23 PM
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Temjin001
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 2:59:57 PM
DF consistently makes accurate analysis of the games they compare. In every instance that I've had the opportunity to correlate their findings with my observations they are consistent. Not perfect, but consistent and reliable.
If you can provide me with some information or other analysis that suggests their efforts are erroneous and biased, I will take that into account. But until then, they've earned my respect and I will continue to rely them as a credible source to direct my multi-platform purchases.
It's also important to remember that a greater portion of multi-plat titles tend to preform better technically on 360.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:05:57 PM
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kraygen
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:26:05 PM
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rogers71
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:13:39 PM
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When I am playing a game, the last thing I want to do is have someone chatting in my ear about something else. I like to immerse myself into the gaming atmosphere and you can't do that if someone else is being a chatty nancy.
At the same time, if I am playing a game online, I am already talking to my friends so there is no need for CGC. It is a useless function that only serves the needs of the "twitchers".
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kraygen
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:28:48 PM
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If you're talking to your friend, then you're talking to your friend. Is talking to them on ur bluetooth headset for your phone different somehow than ur bluetooth headset for your ps3?
And the argument that phones cost money, well, yeah, but unless you have the worst phone plan ever, paying an extra $50 to talk thru ur console is just dumb.
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maxpontiac
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:08:38 PM
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Highlander
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:33:56 AM
Right there is your explanation. Not to mention that those numbers are US only.
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SixSpeedKing
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:41:48 PM
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rjmacready
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:00:24 PM
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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:28:57 PM
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With that said, I have 20 consoles & hand-helds,with around 1500 games, and I do go back & play on just about all of them(except for my SNES that I now have no room for, and my Gameboy Colors).
And at 57, I still did around a 37 hour marathon recently, and just a couple days ago I spent about 18 hours straight on inFamous.
But I have to say that when I was much younger, it used to be a breeze doing tons of gaming marathons, but now at my age, I'm pretty damned zombied out just before ending a session.
Maybe, I should just forget about doing any more marathons altogether, and just go start a daily regiment of drinking warm milk & take numerous mid-day naps instead.
NAHHHH, HELL NO..... too many games, & too little time!!!!
Besides, being a brain-fried zombie isn't all that bad!!!!
Last edited by BikerSaint on 7/15/2010 10:30:57 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:45:49 PM
You're about as hardcore as they get.
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RadioHeader
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:09:27 AM
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Geobaldi
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 12:21:30 AM
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BikerSaint
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:01:14 AM
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The idea of warm milk and numerous mid-day naps just doesn't agree with me anyway, LOL
And I just picked up Godfather2, Rogue Warrior & Wet for my PS3 collection. And they only wound up costing me only $10.33 each at Gamestop's "B2-G1 Free" deal & using My 10% off Edge card last night.
So NOW I've got 3 more freaking game to do in my huge backlog(but you'll never hear me complaining about having too many games, LOL)
BTW, I've been noticing I DO have these curled knuckles either in the shape of a choke hold, or a PS controller.
Naaahhhh, can't be a choke hold, I divorced that siren many darkened moons ago!
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Highlander
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:37:29 PM
However I think that too many people will read your editorial here as a PS3 fanboy piece. When they do that, they are missing the point. You defined 'hardcore' gamer in a way that I think is by far the most accurate and truthful I have ever seen. Hardcore, or what I have previously called 'core', gamers are gamers that like games, all games and can play pretty much any game and have a good time (assuming the game is any good of course). So many times hardcore gamer is shorthand for first person shooter fan. But that's just not it, and I think that's why people will misunderstand the article.
As you say for the hardcore gamer, the gamer that wants all kinds of game and all things console, the PS3 is the only serious offering that covers everything, whether it's retro gaming, mobile gaming, online gaming digital downloads, disc based or whatever. Still, I fear too many people will flame this for being very fan driven.
Last edited by Highlander on 7/14/2010 9:37:51 PM