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Naughty Dog: Uh, How Could We Go Multiplatform?

Sometimes, it helps if people would simply do their research before spreading rumors. But then again, rumor-mongering is certainly a big draw on the Internet, so it's understandable.

There was a recent hullabaloo concerning some so-called evidence that Naughty Dog was looking for game developers with Xbox 360 experience. This of course sparked dozens of presumptuous forum posts and headlines across the web, all with the purpose of asking, "OMG, will Uncharted 3 be on the 360?!" Well, first of all, Naughty Dog has gone on record many times, saying the 360 simply isn't capable of handling the franchise and if they were to do it, Uncharted would "have to be a very different game." Secondly, the fact of the matter is that Naughty Dog is a second-party designer...there's a difference between that and third-party. This is why the developer's reply to this blow-up was as follows:

"Where is this rumor? Haven’t seen it. We’re also wholly-owned by SCEA since 2001, working on SCE consoles throughout our history."

This much we've known for a while. This much, most gamers should've known. They should also know that titles like Resistance and Ratchet & Clank can't go anywhere without Sony's say-so; hence, Insomniac won't suddenly bring both franchises to the 360 or other platforms, despite their recent announement of a multiplatform project. Simple stuff like this ought to be common knowledge...right?

Tags: naughty dog, multiplatform, uncharted

8/3/2010 8:56:26 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (71 posts)

Mornelithe
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 9:25:07 PM
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It should, but as you say Ben, rumor-mongering creates a big firestorm on the internet. Most media outlets and fanboys alike realize that dropping even the smallest hint of such a possibility will bring in droves of hits.

It's about getting visits these days, for many, not really about reporting factual news. Rather unfortunate, but at least we can keep tabs on who these people are, and never frequent their sites again. There're plenty of better places to get your information from anyway.

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Shams
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:43:26 PM

Either that, or someone just made a snafu with mistaking Insomniac for Naughty Dog. It happens. I checked the ND site, and while they have quite a few job openings, not one description included anything with 360 experience. However, even if one did at some point, since Naughty Dog is wholly owned by Sony (which makes them first party if I'm not mistaken), it would just imply they were looking for any console development experience as a minimum requirement.

Speaking of Insomniac, there's an intro "musical" video on their career page worth checking out. It's pretty funny. Ted Price shows up in it, too. And it shows their new multistory, NC office which is huge! I mean, I know how real estate is relatively cheap over there, but damn. In the video they say their entire office space are is greater than some number of football fields put together. Good for them.

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Metallisnake
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 9:35:41 PM
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xbots need to stop dreaming that naughty dog is going multiplat becuse that quot is correct they have been owned since 2001 and uncharted would be a very diffferent experience on the 360.Naughty dog are pioneers of the video game industry even though i wish they would bring back jak and daxter for the ps3 and finish the series off instead of giving it to another studio.

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shadowscorpio
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:27:17 PM

You wonder why they don't just get a PS3 if the xboxers want these games so much? Its like they constantly need to prove to themselves that the 360 is better than the PS3 but never seem to truly hit the mark. Like they can never be content.

I have both and for me the only reason my 360 have value is because of its exclusive that will never go multiplat. Other than that, I have an unconditional love for my PS3. I'm content with my PS3.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 9:38:34 PM
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Ben, I know all that, you know all that, some of our friends who comment here at PSXExtreme know all that. But, unfortunately there are a large number of people who ill believe any stupid sensational rumor that is reported on the Net. It's worse than the age of tabloid journalism. Tabloid journalism may have been sensationalist, and occasionally libel. But the Internet seems to have magnified that tendency to report first and ask questions later. And the sad, maddening thing is that people swallow the crap hook, line and sinker. It doesn't matter what field of reporting it is, people will believe any old crap. It doesn't even have to make sense a long as it is marginally plausible, or panders to the views of the majority believing it.

I occasionally reply to folks with the phrase Hyperbole is no substitute for thought. That has never been more true. I mean, I must have pointed out that Naughty Dog is owned by Sony more than two dozen times in the last year just here at PSX Extreme.

Once again, I shall say it.

Hyperbole is no substitute for thought - or research, or common sense, or paying attention to your peers.

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 9:48:06 PM
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I wish they owned them before 2001 so Crash would still be the great franchise it was.

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BeezleDrop
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 9:53:07 PM
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I guess it is odd that I never even heard the ridiculous multi=platform rumor.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 9:57:53 PM
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Those who believe in this crap just never do their homework.

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Alienange
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 10:13:41 PM
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Funny, the xbots think PS3 exclusives are crap but if it's coming to the 360 then all of a sudden it's pant dropping news. Are the 360 news sites THAT desperate for hits these days? Those Kinect articles aren't getting any attention? I say stop writing garbage and buy yourself a PS3 already.

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 10:23:25 PM

All of a sudden their halo reach isn't the macho of videogames, huh?

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ace_boon_coon
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:19:55 PM

we all know if their console could play uncharted (on 5 discs that is), it would cause their xboxes to spontaneous combust. it's way too graphically superior to what they're used to.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:59:30 PM

Pant-dropping? Don't you mean "jaw-dropping"?

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tes37
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 10:36:16 PM
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This rumor is laughable, like xbot humor-mongering. They're just trying to make us laugh after being so rude to us in the past.

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gangan19
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 10:42:42 PM
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Joke of the year!!!

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, August 03, 2010 @ 10:51:17 PM
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Not surprised one bit. I can't believe the desperation of some of the 360 crowd.

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SvenMD
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 12:39:49 PM
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You always want what you can't have.

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RadioHeader
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:18:50 PM

I'm quite pleased I can't have Halo, and I'm very enthusiastic about not being able to have kinect :)

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sirbob6
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 2:46:58 PM

You know that I've always wanted a RRoD and scrached discs. ;)

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Xombito
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:11:02 PM
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And for those who may have forgot or is a new PS3 fan. Guerilla Games, Media Molecule, Incog (if they're still around) and Evolution Studios are also all wholly own by Sony. So, the Killzone series, LBP series, Motorstorm games and whatever Incog makes are all 100% exclusive as well. And yes please do the research on these devs should any ludicrous rumors sprout about.

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sirbob6
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:25:07 PM

You forgot about Polyphony, Bigbig, and Zipper. Also Incog made Warhawk and all the old Twisted Metals.

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Bugzbunny109
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:12:21 PM
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"hullabaloo" :D lol nice one Ben.

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DcIronfist
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:17:39 PM
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This makes me glad i do not frequent these rumor sites :) Why would anyone need to go anywhere but here for news?

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ace_boon_coon
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:21:56 PM
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i wonder what destructoid though about this rumor?

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:34:49 PM
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A quick question: If Naughty Dog is wholly owned by SCEA, does that not make them first party devs?

Some people will believe anything. Do they not realise that the SCE logo on the box means that Sony published the game, which means that they own the rights to it. Sure, they may sell it off to a third-party but with how lucrative the Uncharted franchise is, do you really expect them to do so. It's like someone saying that Halo is going multiplatform. Not going to happen.

It's times like these that I legitimately feel like giving up on the masses.
Peace.

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Orvisman
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 10:00:28 AM

You're right. They are first-party devs. Ben has it wrong.

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Fane1024
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 6:22:20 PM

Just because a publisher (in this case, SCEA) publishes a game does not necessarily mean they have the rights to the IP.

For instance, Microsoft published Mass Effect, but it never had the rights to the IP, which were always held by BioWare.

Likewise, SCEJ published Demon's Souls in Japan, Atlus published it in N.A., and Namco-Bandai published it in Europe. Sometimes publishing deals are just the rights to publish someone else's property.

SCEA do own both Naughty Dog and Uncharted, however.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:45:09 PM
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I wonder how much MS has paying their buffoons to "astroturf" those sites with all their unbelievable bullsh!t.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 2:30:27 PM

When you say "astroturf" it reminds me of that hag Nancy Pelosi when she said it. You just ruined my birthday! ;)

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gangan19
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 1:46:14 PM
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Going multi-plat would just decrease all aspects of this game, leave it well enough alone, either stay away or get the system for the game like everyone else does.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 7:45:41 PM

MyWorstNightmar, Well, H.B. to you!
(well, what's left to it, anyways).

Damn, I'm guessing then, you won't be wanting that pic of Nancy, I had especially autographed to ya.

Iffin' ya want, I'll go check and sss if Biden's still in his "publicity hound" mode, for a few of his wallet sized 100 by 85's.

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gangan19
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 7:49:31 PM

Nancy who?and what you talking about i'm lost?

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godsman
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 2:37:47 PM
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This kind of nonsense is, somewhat a kind of flattery.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 2:41:10 PM
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Well, the rumor was that Naughty Dog is/was looking for developers with 360 experience. I didn't see Naughty Dog deny that, they just denied that they were going multiplat. Not sure why they would be looking for 360 experienced developers though.

In other words, this might be a true rumor, but for different reasons than we can imagine. I once heard a President claim "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", and we all know how that turned out.

Not trying to stir up trouble, but if Ben has given us everything Naughty Dog has said in response to this whole fiasco, then they haven't addressed the original rumor have they?

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ace_boon_coon
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:23:22 PM

nah UC2 sold way too much from them to want to go multiplat. they know where their grass is green at.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:43:19 PM

cochise, I wasn't insinuating that they are going to secretly go multiplat. I take them at their word, they said they won't. But they never disputed that they tried, or are trying to hire 360 developers. That could be true, and the obvious assumption is because they want to go multiplat, but they say no, so I wonder why they were trying to hire them?

Basically, if they didn't address the original rumor, but just addressed the logical assumption people made regarding the original rumor, then I will assume the original rumor is true.

FOR EXAMPLE... National Enquirer says MyWorstNightmar is having sex with Kim Kardashian, and now Kim is pregnant. Now if I come out and say "that is false, Kim is NOT pregnant". I didn't address the first statement, leading you to believe it is true.

I should probably state for the record, I have not had sex with Kim Kardashian yet.

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Shams
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:53:49 PM

If ND did post such a job description asking for 360 experience, it is only because they were asking for any console development as a minimum requirement, because ND is wholly-owned by Sony. After Jan'01, they were acquired by Sony, which means they are first party. Which means the only way they would go multiplatform, is if Sony decided to go multiplatform (which is impossible, ofcourse), or if the good staff at ND left their jobs and started a new company, kind of like the Activision/Infinity Ward/Respawn fiasco (which is also kinda an impossiblity as Sony actually appreciates their own talent).

So the rumor is either misinterpretation of said facts, blatant xbot propaganda, or an innocent snafu confusing ND for Insomniac.

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Rings of Uranus
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:55:48 PM

It is I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E for ND to go multiplat. Unless Sony decides to start making games for Microsoft systems...and I don't think Sony's that generous.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 4:35:37 PM

Oh hey Tao you're back! :D Haven't seen you around in a while.

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Rings of Uranus
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 5:42:24 PM

How's it going good guy? I've been pretty busy the past few weeks. Did you get Continuum Shift yet? It's extremely awesome, meow! :)

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 1:34:49 AM

I like the way that yout wrote yet after your statement about having sex with Kim Kardashian. Gave me something to laugh about today.
Peace.

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WolfCrimson
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 2:28:50 AM

I'm getting it soon, don't worry ;) Can't wait to play it.

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Fane1024
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 6:32:21 PM

Just a thought about why they might want someone with experience on the 360:

Maybe, in addition to their own games, they're porting something FROM 360 to PS3 (e.g., an XBLA game) and want one of their people to know the ins and outs of the 360 to make the process easier.

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Mamills
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 2:58:24 PM
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lol, wait sum1 started this rumor?
ahhahaha

yea SONY Owns ND along with Guerrilla and media molecule.

lol

u want, killzone, uncharted or LBP2?

BUY A PS3 B1tches!

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:04:00 PM
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No way!

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kraygen
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:20:23 PM
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They have to find something exciting to discuss, even if they have to make it up.

Silly xbots. Uncharted is for gamers.

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Vidius
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:29:52 PM

I completly agree. Xbots will do anything to make it appear tht their sys is better than than the ps3. Just how desperate r they?

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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:26:41 PM
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**********WARNING*********
STRONG LANGUAGE

X-Box can go Fuck Themselves. :D

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 3:45:48 PM

My eyes are stinging from just having read that.

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Alienange
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 5:33:51 PM

Too many asterisks?

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 4:06:32 PM
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Just a small point, and one that probably has no bearing on Naughty Dog's future exclusivity. However, Sony does make games for PCs. Sony is bigger and goes beyond PlayStation games. So it's not beyond the real of possibility that Sony could develop a game for multiple platforms - including the Xbox.

I'm not saying they would, but please understand, Sony has business other than PlayStation. Sony Computer Entertainment includes the PlayStation division, but also PC games and online games.

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Shams
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 4:41:18 PM

While it is true SOE (Sony Online Entertainment) does and has done PC development (EverQuest 1 & 2, Free Realms, and yet-to-be-released The Agency, etc), but, of course, PC market isn't a direct competitor of the Playstation brand, nor is it comparable in terms of customer base (as of 2007, SOE's total subscriber base for ALL their games was 680,000, not sure what it is now). So, in other words, multiplatform development is possible, such as the Agency being both on PC and PS3 which seems to be the case, but I think you'd agree that it would be outside the realm of possibility that Sony would develop anything for the 360.

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 8:55:54 PM

I'll agree that it's essentially impossible that Sony would take any of their highly acclaimed, top selling exclusives and bring them to another platform.

A less popular, less well known title? An MMORPG? There is an extremely slim sliver of a chance that Sony Online might, if the planets align and the world unites under one government, possibly consider thinking about the concept of putting a piece of software on the 360.

How's that?

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Shams
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 10:05:52 PM

Lol! I do agree!

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jdt1981
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 8:40:02 PM
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I thought it was common knowledge that Naughty Dog was a first party studio owned by Sony... Uncharted will be released on the 360 the same day Halo is released on the PS3, in other words never...

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 8:56:20 PM

Halo is on BluRay you know...


::flees::

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jdt1981
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 9:07:50 PM

Yeah, I forgot about that. And when the Uncharted movie comes out 360 owners will be able to play Uncharted on the 360, the DVD version of course not Blu-Ray. LOL

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A2K78
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 8:47:03 PM
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Its impossible for ND to go multiplatform and why? When Sony bought the company they bought a 100% stake in the company, that compared to MSFT how only bought a controlling stake in Bungie rather than the company outright.

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 8:58:16 PM

I think Bungie had the option to divest themselves of Microsoft, they wanted out and Microsoft felt that they could take the Halo IP to another developer who had a better attitude.

Naughty Dog is more of a wholly owned subsidiary than anything else, I don't think that they have the option to do that, not that Sony would want them to. Unlike Microsoft, Sony appears to value their developers.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 9:24:37 PM
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So desperate

Just buy a ps3 and level up to true next-gen already.

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 10:11:00 PM

LOL, you just told the entire Xbox nation to "Man up."

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RebelJD
Wednesday, August 04, 2010 @ 9:28:51 PM
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Naughty Dog :)

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ps3sownsxbox360
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 1:56:13 AM
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if naughty dog went multiplat. uncharted3 would really suck compared to uncharted 2. it would have crappy graphics and way shorter story line.But i do not think they will do that,

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___________
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 3:45:53 AM
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yes, yes we have all heard the cock and bull story of ps3 games not being possible on the 360.
well may i point you to crysis 2?
well, there goes that PR BS!
same as the 360 cant do 3D again i point you to crysis 2.
shame it wont be out till next year, i saw red and almost literally exploded when i saw that!
figures the one game out of hundreds releasing this year, the only one that i was really interested for is the only one that gets delayed!
it could not be a game i dont give a sh*t about like vanquish, or MoH, or COD black ops.
no, it had to be the sequel, to one of the best games ever released!
buy me a Ferrari, than have it spontaneously combust why dont ya!

though common sense would tell you its not possiable, though common sense is something people are seriously lacking these days!
how can ND work on a 360 game when there owned by sony?
yea, sony are going to let one of their most famous titles go on the competitors machine.
i remember reading a article a few weeks ago saying mario might end up on the ps3 or 360, again yea right ninty are going to let one of their most famous titles on another platform!
its like Ferrari saying here is all our tech were using in our F1 cars today, enjoy and hopefully you can put it to better use than what we did!

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Highlander
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 1:55:44 PM

Dude, you need to learn to relax more. Perhaps some fresh air and sunshine?

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___________
Friday, August 06, 2010 @ 9:33:09 AM

its hard to relax when your running around like a headless chook trying to get things done!
plus theres no such thing as sunshine here, for the last 3 weeks its been raining cats and dogs!
surprised we have not had a flood, or a blackout yet!

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Amazingskillz
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 8:09:27 AM
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Forget the quality dropoff of going to the 360, if ND somehow magically went multiplat with UC3 it would feel like a scorching hot dagger straight through the heart. That would be worse then anakin slicing windu's hand off and joining the emperor. I mean, I have a special satisfaction knowing that we in the PS3 family have a game that's freakin off the charts (no pun intended) and none of those other consoles have it.

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Orvisman
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 10:03:17 AM

Don't fear. It's not going to happen. Sony owns Naughty Dog. Read the article again.

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Orvisman
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 10:02:06 AM
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Ben, they are first-party devs.

Insomniac and Sucker Punch are second-party devs.

I've been calling for Sony to buy Insomniac for years before Price took them multiplat; so Sony better buy Sucker Punch before it, too, goes multiplat -- without Infamous, of course, because Sony owns that franchise.

Hell, Insomniac has been a second-party dev since its Disruptor days on the PS1, as has Sucker Punch since Sly 1 on the PS2; so I don't know why Sony didn't buy them both when it bought Naughty Dog.

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Highlander
Thursday, August 05, 2010 @ 1:55:00 PM

Perhaps ND were willing to be acquired and Insomniac and others are not?

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Orvisman
Friday, August 06, 2010 @ 7:43:24 AM

Oh, I know that. But money speaks. Hence the transition to multiplat.

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Robochic
Friday, August 06, 2010 @ 12:59:47 PM
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ND will never sell out to other platforms even if they weren't owned by Sony. They see the success of the PS3 and are smack happy with their success with their games.

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