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2K Responds To Claims That Mafia II PS3 Is Graphically Inferior

Although the dark days of frequent inferior ports on the PlayStation 3 are behind us, every once in a while, a multiplatform effort falls a little short on Sony's machine.

The latest appears to be Mafia II. Although supposedly optimized for each of the three major platforms - PS3, Xbox 360, and PC - reports of lesser visual polish and detail in the PS3 version have begun to surface. Multiple sources are saying both the PC and 360 versions look better in terms of clarity and ambient effects, and such complaints haven't gone unnoticed by 2K. If you check the publisher's forums, it seems a PR spokesperson has responded with the following post:

"When designing Mafia II, we optimized for each of the three different systems the game would run on to make sure the core experience was the best it could be. Because of this, there are some differences from one platform to the next. In terms of the PS3 version, I wanted to clarify a couple points you have been asking about: There will not be highly detailed grass or large pools of blood, the cloth movement is less noticeable than, for example, the PC version, and the visual fidelity in the demo is generally representative of what you’ll see in the full game.

Our aim is to make a cohesive and immersive experience and optimize the game for each platform so that it could run its best. And while there are some differences between each version, I’m sure you’ll find that the core gameplay and the heart of Mafia II remains no matter whether you play on PS3, 360, or PC."

That's a fair explanation but we do have one question: if we consider that the PS3 is superior in terms of technical capability and raw power (at least in comparison to the 360), how can an "optimized" version of a multiplatform game come up lacking in so many areas? 2K typically produces multiplatform titles that are indeed pretty darn similar on all platforms so perhaps the real explanation is this: Mafia was a series originally designed for PC, which translates easier to the 360's architecture. Guess it's that simple.

We'll take a look at the PS3 version when it arrives at our doorstep. Graphics aren't everything, so if the gameplay manages to be engrossing, we'll still recommend it. If not...oh well.

Related Game(s): Mafia II

Tags: mafia ii, 2k games, mafia ii ps3

8/16/2010 8:44:00 PM John Shepard

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Comments (141 posts)

Zemus101
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:14:51 PM
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Ew, this is still going on, eh? Bah, just stick to 90% exclusives. I think for the rest of the year the only multiplatform PS3 game I'll be playing is Fallout new Vegas, then it's LBP2 near the end of the year. Next year is InFamous2 and FFXIV so far. It's not often that a multiplatform comes out that I'm extremely excited for. I think my last one was Borderlands.

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Sancho
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 6:13:59 AM

Borderlands would be a lie Zemus, it was Red Dead Redemption. I'm with you however, Fallout: New Vegas is the only multiplatform title I'm interested in any time soon. Although I still need to get the Game of the Year edition of FO:3 so that I can play all the add on stuff.

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Jawknee
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:36:44 PM
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I played the demo. The graphics are fugly and there is a lot of screen tearing. I'm passing on this. Not paying for inferior versions of games anymore.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:12:23 PM

Damn right! They can shove their inferior crap up their ass.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:14:02 PM

So it's a collective ass?

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kraygen
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:35:48 PM

Really? I played the demo several times. I didn't have any screen tearing and the graphics looked a little above average for a multiplat.

I really enjoyed the demo, not sure what all the fuss is about.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:29:32 AM

A little above average? I haven't played this, yet, but that comment is laughable. For a game that has had that much time in development, I would hope that it is more than "just above average". I'm not judging this game. Not interested.

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kraygen
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:59:40 AM

fluffer

Your comment doesn't make much sense. Since when does a games development length have anything to do with it's graphics quality?

It's a multiplat game, with graphics above the average multiplat game, why is that laughable?

It has been in development for an average amount of time from what I understand. So why so much dissent when you admit you have not played it. If you haven't played it how can you even know what you're talking about?

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:09:23 AM

Don't put a thumb down if you don't understand it. I'm sorry but I'm not in the mood to explain (read: do not want to be rude) it as it was a very simple post. I apologize if you were confused.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:58:49 AM

The company has a single ass, while each individual working there has their own ass within the company ass.

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Bandit King
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:19:50 AM

Yes when I downloaded the PS3 demo I could not believe what I was looking at (though Star Ocean on PS3 looks pretty bad too). This game looks like a relic from 2007, on a similar level as Ghostbusters. Its really a shame but EA outsourced the PS3 version to a studio that had ZERO PS3 experience. They are called Massive Bear studios. See the link here: http://www.massivebear.com/mbport.html

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Alienange
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:20:58 PM

Yeah kraygen, don't you know foolish posts are allowed as long as you don't have time to explain them?

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Kai200X
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:15:43 PM

I'm sort of glad I didn't pre-order this game, but I think I will pick it up eventually.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:28:55 PM

Alienange, my post was extremely simple. If you can't understand it, then we go back to your other posts.

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pillz81
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:16:40 PM

Some people can't understand some of the simplest comments. It happens.

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Alienange
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:37:10 PM
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They might as well have said "don't buy the PS3 version because we didn't know what the hell we were doing with the PS3 hardware."

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:12:47 PM

I knew we would agree on something eventually.

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Jawknee
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:24:33 PM

Ha, me too.

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Alienange
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:24:54 PM

I'm surprised 2k isn't completely embarrassed by their comment.

"You get to play with stickmen, but the gameplay is the same so give us $60."

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GuardianMode
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:37:21 PM
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Another mutiplat falling short ......go figure. There are only a handful of 3rd party devs that can do the system justice and 2K seems not to be one.

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556pineapple
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:37:23 PM
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I smell laziness disguised in the perfume of optimization. I'm not buying their excuse, and I'm not buying their game.

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tes37
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:38:32 PM
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I may have to optimize my wallet to exclude any developers who can't grasp the ps3.

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Scarecrow
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:47:06 PM

That's what I did with FFXIII, excluded that MISTAKE out of my list.

So yes, I actually do that a lot with games which don't deserve my money, Bayonetta for example.

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tes37
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:59:18 PM

I wish I had passed on FFXIII myself. It was a disappointment when expecting an rpg.

Is this a 2K thumb down fairy this time? I hope so, because that's all I want from them.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:16:26 PM

I just wish I had waited and paid a great deal less for FFXIII. Bayonetta, however, wasn't worth the 30 bucks I did pay. Though that had nothing to do with the PS3 version being not as good.

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ro kurorai
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:43:06 PM
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Couldn't care less about Mafia 2. The only thing that impressed me in the demo were the PB pin-ups and that's really sad.
Controls feel sluggish, button mapping is atrocious and it doesn't show anything new to the genre.
RDR fulfills all my open-world sandbox gaming needs so far.

The PC demo didn't convince me either, even though it featured better controls and graphics.

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oONewcloudOo
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:47:30 PM
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well i wont be getting it anymore.. poor ports like this shouldnt be rewarded

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Jalex
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:47:54 PM
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Has anybody actually checked up on this themselves? Because I heard this on the forums a couple days ago, and I immediately downloaded the demos for the PC and 360.
The PC version was, quite unsurprisingly, the superior of the three, but I saw no difference between the PS3 and 360 versions. Certainly no extra-detailed grass or larger pools of blood (which ARE present in the PC version).

So I ask again:
Did anybody here actually see the different versions on their respective platforms and not just compare screenshots?

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Alienange
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:10:39 PM

Looking at screenshots was good enough for me. If it was a mistake on my part to do so, then let 2K publish photos of what the PS3 version will look like. Oh but they didn't did they? No. They decided to make a statement to confirm that their PS3 skills are not ... mad.

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Jalex
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:22:47 PM

All they said was that the PS3 version would not retain some of the fine detail of the PC version. The 360 version was not even brought up.

You and several others here have basically declared that your minds are already made up, and no facts will get in your way.
Where is the open-mindedness?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:25:23 PM

A 360 is basically a stripped down PC, so yeah they are gonna run very similar.

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Alienange
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:28:05 PM

Are you reading what I'm reading? It's right there in the article. He specifically singles out the PS3 version as seriously lacking in details. I didn't make up that comment, 2K did. My open mind absorbed the comment and quickly spit it back out.

You buy it. You play it. Then tell me if it was good. I promise to read your review.

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Jalex
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:31:52 PM

@WorldEndsWithMe:

A fact that doesn't really have anything to do with this specific issue since, as I've already said, all 2K have stated is that the PS3 version isn't quite as detailed as the PC version.
They never concede that the 360 version is superior, and having seen all the demos myself, I can say that there are no notable differences between the console versions (especially the ones pointed out in the 2K statement).

What bothers me most with the posts here is that nobody seems to have seen the versions in question for themselves, and are apparently basing their opinions merely on what others have stated.

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Jalex
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:39:41 PM

@Alienange:

Three things are pointed out as being not as detailed on the PS3 version as on the PC version, none of the three making or breaking the visuals.
And 'seriously lacking' are your words, not theirs. So no, it's not right there in the article.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:02:55 AM

Well, I was never interested in the game to begin with, but to base ones opinions on what the actual COMPANY who publishes the game is saying should be allowed. The fact that they didn't mention the 360 version insinuates that yes, it will have more detail since the PS3 was singled out as the crappy version.

Remember, these are the publishers of the game, it's their job to sell it. And even they are saying it is inferior to the others.

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Jalex
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:37:56 AM

@WorldEndsWithMe:

You're using what the statement DIDN'T say to mean what you want it to mean.
It seemed very direct to me, but everyone's injecting the 360 into the equation when it wasn't even brought up in the publisher's statement.

From your apparent viewpoint, 'Batman: Arkham Asylum' on the PS3 was the 'crappy' version since the PC version had a Nvidia PhysX boost (just like 'Mafia II'), so I guess every PS3 owner should have stayed away from such inferiority.


Ben, what do you think?
I know you don't really care for 'Mafia II', but I don't think my argument is unreasonable and the vast majority seem to be against me.

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ro kurorai
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 3:03:01 PM

here's some proof to support our 'close-mindedness'

360: http://img1.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/safe-misc-vii/mafia-1-360.png

PS3: http://img3.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/safe-misc-vii/mafia-1-ps3.jpg

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:31:33 PM

Jalex, you just got pwned. Give it up.

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Jalex
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 1:40:39 AM

@ ro kurorai & WorldEndsWithMe:

Those screenshots do not accurately depict the game (you can clearly tell the PS3 one is a lower quality image than the first).
As I've already said, I've seen all three demos in motion and the PS3 version looks nothing like the screenshots going around. What is essentially propaganda from what I assume is an anti-PS3 individual or group started this whole thing, and what's even worse is that so many PS3 owners have bought into it without checking the facts for themselves.

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Jian2069
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 1:41:05 AM

ro kurorai's post made me cry

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Scarecrow
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:48:43 PM
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Isn't this just a GTA spin-off?

Anyway can't wait for the Tokyo Game Show and then the bombs in November. Those 2 games in November will once again showcase the ps3's true power.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:18:41 PM

Not a spinoff as much as a ripoff focused exclusively on Mafia activities.

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main_event05
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:30:13 PM

Prepare to ignore your wives and children, TGS is gonna leave a lot of jaws on the floor. A bit off topic I know, but like I said a while back, TGS 2010 is gonna be huge. I have feeling that we're gonna see that FF VII remake, I'll bet my PS3 on that.

I'm super excited already.

Also, maybe this will be the year we get that Chuck Norris/ Mr. T Double Dragon.

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kraygen
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:40:45 PM

actually mafia and mafia 2 while both sandbox style games are about the mob and calling them gta spin offs or copies is no different than calling infamous, rdr, and fallout 3, copy cats.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:05:29 AM

Okay main_event, I'll take that bet. I could use a second PS3 around here anyway. There will be NO FFVII remake announced at TGS.

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main_event05
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:09:40 PM

Ok. And if FF VII is announced, I want to add your katana to my collection.

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King James
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:55:19 PM
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Graphics were fine. Its the gameplay I'm always concerned with. The targeting left me with a feelin that something was missing. But I was impressed by the lvl of detail that demo had. Mafia2 been on my radar for a while and its still must play in my book.

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Highlander
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:57:03 PM
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So the game is a PC port which as you point out unsurprisingly has an easier time translating to the 360 architecture since Microsoft has done everything in it's power to bring the 360 development environment as close as it can to the PC environment.

You have to wonder though precisely how hard they worked on optimizing the PS3 version. Seems like perhaps they made the pretty stupid mistake of assuming that they could be lazy and instead of developing for the PS3 in parallel, they could bring the PS3 in as a johnny come lately port. Dumb.

I though that we were past this absolute stupidity. What's bad though is that instead of castigating the developer for doing a half ass job on the PS3 version, many reviewers will trot out the same old crap about the PS3 being somehow inferior because of this.

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Xombito
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:01:53 PM
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I knew it was an inferior the moment I saw it without comparison (though when I did it was only to the PC version). The thing the struck me the most was the complete lack of anti-alaising. I think they knew it was inferior because they're giving us the exclusive extra content. Kinda like what Rockstar did with RDR, though to a lesser degree.

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kraygen
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:44:41 PM

How can you call something inferior to something you've never seen? Regardless of this games quality on any system, your statement lacks intellect.

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Superman915
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:03:29 PM
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yeah i wont be getting this. shame too. has some damn good music.

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Deleted User
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:13:11 PM

Yes, the music is superb. I listed all the songs for somebody at another website.

I'm not getting this until I finish RDR and The Ballad Of Gay Tony. Honestly, this didn't surprise me. A PC game looking inferior on the PS3? Where have I heard this before?

Most games nowadays look and play fine on all three platforms but sadly, we still have the likes of Mafia II.

I thought the 360 demo was good but not enough for me to buy it on Day One. Haven't tried the PS3 demo yet.

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maxpontiac
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:03:58 PM
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There really is no wonder on why I am closing in on purchasing only PS3 exclusive titles.

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Deleted User
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:14:58 PM

Fortunately, they are a-plenty and are all great games that take advantage of the power of the PS3.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 8:48:21 AM

My thoughts exactly. Almost every single genre is covered that I enjoy.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:04:03 PM
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What an interesting way to say "We are so lazy and poor at what we do that we still don't understand the PS3 architecture." Glad I'm not interested in Meh-fia II.

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Xombito
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:14:47 PM
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After the GTA games I'm tired of these types of titles. I did like the atmosphere but like World said, meh. I'm tired of the whole New York mafia stuff. GTA games, the Godfather movies, the Sopranos. After all that I'm cool.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:22:06 PM

Yeah it's wearing thin isn't it? I will get the next GTA at a much lower price.

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Deleted User
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:16:01 PM
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BTW, how about that YT video of Nolan North talking to Nolan North in the Mafia II demo? Crazy stuff.

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Kangasfwa
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:08:35 AM

The video clip in question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpRkT9JxdnE&feature=youtu.be

And some funny commentary...
http://www.cad-comic.com/sillies/

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BikerSaint
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:18:18 PM
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I'm going to "optimize" my brainware into getting the PS3 copy of Mafia 2.

But I'm only optimizing it to grab M2 out of the under $20 USED bargain bin about 6 months after the PS3 version releases.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:24:13 PM
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Sooooo..... who can't wait for L.A. Noire?

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Deleted User
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:27:28 PM

I'm waiting for Agent since it won't be bottlenecked by other consoles or the PC.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:05:53 AM

Agent is probably gonna be a couple more years.

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Oxvial
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:47:45 PM
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I dont care about the graphs , the gameplay was sh** and the camera eeeww , never played a Mafia game before this one leaves me a bad impression .

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bruno_py
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:54:02 PM
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What a disapointment... I found the city really nice. I read somewhere they were using some extra technologies on the PC version, and I think a high-end Pc up to dat has extra some advantage. But again, having played games like uncharted 2 makes wonder how a developer could not make an extra effort to make it look as good as possible on the ps3.I just own a ps3, so maybe I'll get it.

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Temjin001
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 10:57:25 PM
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There are few multi-platform games that have actually been better on PS3. I'll create a quick list of games that I KNOW are better on PS3, VISUALLY.

*Oblivion (higher res, more detailed shaders, better draw distance)

*Darksiders (because of higher FMV quality)

*Final Fantasy XIII (higher res, better FMV compression, less frame-rate issues at Gran Pulse)

*Bionic Commando (better lighting. though, a bit lower framerate occasionally)

*Dragon Age (PS3= better graphics detail, but a more unstable framerate)

When including the near same game ports.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 and Ridge Racer 7 both look better than their similar 360 siblings.

Aside from a handful of crappier, less known, and lower rated games that's about it. Most 360 multi-platform games tend to visually edge out the PS3 versions in some way, or another. It's a sad truth, but lately, differences have been pretty minimal with 360 games enjoying maybe a slight edge in anti-aliasing.


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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:42:54 AM

The PS3 version of Burnout Paradise was visually better. The 360 version suffered more stutter.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:50:45 AM

I've been wanting to test the 360 version of Burnout. I own the PS3 version and I've compared it only to the 360 demo, and, yes, the 360 demo would stutter upon entering newer zones. I found it odd that I hadn't read this discrepancy from any reviews or analysis sites (Digital Foundry included) so I chalked it up to being early demo code inconstancies.

Either way, good call, Highlander

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:50:11 AM

Both games would stream the world data from disc. On the PS3 version you could (with boost and the right circumstances) go fast enough that the streaming wouldn't keep up and it would stutter. Criterion added a disc caching feature to allow the game to cache the world data to the HDD (if one was present on the 360), and that helped a lot. But the 360 version of that still had a few issues when going from area to area in the game.

Don't get me wrong, I am by no means saying that the 360 game was bad, but the PS3 was the lead platform for Criterion on Burnout Paradise and it shows. That said, I believe that the PC version has just about every bell and whistle you can think of and higher resolution to boot. So if you really like the game, and have the hardware, the PC version might be worth a look for fun.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:15:03 PM
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That PR guy should be fired because that statement didn't address any of the comments about the visual aspect of the game.

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bamf7295
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:27:02 PM
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im so glad i have ps3, 360 and a high end PC. i dont have to worry about things like this or argue about them...its good to be and adult and make your own money

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LittleBigMidget
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:45:22 PM
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I thought I would share this video with you guys, and its a shame to see the PS3 get shafted...AGAIN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pwJ4xv_K5s&feature=channel

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Jawknee
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:35:29 AM

The moron kept dinging the ps3 version for lower black levels. He probably hasthe RBG set to limited. Set it to full and it clears that problem right up.

I'm so sick of these tools on the web who make these comparisons. Even if the PS3 version is clearly better they still give it to the Xbox.

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FxTales
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:51:22 PM
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So the PR guy responded by validating the reports that it is in fact an inferior version? Yeah ok I think I'll vote with my wallet on this one and say nay.

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kraygen
Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 11:58:10 PM
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I'm really surprised. I had been hearing these rumors and I'm a little shocked by the stance a lot of people here at psx are taking. It's obvious that lots of you commenting haven't played the demo's or seen any footage of the game.

I played the demo for the ps3 version several times. After hearing this rumor I watched several video's of 360 and pc gameplay of the same demo.

Not surprisingly the pc version is far superior to the console versions. Anyone surprised by that has obviously not been paying attention with previous multiplat releases.

After several video's and playing the demo myself, I see no difference between the 360 and ps3 version.

Both have above average graphics for a multiplat game. The handling on the ps3 version is typical of any sandbox game I've played. The car damage is superior to any other sandbox game I've ever seen, when you can lose each individual hubcap that's pretty cool.

I enjoyed the demo, it wasn't perfect, but it wasn't what a lot of people are going on about either. I'm surprised not by the 360 fanboyish rumors, but by the fact that so many psxer's ate it up so easily and start bashing the game they have no actual experience with.

Sorry, but after the months I've spent reading and commenting with this community, I've come to expect more from it. Been a little let down today, but it had nothing to do with mafia 2.

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tes37
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:26:07 AM

It's really about time for all games to look inferior on the xbox. If they don't look inferior then that's all the proof needed that says, no you did not optimize for the ps3 except to make it match the xbox to keep from hurting Bill Gates' ego.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:27:35 AM

Head to the forums. It's much better in there. Less traffic but better interactions.

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Jalex
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:52:26 AM

@kraygen:

I feel the same way.
The PSXExtreme community and I don't always agree, but almost everyone who posted here seems to be embodying all the things we collectively complain about in other sites.

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kraygen
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:03:10 AM

@ TES37

I'm not saying that they couldn't have pushed the ps3 version more, but it's not inferior to the 360 version either.

I've seen very very few multiplat games that look better on ps3 than they do on 360, most devs try to make them as equal as possible.

I was simply trying to point out that these versions are equal and yet before people even look and see for themselves they are falling prey to the 360 fanboy claims.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:00:17 AM

Kraygen,

I'm basing my opinion on the words quoted as coming from the folks behind the game. They openly acknowledge a visual inferiority with the PS3 version.

Now granted I have not played the demo, and probably won't, but when the publisher openly admits that the PS3 version is visually inferior to other versions of the game, what opinion am I supposed to form?

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kraygen
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:55:31 AM

Highlander

the company says it is inferior to the pc version, never does it say it is inferior to the 360 version.

All games that are sold on pc, 360, and ps3 have a noticeable difference when you compare the pc version to the other 2. This is no different. He compares the pc version to the ps3 version. He doesn't say one way or the other whether the 360 will have those specific details, but if you watch 360 gameplay vids it is obvious it doesn't have them either.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:37:37 AM

Indeed, however the context of the remarks was addressing the point that the PS3 version is supposedly inferior in graphical terms to the 360 version. Why acknowledge visual inferiority of the PS3 version compared to anything in that context if there was none?

I also took this quote into account, "And while there are some differences between each version, I’m sure you’ll find that the core gameplay and the heart of Mafia II remains no matter whether you play on PS3, 360, or PC."

Without directly addressing the issue of a 360/PS3 comparison, the spokes-critter acknowledged that the PS3 version does have some graphical shortcomings to the PC version. They also acknowledge differences between the PS3 version and 360 version, but stress that the game play remains the same.

Despite the context being the discussion of the PS3 version compared to the nearest competitor - the 360 version, the spokesperson studiously avoided saying anything about that. It would have been far easier to say that there was no meaningful difference between the two, but instead, the spokes person ignored it completely and talked about something else.

From that, I conclude that something smells fishy. Which is why I believe that there is indeed a visual inferiority with regard to the SP3 version compared to the 360 version, and that the developer didn't do a good job, and their spokesperson did a decent job avoiding questions pertaining to that.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:55:47 AM

Obviously, TheHighlander is well versed in Marketing speak. :)

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 10:20:45 AM

LOL! When I'm 'on', I am a fairly analytical person...

When I'm off, I am a fool....

Which am I today you ask? Not sure, but I did have a banana for breakfast, if that's any indication.

OMG! Non-sequitor!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 10:21:07 AM

Jalex: No idea what you're talking about. I see no problem with the comments. If you honestly think they're no better than in other places, I suggest you go take a look...

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kraygen
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:17:03 AM

The problem with that Highlander is the spokesperson probly has never played the game and was simply told what to say.

One problem I've seen is that people on some sites are claiming pc shots as 360 shots. It's all just some 360 fanboy crap drummed up to make it look like the 360 is awesome.

It's obvious that more than anything the pr person is trying to stay away from the 360 vs ps3 war, that doesn't automatically mean the 360 version is better.

Regardless of the rumors, of the pr spin, try looking for yourself instead of believing rumor and internet speak. I checked out all 3 versions for myself.

The pc version is superior, the 360 and ps3 versions are equal. Fallout 3 was exactly the same way, the pc version is better. That's how multiplats roll.

It has blown my mind how many ppl today on psx have been willing to just swallow this crap instead of finding out for themselves.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:54:50 PM

Well Kraygen, since you have seen both versions, and I have not, I will bow to your word that they are equal.

I do still think that the PR person's words leave a lot to be desired in terms of clarification of the topic though. but if you've seen both demos and they are about the same, that is good enough for me.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:02:16 PM

Kraygen, I havnt played the 360 version but i have seen enough screen shots. To my eyes, the ps3 version looked dirtier. Neither of them were great in my opinion but the 360 has the edge I think.

Plus the track record for this kind of thing doesn't help either. Some are posting links about how this is another hand off like Bayonnaise and The Orange Box.

The problem with the comments is that he only singled out the PS3. If both the 360 and ps3 are indeed equal, why didn't he call them both out? Given that and the rest of the evidence I've seen, it's another pooper of a port.

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kraygen
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:30:05 PM

He didn't call them both out because no one is complaining that the 360 version is inferior to the pc version.

Plus it's not the pr person's goal to start a ps3 vs 360 war. Simply to address the comments about the ps3 looking like crap, which it doesn't.

I think that screen shots can easily be deceiving. You could easily take a screen shot of the same place in the game and simply alter the brightness and give a very different look.

The sad thing is, regardless of what people are saying, the graphics on the ps3 version are good and no body would have complained about them had the 360 fanboys not started spouting this crap.

Sadly tho as soon as someone says the ps3 version is inferior, not only does everyone believe, but it automatically means the games graphics are utter crap and look like a ps2 game. It's just sad.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:03:27 PM

From my understanding the whole reason they had to respond was because people were complaining that the PS3 version was inferior to the 360 version. Otherwise people would have been complaining the 360 and the PS3 version were both equally bad compared to the PC version.

People were complaining about a 360 vs PS3 comparison. Not a PC vs 360/PS3 comparison. So the PC is irrelevant to me.

For the record, i have never thought the graphics on this game were very good. I wont say they suck, but they certainly aren't that great. Even before there were whispers of inferiority.

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Vito_Scaletta
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:02:35 AM
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This is a huge slap in the face to me cause im a huge fan of mafia 2 but ill still buy it because i still have high hopes

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ps3sownsxbox360
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:23:54 AM
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The demo was pretty fun i like the handling of the cars and all the old cars. But no Im not interested in it as much as i was.

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Bloodysilence19
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:47:07 AM
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i played the demo didn't seem to bad looking, i just had a problem with it always freezing or glitching out. its just shows that 2k doesn't want to take time and make both console versions the same. its pretty much bayonetta all over again with ps3 getting another inferior mulitiplate game. its all good i rather have exclusives more than mulitiplates.

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DazeOfWar
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:13:27 AM
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Well at least the graphics won't bother me because I was never planning on buying this anyway.

Besides that the devs do need to stop using excuses. Just say sorry we couldn't figure it out but the game will play the same.

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Qubex
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:25:50 AM
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Reading Jawknees' post above... some thoughts I have.

After replaying the demo I was actually turned off by Mafia II. I had high hopes for the title but you can definitely feel the difference in gameplay fidelity between games such as Uncharted 2 and Red Dead Redemption when considering the 3rd person view and the camera. Let us not forget Infamous, and how well it worked too.

Some of my reasons I will not now purchase this game, and go for the safer option of investing in Medal of Honour, with added value that I will get more bang for the back out of the multi-player option as well, are;

1] After spending time tearing up the Mafia II game world I began to notice glitches I didn't like...

a] Screen tearing is quite bad in places...

b] Really find the camera annoying now... It is too close to Vito's head a lot of the time, especially in cramped places... it doesn't feel very smooth when you are trying to correct aim and move between areas... it feels all to "jarring"...

c] Popping in Uncharted 2 again, and then going back to Mafia II, you can just see the difference, it is huge. Really, you need to do it.

*Uncharted 2 proves what the PS3 can do, and we are simply not getting justice from these developers. I refuse now to pay any more good money on products that don't really use and push my hardware.

d] They have 6 SPU's, when Guerilla used the SPU's for the post processing effects look how Killzone 2 turned out, with the AA and lens blooming etc. Mafia II has not been optimised for the PS3. Maybe for the central processing unit, but it does not use the SPU's for AA and other effects from what I can tell... even Codemasters' EGO engine looks better for a multi-plat system.

e] It feels meh! I know getting into the story (maybe) and then doing missions in a linear sort of way keeps you on track, but after playing Red Dead I realise actually what is possible. Why don't RockStar make a real Mafia game... with an enhanced engine and the like. GTAIV had technical issues, but another level up from Red Dead and a Mafia game using the RockStars' "open world" engine would look pretty sweet.

I am sure that if you played Mafia II linearly - as I think 2K force you to do anyway - the story should be engaging enough for "most" people who are not technical whores and enjoy the hardware being maxed out... however when you look at the CGI quality in FFXIII, when you see the SPU's at work in Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2... and YOU KNOW what could be done... you don't expect second best...

God help multi-plat developers when Killzone 3 and GT5 are released... honestly...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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kraygen
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:58:51 AM

Only problem with your logic is that you're comparing an exclusive game to a multiplat. No one should expect a multiplat to have the same polish as an exclusive, it's just not a realistic expectation.

It'd be nice if devs making multiplats made them equal to exclusives, but so far they never have and I highly doubt they ever will.

Exclusives allow the dev to focus everything on that system, multiplats have to divide their resources. Just how it is.

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Qubex
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:01:09 AM

Kraygen, my logic is fine... the results speak for themselves...

I respect your opinion of course, but if you care to re-read Ben's article, he quotes the developers saying that the game has been "optimised" for each respective system, including the PS3... obviously it is not to the degree we think then... and the results again prove it on screen...

I am not saying the game will be "bad", or, "unplayable"; however when a developer says it is optimised specifically for the PS3 platform - to all intense and purposes - I would assume they are meaning using the Cell (and its spu's) to their full capacity (where appropriate).

Again, PS3 exclusives actually show what "optimised for the PS3" means...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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kraygen
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:19:43 AM

I realize he claims it is optimized for the ps3, but when speaking of multiplats, all devs say that with every game they release.

No one ever believes it to be true, so why is everyone harping on this particular game. It's the same as before, devs make claims to try and sell their game. We all know better, only exclusives push the ps3's limits.

I'm not really disagreeing with you, just saying you have to remember all devs make these claims, it's not like 2k is the first with mafia 2 or anything.

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artson1966
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 1:46:09 AM
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what a shame. I was looking forward to getting this game, guess I will be renting it from gamefly and using my cash for Medal of honor. I refuse to spend my hard earned cash on sloppy ports. I was forced to do that year one and didnt like it then, now that we really know how good games can be on the ps3 i won't settle for crap anymore.

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Qubex
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:09:15 AM

Funny how I got thumbs down when I am stating the exact same facts, just in a little more detail... the mind boggles sometimes...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:04:12 AM
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Played the demo and not all that impressed, does shooters by 2K always comes with L2 for aiming and R2 for shooting which is also the case for FPS like Bioshock?

Are they trying to be unique when just about every shooters out there aim with L1 and shoot with R1? It kinda hard to get used to it.

"Hey look, our shooters shoot with R2 instead of R1 and the third person shooters aim with L2 instead of L1, we're doing something no one else is doing!!!"

Now enough of my rant, yea, this is like saying "So what the graphic is inferior? The gameplay is still the same."

The hell?
That's 2 games in a row now, first RDR and now Mafia 2, and they're giving excuses for it.

Optimized? Yea right.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:09:06 AM
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Ultimately it will probably be as small a difference as there was in RDR, but whatever. I just like to rant and rave and rabblerouse even if I don't care about the game.

I hadda put together a gigantic Ikea dresser tonight and I'm in a foul mood.

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SmokeyPSD
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:26:26 AM

To be honest, RDR had some pretty bad problems, framerate got pretty bad for me towards the end of the game, smooth as a babies bottom on a 360. Even disregarding the small subhd resolution taken away overall.

I am quite sick of this. We deserve better, plain and simple. It almost wrecked my entire enjoyment of the game the technical issues RDR had. Rockstar should've done better, it was afterall working off problems which were there in GTAIV to begin with.

LA Noire is another which I'm just not going to buy most likely. I'm sick of multiplatforms, they lack inspiration, feel more mass marketed, and lack technical finesse. I liked to think that the period of bad ports was over but lately I've been proven wrong.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 2:09:39 AM
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All I can say is 'calm down everyone.' Sure, the game may be slightly graphically inferior on the PS3, but so many of you repeat time and time again that gameplay > graphics, so you decide to get all pissy at this.

I understand if you're annoyed about yet another piss-poor port job, but that isn't necessarily what this is. It's called reasoning. Just take it for what it is, rather than what it is not. Please.

I admit to not seeing any screenshots or videos of Mafia 2 in action, and I don't particularly want to because I'm not really interested in the game, but really, 2K are just trying to defend against the rampant hate which you apparently see fit to throw in their direction. I'm shutting up now before I get in trouble.
Peace.

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Qubex
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:12:36 AM

Yes... but Lawless, put simply then, we should all go out and get Slim360's to play multi-plats, and stick to purchasing around 5 to 10 exclusive games for our beloved Sony platform simply because developers don't care about doing what is right for the PS3 community...

Let's see what happens now with Dead Space 2, Hot Pursuit, Assassins Creed 3, MGS5 etc... who will have the best version with standard AA? - because it seems most PS3 "PORTS" lack even that... some basic AA included to smooth out the visuals... and in some cases, even worse, lower resolution... now we are getting into Wii territory - fancy that :(

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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RebelJD
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 3:59:25 AM
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This is lame. I understand that some PCs have the capability to show off superior graphics, but not all. Unless you purchased an expensive graphics card that actually fits your motherboard that is. Either than that, the lack of detail in some parts of the game would be noticeable in all platforms.

A good point that was noted though. If the gameplay is not affected as it was in say Bayonetta, then I don't think minor details in grass or flags matter. Seriously, unless the game is suffering a mean case of 64-bit action, lay off it.

Sony/Playstation rocks.

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johnld
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:22:42 AM
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maybe they shouldnt have said they optimized the game for each system, not to mention acknowledge the visual problems that people are complaining about. Its probably just me but when i hear a game was optimized for the ps3 i will expect uncharted 2 type quality. if they really optimized the game for each system then we have to see clear differences between each version. i know what the ps3 and 360 can do when games are optimized, uncharted 2 and gears of war 2. uncharted 2 clearly beats out gears of war 2. i think the pr guy forgot to insert the word "tried" in that response because they failed in that attempt and their response.

btw, i just found it funny that the first thing i found in the game after starting up the demo was the playboy. i guess they really wanted to make it easy to find to lure kids to the game. although kinda disappointed that you couldnt view the ones you collected because when i found it i was playing in the living room while my family was around. had to close it right away, hahaha.

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nath08
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:32:55 AM
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Yet again, the PS3 users have been let down. This time graphically. Last time we where let down was with Red Dead Redemption. It was proven that the PS3 is sub-HD whereas the XBOX is 720p. I'm going to sound like a 5 year old here, but. It's just not fair. I didnt pay all of this money for a game which is graphically infereior to another console with half of the power, for half of the price. PS3 users, I hope you understand that it is us who ALWAYS get the sh*t end of the stick!

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nath08
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:41:30 AM

Sorry guys, that was worded incorrectly. what I meant to say was.

I didnt mean I payed all of the money for Mafia II. I meant all of the money I payed for the PS3 with its 'amazing graphics' and 'superior power' which the let down, no good developers cant use properly. Developers should have been ready for the real 'next-gen'

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nath08
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:38:23 AM
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It is clear to me that the PS3 graphics are inferior in this game and they knew it all along, because he avoided answering the question directly. Instead of saying "yes" or "no" he went into how they TRIED to optimise it (but couldnt of course) and then went into how the clothing and grass looks.

PS3 exclusives all the way. 10 times better than ANY games out for the XBOX, especially the exclusives for it. It makes me wonder why developers still bother with the XBOX. They ALL only play COD and the games have so much more potential on the PS3.

Maybe developers should start to make PS3 versions fro games, then leave the XBOX 360 in the dark. See how they like it. Then though, the childish XBOX players would complain because the developers arnt letting them hold us down with their inferior system.

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SirLoin of Beef
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 8:59:52 AM

More idiotic generalizations of Xbox players I see.

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GuernicaReborn
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:15:38 AM

Seriously. That was just embarrassing for everyone involved. I don't see how he can accuse anyone else of being childish.

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___________
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 4:48:43 AM
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optimized to bring out the best of each system?
is that why it looks worse than GTAIV a freaking 2 year old game!?
come on 2K you can do better than this, enough of these lazy crappy ports!
bioshock, need i say more?

thank god i got my 470GTX today, im canceling my mafia 2 preorder and moving it over to the PC edition.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 6:37:37 AM

Pre-ordered for PS3?

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___________
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 8:35:09 AM

yea, i had a preorder on ps3 but since the ps3 version sucks im getting it for the PC.
not only are the graphics allot better, also the physics and environmental destruction is so much more advanced!
there using nvidias physics X which is really impressive stuff!
wonder how long my new cards going to last though, just on idle with nothing open its running at 50C, imagine what id be like running crysis!
in fact ill try that tomorrow, hopefully i wont be organizing a funeral for it afterwords.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:40:05 AM

You do realize that the RSX supports nVidia PhysX, and if I remember correctly, that was added to Sony's PS3 SDK?

Or is that something that kinda sorta slipped past in one of your more anti-Sony moments?

Link for proof :

http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1237287245570.html

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___________
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 7:48:32 AM

sigh do you bother reading anything i say?
ill say it again.
"not only are the graphics allot better, also the physics and environmental destruction is so much more advanced!"
i did not say the console versions dont support physics x if you boot up the mafia 2 demo you will see that it does the physics x emblem is at the start of the demo.
again stop putting words in my mouth.

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Nynja
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 7:23:15 AM
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1-800-345-SONY

Somebody pass this along to 2K. It's Sony's phone number. Tell 'em to ask for some damn help.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 8:48:59 AM

Truth!!

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TheOldOne
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 8:01:16 AM
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I really wanted to buy this game (I love open world games like GTA and Saints Row). But, I won't buy it because I don't want an inferior port. This is the new Orange Box for me :(

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SmokeyPSD
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:21:19 AM
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I really was not enamoured at all by this at all to begin with. It just all looked too... "mainstream" and gta, and I even hated GTAIV. This just seals the deal for me.

The 1st Mafia is a masterpiece. Shame

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BrillantED
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:46:49 AM
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Sorry 2K but im cancelling my pre-ordered Collector´s Edition of Mafia II. I will not pay for a mediocre port.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 9:58:41 AM
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MASS EFFECT 2 IS COMING TO PS3 IN JAN!

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 10:21:01 AM

Excellent.

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marcusfrommo
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 10:10:13 AM
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mass effect 2 is coming to the ps3. tell all of your friends.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 10:21:12 AM

Indeed. This is good news.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 10:38:56 AM
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Ironic, days after the vote for most desired multi-platform for PS3 the most voted game gets officially announced for PS3.

See, Bioware read this site =p

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phade2blaq
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:06:51 AM
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I've played the game demo and the camera angles are not that good ! The control could use some tweaking as well although I do understand it's a demo and unfinished, it's still quite a ways off !



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vicious54
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:25:41 AM
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N4G has an article stating the port was handled by Massive Bear Studios so it looks like we have another Bayonetta.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 11:38:43 AM
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I'm not sure why you're all suprised by this. Mafia 1 was way better on the PC than on consoles. Also it's by 2K. Remember the difference between the 360 and PS3 version of Bioshock (Without mentioning the year gap of a release date...)

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Kokushi
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 12:59:45 PM
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The Mafia 2 was very good but the only problems I had were:

- The camera is horrible in small spaces, too tight.

- You cant draw your gun in your house, that is really stupid.

- The cars are difficult to control, people criticize GTA 4 but in Mafia 2 is much worse.

- The police have the best aim in the world, they shot at you while they are on foot or in a police car and never fail.

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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 5:03:13 PM
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Not really fussed about this.

Graphics whores are loving it, but for me - there's plenty of other games to be putting in my ps3.

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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 5:04:39 PM
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btw page 103 of the topic, the post written by the dev slating some techie wannabe.

classic

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Jian2069
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 1:43:02 AM

Dude you read all that thread?
GO OUTSIDE

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D1g1tal5torm
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 7:32:35 AM

Nope. Just went to the last page when he clicked the link, just happened to be pg 103.

Enjoy.

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Charger7302
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 6:24:00 PM
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I absolutely LOVED the demo so I will be buying this game regardless of how graphically inferior it is.

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FlyingKickPunch
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 @ 6:47:15 PM
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Optimization FAIL.

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tanner1
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 6:41:09 AM
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For me to buy this multiplat title, the ps3 version needs to be at worst on par with the 360 version or im not interested and that goes for any other title these lazy devs throw our way

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Wissam
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 9:11:05 AM
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What a punch of morons.

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Qubex
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 @ 12:54:19 PM

Lol Wissam...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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