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Wada On FF: "Difficult To Determine Which Way To Go"

I would like to make one thing clear; it's the best way I can describe my opinion of Final Fantasy XIII: the production values are immense and overall, it's absolutely one of the best games of the generation. It is not, however, one of the best Final Fantasy titles. I think it's important to recognize both aspects of the situation.

The reason is because it seems that some of the negative feedback for the game - most all of it from the long-time fans - has finally reached the ears of Square-Enix president Yoichi Wada. The boss has recently come under fire by saying things like "what's in America should be handled by Americans" and he's also indicated that Final Fantasy's direction as a franchise is very uncertain. This is why we read Gamasutra's interview, where we find out Wada has indeed heard some of the FFXIII backlash.

"Looking at the numbers alone, it is pretty good, because we were able to release the latest Final Fantasy in all three markets of Japan, United States, and Europe in a very short period of time, and we were able to reach 5 million units rapidly — and I think this product will grow further. But when it comes to the customers’ reaction to the quality of the game, some value it highly and some are not very happy with it."

But does he understand why some are unhappy with it? Isn't that the most important thing? Well...no, he doesn't, but at least he admits that he doesn't know. Said Wada:

"Should Final Fantasy become a new type of the game or should Final Fantasy not become a new type of game? The customers have different opinions. It’s very difficult to determine which way it should go."

Okay, I'm fairly certain I - and all our RPG fans here at PSXE - can answer that for you, Wada. Ready? Are you listening? Here goes: make a role-playing game that faithfully retains the mechanics and style of old installments, regardless of whether you think some will call them "outdated." In short, give us modern, updated versions of games like FFVII through FFX (maybe even FFXII). It can't be that hard...and for the love of God, please don't assume we all want a twitch-fest version of the strategic, RPG FF we've always known and loved! Thanks.

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy XIII

Tags: final fantasy xiii, ffxiii, wada, square-enix

7/14/2010 9:00:52 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (77 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:38:39 PM
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The fans have mostly the same opinion, FF should stay what it was and expand as necessary. Not abandon everything it was. How can a CEO be SO clueless about the most important franchise in RPG (if not gaming) history?

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:42:52 PM

Hes a dope.

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godsman
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:35:02 PM

He's a total idiot, period.

Wada: "Hmm... My sixth sense is telling me something is wrong with the FFXIII game, but I'm not sure."

FF Fans: (Waving signs 2 feet away from Wada's face.)

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eLLeJuss
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:32:52 AM

lol, FFXIII would be perfect if they could just add the TOWNs and NPC. DONE. But you know what he should do, HE SHOULD FOLLOW HIS HEART <3. LAWLERZ

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Clamedeus
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:46:40 AM

Jawk, i think that's what he was on. Not what he is. :p

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Highlander
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:44:20 PM
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Wada-san,

Please listen. You do not need to abandon the loyal fans of 'old fashinoed' JRPG games in order to court a new market of twitch gamers. You can service both markets with games made that appeal particularly to each market segment. Perhaps some of the gamers who love the old style will buy the new game to see what it's all about, and perhaps some of those new 'twitch' gamers will buy the old style JRPG to try it out. But you cannot grow your market if you only serve half of it. Please think about this and consider serving the loyal fans (who made your company what it is), at least as well as you serve those who are new and have never purchased a Square Enix game before.

Thank you

TheHighlander.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:45:02 PM

You should email them. :)

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godsman
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:40:18 PM

It's not just serving half the fanbase. Cause FFXIII had so much hype, that it was such a total disappointment. There will still be new gamers that continue to "try" FFXIII VS or the next FFXV. There's so much disappointment, in theory FF franchise popularity should be shrinking from now on, it's just a matter of how much. Unless they get their act together.

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Dante399
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 7:53:08 AM

@TheHighlander Totally agree
That's just what I was thinking; making two versions of the game; just like FF13 and Versus but in the two styles of the old JRPG and the new westernized one.
And believe me it'll work like a charm because hardcore fans like myself will buy the two versions just because we want to show our support to the company that actually LISTENED to what its fans want. So by this the company does not lose it's old fans "that made it what it is" and gain new comers with whatever the company has in mind.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:44:33 PM
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It's really not that hard Wada.

Just make Final Fantasy's like you made last gen and one the one before. Stop trying to cater to the shooter nuts. Just make RPG's.

They should have made Nomrua CEO. He like Kojima seems to care about his creative vision instead of expanding the all might empire that is now Squeenix.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 9:59:31 PM
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Did it really take him this long to find out he screwed us out of an epic FF?

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Deleted User
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:00:21 PM
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I can determine which way to go for you, Wada-san. How about you go away? I'm about to boycott your games, too, if you don't shape-up.

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kraygen
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:01:08 PM
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He thinks the numbers are pretty good? For a multiplat rpg called final fantasy with the number of gamers out there these days, that doesn't scream good to me, especially since most ppl who bought it were disappointed by it.

I'm starting to think he can't get anything right. I hope he doesn't influence versus, if not it'll probably sell more copies than 13 even tho it's ps3 exclusive.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:46:57 PM

Good point.

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:02:39 PM
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Wada clearly doesn't know what the fans want. For gods sake man, so many things were not very "final fantasy" in 13!
I'm currently at the tail end of 13 and I'm underwhelmed. It makes me remember my experience with ff12.
I played all the way to the very end and couldn't beat the final boss. In a huff of frustration, I stopped playing. Fast forward to a year later and I am feeling disappointed by never beating it. I went online and watched it on YouTube.
Even after a full year of not seeing the game at all, every memory and emotion of the story flooded my mind all at once. I'd call it something close to an epiphany.

Nothing like that will happen for 13.

Let's hope Versus goes well.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:45:57 PM

Feels kinda like a chore by the games end doesn't it?

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godsman
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:47:01 PM

I doubt versus will be any different. It'll be the same gameplay and style. As much as we like it to be exclusive, I'm pretty sure it'll go to the xbox too.

I feel like supporting used games are like piracy, but for this game, I'll be getting it used. Sorry Sony, nothing against you, but SquareEnix aint getting my money.

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:12:48 PM

I thought Versus was going to be an action RPG like Kingdom Hearts.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:16:55 PM

It is. Not sure what Godsman is referring to. I'm hoping that Versus XIII is already too far along in development to port over to the Xbox and that Nomura is fighting hard to keep it exclusive.

But then again, i thought we were still going to get a good Final Fantasy with XIII. As you can see I was dead wrong.

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GuardianMode
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:06:24 PM
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I think its hard for Wada to hear the gamers with all those bags and bags of MS money piled up in his office. >.>

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nogoat23
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:48:15 PM
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If you don't know the answer to something then isn't the appropriate response to ask a question? If Wada doesn't know what gamers want for the future of a game, then shouldn't he just ask them?

I know there are many people out there (myself included) who would love to voice their opinion.

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jdt1981
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 10:56:32 PM
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The first thing Wada needs to learn is that not all western gamers love dumbed down, linear/on the rails, twitch games... It seems M$ has some Japanese devs like SE fooled. Or maybe Wada is too busy counting the wads of cash his buddy Bill Gates gave him to care... So he's not going to take the time to find out what we actually want out of a FF game.

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Pandacastro
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:14:11 PM
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What to you mean by twitch-fest version of the strategic, RPG FF??

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:01:56 AM

It'd take a while to explain...

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:32:46 AM

They basically turned Final Fantasy XIII into a button masher only its less entertaining then other button mashers because the only button your mashing is X.

There was little to no strategy required in FFXIII. Just about everything was automated. A chimp could play FFXIII.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:37:02 AM

Twitch-fest: Smashing buttons as needed instead of inputting commands that determine an overall strategic command of the battle.

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SvenMD
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:04:11 AM

They've said it....'cause at it's core, FF is not about pressing the X button to Auto-battle....

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telly
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:35:43 AM

@Jawknee, that's what blew my mind about FF XIII -- if you MUST make the game a button masher, at least make it a GOOD button masher! FF XIII's "gameplay" consists of tapping X and/or pushing up on the analog stick. FF or not, progressive or traditional, whatever -- on what PLANET is that good game design?!

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Jawknee
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 2:16:59 PM

Planet Square apparently.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:17:06 PM
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You tell him, Ben!!!

Remember what Wada said about abandoning fans and trying to get new ones?

Who shoots themselves in the neck like that!?!?!?! Yeah, that's a smart idea, abandon the millions of fans who've been with you from the beginning and try to pick up the few hundred thousand who play COD and might, MIGHT be interested in your games.

... idiot...

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:18:02 PM
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I'd be content with PSP Final Fantasy's if they just made them like they used to.

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kraygen
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:05:03 PM

Amen!

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:18:13 PM
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Wada's confusion is only being caused by MS turning down his request for more Brinks armored trucks.

MS has just cut their puppet's strings loose,
so if you think about it, Wada's just seen his "REAL" Final Fantasy suddenly go South, rather than West.

Can Wada say...Bye bye MS slush fund millions???

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Gordo
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:25:34 PM
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I played FFXIII for 25 hours trying to get to Gran Pulse. By the time I got there I was so sick of the game I couldn't stand playing it for one more minute.

Traded it for Demon's Souls and couldn't be happier.

What I would like however is FFXIII's production values and cut scenes and Demon's Souls gameplay. Now that would be a cracker!

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Jawknee
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:28:29 PM

hahaha...when you get the Grand Pulse it does get a bit better but its short lived.

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Kangasfwa
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:37:16 PM
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I think Wada has a vision for square-enix as a company and he is simply afraid to stray from that vision, despite the demands of SE fans.

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Ergi
Wednesday, July 14, 2010 @ 11:54:54 PM
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Maybe atleast giving us the option to play it the old traditional way. If FF13 maybe had the option to play it actually turn based, where you stock your attacks for example would be an option. It couldn't be that hard, could it. But seriously this guy has to go do his homework.

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CHAOS THEORY X
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:26:53 AM
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Ugh, I couldn't stand FFXIII or FFXII...I also dont see how he can he can act like the number of people who liked XIII equals the number of people who DONT like it...I mean hit just about any forum related to it and youll see the majority instantly. I wish I had never bought it; I traded it in within a week. I don't suppose they know how many people trade their copies in or sell them.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 1:33:41 AM

LOL! Comedy Gold.

I did the same thing only i had to take a leak.

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Underdog15
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:32:09 PM

I'd say your disappointment grade is 5 stars, if we're referring to FFXIII.

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telly
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:45:09 AM

Another jaw-dropping game design choice. Did SE honestly forget that some FF players are not 15 year old girls?

My comedy story for XIII is me falling asleep on my couch mid-cinema I was so bored. I still chuckle thinking about that night. I shelved the game shortly thereafter. Maybe I'll circle back some day.

And Ben, for what it's worth, I respect your opinions on games and maybe that's a good reason to give this game another go-round. But my first try left me terribly disappointed and ambivalent about future FF games.

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Jawknee
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 2:19:14 PM

LOL! i got to end and shelved it. I have no desire at the moment to go back. Which is sad because i played the hell out of the other Final Fantasy's. I would complete them multiple times and try my best to get a 100% completion. I would spend hours leveling up my characters till they were all maxed, i would find every item, weapon, materia, draw every spell, etc. In fact it annoyed the hell out of me because i could not figure out how to max out the characters HP and MP in Final Fantasy IX. With XIII i couldn't care less.

But like you said, given Ben's reason for liking the game, maybe i will go back someday soon.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:39:16 PM

It's a fact. Deal with it.

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AntDC
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 7:35:37 PM

If my memory serves me correct, didn't you guys only give it an 8.5?

I could think of dozens that you guys have given higher praise too!

Top 50 of this generation maybe...

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Underdog15
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:29:25 PM

Arnold gave it an 8.3, Ben gave it an 8.7.

And anything over an 8 is top quality.

You COULD always READ the reviews to understand that not only did Ben give it an accurate score, but he did indeed mention it was still a great game. The issues involved brought it down below 9... But 8 point anything is a good game.

If you ask me, Ben is incredibly accurate and knowledgeable about RPG's and the FF series. A couple of users including myself have written some top quality reviews on the game as well. All of us gave it near the same score with the same assessment, more or less.

EDIT: also, I think you would be hard pressed to find 'dozens'.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:10:22 AM
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Ben, I'd be disinclined to agree with your statement that FFXIII is one of the best games of the generation. Sure, it has production values flying out its rear, but that's all it's got going for it. In my short time playing it (about four hours thus far), I haven't liked the way the characters twitch so quickly in movement, the lack of pretty much anything to do, and especially the battle system. I can understand the appeal of turn-based gameplay, but whatever it is in FFXIII is an abortion (Okay, I'll lay off now, I know I haven't played enough of it to form a proper opinion... Maybe it'll get better. Right now a workmate has it, while I've got his copy of Demon's Souls.)

It sold 5 million copies on name recognition. All those people thought they would be getting a top-notch, engaging, engrossing experience, and I can say that most of them ended up with looks of WTF on their collective faces.

To Wada:
Why can't you simply use your gamer brain for a change rather than your business brain? Understand this, my friend, the only people that are truly interested in Final Fantasy are the same people that enjoy being able to think as the result of a video game. That was taken away and destroyed in an unspeakable fashion with that atrocity you called Fabula Crystallis Nova: Final Fantasy XIII. We were left with a ridiculously straight forward, and vastly oversimplified game that failed, on pretty much all counts, to satisfy the people that really matter. The solution is staring you in the face. Make a game that the people that have been buying your companys games for the last twenty years will enjoy. Give them an epic and satisfying storyline, give them true turn-based gameplay and for goodness sake, give us something worthy of the venerable title 'Final Fantasy' in this generation. Forget the masses, cater to your core, or you will lose everyone.
Thankyou.

PEACE/LAW

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:40:30 PM

Yes, but you're only four hours in. Trust me when I say, the game proves itself as time goes on. It's NOT a great Final Fantasy but if it had been named anything else, it would've received 9+ from everyone. That much, I'm certain of.

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AntDC
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 7:39:30 PM

"if it had been named anything else, it would've received 9+ from everyone."

Almost everyone here would probably agree, but isn't that the point though? That ominous "if" stuck at the start of that sentence? Sure they could of, but they didn't. That's what gets to me the most.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:44:48 AM
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I actually think they dshould find a way to give us both options, it have the modern FF12/13 gameplay and the classic turn based, they could have it as an option at the beginning of the game or on the config menu. I love Lost Odyssey near enough to say it's my favourite RPG of this gen.

I personally enjoyed FFXIII, the story was a step back in the right direction, it was more character driven than political. I guess the main problem was that they did not give us a chance to explore the world at our own pace, there werent shops or houses to visit. But one thing they did get right was the structure of the story, something was always happening so that did not bother me, FF12 took forever to bring up an interesting plot event, most of them arised with the judges.They just need to get a mix of exploration and story right.

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___________
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:28:19 AM
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simple!
take the series back to its original exploration roots!
RPGs are all about 4 things.
1 exploration.
2 character development.
3 environments and people around you.
4 story.

all RPGs the whole point of a RPG is to have a big open world for people to walk around, and find things they need or will come in handy.

character development is IMO the most important aspect of a RPG.
you need to be able to create your own character, and shape him the way you want to.
be able to really connect with the character, and have him as a digital version of yourself.

environments, now a rich believable environment can add so much to a game!
red dead redemption you really feel like your character has a impact on the world, how people react to you with your previous acts and things like that.

the story in any game not only RPGs is the most important aspect to a game, it keeps the player interested.
prime example, alpha protocol is buggy, repetitive and one of the most frustrating games i have ever played!
BUT the story has me coming back time and time again!
i really am intrigued to find out what happens, i love the idea of my actions changing what levels i get to play, and the ending.
a fantastic story can turn a repetitive mediocre game into a good one.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 5:54:23 AM

You know, I prefer to have characters that are already set out in an RPG. In other words: Final Fantasy characterisation over Fallout 3 characterisation. It just seems more natural when you are playing as a character, rather than a virtual recreation of yourself.

Now to flip that on its head, one could argue that gameplay takes precedence over story. Again, Fallout 3 as an example: The story was so slow and drawn out that after about the fourth main story mission I couldn't give a damn what happened to my 'Valken' or his father, but I wanted to keep playing simply because it was so much fun. Or LBP, the story was a morality tale for children, but it was so much fun that I wanted to keep playing it. But then, I don't think that I could have forced myself to finish Assassin's Creed were it not for the story.

Story and gameplay should be listed beside each other when it comes to importance to the game.

As for exploration, Valkyria Chronicles is one of only five RPGs that I've played, and it thus far is my favourite, yet it features no exploration whatsoever. Granted it is an SRPG, but it does not feature this mechanic, and works better for it. It is preferable in a proper RPG, but not necessary. A primarily linear (branching paths to take, but still leads you to the same point) can be as good as any open-world RPG.

Character development, well, most WRPGs have next to none of this. Particularly the create-a-character ones. It is about you being whatever you want to be, and the other characters are merely there for you to craft a personality.

Create a character and a set personality cannot work well together, and that is the flaw in your logic.

Peace.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 6:27:41 AM

I agree Final Fantasy is not meant to have characters that are fully customizable like on Fallout 3, We need a main protagonist that is deep when ever i play a game like fallout the character you play as just does not seem to be a character at all. while it does work for fallout, i would be very upset if they did that Final Fantasy, it's far better told in 3rd person.

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___________
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:22:38 AM

maybe not create your own character, but i really do not consider a game a RPG if it does not let me explore a wide open world.
that and a living breathing world, are 2 really important things for a RPG, without them as far as im concerned there not true RPGs.

as for story, you used a really bad example.
fallout 3s story did nothing over the gameplay because it was so boring.
the best story versus the best gameplay i think story would win out of the 2.
obviously they are both a important part of each other, but what i meant was a game with bad gameplay but good story can be a good game.
but a game with great gameplay but poor story is less likely to be a good game.
why?
because story is one of the very few things unique to a game.
most games the gameplay is very similar to a game, so if i dont like said games gameplay but the story is good ala alpha protocol it will keep me playing.
but if a game has great gameplay but poor story, than i will probably loose interest in said game because the chances are i can find the same gameplay with a better storyline in a other game.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 7:00:16 AM
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Oh dear, Wada. What are we going to do with you? PSXE may not be a very big name, but we will always be remembered as the ones who were the first to say, "Told you so."

I'm currently working away at FFXIII (Chapter 11 is seeming to DRAG) and I feel lke I'm constantly needing to pay attention. There's not much strategy to this twitcher's delight. (Not the same kind of stretegy as it used to be, at least. I hate when you have to scramble to change paradigms to just have a medic.) It seems as though it's pretty lights, fast action, and many, many things to kill. I mainly miss the exploration! Linearity really sucks in a FF installment. In all honesty, I feel like my carpal tunnel may return soon... (Shudder)

Anywho, it doesn't hurt to give us all a throwback! Especially, like you said Ben, VII through X would make my day. Those beauties coming back in HD, and exclusive, would be the best ever. Would Cloud and Tifa actually have fingers? Would Squall finally look as though he has eyes instead of square pixels? And would Tidus' hair move when he did his bouncy little run? It makes a die-hard dream...

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JackC8
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 8:12:01 AM
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I'd been playing FFXIII for about 15 hours, and my daughter walked into the room. Her total experience with gaming consists of playing the Wii for about 6-8 hours per YEAR. I handed her the controller, walked her through a couple of battles, and at that point she'd mastered it. She got killed once in the next half hour, only because she was trying to watch the battle and not paying attention to her health gauges.

That right there is the problem with FFXIII - no challenge, no skill, no thought required.

Everything else about the game was quite good - the graphics were fantastic, the story was moderately interesting, the characters, well...they were pedestrian and one-dimensional, but they weren't too terribly bad. But for the love of god, the gameplay was like working in a factory and completing some menial task over and over until the sheer tedium of it just sucked the life out of you.

Fix that - quit assuming us Westerners are too damned dumb to do anything more complicated than pressing X repeatedly - and I'll be pretty happy with whatever "direction" they go.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:00:14 AM

See i did not find the game 'easy' i struggled on alot of bosses. For instance the on at the end of chapter 9 o.0. i think most people miss understand FFXIII battle system, it was more focused on having the correct paradigms than selecting the correct attack. i found myself switching paradigms in battle every frequently. because if you did not have the right ones at a certain moment it can make all teh difference. The one thing i wish they did not do was the automatic attack selection. it did become something which took over the element of choice for most of the game.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:46:14 AM

The game requires no mastery to complete it. That right there is a problem with a lot of games now. Games used to require time to master so you could finish them. Now it takes no mastery at all, only time. Look at the games (including WKC sadly enough) that have platinum trophies that take more time than skill. Why have a trophy that rewards spending 100s of hours playing instead of a trophy that rewards skill? What's next a bronze trophy for having the game open for 4 hours?

I want to see a return to games that require mastery, not just persistence.

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nogoat23
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 11:36:52 AM

3D Dot Game Heroes has a trophy for having the game open for 5 hours. "Getting the hang of it"

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:10:21 PM

lol it's funny you say that i left Dead Rising on for 2 hours today to get 2 achievements...

But with FFXIII it does require attention, you i noticed also for the more dfficult mission you would have to have the correct accessories on too or you would be in trouble. In FFVII later on in the game it did not matter what accessory you have really it only mattered towards the materia.

Also if your going to complain at difficulty, look at FFIX, i beat Ozma at levels 50-60, thats a bit simple for the hardest boss on the game. once you got to level 60 there was no need to level up anymore anyway, you'd start getting minor stat bonuses like Hp+1 every level.

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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 12:17:13 PM

FFXIII's longest to get trophies didn't really require much mastery. I mean, some were difficult, but trophies like the one for owning all weapons and accessories at some point was just monotonous. VERY tedious. Over and over and over... farming gil. I normally don't mind farming gil, but there is really only one good way to do it. You could be minimally more creative, but it would take a tremendous amount of time longer...

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gumbi
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 8:15:54 AM
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You tell'em Ben. Though, I really don't want/need a remake of an old FF game. I, like most fans, just want a new FF game with a fresh new story that is true to the traditional FF brand of gameplay and storytelling. Final Fantasy already has a HUGE fanbase. Those 5 million sales were primarily to final fantasy fans, and a lot of'em were disappointed. Not disappointed in the quality of the game, but in the style and presentation... it's just not what we wanted or expected from a Final Fantasy title.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:51:27 AM
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Confused what we want Wada?

Easy solution, LISTEN TO YOUR FANS!!
No wait, listen to Square Enix's fan I mean.

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BigBoss4ever
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:59:20 AM
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Wada, just simply disappear, the FF franchise, the SE, and the entire JRPG industry is much better off without you. -- you don't have any idea about a good JRPG this gen, and you willl NEVER have, period.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 10:17:11 AM
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Why don't people learn from History? I don't get it

Isn't this what happened to Metallica? KISS? AC/DC?

I know it's music....but still, it also applies to this. Fans want what MADE those bands, not some new age BS. Let the newer bands play that new age crap.

If I wanted a "modern" rpg I'd play stuff like Dragon Age, Oblivion, or any of that crap

If I want to play traditional rpg, I'll play FF.
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Imagine if they drastically changed the rules of any sport just because it's "outdated?"

Imagine if all of a sudden they said "oh, let's make baseball a 5 Innings game since people don't like watching the game for 3 hours."

Seriously, outdated is a word for technology, not something used for game mechanics.

I've moved on anyway, feel sympathy for those who actually bought FFXIII. You have my condolences

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DeathOfChaos
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 12:55:35 PM
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I don't think Wada doesn't know what his fans are saying. I think he wants to turn the FF franchise into a retarded FPS. Or maybe he secretly hates Square-Enix and wants to destroy it?

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marcusfrommo
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:12:18 PM
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ahhh, ff13 was very challenging. you want a traditional rpg, with towns and people to talk to, like getting stuck in huge mazes and castles, HEAVY GRINDING, white knight chronicles. there you go, have fun. oh my gosh, was ff13 refreshing. the western rpg companies, except atlus can't really say that's a traditional rpg. if this was really exclusive, would we really care? hey why wasn't exclusive, can sony lock anything? i think ff13 pictures was on 2007 or 2008 ps3 boxes. even if it's exclusive , there going to sell millions regardless. r u kidding me? i bet in japan, they promoted this like department stores during christmas holidays but months way in advance. as far as consoles game accessories goes, excluding gears, halo, maybe resistance, they had a @#$%load of stuff. who else had a music cd collection 100 dollors, elixer character designed soda cans 150 dollors, character action figures, ff13 jewelery, there ff13 designed console! i've said this before, that alone would guarantee that sony would sell a lot if it's exclusive. they sold a ton of the mgs console bundle. and that wasn't designed. r u telling me that for 400 dollars that wouldn't sell with the game? even if it include a collector's edition game. i'm sorry for ranting, but ff13 had to be the best looking rpg's. except for the full motion video cut scenes, the in game characters matched up darn near perfectly, except for the slight hair variations. and yes, overall, it looked better than god of war 3. that's right i said it. oh, what say you? for you who haven't played it or seen it, i'm being totally serious.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:43:29 PM

Sorry but FFXIII was anything but refreshing. It left a bad taste in just about every Final Fantasy fans mouth.

The game sucked for Final Fantasy and RPG.

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Douchebaguette
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 2:55:26 PM
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It'll be a comical moment when he figures out the problem.


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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 3:59:20 PM
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I believe that Wada's whole problem stems from one major crisis he's having within himself......
he secretly wishes that he was born in Wyoming.


Square Enix CEO Implies Japanese Gaming Industry is Weak

http://www.thealistdaily.com/news/square-enix-ceo-implies-japanese-gaming-industry-is-weak/

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:07:34 PM
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Like I told a guy last night, I think Wada ate some bad Pufferfish.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:22:08 PM
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Final Fantasy Creator Calling it Quits?

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/final-fantasy-creator-calling-it-quits/

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Scarecrow
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 8:54:03 PM

Yeah, I think he left Squeeeenix at the start of FFXII's development.

So he's been out on his own with his own company for a while now.

Blue Dragon was alright, or so I heard.

His latest game, The Last Story, will probably be great. He says he wants to put all his creative skills to make this a great/legendary game. It's for the Wii (told you guys the Wii has some good quality games).

Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Sad to see him retire of this though

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Wage SLAVES
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 4:49:33 PM
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They really are oblivious to the internet huh?

No one seems to like the linearity. As much as people liked the combat I'm sure most would prefer, even by a small margin, the older turn-based system.

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SuMtOnE
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 8:33:13 PM
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SquarEnix needs to go back to their old days and be SquareSoft again. They should look at their sales from the past and see which final fantasy sells the most and that will show what the fans want. =)

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Alienange
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 9:36:35 PM
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Is he completely blind to the fact that FFVII, FFVIII and FFIX are the best selling games on PSN? And have been for a long time now? You can't just release a game and say it's from the makers of FFVII. It needs to be LIKE FFVII or FFVIII.

By all means, add in your high def flash and fantastic CG cut scenes. Just don't release any more action games with the FF name on it.

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Underdog15
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 1:11:09 PM
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Watching this guy is like watching Dora the Explorer... most of the kids watching know exactly where Dora should go, but she spends an annoying amount of time looking at the audience asking the kids what she should do.

No matter how much you might yell at Dora the correct answer, she still doesn't hear you.

This is exactly the same.

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Ravagerfromhell
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 11:06:48 PM
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i completely agree with ben, it def was a great game for the generation but not for ffs. if they would have made it a little more immersive and free froaming i think it prob would have been a game that id play over and over again. this generation of games doesn't have that many rpgs that i want to keep playing over and over again and thats pretty sad considering every other generation. Out of this generations games i would sad my favorite rpg would prob be resonance of fate, it gave good story, good gameply and held me throught it entirely. Wada needs to learn to listen to fans and not what would "make the company prosper" because thats doing what he's doing is obviously the complete opposite of what he thinks it doing

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