PS3 Update 3.50 Disables Some Third Party USB Devices

Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:33:28 PM
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My USB cable came with the console so that should be okay right?

Many won't be pleased with this but hey, blame it on the PSJailbreak people.

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:44:39 PM

The USB cables are not the problem, USB cables are simply cables and will continue to work (unless there is something really odd about the cable). This change affects the controllers themselves, or controller adapters that allow third part controllers or non-PS3 controllers to work. I don't think this has been reported to affect USB storage devices. The only people this will affect is those using unlicensed accessories or fakes.

Fake controllers are unfortunately widespread, and are visually extremely close to the Sony originals. As for the unlicensed things, Sony specifically states in the warranty that the use of third party accessories is at your own risk, and Sony is not responsible for any damage that a third party accessory causes to you or your PS3. They are under no obligation to even support unlicensed accessories.

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Snaaaake
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 8:33:21 AM

Mr Highlander, you never ceased to amaze me.
Are you an engineer or something like that?

Serious question man.

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:21:38 AM

Hardware geek perhaps. The stars did not align right when I left university and I ended up going a different path (software development, support and more general IT and Business Systems), but I could (and would have enjoyed) going the hardware route.

So I keep up where I can with the hardware, and the PS3 has always been of interest to me, even before it existed, because of the Cell architecture which I think is awesome. In my career now, I am too far from the real nuts and bolts to move into hardware. I guess the best way to phrase it is that I know enough to be dangerous. LOL!

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:21:39 AM

Hardware geek perhaps. The stars did not align right when I left university and I ended up going a different path (software development, support and more general IT and Business Systems), but I could (and would have enjoyed) going the hardware route.

So I keep up where I can with the hardware, and the PS3 has always been of interest to me, even before it existed, because of the Cell architecture which I think is awesome. In my career now, I am too far from the real nuts and bolts to move into hardware. I guess the best way to phrase it is that I know enough to be dangerous. LOL!

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Snaaaake
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 10:08:07 AM

You sir......ROCK!!

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Beamboom
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 3:38:31 PM

Highlander do rock indeed, but really, you don't have to be a scientist to understand the difference between a cable and a hardware device. (Sorry I just had to let that off my chest. Call me a grumpy SOB by hitting the right thumb (literary speaking).)

But on topic: One thing I do wish the hardware manufacturers out there would just stfu about is making those stupid claims about anything but their products "may ignite or explode". For example a radio from Phillips, with label saying "only to be used with Phillips batteries". It's just so stupid.
Of course 3rd party controllers won't explode. Where is the source of that energy? Has anyone seen any 3rd party controllers with a packet of c4 attached lately? All they will do is make Sony potentially sell one less controller.

Last edited by Beamboom on 9/25/2010 3:39:47 PM

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jimdude99
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:35:34 PM
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Well this is kind of annoying now my 15 dollar gamestop controller won't work.

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Underdog15
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:11:12 AM

Not necessarily. There are third party controllers and accessories out there that ARE licensed by Sony. Some have been advertised out here.

The big ones are the fakes trying to be LIKE the sony stuff. Usually you can find them made in China or up for purchase on EBAY shipping from somewhere like Hong Kong.

Basically, just do your research. Turtle Beach accessories should still work swimmingly, for example.

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frostface
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 5:38:48 AM

I have a Turtle Beach USB headset and it works just fine, even since the update.

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FxTales
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:40:12 PM
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I can't really blame people for buying a non-sony controller. I haven't bought one myself but heck a regular controller costs the same as a new game so it can be tempting I guess.

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:53:29 PM

Sadly, the old adage that you get what you pay for is pretty much true.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:09:22 PM

Third-party typically equates to junk. Just remember that.

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main_event05
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:28:45 AM

MADcatz FTW!!

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fluffer nutter
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:41:13 AM

Toys R Us had a sale over a month ago and many people got colored DS3's for $26.99. The deals are out there.

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manofchao5
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 10:59:27 PM

you can get the controllers for $40-45 if you know where to look
3rd party controllers are generally crap because they have a plug in dongle that takes up the usb ports so alot of the new users have even less reasons to buy one
i have the old ps3 with 4 usb ports and i do not want to waste a port on ir or 2.4ghz when i got blutooth quality

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Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:42:11 PM
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I'm seeing google ads for......PS3 usb jailbreak.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:44:46 PM

google generates crap out of everything

If we all type "..." they'll even have ads for that.

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:54:50 PM

You mean those things that are blocked by an injunction and disabled by firmware? Perhaps Sony needs to sue Google for advertising something that is clearly sold for illegal purposes...?

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Underdog15
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:12:22 AM

They may have, lol. Now I'm getting ads that say "Page is not available".

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Mandalorion382
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:44:03 PM
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@Ben Dutka,
I am not sure if you already know of this device but would this effect the eagle eye converter? If you have not heard of it here is the link mate http://www.ps3vault.com/eagle-eye-converter-to-upset-balance-in-online-fps-multiplayer-12005

Thanks in advance.

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Underdog15
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:14:15 AM

Hey, maybe I can field this for you.

Although I'm not sure about that particular device, I would do some quick research. There are still non-sony companies, like Turtle Beach, who make accessories for the PS3 that are still licensed by Sony.

Please note: This update does NOT mean you may only use items with a SONY brand name on it. It merely needs to be licensed by Sony for use. Many PROFESSIONAL accessories WILL work!

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:27:14 AM

The target in this is not so much 3rd party accessories as it is counterfeit controllers/accessories and of course devices capable of being programed to act in the same way as the cloned service keys. Sony appears to have done a decent job in their targeting. But because it's a relatively imprecise target, there will be some cases where a perfectly legitimate device stops working.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:45:21 PM
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Fine with me, the DS3 is the second best controller out there, second only to the DS2.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:46:51 PM

Is there any difference?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:46:54 PM

Don't like the triggers?

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Vitron
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:50:54 PM

Aside from being wireless?

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Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:52:50 PM

Wirelss is sweet but when it fall you really have no chance of saving it.

My DS3 fell down a lot while my DS2 fell down but hit the floor less often cause I can grab the wire.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:01:17 PM

Snaaaake are you a crackhead or something? Why do your controllers keep falling on the ground?

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Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:04:32 PM

I don't wanna talk about it World........*sniff* it's just a bad habit of putting too many stuff on the table and then some might get pushed off when I tried to grab another.

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Vitron
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:07:55 PM

Oh.. you really need to fix your stuff.

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SvenMD
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:11:36 PM

Snaaake that's the weirdest excuse for not liking a controller.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:14:36 PM

I love my DS3!!!

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Milonakis
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:11:02 AM

maybe you should color code your accesories with fox dye so that you see them and don't hit them off the table.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:37:38 AM

Or alter them to emit green smoke... just sayin.

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Scarecrow
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:02:26 PM

Those DS3 triggers are horrendous

What the hell was Sony thinking? The DS2 is perfect in every way.

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b3mike
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:45:25 PM
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"Hacking attempts"

Ps3 is hacked lol

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:40:28 PM

No, it isn't, not really. If it was hacked you could by a retail unit with firmware 3.5 and on it in Debug mode and play game backups. But you can't. So it's *not* hacked. I also dispute the description of PS Jailbreak as a hack. It's nothing of the sort it is a service key that was obtained by people who promote piracy and then cloned and some cobbled together backup utility.

Incidentally, PS Jailbreak (and the open source versions) is now blocked, legally and technically.

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Underdog15
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:17:11 AM

@Highlander

Yeah, but... It's so much easier to throw around random un-researched accusations! If I wanna be uneducated, than by golly it's my whatever amendment right to do so! (Sorry, not American. Would know an amendment if it was rolled up and smacked me on the bottom.)

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Underdog15
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 7:27:15 AM

*wouldn't

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:46:16 PM
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This disabled my Dualshock3's wireless abilities, which I believed to be genuine. It, however, must have been counterfeit. Even though it came from China, it was identical and even had identical packaging. I was super pissed.

So I went to Walmart today and bought a Red one which I ordered some accessories for (jacket, thumbstick grips, triggers) to turn it into my IronMan controller!

DS3s are wayyyyy overpriced. Don't buy any off Ebay, they are all fake.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:48:44 PM

Made in China!!!!!
Most things made in China are crap.

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Cpt_Geez
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:59:54 PM

@ world trade your control that doesnt work in at gamestop and get store credit for it. You can then use the credit to buy another ds3 or game later on.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:02:51 PM

Actually snaaaaake, the REAL DS3's are made in China.

@Cpt_Geez: Shhhh, I was gonna do that anyway at Walmart but I prefer not to raise the ire of certain... people by mentioning it.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 9/23/2010 10:03:07 PM

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Snaaaake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:06:15 PM

My PS3 is made in China lol.
For the most part, things from China are crap.

But of course, official stuff aren't crap.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:18:54 PM

You have to get the official Sony slave labor out of the Chinese, the knock off slaves just can't hack it.

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Cpt_Geez
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:27:44 PM

@ world lol official slave made china controllers

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BikerSaint
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:10:05 AM

World, glad to see you got the red one, & not this one by mistake, LOL....

http://www.thealistdaily.com/news/pink-made-shocking/

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BikerSaint
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 9:55:13 PM
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Oh Crap,
After this 2358MB demo is finished D/L'ing, I better go charge up my 3 extra Nyko & my Intec controllers to find out if they're still working.

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:51:55 PM

They are if they are licensed accessories. But I bet that a large variety of wireless (not BlueTooth) controllers will be covered by this because they use a USB transceiver that most likely is targeted by this - unless they are licensed peripherals. Not sure how Sony is doing that though.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:04:13 PM
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Oh yeah, if you plug your controller in and the LEDs for 1 & 2 light up you've got yourself a fake.

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SvenMD
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:14:11 PM
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It's not that I'm against 3rd party controllers. I just don't like the way they look, so I've always bought the Sony controllers. (Really wishing I had bought the white DS3 when I had the chance)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:19:35 PM

3rd party ones always seem to be made out of crap materials too. Feels icky in my hands.

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Milonakis
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:07:17 AM

the ones their targeting look and feel exactly like ps controllers but are made in sweatshops and with fake ps certifications so that they feel like a replica

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:38:21 AM

Gotta tell ya, I can't tell the difference between the knock offs and the real deal.

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Simcoe
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 11:12:29 AM

@Sven I didn't realise that the white ones were hard to come by. I remember seeing them just last week.

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SvenMD
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:00:49 PM

Simcoe - really? I only see blue and red ones now....maybe I need to go look again!

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Rhys Keyne
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:14:38 PM
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My PS3 won't recognize my phone anymore... I use the PS3 to transfer music to it, and now that's out. At least it still recognizes my external HDD. If they messed that up, there would be a RIOT.

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:49:29 PM

Your phone contains a programmable USB micro controller that can be used (with appropriate software) to emulate an authentic service key for the PS3. This is how the Open Source version of the 'Jailbreak' worked. Sony is blocking such devices to protect the PS3 and PSN. I would guess that your USB HDD does not contain a controller that Sony believes is able to be used to attack the PS3.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:56:00 PM

TheHighlander ladies and gentleman, he never ceases to amaze.

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Rhys Keyne
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 3:53:48 PM

Thanks Highlander; I don't feel so bad anymore! Hopefully they just patch what's letting hackers do the exploit.

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Proxy
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:34:57 PM
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The thread on Neogaf on this story annoys me greatly.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:41:23 PM
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Just checking, I read the entire article. My Logitech USB headset is okay, right?

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:46:57 PM

I'm not sure, but I think this targets primarily controllers and controller adapters, though I wouldn't be surprised if it also affects USB hubs. I guess you'll need to try it out.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:50:33 PM

I'm lazy, come on!

::looks at headset and ps3, both 5 feet away::

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Highlander
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:52:30 PM

Dude, me too, I was hoping you'd have tested it by now and then I wouldn't have to!

;)

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:45:23 AM

Alright LV,

I tested the Logitec headset - at least the one I have, and it works fine, as does my Seagate 1TB external HDD. So the disablement of devices seems pretty well targeted to me.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:53:31 AM

Wonderful, thanks for the update Highlander. I'll test out my gear after I'm done watching Jersey Shore.

:)

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:30:18 AM

Sweet my headset still works and I checked on of my 2TB Fantom externals and it still registers with the PSM. I stream everything though so it wouldn't piss me off too much if it hadn't registered.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:38:50 AM

Jersey Shore is a blight on mankind.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 2:02:56 AM

Whatevs... The people have grown on me and I enjoy watching their drama. I used to enjoy the RealWorld but it grew stale.

Honestly, it seems those that bash the show either don't care for the format or have never watched an episode.

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SvenMD
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 6:27:46 AM

Or we just don't care to watch greased up meat heads try to hook up with skanky drunk chicks. Or on the flipside, watch their slutty chicks hook up with random guys and then "regret" it in the morning.

Haha, as you can tell I've seen 1 or 2 shows. I prefer World of Jenks..... It's interesting.

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Orvisman
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 8:20:18 AM

I just have to point out that none of those Jersey Shore meatheads are actually from Jersey.

They are all New York born and bred, Brooklyn I believe, Guidos.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 11:43:31 AM

Actually Orvis, Sammi is the only one from Jersey. Angelena and Vinnie are from Staten Island. Vinnie is from RI and Mike is from NewYork. Regardless they're all Italian (minus Snoookie, she was adopted) and it's an entertaining show.

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sawao_yamanaka
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 4:21:06 PM

LV jershey shore? I'll let you slide since you let me slide on Blaster Master.

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Milonakis
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:42:50 PM
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Lol, I just about bought four chinese knockoffs straight from hong kong. I was literally four clicks away.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:51:00 PM

You're never going to win the lottery now. You used up all your luck :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:57:39 PM

The interesting thing is I bought mine after update 3.0, which was supposedly the one that disabled knock offs. I always wondered if it worked because I synced it after the update. Still, doesn't matter cuz there's always another update around the corner. Glad you had better luck than I.

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Hezzron
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:57:11 PM
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Cripes. There goes my USB powered toaster. Now what the hell am I gonna do with all these Eggos?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 10:58:16 PM

Get a 360 and cook them on it.

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Hezzron
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:01:04 PM

I like them "well-done", not "incinerated".

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:38:57 PM

HA! You made me laugh my ass off Hezzron.

Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 9/23/2010 11:39:05 PM

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Underdog15
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:21:32 AM

RROD makes good sauce.

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Milonakis
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:04:15 AM

I'd rather use a toaster that doesn't sound like a jet engine taking off.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:00:22 PM
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I wonder if my PC Airflo controller will still work. Those things are neat, I love the fans that keep your hands cool.

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Zemus101
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:23:52 PM
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I hope my 80gb external hdd works okay. I'll have to give it a try later on.

On an unrelated note, Netflix on my PS3 is awesome! Finally was released in Canada and I couldn't be happier. I can't believe I've never seen Superbad, where have I been? I thought I've seen this before but ...nope

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:40:03 PM

Glad to hear you're enjoying Netflix. How bummed are you that FFXIV isn't coming out till March?

Oh and an 80gig external...I didn't know they sold them that small.

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Zemus101
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 2:57:13 PM

I'm not all that bummed about FFXIV coming out in March anymore. I was when I first heard that though. The game should be a much better experience by early 2011 and hopefully the PS3 version will be bug free and such.

Oh, I upgraded my 80gb PS3 with a 250gb hdd a few months ago, so I bought an external drive to put my 80gb in so I could still use it.

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SnipeySnake
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:49:27 PM
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Does this mean my usb keyboard wont work?

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:47:26 AM

Your keyboard will probably be OK, This seems to be targeted at two things. Smartphones and other devices with the capability of being programmed to act like a USB service key, and counterfeit controllers. Unless your keyboard is an absolute no-name that was produced in tiny numbers with a non-standard chipset, you should be OK.

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DeadReaper
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 11:57:54 PM
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Thank god my external hard drive still works on it so I can backup my game data. Keyboard still works, PS2 racing wheel(with PS2 to PS3 USB adapter) also works.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:36:01 AM
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Glad my wireless keyboard works.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 2:10:07 AM

Why?

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slimey
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 2:11:56 AM
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I've seen a couple of reports of official Guitar Hero peripherals not working, but i'm not sure if this is true.
They must be licensed by Sony?

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 2:44:56 AM

They might be peripherals from the PS2 connecting through an adapter. Some of the adapters don't work - apparently.

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Fane1024
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 3:51:01 PM

Yeah, my DS2-USB adaptor isn't working now; I guess it wasn't licensed.

Bugger. Now I'm going to have to charge my DS3 more often. I guess that old Sixaxis is going to get some use as well.

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A2K78
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 3:22:54 AM
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This is going to hit the joystick modding community very hard. When I say the joystick modding community, I'm speakig about individuals like myself who build custom joysticks as oppose to buying the low grade crap Hori tends to make.

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Calibre53
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:14:29 AM

You hit the nail on the head, both of my sticks have stopped working. They receive power but thats it. Not happy about all of this.

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___________
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 3:37:01 AM
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explode?
oh, you mean like how the sony vio laptops exploded, in such a large scale sony had to do a recall a few years back?
maybe people would not have to buy 3rd party products if sonys were not so god dam expensive!
why a DS3 is 40 bucks more than a 360 controller is beyond me!
and this is M$ were talking about, i thought they were the price gougers!

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Orvisman
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 8:22:28 AM

LOL.

Why don't you get your facts straight troll. The Ps3/360 controllers are the same price, at least here in the U.S.

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Calibre53
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:11:51 AM

Not sure about your price quotes, but the DS3 is certainly crazy money.

Last edited by Calibre53 on 9/24/2010 9:14:47 AM

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:43:52 AM

Since Sony has had experience with the problems of Lithium Ion battery manufacture, they are more intimately aware of the issues than most, and counterfeit controllers use batteries assembled by semi-starved sweatshop workers with no reason to care about quality. Heck, the controllers themselves are assembled by semi-starved sweatshop workers with no reason to care about quality. So perhaps you can cut Sony some slack on this one.

Sony's controllers have always been high quality in my experience. I've had mad Catz and Logitect controllers that lasted a few monehts before breaking. I've had no-name PS2 controllers that felt great and broke in months.

The worst thing that's ever happened to a Sony controller of mine (other than a cat eating the rubber off the top of an analog stick or biting the cord) is the rubber top of a control stick wearing off. I've also had one controller where the plastic analog stick itself wore down and started to stick - I replaced it with one from an old DS2 controller and it's been fine ever since (2 years). But in general Sony controllers last very well - at least in my experience.

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___________
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:46:09 AM

how about you get your facts straight first hypocrite.
how many times must i say i dont live in the US i live in AU?
how many?
will 8000 trillion times be enough?
how about 9000 trillion?
you know the world does not revolve around the US you know, there are other countries out there despite what sony would have you think.

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SvenMD
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 10:15:08 AM

Why wouldn't you just say 8 quadrillion? or 9 quadrillion? They're real numbers you know.

But honestly I had no idea you were from Austria, that's cool....I love Eastern Europe.

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 10:28:22 AM

AU - Australia... ;)

My Austrian friends are reeling from your Eastern Europe comment though...

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SvenMD
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:02:01 PM

eh, I like to have fun.

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 1:07:56 PM

Indeed, I knew....

There was an emoticon.

Oh, won't somebody think of the smilies.

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Rhys Keyne
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 4:05:01 PM

@_________,
If you take good care of your controllers, paying that much for a DS3 should happen once in a blue moon or when pigs fly. If you need to color coordinate with your clothes, then it REALLY sucks for you to live in AU. Nothing against you or AU, but I'm just saying... >.>

Last edited by Rhys Keyne on 9/24/2010 4:05:37 PM

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Lawless SXE
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 6:00:03 PM

Last time I checked, 360 controllers were 72, while DS3 are about 99. So yeah, big difference, but not 40 bucks. But then, you can also get controller-game bundles for the DS3 for 110, one including UC2, so you're better off getting the bundles really. That's just what I've seen though.
Peace.

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Fane1024
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 4:02:31 PM

__________,

If you'd just put AUD after any price you quote, people wouldn't misunderstand.

The same applies to anyone who lives in a country which uses dollars that aren't on par with the US dollar.

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Effi
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 3:46:44 AM
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.. i want OtherOS back... T.T

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:30:27 AM

Not going to happen unless you can find an older unit with a pre 3.21 firmware revision.

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tes37
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 6:34:19 AM
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I've never bought third party controllers. I have friends who bought third party controllers in the past and I got to try them out. They were all junk and lacked the quality of Sony's controllers.

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Imagi
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 7:37:39 AM
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I have always found PS3's support of USB storage devices sadly lacking.

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Gone
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 7:49:41 AM
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So this is why there is no Gameshark or Action Replay this generation.

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Snaaaake
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 8:27:08 AM

God I missed Gameshark, level 99 when I begin a new game in FFIX?

Good memories.

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Snaaaake
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 8:28:13 AM
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USB flash drive still works right?

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Highlander
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 9:29:38 AM

I'd think that the majority do, but those that include some processor capability on-board may not. So multi-purpose USB devices that include storage and another function on-board may be affected, but pure storage devices are probably OK.

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Alienange
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 12:06:00 PM
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What do you think of your precious PlayAsia now? Saved $10 on the price of a DS3 did you? Glad to see Sony dishing out what people deserve.

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tes37
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 3:15:14 PM

I looked up PlayAsia's website one time. That place is a joke. I do all I can to avoid sending money to China. Too bad Sony and the rest of the world love that cheap labor.

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Scarecrow
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 3:38:55 PM
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The original ps1 controllers and the Dualshock(1) were all made in Japan... (my ps1 Dualshock still works)

But when ps2 came out they switched to making them in China. Went through MANY DS2s...

Have gone through 3 or 4 DS3s...

They should seriously go back to making them in Japan.

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tes37
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 3:57:52 PM

I agree.

China has never changed it's position on copyright infringement and piracy. They see it as no big deal and think they should be able to profit from cheaper copies of someone's product.

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RebelJD
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 5:36:41 PM
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This is good. There are way too many knock-off controllers cluttering online that it makes it impossible to get a good deal on a Dualshock3 PS3 controller. All third-party licensed controllers will and should work just fine.

Those generic "dualshock3" controllers need to go. One up for Sony.

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StevieRV
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 7:21:57 PM
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damn, i bought a controller off ebay that looked legit, but it was fake, it uses a USB receiver, now it doesnt work, oh well, into the bin it goes lol

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BikerSaint
Friday, September 24, 2010 @ 10:36:34 PM
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I've noticed that since this 3.50 update, when my DS3's battery is low & I try to play a game while recharging it with the cord, my DS3 keeps turning off & I have to keep hitting the PS button 10 to 15 times during the first 5 to 10 minutes of game-play.
But after those 10 minutes, it stays synced up & plays OK.

BTW, I do use the "Rock Band" 4-USB hub as a "go-between piece" in order to double the length of my charging cord so I can sit at the over end of the living room where my computer is, & check my email though.
But I've never had this happen before the 3.50 update, so hope Sony fixes it.

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Highlander
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 8:03:38 PM

Well, I'm not sure about that one, it could be a coincidence and your controller's battery is simply aging, or perhaps something about the way the USB port is handled has changed and the controller isn't getting quite as much juice as it was before and isn't charging quickly enough to keep up with you?

When it comes to Lithium Ion batters, one thing that everyone seems to either forget or misunderstand is that unlike the nickel cadmium or nickel metal hydride batteries we used to have Lithium Ion and Lithium Ion Polymer batters do not like to be fully discharged before charging. In fact fully discharging a Lithium based battery can damage it and shorten it's life. To keep a Lithium ion or Lithium ion polymer battery in good condition, charge it whenever it goes below about half charge. It will last longer and preserve a better charge.

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xnonsuchx
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:38:12 AM
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As long as they don't start banning 'unfavorable' USB storage devices like M$ did! Storage is one area where PS3 kicks 360's ass...easily-replaceable, ANY SATA HD, ANY FAT32-formatted USB storage device (instead of limited use of only SOME USB storage devices).

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Temjin001
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 12:10:05 PM
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man, all the crap PS3jailbreak has caused because of their stupid hack. Now so many people have major compatibility problems with USB devices.
Shame on the people who made it and all the media sites that propagated it's existence.

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Lemon_Saint
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 10:26:06 PM
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I bought an "official" Sony DS3 from Amazon back in May, (mostly for backup or for when friends came over), and upon arrival, noticed it looked exactly the same, but it felt, well, different. The edges were sharper, the buttons were a bit squishy feeling, and when you synced it to the PS3, you could see the LED's through the plastic. Also, there was a bit of a lag when inputting any commands. I don't normally complain about things, so I let it go.

Then the update happened. Of course, the fake DS3 would turn on the system, but then after flashing for about a minute, it shut off. Man, I was pissed! I went online to Amazon and saw I had bought it from a distributor with an Amazon storefront named "PROATM". I wrote him a lengthy email, (not implying that he was a con artist, but giving him the benefit of the doubt), explaining the situation with his wares. Only after I hit send did I look through his feedback ... mostly positive, (over 95%), but the ones that were negative all cried foul/fake. So, I decided to look at his storefront to see if he was still selling them ... Amazon had already disabled it. Then I tried to use Amazon's "A-Z guarantee", but it spit an error message back at me that it was over the 90 day period.

I wasn't going to give up, so I called Amazon's customer service dept., ... and they were mad cool! They extended the guarantee and refunded my money, even though they didn't make the sale off of it. Even with how crummy a situation this is, it was awesome that there is still a company that has great customer service.

.... how sad is it that it's an event to get excited over that a company still treats customers right?

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mattrl
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 11:41:28 AM
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Well, I have been reading at this site for a few years and have posted only once before, but here I feel I must add my 2 cents. By eliminating 3rd party device support Sony is reducing the capabilities of their system, and also limiting it's usefulness, which is 180 deg from the direction they started with; a single set top "black-box" for everything.
My big issue is the overall lack of Ir support. I own and operate a custom electronics installation business, we install home theaters, multi-room audio and video distribution, home automation & security etc. etc. Aside from its gaming capabilities the PS3 is a HD multi-media server client capable of streaming from both local and internet based media servers, a 3D blu-ray player and web-client all in rolled into one for under $400, these components separately would cost several thousand dollars and you would have 3 or 4 big boxes in your cabinet rather than the relatively tiny PS3.
So far the only way to get Ir on PS3 was to purchase a third party Ir remote with a USB Ir receiver and even with this you can't turn the system on or off. Ir is the way ALL home theater and home entertainment components are controlled, except the PS3 of course. So eliminating 3rd party devices would make integration of a PS3 into a whole home multi-media system downright impossible and now I even have to tell my clients who do have a PS3 to avoid the 3.50 update until we can test their 3rd party equipment with the new FW.
I have many clients that refuse to buy a PS3 for blu-ray use/capabilities simply because it doesn't have Ir and therefore they can't control it with their universal remote, whole-home Ir system or home automation equipment without an un-licensed 3rd party product(home auto could be done over RS-232 but the PS3 doesn't have that either and this would require hardware modifications).
So Sony, now hear this: Ir! Ir! Ir! where the hell is the Ir? If Sony truly wants market penetration they need to stop focusing solely on gaming for like even 2 seconds and add a little flexibility to the system's usage capabilities, a Licensed Ir to USB or Ir to WiFi converter would have no affect on the PS3 hardware, they don't have to make or sell it, and all of a sudden they open up a door on a whole new market. In short, if you want everyone to use your console, make it so everyone can use it, not just gamers. Add Ir support already.

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