PSXE Poll Update: Removing Taliban From MoH Cowardly
See Full ImageAlthough it was close, the majority of our readers believes EA's removal of the Taliban reference in the multiplayer action in Medal of Honor was just plain cowardly.
As most of you know, EA buckled under the pressure - applied by various members of the U.S. Military and offended families of U.S. soldiers - and decided to take "Taliban" out and replace it with "opposing force." But according to our latest poll, most of you guys think EA should've stuck to their guns and released the game as was, which may not have been a solid business plan. Actually, and perhaps surprisingly, the second-highest vote tally went to the indifferent crowd, who really don't care one way another. We interpret this in the following way: unlike the anti-gaming hounds out there, we realize that just because we play as the Taliban in a video game, we're not necessarily besmirching any memories...as it ain't real. There are two sides in multiplayer matches and...well, someone needs to play as the bad guys. Nobody freaked out when we played as Nazis in other shooters, right? Or cowboys and indians when we were kids?
This week, we leave the politics and controversy behind and refocus on gaming. We're interested to know what you'd rather have from Rockstar: Grand Theft Auto V or another Red Dead? We're almost certain to get both, but which excites you more? We keep thinking the recent popularity of RDR might have had a pretty big impact...
Related Game(s): Medal of Honor
Tags: medal of honor, taliban, ea, gta, grand theft auto v, rdr, red dead redemption
10/10/2010 10:54:28 PM Ben Dutka
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Comments (69 posts)
CharlesD
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 1:02:53 AM
2 up, 1 down
maxpontiac
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 9:56:02 AM
Out of everyone who will vote, how many people have family members in the military or how many of you have served in the armed forces.
I would be very curious to see the results.
5 up, 0 down
Underdog15
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 1:22:07 PM
Of course, we aren't American either. 1 of my army friends, just this past weekend in fact, said "I don't give a f*&k what they call them. It's a f*&kin' game."
P.s. He's in therapy right now for post-traumatic syndrome from what he's seen overseas.
But not that that matters, right? "It's disrespectful!" So tell me, how soon is too soon? I mean, Black Ops is Vietnam... lots of games have been WWII... I don't care what anyone says. Both of those wars were worse than what is happening now. (I do not mean to detract from what's going on now. All war is bad, for sure.) But just because it's more "modern" or "current", we're not allowed to be the bad guys? But if it isn't something that happened to this generation, it's ok??? Yeah... whatever.
7 up, 0 down
Beamboom
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:27:20 PM
AND you got a rocket backpack ffs! What is there NOT to love about SA...!
1 up, 1 down
NoSmokingBandit
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 3:39:20 PM
Theres no mission in SA that comes close to the epic feeling of taking the mansion in VC. Half of the new stuff in SA was just the dress-up mode. If i wanted to play dolls i wouldnt have bought GTA, just give me the option of a suit, fatigues, or civilian clothes. I dont need or want to sift through 80 different boots.
SA was good, and i enjoyed it, but VC did everything better.
2 up, 0 down
Beamboom
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 6:28:15 PM
But the "boring" side missions (I guess you are referring to the girlfriends?) are just that, side missions. No need to do them. I on the other hand found them to be quite cool, they added to the rpg'ish feeling of SA, something I thought was a definitive step in the right direction. I expected more of that in GTA IV. The horrible interface to change clothes on the other hand, there was a definitive room for improvement there. They could (and should!) have done so in gta iv. But nah.
In my opinion gta:sa added a lot to the formula without removing anything essential (as opposed to gtaiv). We got planes! Casinos! Car modding! Even body modding! Plus the huuuge map with tons of stuff to do made it de definitive king-of-the-gta-hill so far.
0 up, 0 down
Nickjcal
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 6:55:48 PM
1 up, 0 down
Jawknee
Sunday, October 10, 2010 @ 11:30:42 PM
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Political Correctness= Fail.
In regards to the new poll, i'd rather see another Red Dead because i never liked GTA. The game is classless and is a waste of time and money in my opinion.
Last edited by Jawknee on 10/10/2010 11:30:52 PM
11 up, 6 down
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, October 10, 2010 @ 11:34:10 PM
9 up, 6 down
Jawknee
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 11:56:39 AM
4 up, 2 down
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, October 10, 2010 @ 11:37:05 PM
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As far as R* is concerned, I dug GTAIV, am still playing RDR, but honestly, I'm fairly tired of the mechanic so I voted not interested. I wan't LA Noire and I wanna hear about Agent, but GTA is old news and while I like westerns, there is a WHOLE lot of nothing out there in the wilderness. I liked the way Red Dead Revolver did it better.
1 up, 2 down
main_event05
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:51:57 AM
0 up, 0 down
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:09:12 PM
0 up, 0 down
Alienange
Sunday, October 10, 2010 @ 11:47:40 PM
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4 up, 3 down
bigrailer19
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:03:04 AM
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I can't way for this game! Gonna be very good to finally play a new moh! Been waiting awhile!
3 up, 0 down
FM23
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:06:58 AM
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3 up, 0 down
Mornelithe
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:08:04 AM
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I respect them for making the alteration, based upon response from families of victims of the war, sure the game is for gamers, but it does touch on pretty sensitive issues that we should acknowledge, even if they aren't sensitive to you or me. At least they tried.
As for the new poll, I've got GTAIV + Expansions on my PC, love them. I've got RDR for PS3, currently conquering it, love it. I would be lying if I said I don't want both, and I'm not lying when I say I want them both on PC. ;)
6 up, 0 down
maxpontiac
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 10:06:28 AM
0 up, 0 down
booze925
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:22:41 AM
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i have respect for our men and women currently fighting in afghanistan. they have the courage to attempt to do what other countries could not.
as 4 a new GTA or RDR... i personally want a new red dead game.
1 up, 1 down
Jawknee
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:26:39 AM
8 up, 0 down
BikerSaint
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:36:40 AM
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jack thompson is nothing more than a low-life scumbag disbarred lawyer & publicity whore, without 1 ounce of credibility.
I spit on his name!
6 up, 1 down
BikerSaint
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:09:54 AM
I figured you were joking, but if that a$$wipe ever were to own a PS3, I can just about guarantee that he only bought so he could sweat to the oldies by crotch-watching Richard Simmons on HiDef Bluray.
Ha, if he really was a gamer, then this whole publicity whore grandstanding against MOH, would not have happened, disbarring any tirade against freedom.
BTW, I voted for both R* titles, but just bring on GTA 5 first, seeing how RRD is still fairly new & Grand Theft is already last years model.
Last edited by BikerSaint on 10/11/2010 2:29:57 AM
1 up, 0 down
Jawknee
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 3:15:16 AM
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/07/10/jack-thompson-owns-a-ps3/
1 up, 1 down
Underdog15
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:53:27 AM
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For me, however, neither one holds any appeal. I was one of the "neither" votes. Mere personal preference, mind you. Nothing against the games. Just not my schtick.
0 up, 0 down
BikerSaint
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 7:08:04 PM
He was playing Barbie's Riding Academy, right up until his 11:35 appointed Yellow Journalism news crew arrived.
I hear he's looking to play Finding Nemo next, but only if he can get it's rating down another 10 notches.
1 up, 0 down
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:56:03 AM
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7 up, 1 down
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:07:51 PM
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1 up, 1 down
___________
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 1:40:30 AM
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at the end of the day you have to remember EA are in this for one reason, and only one reason.
to bring in as much $ as possible, there not going to handicap themselves deliberately.
as for RDR2 or GTAV, well that depends.
if GTAV would be another "sim" a repeat of GTAIV than i NEVER want to see another GTA game ever again!
if it was going to take the series back to what made it so popular, aka mindless fun than id much rather GTAV over RDR2.
but either way, id much rather R* get off their fat a$$e$ stop announcing games and show us some new stuff on either agent, LA Noire or max payne 3.
i thought you were suppose to announce a game, show info on it,release it, than announce a new game.
not announce a game, show nothing on said game, announce another game, show nothing on said game, than announce another game, show nothing on said game, than maybe show some info on original game.
all in the process of releasing NEITHER of them!
god, who do they think they are, $E?
2 up, 5 down
Jawknee
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 1:52:34 AM
6 up, 4 down
___________
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 8:24:47 AM
sure, there still upholding the ban, but how was EA suppose to know that without taking the leap?
does it really matter though?
1 up, 2 down
Jawknee
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 12:07:17 PM
2 up, 0 down
Underdog15
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 @ 8:55:32 AM
0 up, 0 down
soulproX
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 1:45:52 AM
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3 up, 5 down
Lawless SXE
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:00:26 AM
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Peace.
1 up, 0 down
SmokeyPSD
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:09:28 AM
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0 up, 0 down
TEG3SH
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 3:43:13 AM
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I want some infos on either LA.Noir or the Agent asap R*
2 up, 0 down
A2K78
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 3:48:09 AM
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Any for those complaining about EA removing the taliban, alot of you seem to forget that EA is running a business and being so they aren't going to include material they know will haper their game sales.
Anyhow personally I don't care about games such as MOH(or the controversey surrounding it) because in the end games such and MOH(and COD) do nothing but glorify the american warfare state and militarism. In the end the end I sometimes wish people who play these games would stop think about the amount people killed by the american war machine.
Now before somebody begin to question my socio-political stance, take not, I'm neither democrat or republican, this when you consider both are the two-headed war parties.
Last edited by A2K78 on 10/11/2010 3:48:54 AM
0 up, 3 down
Jawknee
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 11:57:39 AM
And of course it's PC. they are hiding the truth of who our enemy is so not to offend. That's PC. And I don't care what party you belong to or don't belong too. You believe nonsense like the "Taliban and Al Qaeda were created by the CIA". If you actually new or cared about REAL history you would know thats a bunch of hog wash made up my American hating leftists like Noam Chomsky. So your opinion on the subject matters little to me since it's obvious you know so little.
Last edited by Jawknee on 10/11/2010 12:05:15 PM
1 up, 2 down
Snaaaake
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 4:09:49 AM
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A massive boycott of the game might take place if they don't remove it.
1 up, 1 down
DeadReaper
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 4:59:51 AM
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0 up, 0 down
wolfsinner
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 6:50:04 AM
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And regarding the new poll, I'm tired of GTA games. Unless the setting changed drastically, I don't think I'd even buy a new GTA.
RDR2 all the way.
Last edited by wolfsinner on 10/11/2010 6:50:31 AM
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JPBooch
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 9:11:45 AM
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0 up, 0 down
Snaaaake
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 9:27:27 AM
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And he also told us GAMERS to go to hell.
1 up, 0 down
KNG201
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 1:55:05 PM
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another RED DEAD please!
0 up, 1 down
McClane
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 1:57:26 PM
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Don't you think it's a little biased to say:
"GTAV; it's a guaranteed masterpiece."
Judging from GTAIV, I highly doubt it...
My opinion...
2 up, 1 down
Beamboom
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:32:23 PM
Actually I think they prove that they've done so with rdr. So I welcome a new gta with open arms, however *not* a day1 buy.
Last edited by Beamboom on 10/11/2010 2:33:42 PM
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JPBooch
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:53:44 PM
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I thought RDR was a better game to be honest. Even with that said, I will probably get both on release day and they both appeal to me equally.
Last edited by JPBooch on 10/11/2010 2:54:19 PM
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McClane
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 4:27:22 PM
BUT MGS4 was released somewhere near the same time frame and we truly got to see what the PS3 was capable of...
And on a personal note, I think it was overrated, San Andreas, Vice City and III had better stories, better character development and better sidekicks...
Have you ever tried the multiplayer trophy hunt for GTAIV?? It's not fun, feels like a chore...
Last edited by McClane on 10/11/2010 4:34:51 PM
0 up, 0 down
AcHiLLiA
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 2:56:17 PM
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3 up, 0 down
Kokushi
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 3:13:33 PM
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1 up, 0 down
sirbob6
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 3:29:41 PM
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0 up, 1 down
Maiq The Liar
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 4:50:42 PM
0 up, 1 down
KNG201
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 6:09:00 PM
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2 up, 1 down
BikerSaint
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 8:35:59 PM
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In this feature film, a salesman (who happens to be a biker) wants to sell his goods to the various citizens of Liberty City to feed his striving family.
However, when a mafia boss refuses his offer of his goods, the boss ends up sleeping with the fishes, brought down by the salesman's hand.
As the salesman goes about his business, including a random encounter with his clone(s), the mafia hires a hitman to take him out.
During this ferocious chain of events, a fellow Liberty City police officer gets involved with the mess, adding insult to injury.
"GTA IV: The Salesman Ultimatum"
http://www.gameculture.com/2010/10/11/gta-iv-salesman-ultimatum
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StangMan80
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 10:47:10 PM
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The Next RD is a preorder on the day it's announced. GTA are fun games but I much rather have another RD.
GT5 countdown: 21 days
2 up, 1 down
StangMan80
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 10:47:57 PM
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1 up, 1 down
Mornelithe
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 @ 11:19:46 AM
1 up, 0 down
Robochic
Monday, October 11, 2010 @ 11:15:25 PM
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I would love another gta and rdr :)
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Skatejimmy5
Tuesday, October 12, 2010 @ 12:04:42 PM
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:)
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elass0wyp0
Thursday, October 14, 2010 @ 5:28:19 PM
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We are the masses. Rinse, repeat.
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NoSmokingBandit
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Sunday, October 10, 2010 @ 11:17:05 PM
In regards to the new poll....
I'd be off the wall ecstatic for GTAV if it is a sequel to Vice City, but not if its another modern GTA. Vice City was by far the best GTA ever made and i'd by another 80s GTA in an instant.