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Ninja Theory: Enslaved Isn't A "Knock-Off" Of Anything

While we know Ninja Theory felt inspired by Naughty Dog and their stellar Uncharted series, the Enslaved: Odyssey to the West developers don't like it when you say their game is a "knock-off" of Nathan Drake's adventures.

Granted, one can easily make the comparison, as Enslaved is a colorful action/adventure title with an emphasis on the story and characters, but Ninja Theory co-founder Tameem Antoniades told VideoGamer that even those comparisons can chafe every now and then. Comparisons can set "an expectation." Said Antoniades:

"I think there are similarities, like, just because they're making a cinematic game and we're making a cinematic game. Ico, the comparison is valid because that's one of my favourite games. And Another World on the Amiga was one of my favorite games, and Ico was actually based on Another World. So, there are definite comparisons, but they're comparisons that I'm uneasy with, because it sets an expectation. But those are some of my favorite games and I do want our game to be up there."

He added that Uncharted 2 was sort the first "eureka moment of actually achieving that cinematic quality in an adventure," and they're merely aiming for that same level of quality. But in comparison, he does say his game has plenty of differences; it has its "own twist," it's melee-based while Uncharted is more about third-person shooting, and the "story's unique." In short, he said it's "not a knock-off."

In some cases, like when Tecmo tries to say Quantum Theory isn't a knock-off of Gears of War, we have a tough time believing it. But in this case, after seeing all the footage and reading all the info, we'd have to agree; we don't see Enslaved as being a replica of anything. It falls into a certain category, certainly, but that's about it. And we can't wait to give it a try this fall.

Related Game(s): Enslaved: Odyssey to the West

Tags: enslaved, uncharted, ninja theory, naughty dog

7/27/2010 10:50:02 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (43 posts)

sonic1899
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 11:05:12 AM
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We never thought it was a knock-off of anything. Ninja Theory has definitely lost their grip :/

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 12:31:00 PM

lol

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Swim_Irr
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 1:28:11 PM

He just wanted to let everyone know not to have high 'expectations'.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 3:06:57 PM

Swim is right, they know their multiplat can't compete with U2 in the slightest.

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frostface
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 11:21:44 AM
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I don't know why they keep saying it's not a rip off Uncharted 2 but yet keep making reference to UC2 in every press release (even if they're pretending they don't want it compared). They're most certainly doing some word association games here.
After watching some gameplay footage on YouTube, I would definitely agree that it's not an UC2 rip off...it looks like an OK game but doesn't look anywhere near the quality imo of UC2. I'm gonna wait for the reviews before purchasing this one.
But since we're talking about Ninja Theory, this goes a little off topic but anyway, I had a dream last night that I was playing Heavenly Sword and cleared it. Haven't touched that game in months. Totally came out of nowhere so think I need to clear it sometime over the next few days, at least my subconscious thinks I should. I think I agree!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 3:08:07 PM

I think more than anything else they just want Enslaved and Uncharted 2 to show up on the same news articles so people tie the two together. Especially because 360 only owners don't have anything even closely comparable to U2.

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Oyashiro
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 11:24:28 AM
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People where comparing it to Uncharted? I don't think I heard anyone say that before.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 1:11:54 PM

You must not have been reading the NT staff interviews. They keep comparing it to U2. They're the people. lol

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ro kurorai
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 11:28:53 AM
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Yea, can't imagine why they come up with such assumptions.
Enslaved always looked original to me and it's not like Enslaved's their first "cinematic" game. Heck, HS was released prior to Uncharted and I'd say NT invented "cinematic" games on PS3 while ND perfected them.

It's great to know that NT take ICO and Uncharted as inspiration, though. That way they aim for a certain level of quality which only benefits us gamers =)

I ain't gonna compare Enslaved to Uncharted as they're different games, still my expectations are high as Enslaved's a NT game.

Gonna laugh my a§§ off if Enslaved sells more copies on PS3 than on 360 and NT finally go PS3-exclusive again, just to take a peek at Naughty Dog's tech ^^

Honestly I can't imagine Enslaved selling on 360. They got Reach, Black Ops and Kinect coming out dangerously timely to Enslaved. 360 gamers won't probably care about a lush, vibrant, cinematic third person adventure: They wanna shoot aliens with plastic guns, flail their arms around while "playing" and generally shoot stuff.

Maybe NT realize their mistake afterward and Sony are re-conciliatory enough to take them back. Would be a shame should NT stop making games after another "failure" (less than 1.5mil sales on each console).

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 3:09:48 PM

"pew pew pew" ;)

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 12:32:12 AM

Hey, if Sony are gracious enough to welcome Valve and Gabe Newell to the Sony brand, I'm sure Sony would be more than happy enough to embrace Ninja Theory with open arms as an exclusive developer.

Sounds like Ninja Theory was once the Amish girl doing well on the farm, then going out to explore the world (on different consoles), before returning to the farm where she was at her best and most loved.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 12:05:18 PM
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Like how Heavenly Sword's game play isn't a knock off of God of War?

I kid, i kid. ;)

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ABUrabad
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 5:00:20 PM

I have just checked Heavenly Sword on the web and more than one million copy of the game was already sold by 2008, i just dont know why Ninja Theory is complaining about it .1000000 copy is a respected number at video game sales



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Fane1024
Thursday, July 29, 2010 @ 6:19:05 PM

They use gold leaf toilet paper in their offices.

It makes it really hard to turn a profit, even if your games sell 1.5 million units.

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Kai200X
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 12:18:01 PM
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Based on all the comments I read elsewhere, they are saying this game looks like a mixed between Uncharted 2 + Gears of War + Ico + God of War/Devil May Cry/Bayonetta so yeah it's too many to say it knock off just one game.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 12:33:48 PM
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Ico? Wow I wasn't even thinking that lol

Anyway, they must have not played MGS3/MGS4 if they belief UC2 is the "Eureka" of cinematics.

Sometimes I feel they should just start making films and not video games.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 12:41:40 AM

I reckon they'd be better at it than most filmmakers, writers and directors in the industry.

Inception was the only film to truly "wow" me in the last several years, maybe even since I first saw the Matrix. Yet there are at least 2-3 games every year that 'wow' me with outstanding visuals and an excellent script. Uncharted 2 is at the top of that list.

I certainly hope that Enslaved can hit that same spot. Since NT have worked with the PS3 before, hopefully the PS3 version won't have the screen tearing and framerate / freeze issues that Heavenly Sword had. (Don't get me wrong, Heavenly Sword is a good game, but it did have its issues, and playing it today just frustrates me now that there are heaps better games out there, GoWIII, Uncharted 2, Dante's Inferno, Bayonetta [on 360 for me] and so on)

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JackC8
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 12:37:43 PM
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Some of the platforming stuff in Enslaved seems pretty similar to Uncharted, but that's okay by me. Enslaved looks like an interesting game that will hopefully have good characters, combat, and an engrossing story. The environments I've seen in the trailers look very cool. Too bad the developers seem so self-conscious and put-upon :)

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 12:57:23 PM
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Ninja Theory is reminding me of Turn 10. They seem to lack confidence in their product.

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Swim_Irr
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 1:31:02 PM

Exactly. All I read from the quote was "you'll be disappointed if you expect an uncharted 2 quality game"

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 1:34:57 PM
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I wish that NT would stop telling us what not to think of the game and instead tell us what TO think. I mean, they are constantly telling us that it isn't like this or that, but not once have I read about them telling us what games it is similar to.

I've never considered it a "knock-off", but I have drawn comparisons to ICO in the past, and now they are trying to say that that is wrong, in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. These people confuse me no end. Still be buying it though... probably not close to a D1P though.

Peace.

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kraygen
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 1:36:34 PM

You want ppl to tell you what to think?

lol, sorry couldn't help it.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 1:43:57 AM

Okay, yeah I deserved that...

After a bit of contemplation (and re-reading the article) I realised that I made an error of conception. He isn't telling us not to make these comparisons, just that he doesn't want us to as he thinks it puts more pressure on the game to do well.

I don't see it as setting the world on fire, but I do think that it will be a decent game, and I think the way he is playing it is better, rather than hyping it to hell and having it not quite living up to expectations *cough* GTAIV *cough*.
Peace.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 1:43:58 AM

Sorry, double post.

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kraygen
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 1:35:51 PM
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I really hope they come out with some more statements bashing their own game and telling us not to expect anything, because the last 5 articles about how bad they think it will be wasn't enough.

I'm sorry but if they are making the game and telling us it won't be great, to have low expectations, and not to think about big hit games when we think of it, what should I think?

Oh that's right, what I've been saying, the game probably won't be very good. Hey at least they are telling us before they release it, instead of after. I wouldn't pre order this game and to those that have, better cancel it, because not even the devs like it.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 1:40:20 AM

To be honest, I think that going into things with low expectations is good. It makes it seem that much better when you're actually watching/playing it.
Peace.

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kraygen
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 4:42:21 AM

Maybe as the consumer, not getting your hopes up may keep you from expecting too much, but as the dev if you don't have faith in your game, no one else will either.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 6:11:23 AM

Aye, but how can you be sure that they really do not have faith. This Tameem fella seems to be the only one riding it hard, so maybe he is only trying to put a dampener on the expectations of the consumers? Just because one person is telling us not to expect much doesn't necessarily mean that the rest of the team agrees with him. Am I right?
Peace.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 1:50:07 PM
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It gonna be a good but forgetful game .

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 3:05:24 PM
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It should have been an Odyssey to the East, the West is where games go to die :)

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 3:36:57 PM
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Geeez,
with all the mindless blathering Ninja Theory keeps saying against their own game, I don't what the hell to think about that company.

All I know is, that their game had better be freaking good, and withouta huge babysitting chore, or they're going to wind up having to stick their words right "where the sun don't shine"!!!!!

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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 4:01:48 PM
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lol @ them trying to make a multiplat as good as UC2.

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xxPS3fan24xx
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 5:10:25 PM
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lol its obviously a UC2 rip off but i dont blame them :)

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RebelJD
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 6:48:09 PM
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Let's hope Enslaved doesn't become a disappointment. Here's to another good game for the 4th quarter y'all!

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 7:00:11 PM
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I think it's very hard for games nowadays NOT be a knock-off of anything.

We pretty much been through a lot.

But who knows, look at Heavy Rain.

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dlte
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 7:50:47 PM
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hmmm. i don't know why but this game just doesn't feel like it's going to be any good to me.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 9:16:31 PM
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FFS, is anyone else tired of hearing these guys talk? Just shut up and release your game

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Temjin001
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 10:53:56 PM
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What's with their ultra-lame banner ad on this site? The guy and girl are both sort of hunched over with a disgruntled look on their faces.
"Hey, we have nothing better to do than to go grrrrrrr! Play my game!"

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 @ 11:03:49 PM

lol...

Not the greatest ad ever
Not unique at all

They could have used Flash better

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bentl78
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 2:08:38 AM
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I am actually looking forward to this game. i liked heavenly sword. Although, i know a lot of poeple are unhappy its not exclusive to PS3.. but then.. as most knows its harder for 3rd party studios to make enough $$ with exclusives.
As long as its good, i'll support it. so far i am quite intersted in it

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___________
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 4:16:26 AM
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im still not sure on this one, they have made so many promises but really have not shown anything.
i hate it when developers flap their mouths like a lawn mower, but than show nothing!
as they say talk is cheap!
thats what i love about crytek, they talk the talk than they walk the walk.
as the saying goes why tell you, when i can show you!?
well, ninja theroy, im waiting................

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 @ 6:49:59 PM

NT doesn't understand that showing nothing 'till the last minute will not work for them.

Now they're overflowing game sites with info.

A bit too late...

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___________
Thursday, July 29, 2010 @ 7:57:22 AM

far too late!
im sure they can do it, they proved with heavenly sword they can make a amazing game!
but they really have not showed much off, i mean its been ages since i read a preview or saw a gameplay trailer!
star wars the force unleashed 2 has had more news on it, each month they release a dev diary.

especially 2 months from release, you really need to get your name out in the world.
theres so many games out there competing for everyones money so you need to give your customers a reason to buy your game over theirs.
especially in the month there releasing, there is 5 other games releasing on the same day as enslaved!
why should i buy enslaved over those?

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