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Square-Enix: Versus XIII Development Only On PS3

Like most big publishers, Square-Enix doesn't really believe in platform exclusivity anymore. This is why many have assumed any delays associated with Final Fantasy Versus XIII are due to the developer's new multiplatform aims.

However, while there's no knowing if Square-Enix will eventually port the game to the Xbox 360, game producer Testuya Nomura has confirmed that as of yet, they are not thinking about Microsoft's console. The following information comes from a recent Tweet (as cited by Andriasang), where Nomura talks about the difference between "multiplatform" and "port:"

"Multiplatform is when you start development on a game with the assumption of optimizing for multiple platforms. Porting is something that's done after you've developed a game specifically for a particular platforms. The debate over porting is decided by the management based off the current market and the costs. All I can say right now as a developer is that Versus is being developed specifically for the PlayStation 3."

This makes the situation relatively clear: even if Square-Enix brings Final Fantasy Versus XIII to the Xbox 360, it will be a port, which will invariably mean the PS3 version will be superior. We all know about shoddy ports; long-time PS3 owners are all too familiar. But in this case, they shouldn't be too peeved; the designers are only focusing on Sony's machine, which could mean good things...

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Tags: final fantasy versus xiii, ff versus xiii ps3, square-enix

9/7/2010 8:55:56 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (158 posts)

TEG3SH
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:27:43 PM
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if it's any thing like XIII, they can keep it. i ditched 13 to play 8 for th 8th time maybe

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:39:31 PM

You're crazy, well IMO. VIII is to me what XIII is to most of you.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:46:50 PM

LV what kinda crack are you smoking? XIII isn't a bad game, but it doesn't touch VIII. That game has exploration and towns and ships and a twisting plot and a battle system that isn't lame. The best thing XIII has is its music.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:49:41 PM

I'm sorry World but I didn't care about any of the characters in VIII, especially Squall. Due to this and how easy the game is (seriously easy) I've never enjoyed it as much as I do other games in the series, including XIII. I can appreciate what XIII does more than VIII.


nananana, it's my opinion, nananana!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:59:38 PM

LV: Sorry, but at least FFVIII was an RPG. It like, had role-playing elements.

But that being said, I always say the same thing around here- nobody should dump on FFXIII; it's a really great game, and I will always defend it. It just isn't a great Final Fantasy, IMO. That's a different sort of standard.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:01:30 PM

I liked VIII's gameplay more and it had an air ship and a world map. The story and some of the characters like Squall and Irving were always meh to me, but over all i enjoyed and beat VIII multiple times.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:02:27 PM

I agree with you Ben, VIII a good game (definitely better than most games out there) but I don't enjoy it compared to the rest of the FF series.

XIII is a very weak RPG, yup but the story was amazing IMO and it kept me wanting to play and I cared about the characters (unlike VIII) for that reason I enjoyed it more than VIII.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:03:35 PM

Squall's thoughts shown in parenthesis were deeper than anything Cloud ever did or said...

Just saying...

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:05:57 PM

Squall was a crybaby orphan, boohoo. Cloud was a genetic mistake. Squall may have had better "writing" than Cloud but it didn't matter what Squall said, he was still a crybaby orphan with zero self esteem.

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:28:54 PM

@ LV gameplay wise VIII is the best of all final fantasy.

Now for the shocker: Squall after the fight with Edea at the end os the second disk dies and the rest of the game is a dream that squall has after dying. Thats how everything in the end makes sense.there is a theory about it just google it. ta da now after knowing that isn't the best FF ever!!!???

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:32:00 PM

Gameplay wise VII and X were better.

VII>X>IX>VIII>XII>XIII.

Last edited by Jawknee on 9/7/2010 10:34:08 PM

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:36:20 PM

@ Jaw

7 was good, never liked 9

for me, the junctions and the drawing was so fresh and awesome
Best FF's in my book are
1-ff8
2-ff6
3-ff10
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100100- Hannah Montana
100101- FF XIII.lol
the game is just that boring....... although the story was starting to be good, all the X mashing ruined it for me

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:42:29 PM

I strongly disagree about your take on the gameplay in VIII. I find it to be one of the worst. It's far too easy and "stealing" spells from enemies pails in comparison to the Materia system in VII.

Your comments about Squall dreaming are interesting, I'll look into it for sure.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:58:28 PM

While i liked the Junctions system over all, Materia is still my favorite system of any Final Fantasy. Also drawing magic was soooooooooooooo boring. The only spells worth drawing so you could see them were Holy, Ultima and Meteor.

I know what you mean Limited, i remember leveling up to 30 or higher a few times before i even left the Balam area in the very beginning of the game. It was simple, and a tad tedious, but XIII just took so much control away from the player, i didn't enjoy playing it as much as VIII. I also liked Zell quite a bit more than Snow. Snow's design reminded me too much of Seifer with a doorag. haha

I did like the rest of the characters in XIII quite a bit.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:11:29 PM

Well in this case your opinion is wrong, XIII was easy.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:13:16 PM

TEG, I read that theory, and while well-thought out, it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Just some fanfic.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:13:22 PM

World,

By now I'd like to think you've realized my opinion is never wrong. Geesh!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:28:14 PM

Okay, XIII was NOT easy. It wasn't much of an RPG but it had to be the hardest to actually beat of all the FFs. I mean, by a long shot.

Most all other FFs weren't necessarily hard to beat; only the optional enemies (i.e., the WEAPONs) were challenging.

I will also say that while I don't think VIII's gameplay system is the best (never did like the Drawing system and using spells as "equipment"), it was still a fantastic RPG with a fantastic story. I guess my list goes-

FFVII
FFX
FFVIII
FFVI
FFIX
FFXII
FFIV
FFXIII

The only reason I put FFXIII down there is because, as I said, I don't really even think of it as a FF. But a great, great game nonetheless. And Tactics beats them all, of course, but that's in a category all by itself. ;)

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:31:44 PM

VI is still my favorite. Heh... Might be because I played it the most though. Everything after 6, except 13 I flew through and couldn't be bothered to play it again. I remember spending hours and hours on 6, though.

It had a ninja.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:32:35 PM

I like XII's gameplay the most out of the series but consider it to have one of the weakest stories.

Good point on the difficulty of XIII compared to the rest of the series in regards to the main quest. There were some annoying boss battles near the end of XIII.

Regardless of our differences in deciding which game in the series is better it's nice to have informed gamers in the series that feel passionate enough to even discuss such things.

I really enjoy putting on a FF soundtrack and reliving my quests through the different tracks. Yes, I'm that pathetic.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:37:34 PM

Pfft, not like it matters, come on guys, well all know IX is the best, LOL. or at least VI is pretty amazing too =P

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:39:27 PM

All Final Fantasy lovers are in the same camp, as far as I'm concerned. ;)

I often think I know too much about some of those games and then I remember how much I value that knowledge. FF geek I be, and proud of it.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:40:25 PM

MadPowerBomber: FFT had the BESTEST ninjas. ;)

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spiderboi
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:44:05 PM

Wow TEG3SH! I just looked up the "Squall died" theory, and it makes perfect sense.

I'm getting goosebumps. Didn't even notice that faceless Squall scene before since I was just a kid then playing through the game and not minding the details.

FF8 suddenly really got higher in story-depth IMO (since it leaves the gamer to wonder if he lived or died). Sorta like Inception.

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:46:28 PM

I never got to play FFTactics! It was a handheld wasn't it? Or on the PSOne? My memory is failing me. Stupid headache!

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:51:32 PM

MadPower,

I'd watch what you say about Tactics around here. It's Ben's little golden boy of the videogame world.

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MadPowerBomber
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:00:32 AM

I've never said something bad about a game I've not played. :B

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:01:44 AM

.......I'm sorry, can you put "didn't play" and "Final Fantasy Tactics" in the same sentence?

It was on the PS1. They made some candy-ass entry for the GBA, and then much later did a great remake for the PSP.

But I should probably tell you that it's a strategy/RPG, like an old Front Mission or Tactics Ogre. You know, board-based, turn-based gameplay. It's nothing like the other FFs, so fair warning. Still my fav game of all time. ;)

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Highlander
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:07:06 AM

Well, I'm replaying FFVIII right now and absolutely loving it.

There's a review in the PSP and PS1 review section if you're interested.

For me, although I like the Materia system in FFVII, I find that in terms of everything that makes a game, FFVIII is vastly superior. I'll accept the comments about spells as equipment, and the whole drawing system. On the other hand drawing works well in the sense that you don't spontaneously have magic, you have to draw it to you and capture it. Just like you have to defeat or draw GFs to obtain them. It seems more logical than simply having these things occur spontaneously.

Back to the overall impression though, FFVIII outclasses FFVII in terms of graphics, sound, story, and I actually prefer it's combat to that in FFVII. I haven't got to FFIX yet, and it's been a long time since I even looked at a cut scene. So I will have to wait until I replay that one before forming an opinion.

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MadPowerBomber
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:07:45 AM

Haha, yeah, somehow I missed FFTactics. All three times around. I have no idea HOW, but it happened.

And that's okay, I'm way old school and have dabbled in every genre of games there's ever been. I just happen to be biased for fighting games, have been ever since Karate Champ. Dated myself there, didn't I? Haha. I can dig a strategy/RPG.

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Mavfan321
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:03:17 AM

VIII will always be my personal favorite and to say that VIII was your personal XIII means you shouldn't be playing Final Fantasy games, if in your opinion XIII is your idea of a true Final Fantasy.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:23:44 AM

I died in XIII exactly 3 times, and 2 were on the lame-o eidolons. The bosses were simps. Not sayin I'm great or nothing, just that it wasn't a challenge like say The Sorceress.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:38:21 AM

Yeah, the Sorcerous caused me to leave Ultemecia's castle and draw some better stuff and get more Aura stones. I ended up getting my 3 core characters up to 9,999hp and also obtained better stock on a few item junctions. I probably would've had Omega Weapon beat if I had a few more Hero potions. His terra-blast was insanely powerful. It was a test of endurance and how many times you could prepare for his terrablast while being invincible. I even lucked out on a try where I landed two Lionheart's (along with a million other limit breaks) on the big lug--still wouldn't go down. He had to have been pretty close to dead.

I thought FF13's end boss was pretty easy--beat him on my first try. I had a pretty solid team going in, I had maxed out level 2 weapons for my core characters--I wasn't going to take the time to get the crazy catalyst for level 3's. I really liked FF13, I actually see myself going back to it to do some more leveling.

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:56:23 AM

what ruined FF8 for me was that tacked on, horrible orphan story line.....REALLY? hey im no story writer but that crap was...crap. Best thing about FF8 was Ultimecia's battle theme music, kick ass track and dare i say better than sephiroth's theme?

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Wissam
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 6:27:38 AM

I Finished ff8 few days ago. it was 1000 time more fun and more rpg than ff13 and that time compression concept was really cool.tons of side quests.

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Lotusflow3r
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 7:10:38 AM

How come no one is questioning the theory TEG3SH put forward? If it's a valid theory, it'll lift Vlll above all others in story.

Don't tell me you'd rather discuss things like the final boss theme being what factors in you liking it??? Talk about the depth!

Am i too old?

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Arvis
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:37:01 AM

If everything in VIII after Disc 1 is a dream, then why did Squall and his companions have their first "Laguna Dream" BEFORE the end of Disc 1?

The kills the "Squall Is Dead" theory for me.

-Arvis

P.S. Tactics is the greatest video game of all time!!

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Underdog15
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 9:36:42 AM

Jeepers, all the fun conversations happen while I'm sleeping!! >.<

It's a little late now... but...

I like the story of FFVIII probably best, unless you include the entire FFVII compilation. Then I like FFVII the best.

In terms of battle, my favorite system is FFVI. I absolutely love the fact that every character is immensely different. (One reason why FFIX is a second place for me!) And I love how equipping the esper stones lets you learn new spells (although you can use the spells just by equipping the right esper stone!) It was like a materia system that with enough training would help you learn the spells forever!

The customization in FFV was cool, too. Similar to FFT in a lot of ways!

I guess... I like pretty much ALL FF's. What a fantastic series!

(P.s. to all you who don't know the series well. First of all, you kinda suck a little... Secondly, the term "Final Fantasy" does not imply it's the final game. Every Final Fantasy is telling a fantasy story that includes an element of potential end times... thus making it the final one. Always, your goal is to stop the potential end of everything.)

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shadowpal2
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 11:42:46 AM

And one more reply from me to make this the world's longest reply list in PSXextreme history!

=)

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 11:52:12 AM

@ spiderboi

I know it blew me away also.

@Lotusflow3r

just google it there is an entire website dedicated to it, it is an awesome theory and after reading the website, u can't help but to play it again believe u me ( not that I needed a new reason, for me ZELL, Selphie, Quistis, Rinoa and her dog, Laguna and his Friends, seifer and his friends, and the 2 witches are the best characters to ever grace FF universe, the story was the best IMO)

@shadowpal2

yeah and here is another one :)

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Pandacastro
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:46:34 PM

I just read that theory and that game just made so much sense to me. Now I actually like that game.The only way to disproved that theory was if a spokesperson from square enix says its not real like the rinoa is Ultemecia theory. The only thing I did not like about FFVIII was how I have to always use limits breaks for the last boss battles.

Btw have any of you heard the FFVII is connected to FFX-2 theory?

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:15:32 PM

Sorry to interject where I do not belong, but you're wrong Underdog. The reason the titles are called Final Fantasy was because the original game was going to be the creators last game if it failed to make any sort of a lasting impression. Considering it went on to be as big as it was, the game spawned, now thirteen sequels and numerous spin-offs, with no end in sight.

The title actually has very little to do with the story in the games.
Peace.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:37:08 PM

Lawless,

Exactly.

Come on people, keep the replies coming.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 3:07:18 PM

A recent article about Final Fantasy's name.

“It was something that was decided a long time ago, so my memory might be a bit faulty, but I think one of the things we had decided up front was that we wanted a title that could be abbreviated as FF. That abbreviation has special meaning. So we came up with many different titles, and Final Fantasy was one of them. From there, I think we were quick to make the call. There were some concerns about calling something ‘final’ from the get-go, but in the end we all warmed up to it. On a side note, one other option we liked was Fighting Fantasy, but it was the name of a game-book series by legendary game designer Steve Jackson, so we canned the idea. I wonder what would have happened if we didn’t realize this and went with the Fighting Fantasy option.”

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Arvis
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 3:48:22 PM

The "Squall Is Dead" theory for FF8 is bunk, people! Stop talking about it like it's some brilliant revelation! It's hogwash!

See my above post.

+1 more reply.

-Arvis

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coverton341
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 4:21:17 PM

I agree with Limited that the characters in VIII did nothing to leave a lasting impression on me aside from a bad one. Squall was a whiner through and through and even if the "dead" theory held water it would mark some of the most poorly thought out and executed story writing in the history of Square. But, IMHO VIII already had a pretty poorly written story, though it wasn't my least favourite in the series. That place is held by XIII.

Now, I did not care for the characters in XIII either. I could not connect to any of them on a meaningful level and I just wound up playing the game to beat it, not to get engrossed in the story. Aside from that, the game really was great. The gameplay while not really anything I enjoyed, was something different. The paradigm shifts and battle system were something that was entirely new and innovative. It fell on its face IMO but it was different and risky.

The music was stellar and really shined through and added to the game's atmosphere. Probably the best aspect of the game and definitely the best music in the series.

The graphics were amazing and the cut scenes were top notch as were all the FF games when they came out.

The game did a lot of things different and if we could strip that leading Final Fantasy title off and give it a different title or have this game be the experimental "Dirge of Cerberus" in the XIII universe I don't think nearly as many people would have had the complaints they do about it, but we can't and the complaints are valid IMO. FFXIII is a great game, just not a great RPG or main FF game.

I have no idea where this is going any more nor do I think I even had a clear indicator when I started this comment. So that being said I'm done.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 7:44:38 PM

HEY.

This is really cool and all, but...

FORUMS. I swear they exist.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 9/8/2010 7:44:55 PM

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 7:50:00 PM

at LV,

Here is another One :)

@ Ben

It's easier in here, we do believe that forums exists :)

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DeathOfChaos
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 9:08:06 PM

Just adding a comment to make this long list of replies to a post just a tad bit longer, lol xD Ready for the thumb down party :p

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Killa Tequilla
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:31:23 PM
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I Dont like FF.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:39:47 PM

Well I just found out I don't like you.

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Killa Tequilla
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:48:50 PM

We all have Likes and Dislikes thus making everyone of us unique.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:50:37 PM

Yup and what makes you unique happens to disgust me.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:54:30 PM

Everyone's taste differ, no love lost.

PEACE!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:00:19 PM

Yes, we all have likes and dislikes but was there a point to that post...?

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 9/7/2010 10:00:42 PM

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:03:55 PM

For him to make enemies and me to make friends.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:05:08 PM

I have likes. I have dislikes.

Just saying.

Deep, eh?

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main_event05
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:53:46 PM

I don't like Lima beans.

likes < Dislikes

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:42:00 PM

Ben, I ask the same the question when I read posts that are off-topic and irrelevant.

Sigh.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:31:43 PM
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In Tetsuya Nomura I trust.

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firstc624
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:33:18 PM
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I think that Versus is going to be a much better game, in terms of replay value than XIII. I found XIII to be to taxing to have replay value.

Don't misunderstand, XIII was a good game, but What i am hoping for is more of the "true" RPG

But since Verus is developed For the PS3 it means more in terms of what it CAN have.

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piratedrunk
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:36:16 PM
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I think this is really good news. I am definitely looking forward to this one and honestly don't care if it gets ported later it won't diminish my experience with it at all.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:51:08 PM

not fine... death to all at SE.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:03:33 PM

Haha!

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:40:25 PM
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Information I already assumed and expected. Glad to hear it validated.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:38:48 PM

LOL, totally off topic, but LV, what server are you on in the XIV Beta? Since I finally got it all working out =P lol

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:48:03 PM

I'm in Wutai, what about you? My SN in the game is PixyStyx.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:19:24 AM

Bodhum or something? I'm not sure, LOL, but I'll make another character in Wutai. LOL, and I have know idea what my in name character would be and such so I'll have to get back to you on that lol, and I'm still getting used to the controls, it's so..eh to me though D=

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:29:10 AM

It's a beta dude! Don't let it get you down, it's going to be amazing. We'll be travel buddies and it shall be the talk of legends.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:33:37 AM

Lol, it better be =P But it's just the system is just...eh to me, maybe it'd be easier if the resolution was my full screen instead of like half, lol. But the battle system seems..off to me, and it just feels clunky, not stream lined. But I understand it's a beta, but the thing is, I don't even know where to submit anything wrong with anything, LOL. I've seen tons of spelling mistakes too, haha

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:43:55 AM

Wolf...wow...haha...

go to your SquareEnix folder located in your Program Files and then open the FFXIV folder. In there find the application "ffxiv config" open this and you're able to change all sorts of things. One of them is enabling "full screen".

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:52:51 AM

Oh, yeah, LOL, i ignored that earlier when I saw it all in japanese so I was just like, eh, oh well, haha. Anywayz, maybe it's harder for me to get used to the feel of this game since I wasn't a part of XI

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:59:42 AM

I wasn't a part of XI either. It was during my FPS glory days and I didn't want to invest the amount of time needed for an online RPG. I'm really looking forward to experiencing what SE has to offer for an online game.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 9:40:08 AM

Yeah, the controls are immensely like FFXI's. I can't remember what server I'm on, but I'll end up switching at release. Since I have an FFXI account, I'll get some wicked in game items for FFXIV at release. (Including shoes that increase my movement speed!)

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:43:47 PM
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But, FFXIII was also a port, but because they saw that the 360 port was going to be imposible, the wattered down the PS3 version only to get the port done right.

But that was XIII, now this is Nomura we're talking.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:50:09 PM

Um no, you're incorrect.

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:56:57 PM

They announced (well, Wada really) the 360 version when the PS3 version was already in development, and all of a sudden, the game got delayed and they used lame excuses, but everyone knew that it was because they were trying to fit the beast FFXIII was in the DVDs 360 uses, but they couldn't, so they watered down it to fit into DVDs.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:03:31 PM

The development of FFXIII is a mess, no denying that but to say the 360 version is a port is not a correct statement. Even if you believe the PS3 version was gimped to allow both versions to be equal to a certain degree it still wasn't a port.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:50:53 PM
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Sounds like he his hedging himself here, getting us ready because he suspects Wada will try to do a hackjob on his game. The fact is, even if it is only being developed for PS3, the moment it becomes known this will have to work on the 360 somehow, it becomes affects. Not dissimilar from the Hawthorne Effect (That's for you Ben).

I will remain optimistic. I mean nothing could be worse than XIII (series wise).

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:54:55 PM

::cough:: VIII ::cough::

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Underdog15
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:07:11 PM

If VIII didn't touch you, then you, LV, are a she-devil!

Blas-FEE-muhr!

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:10:00 PM

I prefer the term Banshee :)

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:38:19 PM

@ Underdog

I think we should hunt LV down, and make him play it for a month str8 until he likes it or was it the other way around...eeerrrr

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frylock25
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:41:39 PM

so LV, if i have read the posts correctly lately, your a banshee johova's witness whos butt talks to him about penis to much. did i miss anything? lol

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:44:30 PM

Well Underdog believes I was in jail as well so add that to the list and you'd be close to perfectly describing the person I am, haha.

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frylock25
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:18:45 PM

well you did disappear all summer, maybe you were in jail... it might explain your butts problem haha

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:22:01 PM

Oh come on. I was around on the site posting here and there just not nearly as much as I normally do. I can't help it if my Summer was more eventful! ;)

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frylock25
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:44:02 PM

just screwin with ya man ha ha

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:49:45 PM

Mama!

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Qubex
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 9:52:07 PM
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Squeeeeeenix are trying to re-gain their glory... it may be too late!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:04:39 PM
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Normua should go work for Kojima Pro. Make RPG's with Hideo.

After hes done with this game of course. :)

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SolidFantasy
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:06:00 PM

That could be interesting to say the least.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:16:36 PM

I don't really understand why no straight up JRPG exists from Kojima, since he is so big on epic stories.

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SayWord
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:41:14 AM

@world I've wanted that for years. Ever since I played the first MGS game! It would be totally epic. I really wish he would.

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FullmetalX10
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:53:27 PM

They should team up to make Kingdom Hearts 3 (If only -_-)

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Jawknee
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 6:48:48 PM

I'd rather see Nomura just break away from Square and either start his own studio or work with Kojima. I want another Kingdom Hearts too but at this point, Square would probably just butcher it.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 7:49:15 PM

Kinda like they did with KH2?

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Jawknee
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:35:42 PM

Pretty much.

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DeathOfChaos
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 9:03:47 PM

KHII was freakin' awesome. What was bad about it? I played the first Kingdom Hearts first, then I played Kingdom Hearts II. Tried playing Kingdom Hearts 1 again and couldn't figure out how I dealt with the slow paced game, lol. It was an upgrade in the right direction! Birth by Sleep is also freakin' awesome, the game is great and the feels is better than any game I've gotten to play this generation of gaming.

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Underdog15
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 7:50:07 AM

I agree. KH2 was far better than the first. A giant leap in the right direction.

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SolidFantasy
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:04:53 PM
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I just started playing XIII and boy what a let down. If the game had a different name on the box then I would give it a higher review score, but it's just not a true Final Fantasy. I could go on, but I just hope Vs XIII is the FF we all wanted and with news like this it just might.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:10:55 PM

I agree, the gameplay in XIII is really weak and the constant feeling of playing a tutorial through the first half of the game gets old quick.

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Riku994
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:33:21 PM
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My life just got a little better.

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Alienange
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:34:02 PM
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Oh here we go. VSXIII was an empty promise to Sony fans who were upset over XIII going multiplat. Now we're hearing the 360 would only get a port.

Don't go playing with words Squeenix. We all know what a port is. It's a game that is made to work on both systems and is therefore NOT what you originally promised.

Honestly, these guys can get bent.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:18:03 PM

Reminds me of politicians, "well if we don't CALL it torture and just 'enhanced interrogation' it can't be illegal!"

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:35:55 PM
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Everyone was surprised by FFXIII going multiplat but now I think we're all prepared for Versus to go multiplat.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:07:42 PM
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Until E3

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:23:13 PM
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Sad to see how quickly loyal fans can turn on a developer. There are a lot worse developers out there and FF has been an amazing series for a long enough time for me not to turn on those involved with the latest game.

Shame on all of you!

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CHAOS THEORY X
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:34:37 PM

Sad to see how quickly developers can turn on loyal fans. There are a lot of developers out there changing their games and alliances for the sole sake of money.

Shame on them!

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:35:22 PM

I don't get it, really. It isn't like PS owners LOST the game, after all. Like when Capcom said that Resident Evil was now exclusive to just the GameCube several years back after it having been born and raised on the PS -- except Code: Veronica, which my dogs ate my Dreamcast so I never got to finish it -- or when FF made the jump from Nintendo to the PlayStation never to really look back.

A game going multiplat doesn't really hurt anyone and benefits more people in the long run. I would've been PISSED if the game was scrapped on the PS3 altogether and went to Microsoft instead, but that's not what happened.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:42:10 PM

Chaos,

SE took a risk with FFXIII and it didn't meet everyone's expectations. That doesn't mean they turned their back on the fanbase they've amassed over the years. If SE releases more games down the road that are met with the same feedback than I don't see anything wrong with accusing them of turning their backs on their fans.

I think it's a little too early to make SE out to be the evil Empire.

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CHAOS THEORY X
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:46:40 PM

Dum Dum Dum Da Dum Dum Da Dum Dummmmm
(Empire theme song)

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Condemnedsoul23
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 2:11:24 AM

I'm with you Vertigo. By the way most tlak you would think someone from Square killed their dog or something. Bottom line is go with the wind or it will blow right on by and Square didn't get to be Square by being stupid. In a perfect world you could please everyone but this isn't that world. If every Final Fantasy game was exactly the same sooner or later people would get tired of it and want something new and we all know it. Granted they changed a lot but I can't think of a single series as windely known as this series and for me personally nothing compares to Final Fantasy. I'm sad to see some of my favorite elements missing from 13 but it makes up for it in lots of other areas and I still highly anticipate the next one and the one after that and the one after that just like deep down most of you do as well. The only thing Square is guilty of is being a business. That's life.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:34:54 PM
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Well, I don't really care if the 360 version is a port since I won't be playing it on that console. It won't sell anywhere near the PS3 version.

What really interests me is the day the Xbox 360 is replaced by the next console in the line and all the so-called gaming journalists will write all sorts of BS about how the 360 saved gaming despite having the worst excuse for an online community, horrible durability and forcing its owners to pay for stuff like a battery charger and Ben "Wannabe" Paddon, the biggest Xbot du jour, plays the hypocrite when he has to rip these people for lying to everybody about the Xbox 360's greatness. The same Paddon who takes shots at Ben Dutka for no reason but out of spite and claims he only uses his PS3 as a Blu-Ray player. I can't wait for him to pull his act on that day in 2012 or 2013 when the 360 is retired and all the BS from the journos has to be evaluated.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:43:04 PM

Just ignore Paddon, I do and life is great.

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:46:57 PM

Who is Paddon?

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:49:24 PM

A douche bag "journalist".

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:53:30 PM

Oh, one of THOSE. Is he the kind that talks out of his backside or is he this kind of douche bag journalist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iurBQbs8iy8

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MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:51:37 PM
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Random thought: My favorite aspect of the Final Fantasy series has always been the Yoshitaka Amano art. My least favorite: None of the games ever looked like Yoshitaka Amano art. :(

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marcusfrommo
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 11:58:03 PM
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Does anyone bothers to ask the producers, or anyone at square enix, what the general release date for the game is? How can Street figher vs. Tekken or Tekken vs Street fighter have a release date, maybe a few pictures of the game, and square has shown nothing since the release of the 2008 trailer?

Will ff14 have a campaign, or will it just be online only. Oh, Admininstrator, when is the release of White Knight Cronicles 2 for the usa?

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MadPowerBomber
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:02:23 AM

Street Fighter X Tekken is being pushed forward faster than Ono and his team expected. They suggested it expecting it to be shot down or a more longwinded development process to begin, and Ono, I think, was expecting to move on to Darkstalkers. But Capcom and Namco said, "Go make these games. NOW." Hence the screenshots and such. The release date, however, has been bumped forward.

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Kiryu
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:01:57 AM
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Hope they don't ruin the quality of PS3 Exclusives!

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Kai200X
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 12:56:59 AM
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I still find it very hard to believe anything SE said. Do you know XIII will be available to Japanese 360 players too? I'm sure we all know it was "FF XIII on PS3 for Japan only" before.

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Alienange
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 4:59:27 PM

I'm sure they did that because they felt bad for those four guys.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:26:36 AM
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Not even sure what all the arguing is about Final Fantasy Mystic Quest was the best of em ;P

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Lucifer
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:07:01 AM

Mystic Quest. Wow

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 2:08:39 PM

That's a sarcasm comment :)

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DeathOfChaos
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:54:55 PM

Lol. The dumb American's RPG. Seriously xD

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Condemnedsoul23
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 2:02:56 AM
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I've had FF13 since day one and JUST started playing it last week. I'm shocked that most of what everyone says is true but this in NO way is a bad game. It is totally worth the money and you can easily tell a lot of time and effort was put into this game. It's nothing like the Final Fantasy games of the past but then again not too many of them have much in common. The battle system for 13 took some getting used to and it's perfect for this game. Not saying it's good, simply works for 13. This is still very much an rpg and I'm loving every second of it. Evolution is inevitable whether we like it or not. We didn't stop buying cars when they ditched carburetors for fuel injection so we shouldn't stop buying Squareenix games. Too each their own though but if I had a choice of burying my head in the sand holding on to my favorite stuff while the rest of the world passes me by I don't think I could do it. If Versus 13 is anything like 13 it's a day one purchase for me. Graphics are superb, story is exceptional, longer than just about anything else out there so you really get your money's worth.

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daus26
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 6:21:37 AM

Thanks for sharing. I was hoping more people would share positive thoughts on it because I'm planning to get the game next week. It's on sale, yay.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 3:20:21 AM
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Okay, well Dissidia: Final Fantasy is the best of the series that I've played. Consisting wholly of TWO games. WOO! >.>

I actually did like XIII. Didn't expect to, but I did. I was sort of hoping for there to be a greater variety of attacks and spells and whatnot though. Oh well.

Good to hear that development is progressing exclusively on the PS3 for Versus XIII, but I am expecting them to once again sell out to MS. If they do though, I sincerely hope that it is released first on the PS3 in the whole world. Either way, I think it's sounding promising, and that I must experience more FF.

LV: Unless I'm much mistaken, the 360 version of FFXIII was indeed a port, thus the reason for the sub-HD graphics and general all-around suck factor of that version. There is no way that they came up with that with optimisation, and I don't care about DVD limitations.

Also, just read about the Dissidia sequel and I am AMPED for EVEN MORE PSP love.

Finally, given Ben's vehement declarations of FFTactics being the best game of all time, and the fact I loved VC, Imma try to track down a copy of War of the Lions at the weekend.
Peace.

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___________
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 5:08:34 AM
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interpret that how ever you want, but if thats not a confirmation of FFVXIII going MP i dont know what is!
13 is going to the 360 in JP, people said that would never happen.
M$ are holding a conference in JP tomorrow, who wants to bet they will be announcing versus 13 there?

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daus26
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 6:13:17 AM
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My hunch is that (with the FF series at least and specifically FFXIII) it's not the fact that they don't believe in exclusivity anymore, but the fact that money is such a big factor in play. Of course money is a big factor, but for FFXIII particularly, the game was built for the ps3 only in mind (obviously the 360 didn't even come to mind back then) till the sudden news of it coming to the X360. Also the fact that they don't even bother to release the game in Japan perhaps because M$ didn't give them enough money to do that.

Anyway, another reason why I say this is because Square Enix themselves have made exclusive X360 rpgs like Last Remnant and also Timed Exclusivity. I mean name one SE game on the PS3 that has either exclusivity? FFXIV don't count.

If they really don't believe in exclusivity anymore, this game would be built with multi-platform in mind, from the start, or they would probably even be releasing the X360 version in Japan. It just seems too clear that money is the biggest factor in their mind. They're probably waiting on Microsoft's bride and see how much they're willing to offer this time.

I don't hate SE, but this is honestly how I see them. Yes business is about money so I don't blame them completely. I'm just so thankful that there are those willing to put that into partial consideration and let passion lead the way. *cough *cough... GT5, Uncharted, God of War, Heavy Rain, LBP, etc.

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Lotusflow3r
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 7:11:21 AM
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I can't say nothing about this game until TGS.

.....And it probably won't be an awful lot as TLG is going to be there to steal everything.

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oONewcloudOo
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 7:46:11 AM
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this basicly confirms that its going to 360 and nothing in that quote claims its going to stay exclusive

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JackC8
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:16:19 AM
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After XIII that franchise is done for me. I've played some awful games in my life, but none of them ever destroyed my will to live quite like the 15 hours of pressing X did.

It's good to see that people are just HOPING that Versus will be good, unlike all the predicting-with-certainty that went on prior to XIII's launch. It means that no egos will be at stake when it comes out :)

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kokoro
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:24:33 AM
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Lol. Final fanatsy 13 international announced for Japan as xbox360 exclusive. Supposedly the international version will contain additional cut scenes, or something of that nature. Whatever the case, this is just hilarious. Do those retards sitting on the square enix adminstritive board own a bloody computer. Has the near uncounatable number of complaints by fans and critics world wide not at the very least triggered in their primitve humaniod brains the idea that they may be heading in the wrong direction (relative to what their fans want). Square Enix- what a joke.

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Orvisman
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 11:10:26 AM

Final Fanatsy 13 International is just the U.S. 360 game with an easy mode and English voices. There are no additional cut scenes or playable scenarios.

There is a written epilogue that includes a text version of deleted scenes and what happens to Lightning after the game... that is it.

This will sell two copies in Japan.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 6:51:33 PM

Apparently they are pissed over in Japan. They unloaded on Wada's twitter page.

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Underdog15
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 7:48:08 AM

Now they know how we feel.

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Orvisman
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 11:07:23 AM
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Translation. S-E will port this to the 360 like it did FFXIII.

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Highlander
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:04:44 PM
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He says "The debate over porting is decided by the management based off the current market and the costs."

In other words, it's not his decision if they do port it, but he wants everyone to know that it is a port *from* the PS3 once the PS3 version is complete. It kinda suggests that the decision is above his head.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 6:50:30 PM

We all know who hes talking about too.

Wada-jackass.

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Orvisman
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 9:17:40 AM

The announcement will come at the TGS... believe it.

This Tweet was his way of saying when S-E ports this and removes it from PS3 exclusivity, don't blame me. "I don't make those decisions."

Nomura, like Kojima, clearly favors Sony and its PS3 and PSP machines. When their games are ported to a M$ft machine that is not their decisions but their bosses' decisions.

Remember how unhappy Kojima looked when he appeared on M$fts' E3 stage to announce Rising. And how many times have we heard that he is hands off when it comes to Rising.


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RebelJD
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 1:17:19 PM
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After the numbers done by FFXIII on the 360 why even port Versus XIII to the 360? I say keep Versus XIII on the PS3, make it an awesome game and watch the game sell itself.

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Highlander
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 3:58:30 PM

Because the revenue from the 360 version outweighs the cost? Because Microsoft are paying?

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:45:38 PM


RebelJD,
Yup, what Highlander just said!!!

You don't think the MS's up-front slush fund payment to Wada hasn't already gone above & beyond what ever the 360 could lose in actual FF sales????

Somebody needs to stop Wada from rolling around in MS's greenbacks, cause he's really stinking up the company.....
like a wet dog who fell into a pool of solids at a "Westernized" waste treatment plant.

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Drake88
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 7:39:25 PM
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God forbids, if nomura moves this over to 360, square-enix can superbly go to hell. He's the last hope of jrpg gaming... and as with FFT,greatest ff game period. 8 is a fav as well.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:10:51 PM

Nah, Level 5 is doing great. DragonQuest IX is awesome, Ni No Kuni looks great too.

JRPG's aren't doomed...yet.

It's Final Fantasy that is doomed.

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DeathOfChaos
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:48:32 PM
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And more proof that Versus XIII will only be a PS3 game. If it's ported, it would have to be a book full of discs as well as maybe an hour's worth of game play on each disc or something. Seriously, like I've said before, the clouds alone are formed because of the processor in the PS3. With this in mind, porting the game to the 360 in itself would be too much work just to try and make clouds move, lol.

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Orvisman
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 9:18:07 AM

They did it with FFXIII.

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DeathOfChaos
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 1:00:59 AM

Yeah, and reconstruct the core fabric of the game entirely this late into development, sounds logical. That's like the ICO tam deciding that they should go ahead and port The Last Guardian to the DS or something, pretty logical.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, September 08, 2010 @ 8:50:16 PM
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Drake88,
Don't forget Atlus & NIS at taking RPG's to the masses too.

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Ar_tonelico
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 2:57:52 PM

Plus there's always Gust and Idea Factory.

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xenris
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 10:34:15 AM
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I have faith that this game will be great. Nomura never disappoints and actually listens and learns. Probably why Birth by sleep was so refined.

I am a huge Kingdom Hearts fan and Birth by Sleep just reaffirmed that Nomura knows what he is doing. If he can make in my opinion the best version of Kingdom Hearts on a PSP then he can surely make one of the best Final Fantasy games on the PS3.

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StriderX
Sunday, September 12, 2010 @ 3:36:59 AM
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I'm a big fan of Squaresoft Games ( yes Squaresoft not Square-enix) and I'm looking forward for this FF versus. However, after reading some of the comments I can't help but to remember the most impressive games to me:
To me the best top 6 games I played were:
FFVII
FFVIII
FFX
Xenogears
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross

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Shadow_Ninja
Sunday, September 12, 2010 @ 10:55:02 AM
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guys....don't get mad at me.....BUT I'VE NEVER PLAYED A FINAL FANTASY GAME!!!!

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D-Squad3
Sunday, September 12, 2010 @ 11:47:56 AM
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I highly doubt that Versus XIII will stay exclusive.

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