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Ninja Theory On Dante's New Look: "Change Is Scary"

"Less over-the-top fashionista and more hard-edged." That's how Ninja Theory responded to the request to overhaul Dante in the new Devil May Cry.

Lead Producer Alex Jones and Chief Creative Director Tameem Antoniades of Ninja Theory were tasked with the following: give the world a re-imagined, overhauled Dante, one that will somehow manage to appeal to both new and old fans alike. Now, the initial reaction wasn't overly positive but both developer and publisher "were anticipating a strong reaction and fan skepticism," so that's why Rey Gutierrez of the PlayStation Blog sat down to learn more. You can find the brief interview through the link, and maybe you'll agree with the comments and approach. Evans said they'll "keep what's recognizably essential about the title," and he admits that people are "super passionate about a character that has become an icon." Antoniades also talks a lot about why DMC became so popular - it's more about the attitude and style, which is true - so these guys are well acquainted with the revered action franchise.

See what you think. As they say, they know "change is scary" and they don't think they'll "win over the hardcore" just yet. And they remind us that it isn't a "totally different departure" and will "fit in with most of what you know."

Related Game(s): Devil May Cry

Tags: devil may cry, dmc, ninja theory, capcom, dante

9/25/2010 10:19:01 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (115 posts)

oONewcloudOo
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 10:39:23 AM
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i dont mind the world just change dante he looks horrible

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Kai200X
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 2:43:18 AM

He actually looked like Tameem Antoniades, the chief creative from Ninja Theory.

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Underdog15
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 11:25:38 AM

no way, guys. He looks like BJ Novak!

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Kai200X
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 10:45:02 AM
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I'm a pretty open-minded person, even though I wasn't crazy about new Cole, I still willing to give it a chance, but I'm glad SuckerPunch changed him back. Regarding Dante, I have the same approach.

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archs13
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:24:28 AM
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i dont like the new look.. he almost looks like a younger version of vamp with gothic styled clothes which is pretty bad.. in my opinion

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fluffer nutter
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 12:23:59 PM

He looks like he doesn't eat because he wants to fit into his girly jeans.

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Jawknee
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:58:17 PM

LOL. girl pants. next DMC he will be wearing Manpris.

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aaronisbla
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 12:27:15 AM

he does this, i'll never touch the game

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GuardianMode
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:26:05 AM
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Sorry not buying that. The new Dante is a sell out. If they are going to keep him like this then this game is a pass.

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Deleted User
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:32:58 AM
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@GuardianMode Its called try before u pass.

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GuyverLT
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:37:17 AM

theres no point in trying 2 convince these crybabies anymore 2 try before you buy if they wanna skip out then it's their lost.

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Wissam
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:45:49 AM

@The Guyver
These cry babies are the ones who supported
DMC games. and who made it a successful series.
This game and the new dante is a pain to watch buddy.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 12:58:26 PM

@Wissam,

Exactly, without their fans DMC would be nothing.

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Clamedeus
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 4:49:53 AM

Guys don't pay attention to Guyver he likes to insult people because people don't view things the way he does.

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GuyverLT
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 10:17:52 PM

@Clamedeus Hey Capcom & Ninja Theory don't pay attention to Clamedeus or any of these other guys they like to insult you because you don't view things the way they do.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 6:38:04 AM

Hey Guyver, you know what my answer to that is? They don't get my money.

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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 5:26:13 PM

@Clamedeus well with all the negative feedback this game has gotten from it's now former hardcore fan base, it looks to me like hardly any of you on here wouldn't buy it even if they did make Dante look the way he used to.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 5:34:13 PM

You are missing the point, if they changed him back to the way he used to be we would buy it. That's what we are saying.

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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 5:45:53 PM

@Clamedeus I understand perfectly! you are basically saying that even if this game had a awesome story & better gameplay you wouldn't at least give it a rent unless they change the character back. Well that's just selfish, I mean really all this fuss over a videogame character redesign, honestly that's the same as small children who throw temper-tantrums cause they can't get their way.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 6:11:50 PM

It's no where near as a temper tantrum, I'm not breaking anything or swearing i just voiced an opinion.

And of course I'm going to have a back lash on the game because It does not look like Dante or resemble him that i know and love. People don't like change in a character you grew fond of and followed from the beginning. It's like changing Mario into Bomber Man with a plumber suit but throws bombs to lay out pipes.

I like my characters to stay the same i don't care for change in gameplay, but in a character i don't like.

You see where I'm coming from?

Because if you don't this conversation shouldn't be going on if you don't understand how i feel about it.


I was replying to this on your other post

"it looks to me like hardly any of you on here wouldn't buy it even if they did make Dante look the way he used to. "

Which the hardcore players would. So if you understand that then why say, "they wouldn't buy it even if they did make Dante look the way he used to."

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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 6:56:50 PM

@Clamedeus It IS exactly the same thing as throwing a fit like little kid if you say you don't like it when the character has changed & you're so openly against it(or as you say voicing your opinion) & then basically giving the developers an ultimatum that if the don't changed the character back then you won't buy the game. It's the same thing thing as throwing fit like a little child, no matter how you put it. There is no way to get around that fact.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 8:43:20 PM

Guyver read the whole thing, i hope you know where I'm coming from, from this.


Because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are throwing a temper about it, they are voicing a civilized opinion about why they don't like it.

You can have a temper about someones opinion though.

The new look doesn't please me at all, i have the right to buy something or not to buy something, this DMC doesn't interest me since it's a reboot, i would rather have an original DMC game than a reboot like this one. If you don't like that then I'm going to have to kindly say its not my type of game.

I don't know what to tell you but it's tough, just take it how you will and move on, I have a strong connection to characters in a game I've been playing for a long time, maybe i would give it a chance if the hair was customizable or something or in a DLC, and how do we know that he looked like that when he was young? there can be other possibilities when he was younger, i would much rather the creator of DMC to actually have a hand in this project, if he was in it then i might have gotten interested since it's another developer handling it i don't think it would appeal to me.

Who knows, we still have time to wait to see what will tip me over into playing it. And i will wait and see until then.

No disrespect or hard feelings or anything man, but that's just how i am i don't like characters changing like that it's hard on hardcore supporters seeing something like this it takes time to win them over but I'm waiting to see what they have to do that.

I hope you understand this.



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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 9:19:24 PM

@Clamedeus This is just my thoughts, but maybe as you unlock Dante's new powers in this game or whatever it slowly turns his hair back white because his inner demon awakens little by little, I'm just saying you never know. Just think about it! But still If you were that uninterested in this new DMC then why bother comment 2 begin with. If it was me & I was uninterested, as soon as I heard the word reboot knowing how much I loved the original DMC series; I wouldn't have even bothered wasting my time watching the trailer let alone taking the time out to share my thoughts in public thread discussion. This is just what I would do if it was me. That's why I don't get attached specific video game characters, I just try to worry about whether or not the game is any good. You never know when the developers might decide to change them or not, even though it doesn't happen that often.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 10:08:39 PM

I didn't know it was a reboot, before i watched it though that's why. But I'm just going to do the waiting game to see what happens and what is included in the game etc.

This was like a day or 2 after the video was released. Until i actually read the interview of what was going on, i was just excited because i thought it was going to be another Devil May Cry game, but then i looked at the character and he was changed so i read it and it said reboot so i was like ah, so that's why.

But hell, if it interests me a little more as i see it i might just try it out to see what the story is about.

It's hard for me not to connect with a character though, that's the hard part especially if it's your favorite game you have been playing for a long time and someone who's in the same boat as i am on this topic.

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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 11:20:34 PM

@Clamedeus Believe me when I tell you that when I 1st saw this new Dante 1st thing that came out of my mouth was WTF then the action part of trailer kicked in, which pretty much let you knew the gameplay will be somewhat the same they might keep the different styles system or not for the sake of this being set before he discovered who he was & what he is capable of I'm just speculating at this point. I must have watched this trailer like 50 times already. I actually like the old series there were just a lot of things missing for me, so I'm excited about this new game. I know that ppl often get too attached to the main characters & how important it is 2 actually like that character on some level. I guess For me it was just frustrating to see this game getting so much negativity from only a teaser trailer with no gameplay & no real details on the story I knew some ppl were gonna be displeased & kinda of pissed about Dante's new look, hell I was still scratching my head even after 20th time I watched it, but you had some ppl saying things like this game will suck or this game will fail, the game hasn't even come out yet not to mention the fact that it doesn't even have a release date. So I admit that I went into my almighty douche mode and attacked some ppl out of that frustration. I realized now that I made myself into to the biggest douche on the website. So I'll try to correct that from here on out.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 @ 7:52:09 AM

It's fine dude, i know where you are coming from as well. I'm glad we were able to resolve the issue we had with one another on this topic.

Just keep gaming and have fun, it was fun talking to you. I haven't had a serious conversation like this on a character in a long time Lol. Anyway see you later around on the site.

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Wissam
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:34:20 AM
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Even if they change him I wont care about this game. a reboot hahahaha. I am pretty sure it will run at 25 fps like a usual NT game.

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PorkChopGamer
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 5:25:21 PM

None of us should be hard on a game that hasn't been completed. It's like me hearing 5 seconds of a demo of an unfinished Belphegor album and saying 'This whole album is garbage'. Kudos to Ninja Theory for not bowing to you crybabies hunched over a computer passing down judgement. More people in the world need to have the stones to do that. They are creators. Let them do their friggin' jobs. If you really pining for a certain male aesthetic to get your enjoyment from a game, you are missing the point of gaming

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sonic1899
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 12:07:50 PM

This not like theyre ranting on a new IP, this is Devil May Cry series dealing with. This DINO is totally against the Dante we all know about and NT did not need to change him at all, even if the series needed a reboot.

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GuyverLT
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:51:25 AM
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@Wissam well apparently it wasn't as successful as you crybabies thought. I've said this be4 in my other comments if it really had so much success then like all other game developers all Capcom would have done is crank out more DMC games with a couple of new features & kept the same exact tired storyline which contradicts itself by the way, essential nickle & diming everyone like what they did with street fighter 4 & super street fighter 4 which they could get a way with cause they're fighting games(no real need 4 deep storylines) or here a better example like what Koei does with it's dynasty warrior series. Capcom themselves wanted the game 2 go in a different direction. This will more than likely lose the majority of the hardcore DMC fans, but 4 the ones of us (like myself) who are actually open to this new concecpt & the ones that couldn't get into DMC before they'll be the ones to pick this title up when it comes out. Might even have more fans than b4....I'm just sayin you never know.

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Wissam
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 12:02:46 PM

Maybe because capcom days of glory are over now.
I agree with you on this one though.

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johnld
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:18:45 PM

so you're insulting the people who invested in the devil may cry series, characters and story. you call them crybabies because they are sounding off on a big change concerning the series. there was a big following with devil my cry but capcom has been going down hills since then. As for now, they're just too much games in that genre of hack and slash like god of war, darksiders, ninja gaiden, and others. its kind of like the over saturation of FPS. its just kids today just prefer games that dont require thinking so a game like devil may cry and god of war becomes a button masher.

As for feeling "betrayed", the word seems appropiate, feel the same way about a series i invested so much time on, final fantasy. its no longer the type of game that i loved. sure its still a good game but its just no final fantasy. and after playing it since the ps1 days, i feel that this departure is a stab in the back for series loyals.

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Jawknee
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 3:01:26 PM

Guyver please don't comment on here if you can't do it without insulting people. This is only the 3rd post of yours Ive read and its just as obnoxious as the other two. If you cant conduct a civil converstaion then leave.

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Kain81
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:54:40 AM
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This was my Reaction to that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh246p8ejjc


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/263/b/9/dante_saw_dmc_trailer_by_reorain-d2z1jcu.png

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McClane
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:26:03 PM

Hilarious!! +1!

Damn! So many losses...so many fallen heroes...

My exact feelings...

PS. How did you do that???

EDIT: Right on! "Damn you...Damn you all to hell!"

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Shams
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 12:20:27 PM
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Although i've never played HS, knowing the prevalent praise for the game, it's obvious that the guys at NT are dedicated artists. Having played the Enslaved demo couple days ago cemented this fact for me. Apparently, I enjoyed it more than many of my peers whom i share nearly identical interests with. And it came down to level design, art-style, and cinematic appeal.

And I can see how their reimagining (or butchery depending on who you ask) was done deliberately for their own reasons (refreshing the franchise or cheaply drawing media attention depending on who you ask). But to me, even more significant than the change of Dante's hair color, is the change of the team. Every kind of studio brings their own artistic essence to the product. You change the team, you'll change the essence of the game, no matter how masterful the team is. And while it is true both DMC1 and DMC3 were done by teams with different leads (and some new and old team members), the game still had the Japanese charm to it (JRock, Japanime influence, Hyper-stylized combat, etc).

If for example the original DMC1 or DMC3 team had decided on hair color change, we would've been more curious as to the events of the story that explained this, than surprised or upset. But the combination of change of Dante's hair color, with the change of the studio from an Eastern one to a Western one naturally evokes a "WTF" from it's fans.

Apparently, Capcom will still be looking over this project. And they are far worse teams Capcom could've handed this game to. So I'll be curious and keep on eye out for it.

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Alienange
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 12:20:36 PM
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There's certainly room for "alternate universes" in both comic books and video games but when it happens in games, the fear is that we'll never see the "classic Dante" ever again.

Spiderman 2099 is still kicking around despite initial contempt for the comic. The reason? They didn't get rid of classic Spiderman. So now fans are so-so on the future guy and accept that he's around.

Here we have Capcom and NT pretty much telling us this is the new Dante and we shouldn't expect the old one back. That's the mistake they're making. Big time.

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sunspider13
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 7:14:11 PM

Good response. And I also feel like Capcom is making a mistake.

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 12:43:49 PM
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Their loss. I won't buy it, I'm fine with the others except DMC2. That one sucks! I don't really care for them since they have a bitter relationship with sony.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:03:39 PM
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Too many other games to care about to even bother with this atrocity.

They can go ahead and do it and I'll go ahead and pass on it. Without their fans DMC would be nothing.

Good for them though, they might round up a new fanbase (probably very small though)

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Slycly
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:21:38 PM
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This generation has been really lacking to me. I always been a big RPG fan though. They screwed Resident Evil with 5. They screwing DMC with new lame ass look. With just those 2 game series Capcom to me cares little for this old fan base. They turned resident evil into a crappy coop action game and now making Dante look pretty crappy imo. Like alot japanese developers this gen they have totally lost their identity.

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ryu
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:28:21 PM
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change is scary, especially the ones you come up w/ ninja theory

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McClane
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:37:23 PM
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The only thing cool and badass about new Dante is the voice and nothing else...

I'm sorry, I'm a crybaby as well and because of people like me, REAL FANS and because of PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO BOUGHT ALL DMC GAMES made this franchise successful...Yet NT pays no respect whatsoever to us, FANS....

It's not just the reboot thing (I thought that was exclusive to Hollywood crap), it's the bastardization of an iconic character, story, attitude among other things....

I'm not buying this "Twilight wannabe" vampire demon hunter NT reboot thing...

What I find amusing is that this new look seems to be intended for younger crowds (T) but the game will surely be rated M....

Amusing and ironic....

PS: Somebody please give this "DINO" a burger, he's so skinny....

"DINO" stands for

"Dante In Name Only"...

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BeezleDrop
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:44:40 PM
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Hey everyone, I have the best solution for this problem. And this same solution would have solved the inFamous 2 issue in minutes. Character Customization. So if you want to keep Dante in the new brit-punk Emo gig you can, or if you want to make him look like Bozo the Clown you should be able to. Crap, Brink is a FPS and has loads of CC options for the guy you choose to play as.

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godsman
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 1:51:54 PM
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Although I don't know the story of the original DMV. I think it'll be interesting to interesting to show a young version of Dante from the asylum and show how he became the person he is now. Gradually show how he got his white hair, oversized sword, and personality.

I doubt it'll happen though because they are trying to build a "new" series. I don't think they'll go back to original Dante in one game, but it's good to see it happen.

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johnld
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:04:07 PM

hahaha, dmv i hate that too.

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Fane1024
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:41:29 PM

I agree. Way too much standing in line in that game.

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johnld
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:09:27 PM
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i call bull on their excuse. i still believe that tameem just wanted to see how he'll look in a videogame. i mean chief creative creative director... he probably just told everyone to model the character like him or his mommy told him that he's cool so he decided to use his image because he assumed everyone thinks he's cool.

maybe i still hate him because of the stupid comments he said before like heavy rain was a failure because it only sold about a million units back then or when he said on qore that videogames are really lacking in story telling even though uncharted and uncharted 2 were released.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:30:43 PM
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Out of curiosity, why do people hate DMC2? I enjoyed it.

Also: I think this game relies too much on the fans to piss them off this much. I don't mind the change personally, the game looks good, but I think it will sell worse then DMC4 because they seem to have pissed everyone off and are now saying "We don't care"

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McClane
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:50:55 PM

I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it much either....

I was also thinking the same thing, trying an "I love to hate you" tactic in order to draw some attention...

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MadPowerBomber
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 1:09:43 AM

Eh, I see it as the people that play games are hitting several million players now, but those of us that play and voice our opinions are still in the minority. A lot of fans of the DMC series will see the new one and buy it without having an overall opinion of the new "look," some are going to buy it out of curiosity, some are gonna be all OMG NEW DMC!! and buy it, some are going to get all angsty and emo and refuse to buy it because the new look of dante is all... angsty and emo -- the irony, ha -- and then there's the new folks buying it.

I think the new DmC is going to do just fine, regardless of us who share our opinions. The real question is it going to do just fine in Capcom's terms or not.

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Fane1024
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 2:40:02 PM
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I'm surprised Ninja Theory didn't change him into a red-headed woman. That seems to be their go-to character model. ;)

Not that I'm complaining.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:48:56 PM

MMMMMM........red-headed women!!!!!!!!

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GuyverLT
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 3:11:13 PM
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@johnld you call it insulting, I say I call it like I see it. And it's because DMC series turned into a mindless over-the-top button masher that it needs this change & if fails then it fails they're probably give up on it the same way they did with the Onimusha series & I loved those games I thought they were super popular but apparently I was wrong, they're not even giving that series another run. As far as your comments about the God Of War series being a button masher goes it had alot more going 4 it than DMC series, 4 example it had a way better story, better combat & good puzzles though they weren't that hard in the 3rd one, DMC series on the other hand was on it's last leg with DMC4 you could kinda tell they had run outta of ideas.

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Jawknee
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 4:25:10 PM

You can have an opinion without calling people names. Now cut it out.

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Alienange
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:31:25 PM

Jawknee AKA Moderator

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Kr3sn1k
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 4:32:50 PM
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I think he looks fine he looks as i would almost imagine dante to look in his youth only problem i have is his face..... it looks like hes a crack addict

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 5:33:23 PM
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Okay, this is where I come out-

I'm probably as big a fan of DMC as any of you; in fact, I distinctly recall defending that series against a lot of haters on this site. And I have certainly questioned Dante's new look-

http://www.psxextreme.com/feature/631.html

I really think the old Dante is better, that's all. It's not about an attachment to him as a character, so much as it is a preference. When I think of a cocky bad-ass, I sort of picture the old Dante. The new Dante is just as much of a bad-ass - anybody who puts an enemy in a headlock and puts a cigarette out on its head qualifies - but he doesn't LOOK like one to me. They say he's "rougher" and "harder-edged" but he looks more like a heroin addict to me.

Still, I have total faith in Ninja Theory to deliver an awesome game, and I'm pretty sure I'll play it and love it (or at least like it). I just can't imagine not playing a great game because the character didn't quite do it for me...unless this industry changed when I wasn't looking, it's still all about gameplay, yes?

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Scarecrow
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:38:38 PM

No, character appeal is a big factor.

I'm not a mindless robot who would play DMC solely because of gameplay.

Character quality is big for me.
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You also have to remember that gamers have a choice to not buy a game. Specially if there are many other games to buy (and backlog of games one has missed).

I don't reward bad quality. And judging by the issues the ps3 version of Enslaved has I don't expect Ninja Theory to make a good DmC.

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McClane
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 7:09:43 PM

"They say he's "rougher" and "harder-edged" but he looks more like a heroin addict to me"

I'm with you, I can't associate these concepts with the new look...

"No, character appeal is a big factor.I'm not a mindless robot who would play DMC solely because of gameplay.Character quality is big for me."

Same here...

I suppose Crapcom thinks that turning Dante into this twilight emo loser crap means more "western" appeal ...Good job, guys

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 7:26:34 PM

I'm not about to swear off a game based on the character alone, no. Besides, there's no knowing anything about that character until you play; if the LOOK of a character stops me from playing, I may as well give up right now.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 8:11:53 PM

If they made Kirby look like a piece of crap I would not buy the game.

That's the same situation we're facing here.

There are too many other games I could spend my money on than on a messed up reboot.

I spend my money wisely.
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I also pointed out the fact the Ninja Theory seems to have lost any talent they had. The ps3 version of the game is unfinished and glitchy. So I'm not expecting a great DmC.

I'd rather give Ninja Gaiden another chance now.

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McClane
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 8:44:15 PM

@Ben:

"I'm not about to swear off a game based on the character alone, no."

It would be extremely dumb to do something like that, you got a point, HOWEVER....

My main gripe with this new look is that I CANNOT see this new Dante as an action hero....

For example, Solid Snake is so iconic and representative of an action character because he looks like a soldier...

Hideo Kojima was obviously influenced by Snake Plissken and Rambo...something he wanted us to relate to within the context of the tactical espionage action videogame he intended....

This is all what it is about, something we can associate with....depending on the context developers may need to create an average guy on extraordinary circumstances (in a horror or adventure game like Dead Space or Uncharted) or the badass that can kill someone by just looking at him (the now defunct old Dante or Solid Snake)....

To me, DINO looks NOTHING AT ALL that he can be a devil hunter....

Yes, yes, I have seen next to nothing about this new game but from the trailer, it doesn't look good...

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:12:58 PM

Sorry, but all that sounds like whining to me. I don't like the new look, either, but the knee-jerk hate reaction isn't warranted.

Also, the PS3 version of Enslaved isn't broken or glitchy. No idea where you're getting your information from, but I wouldn't trust it if I were you.

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MadPowerBomber
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 2:04:28 AM

To avoid posting another ginormous piece: Dante doesn't, nor has he ever, looked like a badass that could kill you with but a look. Nor does he look like a devil hunter. He looks like an aging Steven Tyler from Aerosmith with a good plastic surgeon.

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Snaaaake
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:06:47 PM
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The only thing that's gonna be recognizable is the gameplay and I have faith NT will deliver.

Though the new look is a complete different person, nothing on him reminds you of the old Dante.
I don't see this selling 4-6 million or the number Capcom is expecting.
Do they really think changing the look will bring in more sale? And I mean like increasing it significantly?

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hellish_devil
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:15:58 PM

Oh believe me. The look makes a lot. Just look at Twilight. LOL

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Snaaaake
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 7:14:20 PM

Well I'm not a huge fan of Twilight but who does he look like?
Edward?

I do find "Dante" look emo, like Ben said, a herion addict.

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iGraves1
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:07:45 PM
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Turning old Dante into this is like changing Super Mario from a fat itailian plumber into a skinny French cable guy. Sure they might make the graphics better, and the gameplay might improve but it won't have the same appeal that fans have come to know and love!

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hellish_devil
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:14:39 PM
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Well, i haven't really been a long-time fan of DMC, but Capcom did a good job to pass this series to a GOOD developer, Nija Theory. In fact, why the hate on Ninja Theory? Capcom themselves said THEY wanted the new look on Dante.

I'm sure Ninja Theory will give us a really good game, and they said they know what made the franchise so great gameplay-wise, so besides from the new Dante, this game should be great, it is in good hands.

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Alienange
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:31:03 PM
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Let's face it, the skunk hair has to go.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 6:40:27 PM

That, or they should be ok with many DMC fans quitting the franchise altogether.

We can reboot and get into Ninja Gaiden, Yakuza, and many other action/adventures.

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McClane
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 7:16:18 PM

@Scarecrow

Very true, we have many other games to buy...

Sorry, Crapcom, after the mayor screw-up you call RE5 you're not getting any more money from me...

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GuyverLT
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:18:49 PM
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@Jawknee Where do you get off telling me 2 cut it out like you're someone's parent. I'mma say it one more time, everybody is acting like crybabies about Dante's new look, & if you don't like it then that's your problem don't reply any of my comments & keep it moving buddy, & that goes 4 the rest of you.

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Snaaaake
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:36:21 PM

How would you feel if one of your favorite character gets a complete makeover?

Metrod fan will be pissed if Nintendo change Samus' armour to look more like Master Chief.

And you WILL get some reply if you call the long-time DMC fans crybaby for crying over something they embraced and loved for a long time.

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PorkChopGamer
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:55:16 PM

@ Snaaaake Crying about the look of a game without knowing it's full story or gameplay makes you a crybaby.I love the Metal Gear series and I love the character Solid Snake, but I had NO problem with playing as Raiden for the majority of MGS2. I welcomed the change and enjoyed the story and gameplay from his point of view. But the crybabies here are why Kojima kept it secret. Because they are close-minded, petty, hate change Look at how GG bowed to the masses and changed the exquisite controls of KZ2. Heck, you guys are the same people who knock CoD for not changing. Now you're crying. It's sad really.

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Jawknee
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 10:40:51 PM

I'm asking you to be civil. Not childish.

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aaronisbla
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 12:41:35 AM

it would be nice if you stopped crying over people voicing their initial feelings about a major change to the series.

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GuyverLT
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 12:45:46 AM

I'm going to say what's on my mind regardless. I am being civil.... While calling it like I see. If I held back with any of my comments I just wouldn't be myself. Never held back b4 not gonna start now.

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GuyverLT
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 12:52:51 AM

Hey! I'm not the one crying homie, ppl just need to be a little bit more open-minded about any new game or concept regardless to whether it's Series they love to play or whatever the case. Oh! & yeah while they maybe voicing they're opinion they're being big babies about it.

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aaronisbla
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 6:42:58 PM

i see both yours and theirs, and it looks like crying from both parties if you put it that way.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 6:42:13 AM

You are posting in a public comments section, you cant tell people to reply to you or not. So you keep it moving.

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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 5:20:45 PM

@Clamedeus & you can't tell developers what to do with their own product. So keep it moving.

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Clamedeus
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 5:37:46 PM

I never said what they have to do or how to do it, i was voicing my opinion, if they don't change it, it won't matter because i wont pay any attention to it for that matter.

And that's blatantly obvious you cant control the product they make.





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Jamaican_Heat
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:27:23 PM
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Mabye Dante decided to dye his hair and get a new cut haha its realistic at least they didnt jack him up like Chris Redfield

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Snaaaake
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:38:09 PM

I never thought about this before but was Chris' beefed up appearance a way to appeal to the west?

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GuyverLT
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 9:56:50 PM
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@Snaaaake you wanna know how I would handle a situation were my favorite videogame character was completely changed. Ok here's a list!

1. It wouldn't matter 2 me to begin with, I'd Get over, & even if it did I'd stay open to the new concept.
2. It's a videogame much more important things in the world to worry about.
3. It's not like there would be anything I could do about it cause I don't make videogames or work 4 any company that do make them. No point in getting mad & all bent outta shape over someone else's creation. If ppl don't like were the new direction of there favored character & game is going in then move on to something else no sense in whining about something that's outta your hands.


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Snaaaake
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 10:12:00 PM

I'm not gonna argue, I'll just keep my opinion to myself.

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GuyverLT
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 10:24:26 PM
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@Snaaaake Thanks

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Snaaaake
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 10:27:11 PM

You CAN click the reply button you know......

And you don't have to call others crybabies, I love DMC and I love Dante, but I'm not a hardcore fan of DMC so I got over the change rather quickly.
They are fans after all and this is what they love.
And while I'm not gonna argue, can't say the same to some.

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GuyverLT
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 10:54:42 PM
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@Snaaaake I know I can hit reply button but not everyone has one the majority you guys just have little caution signs under you day, month & time where the reply button should be. I here what you saying but the majority of ppl on ARE hardcore DMC fans the ones that make comments like oh I'm not buying this game cause Dante has always had white hair & now he doesn't or this game will fail because he looks like a twilight emo(whatever the hell that is)those are the guy i'm calling crybabies, because that's what they are. It's like I was watching a different trailer than everyone else cause from what I saw the core gameplay & bad-ass attitude of the character is still intact, Dante just looks different. You don't past judgement on a game that's possibly 2-3 years off, the game doesn't even have a release date yet & I'm not trying 2 argue I'm just trying to get my point across.

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Alienange
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:19:06 PM

Dude, the reply button is only on the initial comment.

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GuyverLT
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 12:40:07 AM

OOOOOOhhhhh! I'm new to this site if you haven't notice. Other sites are different MY BAD.

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sonic1899
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 12:10:43 PM

When I was new to this site, I never had a problem with replies. Perhaps if you took the time to figure out how the site works instead of aimlessly attacking everyone, you wouldn't have that problem either. In that regard...thanks for butchering up the page :\

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GuyverLT
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 2:58:00 PM

One thing you gonna find out about me is I don't give 2 flying F*@ks about how you or anybody else thinks about how I respond to other ppl posts you D!cks keep whining about me attacking ppl I haven't attack anyone no more than you guys are attacking the developers about they're game. With that being said, I can careless about about how you didn't have a problem with site cause me & you are two completely different ppl.

Oh I almost forgot! No problem I love butchering up pages:)LMAO

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aaronisbla
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 6:37:54 PM

lol, i love how this guy takes sh!t so serious here, chill bro, if you didn't give two sh!ts about what people think of your posts, why the need to defend them so vigorously? We get it, no need to defend it

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GuyverLT
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 7:04:25 PM

@aaronisbla Oh! don't worry man you don't have 2 tell me to chill out I'm calm, I'm calm......Well now at least.

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YashaZz
Saturday, September 25, 2010 @ 11:01:32 PM
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I read most of the comments, reply's and opinion you guys wrote, and I want to say my too:

Have you ever thought how Dante looked like, before he became a REAL demon-hunter? Maybe he didn't even knew of him being the son of Sparda (tell me if I'm wrong? I've only played DMC 3 and 4). What was his 1st big enemy he had to face, that made him understand he has to protect the world from the demonic dangers? How about his brother, Vergil? There is a chance of him showing up in the upcoming reboot (although the word "reboot" tells me otherwise). Maybe they were close friends before Vergil was overwhelmed with willings of reaching unbelievable power?

Think about it. All might not be lost.
I'm still waiting to see what Ninja Theory are going to pull off, and I'm hoping for the best.

(sorry for my English)

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MadPowerBomber
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 2:06:24 AM

From what I've read from the dev team at other sites, it's going to be handling the 'how he got white hair' and whatnot. Ninja Theory are fans of the original series and didn't want to deviate from the look of the character, Capcom told them to change it.

Great games come from passionate creators. If Ninja Theory is passionate about Devil May Cry as fans, then they'll deliver a good game.

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Clamedeus
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 5:12:43 AM

Dante's father was the one who was stopping demon's from killing humans, His mother is Human and his Father was a Demon.

(If i remember correctly haven't played in awhile)

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___________
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 2:17:30 AM
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i just can not understand this industries obsession with pretty boys!
honestly, this dante looks like he would be too busy worried about demons messing up his hair to blast them to kingdom come!
im a demon slayer, so its my job to kill you, but i wont because i spent 4 hours this morning in the mirror doing my hair and i dont want to mess it up.
thats the message NT are sending out with dante, as the saying goes looks and impressions is everything!
this guy does not look bad a$$, hes not the person you would see in the back of a back alley and turn and pis bolt.
his certainly not intimidating, and thats what dante is suppose to be!
soon, they will be putting freaking kratos in a freaking too too!
might as well have him prancing around in a ballerina dress while your at it NT!

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MadPowerBomber
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 2:50:49 AM

So... did the last version of Dante. He's very close to being Bishonen, highly feminized male protagonists in Japan. Think Metrosexual.

Lots of characters from Japan are this way. Off the top of my head there's Jin and Leo (who is almost the definition of Bishonen, to the point where people question her/his gender) from Tekken; Vampire Hunter D; Vega from Street Fighter II... it goes on and on.

Pretty boys are prominent in Japan, and seeing as how the original Dante was designed to be one, this version is keeping with the original design in that aspect. He just doesn't have white hair.

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___________
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 7:54:51 AM

the original dante does not look like a pretty boy, he never really looked like a bad a$$ but he certainly did not look like a pussy!
sadly i cant say that about the new dante.

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MadPowerBomber
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 2:38:38 AM
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I just watched the trailer again and I'm sold so far. I only played the original Devil May Cry and I sucked at it, so I gave up on the series. I've always looked at it with a fond interest, but bitter memories of not being able to get passed the first boss kept me away from it.

This is a new beginning for people like me -- like those exist! -- and people who haven't played the previous games, which may be Capcom's intent with the project.

The character design ISN'T that bad. When I first saw the trailer, yeah, it was pretty horrid, but it's not nearly as EMO-ish as it's being branded as, and the character does look like a much younger version of Dante. Thinking maybe fifteen or sixteen years old. Besides, it fits into the material a bit better with this new "edgier" approach. Dante has always looked pretty clean-cut; but clean-cut kids, white hair or not, don't really get all that involved in the occult side of the world. Emo kids, goth kids, those types of people do, however. So, it makes sense.

As for comparing him to Twilight? Ha. None of the kids in Twilight, or any of the actors involved, look anything like this version of Dante. They're all pretty clean-cut themselves. And, I think this kid could hand all those prissy vampires and big dogs their collective asses.

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Masry_XI
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 6:19:52 AM
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I have no idea , Dante was a great success , i have no idea why you want to change him,
If you Think that this DMC will sell more than the previous ones , just cause you gave Dante that horrible look ,
Then you are Wrong ,
I anticipated DMC 5 ever since i finished DMC 4 , but this , this is like a slap in the face ,
RIP DMC !!

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Caanimal
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 5:42:48 PM
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I wonder what would happen if Nintendo "reimagined" Mario or Zelda, or Samus... The majority of gamers would have a hissy fit and probably refuse to buy the game, just like DMC fans are doing right now.

I'm not usually one to get hung up on how something looks, either graphics wise or actual look, but for them to change the icon of a series just because they felt they needed a change. As for letting the "creators do their thing", their "thing" is to cator to their target audiance, and I'm pretty sure DMC's audiance has spoken pretty damn clearly and NT has done nothing but given them the finger and totally disrespected the wishes of those long time fans, and they will see that in a niche game like DMC they don't have the brand name like SE has with Final Fantasy...

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Mr Bitey
Sunday, September 26, 2010 @ 5:54:19 PM
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"Less over-the-top fashionista and more hard-edged."

Really?! Than why did they decide to go with mascara, tight pants, and no shirt?

This "DMC" is an abomination.

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EightThirty
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 6:42:38 AM
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I was shocked at first... but now that I know it's based on a younger "Dante", it is sort of interesting.

Maybe we'll see where or how he get's his "SILVER HAIR", "REBELLION", "EBONY & IVORY"... By the looks of the trailer, seems like he's just getting in touch with who he is... I'm actually looking forward to it...

I really hope they don't stuff it up!!

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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 8:19:59 PM

Ninja Theory had one the best games out when the PS3 1st came out, Heaven Sword was a really good game. Action/adventure games are they're strong suit, they should give us a pretty good game. Who knows it might even be better than the originally series.

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EightThirty
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 6:42:53 AM
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I was shocked at first... but now that I know it's based on a younger "Dante", it is sort of interesting.

Maybe we'll see where or how he get's his "SILVER HAIR", "REBELLION", "EBONY & IVORY"... By the looks of the trailer, seems like he's just getting in touch with who he is... I'm actually looking forward to it...

I really hope they don't stuff it up!!

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duzahn
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 10:21:27 AM
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I just don't get it. I watched the trailer and it looked pretty good, but i couldn't stop looking at his damn hair. it looked like he had a bowl haircut. . . . . why do they they do this? I didn't care that they went back to the beginning, just leave the man's hair alone. look at those that haven't changed their "doos", elvis, mr. t, james brown, donald trump, don king. on the flip-side, the action in the trailer was good and i think an origin story for Dante would be very interesting. I'm also curious about how they're going to include Virgil in this story.

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DjEezzy
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 4:38:50 PM
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And again... Another thread about the new dante. I've never seen so much whining over a character. Ever!!! It really does amaze me. I don't understand how people can say they don't want to buy a game just because of a 2 or 3 minute video of the overhauled character, that didn't even show any gameplay. LOL. It's pretty ridiculous actually. Well, like DJWheat said... "Get over it!!!" It's just so fanboyish. LOL

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GuyverLT
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 5:16:08 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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duzahn
Monday, September 27, 2010 @ 7:51:11 PM
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Never said i wasn't going to buy it. it was just a comment. and besides people buy lots of games because of the story and the characters. there are not too many gamers i know that agree with character changes in big franchises. oh, and again. . . . .it's just a comment.

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Sabastion Half
Saturday, October 23, 2010 @ 8:53:07 AM
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If there intent was to make Dante look like a crack addict they did a great job. Give me a break.

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