EA's Moore: No New Consoles For At Least 3 Years

So as we're five or six years into the new generation, people are already starting to ask: when will Sony and Microsoft release their next consoles?

Well, in a break from tradition (based on history), EA Sports president Peter Moore doubts either company will invest in a new system "for at least three years." The former Microsoft and Sega executive described PlayStation Move and Kinect as "tantamount to new platform launches" and adds that we're still "nowhere near mass market pricing." In speaking to Eurogamer, Moore admits that chronologically, we're in the last few years of previous cycles but in terms of pricing, it's only "mid-cycle."

"Over the years, $199 and below has been where 75 to 80 per cent of business is done. With the exception of 360 and the Wii, PlayStation 3, which seems to have a lot of momentum, is not even close to that.

So we're still to reach a price point across all three consoles where historically 75 to 80 per cent of business is done. Yeah, I think we're in mid-cycle."

Microsoft has already said Kinect will extend the 360's lifespan by five years and Sony claims this generation will definitely last longer than previous ones. Finished Moore:

"When you've got things like Move and Kinect, these are tantamount to new platform launches for both Sony and Microsoft respectively. I don't think they are going to be investing in new hardware 12 months, 24 months, 36 months after investing I'm sure a considerable amount of money in getting both of these platforms out."

Well, that's fine. We're not ready for a new generation yet, anyway. Developers keep saying they can get much more out of the PlayStation 3, and every Sony generation has been similar in one way- the last year or two gave us the most impressive titles - in terms of technological advancement - of the era.

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9/14/2010 12:18:13 PM Ben Dutka

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to_far_apart
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:33:56 PM
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Honestly, the idea of the new generation of consoles is always an exciting and engaging topic to discuss and dwell hours upon hours on, but the way games and media have transformed the past couple of years, I'm getting very excited to see what the big three will throw out at us next, specifically Sony.

But right now I'm content and thoroughly enjoying this generation. Keep them coming!

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Temjin001
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:36:54 PM
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You're a cool guy Peter Moore. I followed your lead even during the Dreamcast days. This is significant, too. Peter Moore is behind EA. They would be one of the first to know if new hardware was in the pipeline to be released in the coming years, because devs need a solid 2-3 years to produce launch titles.

And I'm fine with console hardware remaining static for a few more years. The amount of processing devs have these days can generate a wealth of gaming entertainment for many years to come. I think staying profitable is the biggest obstacle now as we can see what a lot of talent and multi-million dollar budgets can do for games like Uncharted 2 and GoW3.

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to_far_apart
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:40:40 PM

Exactly.

There's still a wealth of variety and exciting things to come.

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iamnosuperman
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:39:57 PM
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May be even longer in my opinion.....The next big step is digital distribution so will not come for decades due to infrastructure problems so a new format and some of the prototypes/theories are longer than 5 years off....I hope its longer because I couldn't afford a new console just started saving my points from GAME to make it cheaper and also the current content from the PS3 is great and is not ageing

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:42:54 PM
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Well, I suspect that Peter Moore knows more than most with respect the the plans of MS and Sony. That said, I don't at all agree that either Move or Kinect are tantamount to new platforms. Neither provide any performance improvements to the base platforms and are simply accessories. So, I think he's overstating their role a bit. I have no doubt that they have the potential to extend the life of the platforms, and as long as 1080p and 720p are the video standard in the home, there's really no need to go much further than the PS3 (or 360) anyway. Heck, even 3D can be done in 720p by the PS3, so there really isn't much call to update in terms of the capabilities that the platforms offer.

That PS4 is getting further away again. I still think that Sony will deliver a new platform in year 7 or 8 of the PS3's life. We're ending year 4 right now. So, look for something in 2013 or 2014 and rumors in late 2012.

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to_far_apart
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:47:53 PM

I agree. Peter Moore would know more with respect towards their plans. Like you Highlander, I don't feel that these new products, are tantamount to new platforms either, rather I see them as a product to help open the doors to a greater audience in gaming. Well, with respect to 3D, the technology is still young, so in contrast with your timeline, i think your projection would seem plausible. My own projections suggest a half a year or year earlier.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:51:31 PM

I think what makes this gen so much more significant is the value that's added to these platforms overtime. Maybe Kinect or Move, alone, won't extend the lifespan much, but the accumulation of all the other added support and services do. The PS3 today is much more robust than the PS3 was 3-4 years ago. Now, it does everything =) Well, except for washing dishes. That'd be nice to have. Come on Sony think of something =p

I also expect MS to make it's next-gen debut first. Seeing that MS gained considerable traction using this method for 360, I see them wanting to try and cuddle up to 3rd party devs and secure all those timed exclusives again on the next go around.

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Simcoe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:04:10 PM

Agreed, Move and Kinect are not new platforms but I can see them being carried over and useful in the next generation.

I too hope no new console releases before 2012.

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Shams
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:30:37 PM

I think MS and Sony both have considerable experience to know now that being the first to be released offers a significant advantage. PS2 was released before the xbox, as the 360 was released before the ps3. Of course, there are other factors involved, but i don't think anyone's denying this one.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:21:36 PM

It's still a gamble, the Dreamcast hit before the PS2 and thus became a mid-generation system.

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:32:34 PM

@Shams,

If MS release a new console that was not backwards compatible with the 360 and a year later Sony released a PS3 that could play every PS3 title made I believe that the advantage of a year's head start would be effectively nullified.

There have been persistent attempts to do some kind of universal console, but I don't honestly think that this will work. However I could definitely see the PlayStation brand itself effectively becoming a platform. they almost managed that this time round, and I think that with PS4 they may pull it off. If the PS4 arrived with complete PS3/PSN compatibility, it will be a drop in replacement for existing PS3 owners. The existing software support and eco-system that revolves around the PS3 isn't immediately invalidated, in fact it can continue to thrive, easy the cost and effort required to move to the updated PS4 platform.

The PS4 can offer distinct enhancements, such as really being able to run all games at 1080p60 with full AA, AF and HDR support (for example). So there would be reasons to upgrade, but like the PS3 I think it would be a slow burn. You'd literally have a two tier system based around the PS3 and PSN as the base, or entry level, and the PS4 would then be the 'hardcore' level.

I don't know if this is what will happen, but when I look and see that consumer TVs are going to stick at 720p/1080p for a long time, and 3D is coming in at 720p/1080p, there really isn't a reason for a major console upgrade. In fact, if Sony simply added a second Cell CPU (PowerXcell8i design of course) along with an updated RSX and more memory they could easily launch a relatively consumer friendly PS4 system with far more than double the performance of the PS3.

Sure you could go for some exotic CPU and GPU, but since 1080p is the target resolution, you'd be wasting a lot of resource. Which brings me back to the PS4, and an evolution of the PS3 design which takes advantage of everything already done for the PS3/PSN platform.

Of course, I may be looking at this with rose tinted lenses, and some insane person may want to try to force another decade long TV update cycle immediately the current one is over - but I doubt it. HDTV and HDTV in 3D is pretty much good enough for now and the foreseeable future.

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JackC8
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 3:36:46 PM

I also don't understand how Move and Kinect will extend the platforms' lifespans. They're accessories. They may bring in casual gamers, but I don't see it having some hugely significant effect on the hardcore audience, other than to make people say "This is pretty cool." I just don't get it.

I think the future lies with more processing power that allows AI characters to move and act in a more realistic and intelligent fashion, and of course there's plenty of room for more photo-realistic graphics.

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Shams
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 4:03:02 PM

@World,

Yeah, I think in DC's case, Sega didn't have the financial strength nor the infrastructure to support it. It was kind of the company's final attempt to make a splash in the industry. And they did. They made history. Unfortunately, they tanked while doing so.

@Highlander,
I agree b/c offers good coverage for a system at launch, but 360 didn't have much to speak of in the way of offering b/c, and people were fine with that because they had Halo and Gears. Where as people with their 60gig and 20gig ps3's felt that they didn't plunk down the extra cash just to play upscaled ps2 games. However, for the hardcore gamer, who has invested a lot in a previous generation library, and especially during this one as it has been more expensive, this is an important thing.

Regarding the architecture of the next ps3, I agree that Sony stands to benefit a lot from reusing much of the technology and infrastructure it has built up already. Keeping that in mind while opening one's view of the future of gaming 13 years from now is quite the balancing act, though, I'm sure. I also agree it might be reasonable to expect another wait until the next big paradigm shift in TV tech.

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 4:56:54 PM

@Shams,

It was the twin change of the advent of the digital distribution method and of HDTV that drove the current generation. Without a similarly fundamental driver I believe that the next upgrade cycle will be evolution not revolution. If towards the end of the next generation fully digital devices, or even higher resolution TVs, or other more exotic display technology comes along, then I can see another revolutionary cycle where there is a complete change of hardware. But without such fundamental drivers, there is little reason to do more than tweak the platforms and provide extra computing power to make 1080p60 easily doable.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:47:34 PM
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I take that as --

As long as the economy looks bleak, there will not be another new console.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:53:44 PM
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Whenever they decide to pull out the new consoles I hope Sony learns from it's mistakes when it launched the PS3 and resolves the issues with the PS4 launch.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:01:42 PM

Me too. Even as a Playstation loyalist I was put off by Sony's assumption that people would jump all over a $600 gaming console. In the end it was worth it to me. I love my 60gb model though Sony did a piss poor job convincing everyone else it was a good investment.

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Simcoe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:08:35 PM

Yeah, I don't think we will ever see a console launch at $600 again.

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Shams
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:47:01 PM

I kinda got lucky. I bought someone's 60gig ps3 with games and accessories as well as a product-replacement plan from Bestbuy all for $300. It wasn't playing my ps2 games correctly, so I went to Bestbuy that sameday and swapped it for a brand-spanking-new 60gig ps3, which played all my ps2 games better than my ps2 ever could. I remember the seller's old receipt totalled to over $900. So that was back in spring of '07, and $400 to $500 was way to expensive, even then. I remember when the ps1, as well as the ps2, were selling for $400 on their respective release dates, if i'm not mistaken.

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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:01:47 PM

yeah i think they've learned their lesson. i waited till the price dropped to 400 dollars. i refused to pay 500 or 600 for the console. i would have been worth it, but it way too rich for my blood.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:23:35 PM

Let's not forget the PSN was trash on release, now it is a robust and smooth experience and will be for PS4 as well.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 12:59:00 PM
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I get the feeling that if Kinect fails MS will try and prematurely jump start the next generation again.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:07:17 PM

Even if it succeeds I see them keeping the Kinect and 360 branded together to try and sustain that audience while they release their next-gen console for about $400 and transition over the more hardcore. I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 5 is readied for their next systems launch.

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Simcoe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:12:12 PM

Having the opportunity to try Kinect, I just don't see Kinect failing. I think Nintendo will be the casualty of both Move and Kinect. I think Nintendo will be first with the next console.

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SvenMD
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:12:31 PM

Exactly - It's funny how producing a crappy half-assed console and getting it to market before the competetition is actually a GOOD business decision thanks to the American consumer.

"But MOM, it's shiny and new!! I need it now! It even comes with this cool red blinking light on the front!!! Can I have it!??!"

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Temjin001
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:17:31 PM

Simcoe, yeah, I wasn't including Nintendo on that. I too think they'll launch their Wii successor first (they'd better the Wii's year-over-year sales is nose diving) They seem to have their own world of gamer these days. So, for me, it's really MS and Sony battling it out as decisions that one company makes will affect their competition. I don't see Mario or Metroid causing any decision changes on Sony or MS's part.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:50:25 PM

How can it not fail? $150 for a buttonless controller with nothing but shovelware for it at launch.

Oh wait, we are talking about MS fans. Nevermind. They would buy a turd wrapped in tinfoil with a hanger sticking out of it from MS.

I kid, I kid.

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Simcoe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:54:25 PM

@ Tanjin: Here I go getting off topic! Yes, Nintendo has always, and I think even more so since Gamecube, catered to those under 16 with Mario, Pokemon, etc.. Wii has also had success with those normally not interested in gaming. I see Kinect going more after that kid/casual (Nintendo) audience while Move tapping into a more broader audience (some casual and some serious gamers).

I think most people like us (gamers), always see it as a a Sony versus MS, because it's only really those two companies that cater to the serious adult gamer.

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:34:36 PM

@Simcoe, but unless Nintendo offer something significantly in advance of, or different to the Ps3, all they can do is offer a PS3 clone with a Nintendo badge and Mario/Zelda games. Even if they did that, it really doesn't tip the hand of either Sony or MS to bring a new console. Nintendo made themselves technologically irrelevant to the next console generation by failing to support anything beyond 480p in the Wii.

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B-RadGfromOV
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:41:26 PM
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Until we have a new format to use, we won't see interest in next gen consoles. I'm speaking of disc format. The PsOne had CD, then the PS2 had DVD, now the PS3 has Blu-Ray, but I don't see a new format coming out soon so there's nothing really new or different that could be accomplished by releasing new consoles.

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Lawless SXE
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:54:43 PM
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I think that the next Nintendo console wil release in 2012 at the latest. While the Wii is still going extremely strongly, its age is showing. It needs something to compete with the ps3/360 on the HD stage.

I would expect Microsoft to release a new console at about the same time, with Kinect built into. I just don't really see Kinect as being as profitable as they seem to think it will be, and so they'll need to increase it by increasing sales. That will very likely jack up the price. Just like this generation, they will want to get a head-start on Sony in the hope that they will be able to gain an insurmounatble sales lead.

If both of my above predictions are true, then I hope Sony uses a bit of common sense and doesn't rush the PS4 to market. I hope that it will release in 2014/15, so as to be something of a mid-gen console, thus likely boosting its sales. I think that it will feature an upgraded version of Move. Three years may seem a long time to wait, but in doing so they will be able to implement more emergent technologies into the device, or wait for existing technologies to drop in price making it cheaper. I also think that this is a good idea because by that point in time, people would be clamouring for a new console, and I just don't think another Slimbox would be able to hold up against the PS4.
Peace.

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:36:55 PM

That's sort of what they did with the squat. Kinect itself has no hardware component other than the composite optical/infra red camera system. The 360 handles all the processing work, so there is nothing to put into a new system. The squat has uprated USB ports so it can power the Kinect camera array, older 360s need an external power adapter. That's it.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 1:57:48 PM
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A game console like the PS3 is so much more than just a game console. It's a media centre that in addition to the obvious cd/dvd/blu-ray player supports network distributed media on your lan. It may only be something geeks use today but will be how all media are enjoyed in the near future. And it doesn't stop there, it even ready for the next generation tv and gaming with 3d support. With the right OS upgrades and services accordingly the PS3 has a potential lifespan that go far, far longer than the rather simple boxes that consoles were up until now.

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Killa Tequilla
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:19:03 PM
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Oh man im noot ready for a new generation yet. Ps3 still has alot to do. I think its still in the beggining. Theres so much more it can do. And will do. I still need to get 3DTV, that wont happen in the next few years. Took me a while to go from SD to HD. I like to be up to date, if theres a new generation or console I wont have the time or money to buy it and ill be oout of date. I like being up to date. Even if the next ps3 firmware update deletes the ability for your Ps3 to play DVD playback ill update. Because i like being up to date. BTW the was just an example I really dont think it will happen. Anyway Ps3 needs more than 3 Years for it to go to a new generation... It hasnt reached 50% of what it can do... It still has more to do. In my opinion. I love Sony, there the best. See i think of Sony as a knife and Microsoft as a gun... Remember what The Joker in the dark night said about a knife in that scene about the knife? well apply this to sony and microsoft. Hope you know what im talking about :D

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:28:23 PM
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Sounds about right. I also don't think the motion controls are that big a deal, but whatever. I can't see Kinect being a massive success unless every soccer mom who bought their kid a 360 buys kinect too because Kinect basically goes against everything the 360 gamer is.

While a PS3 owner would love to give Heavy Rain a shot with Move, the people who ignored Alan Wake almost completely of course aren't going to buy a peripheral that can only be used for super duper casual games when they need hardcore fast shooters.

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Killa Tequilla
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 3:37:00 PM

Your comment pretty much says " Screw Move! Lets Mw2!"

You don't have to buy Move, but you also don't have to give it a bad reputation, neither to Kinect. SPECIALLY SINCE ITS NOT EVEN OUT YET!
Have a FANTASTIC DAY! :D

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 4:39:27 PM

I think your English is farked up, I didn't say that at all.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, September 15, 2010 @ 9:19:11 AM

@Worlds
yup

@El Machete
whaaaaa???

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RebelJD
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:31:37 PM
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I'm happy to hear that developers and people in the gaming market understand that the PS3 has a life span far longer than systems before it.

It's not like it's the same system people bought in '06. It looks nicer, has a smaller GPU, has had numerous firmware updates, software upgrades, etc.

With Move coming out this week, that makes it another upgrade.

I'm glad that they're thinking about the consumer more so than they're thinking about the media. Price wise, it definitely isn't low enough for this to be mass market. When the PS3 hits the $200 range, it'll be a HUGE steal when it comes to purchasing a product worth every penny.

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StangMan80
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 8:58:59 PM

It's a steel now for $300.

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Amazingskillz
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:47:47 PM
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Tantamount is a pretty strong word to describe the impact of kinect and move. I think the PS3 is capable of going for another three years because its so equipped already. However, I heard that Blu Ray movies will be moving to a bigger data format which will not be usable on the PS3. The article even said a firmware update wouldn't do any good. If so we probably wont be able to watch new movies on the new Blu Ray format. Hopefully this isn't true.

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 4:04:46 PM

All that happened was that a higher capacity disc format was agreed. It doesn't alter the consumer format at all, so there is no worry, all existing consumer Bluray players will continue to play movies and PS3s will continue to play movies and games because the higher density data format is really not for consumer applications. It's more targeted at data applications. Even full 1080p in 3D doesn't use 50GB for a full length movie, so there is no danger of a problem here.

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Alienange
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 2:49:08 PM
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More seems to know exactly what he's talking about. To release new consoles now when both MS and Sony have just spent a fortune to keep up with the Wii would be foolishness on their part.

Call them peripherals if you want, the fortune made by Nintendo has forced the big boys to put a new spin on their machines to make them look more casual/family friendly. It's a lot more aggressive than simply releasing a peripheral.

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BigBoss4ever
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 3:42:26 PM
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I think the ps3 is getting closer to the prime of this gen, since the later part of the 2008, we had MGS4, LBP, GOW3, FF13, heavy rain, infamous, etc, tons awesome games have come out, we will have castlevania soon, the last guardian, mgs rising, ffv13, ff14. Just keep the flow, I am not even looking to the next gen consolr

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Underdog15
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 4:15:02 PM
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lol @ Kinect adding 5 years to the 360's lifespan! (or the Move for PS3 for that matter!)

If either system lasts another 5 years of good sales, it will not be due to the Kinect or Move.

That idea alone is strange for Microsoft. Do they mean 5 years longer than it would have lasted without Kinect? Or do they mean it will merely help keep it alive for next 5 years? Does that imply the 360 has nothing more to add at this point if it means 5 years from now?

My point, I guess, is the niether the Kinect nor the PSMove will add that kind of additional longevity to the systems. I can see it -assisting- in it's longevity, but it certainly would not be the cause.

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StangMan80
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 8:55:20 PM

LOL, I'm still laughing especially for the Kinect. No way motion comtroles can add 5 years!

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THEVERDIN
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 5:16:46 PM
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I hope that along with the new consoles they add money to my bank account, cause I'll be retired by then and on a fixed income.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 5:45:22 PM
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The most obvious reason why this gen will last longer?

Look at the budget for most of the AAA titles.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 6:36:52 PM
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The Kenect & the Move sensors may or may not have much bearing on upcoming console sales.

But since Sony & M$(not so much) have sunk so much time, research, & money into them, I'm sure both Sony & M$ will wait longer to bring out their next gen consoles.

And don't forget, you also have to factor into all this, the PS3's new-fangled 3D too.

I do think Highlander's time-line on nex-gen is right on the money.

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Hezzron
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 8:27:57 PM
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So what if developers are on the verge of maxing out the PS3's capabilities. It doesn't mean it's time to shelve the thing. Just keep the great games coming at it's highest level. That's what PS3 owners have been waiting for! There's nothing wrong with a machine finally reaching its full potential.

I've always liked Peter Moore. He seems like a reasonable guy. I'm happy he took that "promotion" to EA.

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StangMan80
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 8:53:17 PM

I see the PS3 improving for at least 2-3 more years(better graphics and game play).
The Wii never had room for improvement(it's a Game Cube w/ motion controllers).
The 360 might, might have some room for improvement, but I can't see it lasting more then two more years.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 8:39:35 PM
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The best PC graphics at the moment aren't the impressive.

It'll really take 3 or 4 years for graphics and overall processing power to be significantly better than today's consoles.

3 years is a fair number

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StangMan80
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 8:48:37 PM
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I can see the PS3 lasting 4-6 more years but Microsoft and Nintendo(based off of sells) needs consoles ASAP.
I now I'll be happy with my PS3 for a few more years, I plan on picking up a PS4 w/ GT6.

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___________
Wednesday, September 15, 2010 @ 4:33:21 AM
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yea that sounds about right.
sony and M$ have both spent a sh*t load of money on these consoles, there absolutely bleeding money ATM so there going to want to milk them for as much as they got!
move and kinect will certainly help extend their life span, but maybe 1 or 2 years nothing really drastic.
id say reveal 2013 and release 2014 anything before that is too early.
not to mention were in a recession, and well most people just bought a new console, not to mention new console comes with new tech so will probably need new TVs.
well, again, most people just bought new TVs and there not going to be rushing out to buy a new one thats for sure!
so A there is no need for any new consoles, RAGE, crysis 2 have proved there is plenty breath left in them!
B the companies, sony and M$ simply can not afford it any time soon!

ninty on the other hand they seriously need to release a new system!
the only thing they had going for them is motion controls, now both M$ and sony have that so they need a new gimmick.
if it supported HD than it would not be so bad, they would be fine with the wii because of its unique games.
but it does not, so IMO its unique games are not enough to heard the sheep in!

what we do need though is for developers to stop treating PC like the bastard child!
there is amazing tech out there, amazing hardware but no developer is using it!
we have basically had the PC benchmark for what 3 years now?
its time to move on, its time to say well if crysis can do what it did with 2007 hardware than this is what we can do with 2010 hardware!
and i mean with every developer, not the once in a blue moon like crysis 2 and RAGE.
sure im 100% positive both will push the PCs to their limit, BUT 2 games, well 2 games is not enough to warrant the price tag such gaming comes with!
i mean i just bought a new card, 1 470GTX cost me freaking 500 bucks!
if i want to play games in 3D, which i most certainly do than ill need another 470GTX at the least to get decent frames out of it!
so thats 1K spent on upgrading the system, not to mention the cash i spent on the original build!
all that just for 2 games?
yeah, soooooooooooooooo not worth it!

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alcrowley
Wednesday, September 15, 2010 @ 9:18:38 AM
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New console?? Sony just released the PS3 here last month!! And with jaw-dropping prices!

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/08/12/ps3-launches-in-brazil-costs-a-small-fortune/

They need to invest in developing countries. There’s a big market that doesn't get any attention at all, waiting for reasonable prices and support! So far neither of the 3 did it…

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Simcoe
Wednesday, September 15, 2010 @ 11:38:02 AM

The article you linked also states that much of the price is due to Brazil's high taxes and/or import tariffs. Perhaps you should contact to your elected representatives and ask why these tariffs are so high.

Somewhat related to what I said above and two your second point. I have a friend who has done business in Brazil and reports that there is a lot of "red tape" to deal with. Perhaps that is why it's taken the PS3 so long to make an official release in Brazil. Also, I'm sure long before Sony knew what those taxes and tariffs were and knew that not many people would be able to afford what needed to be charged.

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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 @ 3:31:39 PM
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"Microsoft has already said Kinect will extend the 360's lifespan by five years"

[HYSTERICAL LAUGHTER ENSUES]

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