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How Much Longer Before PS3/360 Sales Gap Closes?

The PlayStation 3 launched nearly one year after the Xbox 360, and Sony suffered from constant criticism concerning the console's price ($600 to start), the lagging Network, and a lack of must-have software.

Four years later, the worldwide sales gap between the PS3 and 360 has almost closed. According to the most recent sales data for the second fiscal quarter, and updated figures found at NeoGAF and summarized at Examiner.com, the PS3 has enjoyed a great 2010, outstripping the 360 by a current tally of 8.1 million compared to 5.8 million. The 360 certainly still has the lead in North America but in terms of worldwide numbers, the difference is almost negligible:

Worldwide Sales:

Xbox 360: 44.5 million

Sony PS3: 41.6 million

This generation, the PSN has taken gigantic strides, Blu-Ray has become the high-definition standard, the reliability of the PS3 has proven to be vastly superior to the 360 (although we have to admit, nothing holds a candle to the indestructible Wii), the price has fallen to the $300 "sweet spot," and oh yes, the games...with must-play, measuring-stick exclusives such as Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, God of War III, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Demon's Souls, and Gran Turismo 5 (whenever it may arrive), it's tough to argue against the PS3's value.

The PlayStation Move might also prove to be a hardware mover, although the impact of Sony's motion sensing technology has yet to be fully felt (despite the approximately 2 million Move units sold worldwide thus far). The last note: we just keep wondering how many of the 360 sales are second, third, and fourth purchases from the same consumer who had another system go kaput. Just a thought.

Tags: ps3, playstation 3, ps3 sales, console sales

10/29/2010 8:56:42 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (120 posts)

Snaaaake
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:38:41 PM
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Wait, 44.5 and 41.6.
I'll put my spec on, let's see here, 44.5 and 41.6.
Uh huh, nothing's wrong with me.
That's a 2.9million gap with GT5 still yet to be released.

Perhaps Kinect will stop the gap from closing by...........a bit.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:49:39 PM
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1, maybe 2, possibly 3.

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rockervi
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:49:50 PM
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I still dont get why people(360 owners) prefer to pay for their online play rather than just having it free.
Its a no-brainer.

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Snaaaake
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:53:55 PM

PSN sucks man!!!
Live have cross game chat!!!!!

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frylock25
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:59:32 PM

you forgot your sacasim tag snaaake. at least i hope so

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Lawless SXE
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:59:58 PM

It makes them feel as if it's better. You know, the 'you get what you pay for' mentality. You don't pay for PSN, so obviously Live has to be better, duh. I fear for the future of humanity.
Peace.

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rockervi
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:02:41 PM

well i gotta say that is a flaw,but its not a major one,is it?

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frylock25
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:24:17 PM

its not a flaw man games like mag would be totally destroyed by cross game chat

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Snaaaake
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:27:17 PM

I don't look sarcastic enough?

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Snaaaake
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:45:19 AM

Some thumbs down there eh?
Maybe I should have put my sarcasm tag.

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Deleted User
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 6:34:44 AM

lol. i pitty the 360 owners that pay live i may have a 360 but i refuse to pay for live. i'm happy with doing all my online gaming on my Ps3. FREE ONLINE GAMING FTW !!

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Zorigo
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 8:08:09 AM

lawless you think humanitys fuck'd because of paying for online games?
HA!
we're screwed completely...

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Neo_Aeon666
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 9:55:18 AM

@ Zorigo

lol I think you missed the point.

He said Humanity is F*ed Up because people automatically think paying for a service makes it automatically better when in theory they should be looking at the features before judging and not just some price tag.

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bOnEs
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 10:17:33 AM

i am paying for my online experience on the playstation... i upgraded to PSN+... and i have gotten more than my moneys worth out of it... every game they have offered for free, i didn't previously own, and i've been a part of a few betas now...

i will gladly pay $50 for PSN+ every year... because, at least i am getting some cool stuff from the store... i don't think xbox has a reward policy for those who payed for their service, lol...

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 4:21:04 PM

Zorigo,
Not just that, but a lot of other, more important factors. More relating to people than sheep.
Peace.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 5:08:33 PM

bones, you're not paying for an online service, you're paying for bonus's, just bells and whistles, the service itself is still free whether you were ps+ or not

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bOnEs
Sunday, October 31, 2010 @ 1:51:42 PM

well, duh... i know it's free, lol... i am just saying that paying for the service has some nice benefits...

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Orvisman
Monday, November 01, 2010 @ 8:07:28 AM

One thing I've learned here Snaaaake is that you can always go back and change your thumbs down to a thumbs up and vice versa.


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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, November 01, 2010 @ 11:08:15 AM

I prefer to play over XBL than PSN because most (about 95% of them that play online) of my friends are on XBL.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:56:09 PM
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Well, if the sales speed doesn't change, by this time next year the PS3 will be in the lead. Finally. This should have been the case a year ago.

I just wish that people would wake up and see that the 360 has almost nothing left in the tank. I mean, if Kinect doesn't become it's saving grace, we will undoubtedly see the next one in 2012, while the PS3 should have more than enough to carry it through for another two years beyond that, even if Move doesn't work out as well as we think it will.

What I think would be really interesting would be to see sales comparisons between those two peripherals in a year or so.
Peace.

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godsman
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 11:29:39 PM

I think a console dies when it reaches the $100+ range. The Wii will certainly see a pricecut soon. Xbox took it's 3rd years to get to $199. Seeing how desperate their attempts to cut their prices show that the console is dying already.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 9:57:40 PM
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Xbox 360: 44.5 million
Sony PS3: 41.6 million

Damn I did not see this coming! There is literly a gap this smal I I.
Wow! The reason Ps3 is not outselling Xbox is
A) Because during that 1 year that Xbox had a head start literly all Xbox purchased RROD'd. Boosting sales by a double!
B) Ps3 used to cost a fortune! 600$

Thats pretty much it, if otherwise Ps3 will have equal to or more than Xbox units sold.

Wont be long before Ps3 surpasses Xbox. KILLZONE3, LBP2, SOCOM4, UNCHARTED3, GT5, AGENT, wow look at all the Playstation 3 Exclusives right of the top of my brain. Playstation Move... Kevin Buttler...

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Lawless SXE
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:08:45 PM

You're probably right on the reasons for the PS3 not being on par with the 360. And yeah, there is a brilliant list of exclusives coming up, but how many of them would you classify as bona fide system sellers. The only one that I can think of is GT5, as it has a huge fanbase and is guaranteed quality. Oh, and we can't forget about Move, provided that Sony gets the right support for it. Although, I don't think that too many people are buying the PS3 because of Kevin Butler. He's just the middleman.
Peace.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:18:59 PM

Dude I got in the KILLZONE3 beta, you have no idea what I experienced. In the middle of the game theres this explosion of some sort, I can't even explain. It's an explosion of green visible energy in some sort of big machine IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP! It charges energy & makes a really cool sound! Then BOOM! Energy bursts jamming the map for a few seconds. WHILE PLAYING MULTIPLAYER! DUDE MULTIPLAYER! NOT SINGLE PLAYER. Never before have I seen this in MP ( exept KILLZONE2 but not as cool ) When Guerrila said " They are pushing the limits " it wasn't BS. They really are. KILLZONE3 will definitely help Ps3 sales. Sure, KILLZONE2 is Kick-*ss but KILLZONE3 is better. I think the gap KILLZONE1 made to KILLZONE2, is almost the same as KILLZONE2 to KILLZONE3. The difference is noticeable.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:29:56 PM

Regardless of how good the game is, and I have no doubt that it is absolutely, insanely good, I don't see it being a system seller. I think that most anyone that would be interested in KZ3 would have gotten the PS3 alongside KZ2. But, we shall see, we shall see.
Peace.

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sirbob6
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:34:25 PM

Killa, you just made the wait to my birthday (Feb. 22) that much harder.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:37:38 PM

Trust me might be 1, might be 2 people 100, 2,000...1 million, but for every one person that buy a Ps3 due to KILLZONE3, it's a contribution to Ps3's sales.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:44:34 PM

Sirbob, if I could explain that explosion better It would have made your wait EVEN HARDER, but it's beyond anything I've ever seen anything in ANY MULTIPLAYER game.
It's not just flying bullets & granade explosions anymore... the environment has things going on on its own. So cool.

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BTNwarrior
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 2:37:59 AM

seeing the game agent in your list just made me think, when is the game the agency finally going to come out? or did it get canned

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Deleted User
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 6:40:26 AM

@Killa Tequilla: what you forgot to list the xbox exclusives let me do that for you. lets see here..........give me a sec..........um.........will there's...................
lol

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NoSmokingBandit
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:04:39 PM
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I've always wanted to know the number of installed consoles. How many are actually in homes? The 360 has sold more because people have had to buy multiple 360s due to failure, so the numbers are kinda skewed a bit. I'm willing to bet that there are more working ps3s in people's homes than 360s.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:31:54 PM

That would be a better way to gauge it, but how would they go about doing it? I suppose we wil never know the truth of the matter, which is unfortunate.
Peace.

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godsman
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 11:34:28 PM

I think the best way is observe the software attach rate of the PS3 and XBox softwares. You can buy multiple consoles, but you won't buy more than one game.

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sirbob6
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 10:49:51 AM

Unless there is an issue with disc scratching.

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Pandacastro
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:16:07 PM
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I predicting that as soon as ps3 outsells 360 microsoft will announce there next console.

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xXxSeTTriPxXx
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:17:37 PM
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major nelson reported that the xbox360 has on
only sold 42mil consoles in 35 countries.

@Pandacastro final TENSA ZANGETSU ichigo nice avatar.


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Pandacastro
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:55:32 PM

Nice kratos holding master chief head avatar.

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CH1N00K
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:21:19 PM
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I didn't realize that the PS3 was at that point. I can still remember when we were discussing that the Wii had sold 40 million. and MS and Sony were half of that...Out of Curiosity, anyone know where the Wii is as now that the " Wii craze" seems to have petered off a bit?

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StangMan80
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:34:49 PM

Yes, the wii sales are really slowing down as is the 360 both won't last much longer as for the PS3, it has a good another 5 years in it, but I can see the PS4 coming out with in the last year or so of that.
The wii was a joke and the 360... the only thing it has is getting it's 1 year head start and retarded people who keep going back and buying another one after it breaks, then going back for a third... so on, so on.

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johnld
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:39:08 PM

the last year out of five might be pushing it. we all know the rest of the console manufactures, sony and nintendo, will be dragged into the the next generation because microsoft will try to start it so they'll have another head start. although i dont know what improvements they can put into the next gen. probably integrated kinect hardware and actual HD capability like bluray.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:08:52 AM

Wii what now?

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Neo_Aeon666
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 10:09:17 AM

Well that might be BS but coming from Sony and Nin Nin reps... Nintendo should be releasing a new system within 1.5-2 yrs and Sony 3 yrs. Ps3 will remain active for much longuer tho lol just look at ps2 XD ( were still selling them )

But heck I don't trust the reps all that much. Most of the time we know more than them lol

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xXxSeTTriPxXx
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:24:21 PM
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@CH1NOOK i think a little over 70million sold

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StangMan80
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:28:02 PM
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Dude before mid of next year that gap will be closed. with so many PS3 exclusive games coming out and GT5 being the big one that gap will get pretty close to being nothing.
Microsoft has nothing halo reach came out but it ant selling many consoles only the Xbots are getting that... game. and we all now the kinect sucks... BAD! it's a joke for crying out loud the eye toy for the PS2 performs better lol

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johnld
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:35:33 PM
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theres just one question i want to ask, does these numbers use units shipped or units sold. we all know that microsoft counts units shipped as "sold" when talking about their sales. sony uses values of actual sold units, excluding the numbers they released for move units.

If they're counting units shipped for microsoft, then they may be sweating bullets right now. i dont see kinect doing much of an impact due to the fact that i dont see it attracting new customers with its expensive initial cost. factor that with the amount of repairs/replacements due to RROD and the idiotly fixed red dot of death, sony may have already passed microsoft already.

If they didnt count units shipped then microsoft is still screwed. the ps3 is outselling it worldwide even with a head start and at a higher price point and theres no signs of slowing down. they might even cut this lead in half because of the holiday season. sure 360 will sell units but rushing a broken system to market kinda marked them for crappy hardware. then theres the 360 loosing exclusives. i mean all they have now is about 2 main franchises and "timed exclusives" for DLC.

the only way for microsoft to be able to win this generation, which i can see them doing by the way, is prematurely start the next console generation. i for one wont be an early adopter because theres still a lot of potential left this generation. i'll just play my ps3 while buying ps4 games really cheap before i spring for a ps4. i know i'm getting one, just not anytime soon.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:45:49 PM

I think Ninty and Sony should wait MS out. Nintendo has enough money to rest on their laurels a bit and Sony still has a machine that is still being tapped for power. Just let the 360 stagnate, then MS will release their Xbox 180 and it won't get many exclusives because all third part devs will want to go multiplat so it will have to be on PS3 too.

Wait a bit so there are plenty of first party PS4 games then release it in time to crush Halo 6.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:41:37 PM
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To quote Agent Smith, "It is inevitable."

Though I must say I do look forward to the fanboy backlash when it happens.

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Temjin001
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:55:24 PM
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Like I've always said, it's only a matter of a few months before the PS3 will close the gap.....



.....well, I think it was something like that

=p

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frylock25
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:57:46 PM
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what if... stay with me here... what if the hardware department was the downfall of microsoft. irony?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 11:59:29 PM

Can't say anybody would put much faith in "Microhard"

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Underdog15
Tuesday, November 02, 2010 @ 9:24:14 AM

Would anyone have faith in a micro-hard ... on?

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hehateme
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 10:58:23 PM
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the ps3 will still be selling pretty hot 8 years from now maybe even more the ps3 is way too powerful for gamers to turn down its only going to get cheaper sooner or later which will make sales go

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Milonakis
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 11:09:36 PM
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Xbox doesn't sell worth a piss in other countries. This is basically sony's worldwide sales vs microsofts US sales.

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Kiryu
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 1:24:46 PM

Exactly dude Ms only in US!

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godsman
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 11:21:48 PM
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If is played as much as the PS3 or Xbox, then we'll see how reliable it is. My Wii makes that clanking noise like most other people, I just don't care enough to get it fixed... for over 2 years.

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BikerSaint
Friday, October 29, 2010 @ 11:32:56 PM
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Here's my take on the numbers game.

The PS3 has not only already closed the gap, they've already jumped ahead of MS sometime this year.

Think about it........

1. MS does the numbers to make make people assume they were "sold", when in all reality, they're actually "shipped" numbers.

2. Every one of those 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10and up, 360 re-buys bought due to their huge RROD fiasco, have to be minus-ed out from MS's numbers-fudging equation.

3. Subtract another 2 million+ 360's(half from the million boxes at once, that got banned for life, & subtract the other million boxes, just because the bots had to go re-buy another 360.

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Highlander
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:12:17 AM

LOL, I just posted something very similar...

Great minds think alike.

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Alienange
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:09:41 AM
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At the current sales ratio it would take two more years to tie the 360 numbers. Which means the PS3 would be six years into its life. The exact same time in the PS2's life that the PS3 came out.

You ask me, that's an epic fail for Sony.

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Highlander
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:14:09 AM

Why? The PS2 existed in a market place that was very different from the one we have today.

Sony's primary interest here is not beating Microsoft, but making the PS3 project a profitable one.

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Alienange
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:26:41 AM

It would be interesting to hear what you think was so different about the last gen. Other than Sony actually having exclusives from third party devs, I don't see much.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:58:07 AM

Gigantic difference. Xbox was a new console; everyone met it with tremendous skepticism, as all gamers met the original PlayStation the generation before.

The PS2 hit the market first; more than one full year before the Xbox and GameCube. The PS2 was following what was quite easily the most successful new system debut since the original Nintendo (Sega's multiple failures, Panasonic had the 3DO, Atari Jaguar, etc.).

The PS2 had it out of the gate. There was little or no chance either MS or Nintendo would ever catch up and in truth, neither ever came remotely close.

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Temjin001
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 1:35:26 AM

Judging by market penetration of installed user-bases I think it's been pretty clear the PS3 is nowhere near what the PS2 managed to accumulate in console numbers during the same span of time. But regardless, there's a whole lot more streams of revenue on PS3 for Sony to make a profit on. Including even the success of Blu-Ray and royalties, which by some analysts thoughts, it was because of the PS3 that the format succeeded.

And unlike anything I've seen before in gaming history, the Wii success story for Nintendo is totally unprecedented.

History seems to have shown that when a console company starts down a losing path, it eventually meets the grave (look at Atari's and Sega's consoles). I fully expected the Wii to be the end of Nintendo's console days. Man was I wrong.

This isn't to say I think Sony is going down. Sony isn't just a console company. They have their hand in many things that indirectly, and sometimes directly, affect each other--a good thing. Plus, I think, especially for this gen, success isn't a 5 year sprint, rather a long term marathon where it's far too early to determine winners and losers. For all we know, the Wii may end up weakest in the latter half of this gen. And really, the numbers look to be suggesting that. Nintendo entered the market with a system that was more of a 5 year platform at best.

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Highlander
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:11:47 AM
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The Gap is only 2.9 million? OK then, there are now officially more live PS3s than there are Xbox360s. There's no more catching up to do, they've been caught and over taken.

How do I justify this? Easy. Some two years after it was released the Xbox360 was suffering a failure rate estimated to be about 30%, and the majority of them were outside warranty and Microsoft still was not recognizing the problem. Based on the numbers, anything between 3-6 million Xbox360 units were failing during the first 2 years of the 360. Sure once MS extended the warranty to cover RROD, more units were repaired, but before that users were buying up replacement systems, which contributed to Microsoft's sales lead in the US. Then we also have to consider that more than a million 360s have been banned from XBL, and while they are still possibly working, the majority have been replaced by a second system so that the user can get back online.

At the end of the day, a conservative estimate for the number of Xbox360 units that were replaced due to failure or banning easily exceeds 3 million units.

Therefore, there are now more PS3s than 360s by virtue of the 360's mortality rate and the number of XBL users that earned their console a perma-ban.

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SvenMD
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 6:41:16 AM

HA! I love how you used the term "mortality rate"

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PharaohJR
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:21:24 AM
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Like BikerSaint said i believe the ps3 already exceeds the 360 sales.

people that i often affiliate with have a 360 over ps3. reason being its affordable but not worth the price my opinion & they have no knowledge of the product performance. even with the new ps3 commercials that does a brief video of its performance they still refuse to get it when there 360 had rrod 3 times or more.

the folks i know that have a ps3 have more knowledge & there mature compared to 360 owners. im a gamer & i play all systems if the games are live the system doesn't matter. when it comes to me contributing $$$ to a product it has to be authentic & Sony Playstations never failed me.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:21:47 AM
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Yup, GT5 will do the job.

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Jawknee
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:23:10 AM
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Soon. Funny I just read an article yesterday that said the 360 out sold the PS3 again. Didn't mention numbers or region. Only said Halo Reach sold a lot.

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Clamedeus
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 7:31:55 AM

Yea i think i seen one for Halo 3 as well if I'm not mistaken awhile back.

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Jawknee
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:45:04 AM

Not true. It's gotten smaller. Just very slow.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 1:41:49 AM
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The 360 Squat helped to sell but you gotta have software.

I can't think of a single game MS has coming out as an exclusive except Gears 3. I get the feeling Kinect will have a surge, people will find out it isn't any good, then it will fizzle. You gotta have a stream of software incoming or ALL their console sales will be rebuys. As if about 30% weren't already.

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___________
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 1:46:18 AM
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actually those numbers are wrong, apparently the 360 has only sold 42M.
knew it would close, but i did not think this quickly.
i dont think that will last long though, kinect is going to cause 360s to fly off the shelf like sliced bread!

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Clamedeus
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 7:42:53 AM

I highly doubt it, have you seen how it performs? It's horrible.

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nilos95
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 8:24:23 AM

clamedeus, it doesn't matter how it performs! At least not, when potential adopters are fanboys, really young children that haven't heard of hardcore(just nintendogs) and other really casual 'gamers'. So, they won't mind if kinect is crap, they will buy it since they love the scripted advertisements all over the world.

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Clamedeus
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 8:35:00 AM

@nilos95 I'm aware of that, that's whats sad about it. You should buy a product that performs well etc.

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___________
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 9:09:34 AM

it does not perform horribly, i tried it the other day at parra westfields and it works really well.
will be interesting to see how the incorporate it into core games though, things like shooters.
how are you going to shoot, reload, through grenade, take cover.
will be interesting to see how developers tackle that.
doubt they will release peripherals for it, because that just completely defeats the point!

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Highlander
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 8:27:38 PM

The biggest problem with Kinect (apart from it being crap) is that it's really nothing much more than a Microsoft PSEye. The biggest issue with that is the thing that they make a virtue of - no controller. In their commercials, you see lots of people in more open space than I have in my living room, jerking around like someone plugged them into the electricity grid. It looks just plain awkward. Not only that by they show at least one clip of a driving game where the players are holding their arms like they are holding a steering wheel to control the game. I can tell you now that those players will get tired quickly because you are not resting your hands on a fixed wheel, you're holding them up in the air. Not only that but without a controller, playing games like a racer will really suffer from the lack of precision and the problems associated with the player's arms getting tired.

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Ergi
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 2:27:22 AM
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What makes me wonder is why the US is so different from world wide. Preference for XBOX? I mean including re-buys and everything, the difference is like 6 million in the US right?
Edit: I guess you could say the same thing for Japan only the other way around.

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Highlander
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 2:44:16 AM

Chauvinism. Patriotic parochialism.

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Jawknee
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 3:37:55 AM

That must be why the PS3 sells so well in Japan then too right?

Just sayin...

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SvenMD
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 6:43:37 AM

There's also just the ignorance thing.

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Ergi
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 6:58:12 AM

But how come it makes so much difference this generation, there's no doubt that the PS and PS2 sold incredibly well. I guess taking all these points into account it makes sense, the one year headstart, the price of the PS3 at the beginning etc. Points well taken

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sonic1899
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 9:57:25 AM

@ TheHighlander & Jawknee
I don't think patrionism has anything to do with it, otherwise the 360 wouldve outsold the Wii in the US. Its that fact that the 360 doesn't have a lot of games the Japanese would play. Remember the Tales of Vesperia and Infinite Undiscovery spikes in 2008 and then the decline afterwards? If the 360 had more games like those, it would do better. But the 360 is primary known for shooters and those games don't cater to the Japanese but they do for Americans.

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Jawknee
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 11:41:03 AM

I don't think it's patriotism, nationalism or "chauvinism" either. I was trying to point out the flaw in that logic.

I think MS just got to a new, younger generation of gamers first with a cheaper console and more games at the start of this generation. Once people built up an Xbox library and then their console broke, most prefered to buy another instead of selling that crap and all of it's games like I did. I think we are still seeing an increase in US sales because many of them are upgrading to the new model for wifi.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 1:49:37 PM

US = buys everything that's cheap/cheapest

360/Wii

cheap

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FxTales
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 2:50:42 AM
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I tend to agree with what Highlander just said, the ps3 just about everywhere else is valued a heck of a lot more than in the US. Just sayin'.

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SmokeyPSD
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 4:33:47 AM
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Closing the gap is no problem whatsoever though. Sony needs to make a sizeable lead again is the thing.

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RobiinzZ
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 5:24:51 AM
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Man, these are great sales numbers for sony, and tbh, think its inevitable that ps3 will overtake 360 in sales, (and wii ;).

Also if microsoft released there next gen machine i personally think sony could keep selling the ps3 along side the next gen consoles, since ps3 would end up slowly being cheaper, and it would be a good upgrade for wii owners who still want the motion stuff.

I mean, the ps3 still hasn't been fully utilised. and i dont see alot of things to improve on next gen right now.

So i reckon sony should stick with the ps3 and ignore microsoft all together :P.

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dveisalive
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 6:08:44 AM
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Eventually when Grand Turismo 5 comes out that gap will be surpassed !

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Godslim
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 6:36:32 AM
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wow i didnt realise the sales gap had closed that much

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Clamedeus
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 7:26:11 AM
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Wow, that's pretty darn close.

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Jawknee
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 11:43:54 AM

4gb only? Really? That's gotta be a mistake. Who would buy a console with only 4gb of storage?

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 5:11:15 PM

Like he said, people who really don't understand what it means, like casuals and family oriented people looking into kinect. besides, you could get a 4gb just to keep save files on and nothing else, not too big of a deal, just a little better arcade version

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Highlander
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 8:32:55 PM

The thing is, I don't honestly care how many casual gamers buy the thing. They don't buy that many games - as Nintendo's experience has shown. 3rd party games do terribly on the Wii. Without the hook of existing gaming names that are familiar to casual gamers, casual gamers are far, far less likely to buy a game. This is kind of a problem for Microsoft since the majority of 'names' associated with their games are Halo, Gears of War and the like.

Sony has plenty of games with a broader appeal that are coming in 3D with Move. Look at the upcoming Ratchet game and the Sly Cooper HD remake for example. Casual gamers typically play these more cartoony, colorful games with familiar characters. Sony is - IMHO - in a better position to deliver such games than Microsoft.

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TEG3SH
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 9:26:41 AM
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guilty of 3 360 and now 2 PS3 :(

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Jawknee
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 11:45:12 AM

I'd you buy those other 360's?

Also, did you buy a brand new PS3 or did you use Sony's repair service?

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TEG3SH
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 3:58:29 PM

1st 360 died due to my stupidity ( american voltage is 110 and when I moved to UK its 220, I always knew it just slipped my mind one time when I was drunk :S)
2nd 360 rrod
3rd 360 rrod (and believe u me, as much as I love gears i'm not buying a new one)

I bought the new slim with the move bundle, thought it will be easier and faster to get it rather than wait for sony )

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Underdog15
Tuesday, November 02, 2010 @ 9:51:38 AM

I thought you were on your second PS3 now?

As for me, I didn't own my 360 for long. Sold it on ebay for cash for an engagement a few years back. But I did get a nasty email from the seller demanding his money back because it broke after a couple weeks.

I ignored his request. lol.

But as far as systems in my possession, I've never lost a system. I first PS1 had some disk reader issues, but $20 fixed that. I still worked, just would sometimes freeze during more labor intensive scenarios.

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Superman915
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 10:06:34 AM
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when u consider how many 360s out there don't even work, that gap is non-existent.

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tes37
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 10:12:32 AM
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I think the PS3 will pull ahead of the 360 in 2011, with or without skewed sales figures.

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Steel
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 10:52:30 AM
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I think we hardcore PS fans knew that someday it would come down to this. There is just not enough fat left for fail box to chew on. you can turn a bad thing around once or twice but trying to make poor hardware look like its better than great hardware is like trying to convince a millionare that he would be happier buying a Kia than a Audi.

Eventually the flame burns out and even the die hard Halo fans are like "damn, kinda sick of my xbox dying once a year...." The PS3 has supieror hardware durability and longevity without a doubt.

At one point in my life, like, about what... 5 years ago? I was a fail box fan. and truth of it is simple: I can admit I was ignorant. It took me replacing my box 4 times before i said screw this, sold my box, and litterally 45 games, and bought a ps3. I have never ONCE regretted or doubted my decision. The PS3 is timeless in my honest opinion.

The xbox's exclusives that I personally do wish I could play are: Fable III, Mass effect, and Alan wake. The great news is I can buy ME for PC (already have) AND it will be coming to the PS3, Fable III will be on PC as well (last time I checked?) So the only thing I am missing out on is Alan wake? Sounds fine to me.

As for the numbers, I think that GT5 is going to make a huge bomb go off this holiday season, (as long as it makes it in time) but with the advancement of Blu Ray players starting to funnel into more and more homes, That in itself with continue to sell the PS3 and close the gap.

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Steel
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 10:54:26 AM
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Also guys, uhm... since I am new and all.. how can I get ahold of some of your guy's PSN names? :/ I checked profiles but couldnt find anything? sorry I know this is far off topic...

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Temjin001
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 11:11:43 AM

Mine is the same as my PSXe name =)

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jlch777
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 11:36:11 AM

Hello Steel and welcome mine is jlch777 :)

Off topic: Where is my GT5 release day announcement by the end of October???

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 12:33:25 PM

Hey Steel and welcome to PSXE and it's awesome community.

PSN= FullmetalX10

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SixSpeedKing
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 1:42:13 PM

Welcome and as for PSN mine is Sixspeedking.

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RobiinzZ
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 2:09:06 PM

Hi, welcome to the site :)
PSN=RobiinzZ

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Pandacastro
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 2:48:18 PM

My is pandacastro and welcome

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 5:09:47 PM

PSN is the same as my username =P

also you'd get more notice in the forums itself

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TEG3SH
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 4:00:01 PM
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so jealous but congrats nonetheless

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thj_1980
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 7:33:00 PM
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the 3 million ahead is the all the broken 360s that microsoft has counted as a sale due to the warranty. LMAO I GUESS THERE ARE MORE WORKING PS3's out there then!

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xnonsuchx
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 8:58:13 PM
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It doesn't matter to the 360 fanboys...they'll focus on US-only numbers anyway (or ANY number that they can brag about), and even if that's not possible for them, they'll scream "HALO!" and rub their old-fashioned DVDs all over their privates. ;-)

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dead_prince
Saturday, October 30, 2010 @ 9:25:24 PM
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honestly i think the xbox is the worst thing created by man id rather by a zune and yes id rather b the only person alive to buy a zune then by a shitbox.....ive been a PS fan since the first beautiful grey playstation i even remember my first games spyro the dragon and soukiden olaystation is all about quality.......and out of all the consoles ive own (and ive owned alot) playstation has always been the one that never messed up on me i have only bought one ps1 cause mines never messed up i had to buy 2 ps2s well cause ma bro shot my first one out the window lol and i still own the 40 gb ps3 since it released

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The X Factor 9
Sunday, October 31, 2010 @ 7:17:29 AM
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Provided Microsoft doesn't brainwash America with Kinect this Winter, Sony has an avalanche of HUGE exclusives coming next year.

Seriously...Sony is dropping the hammer. Their momentum is up. Hopefully AAA Move software will arrive next year.

Look at the exclusives!
1. Gran Turismo 5
2. Little Big Planet 2
3. Killzone 3
4. inFamous 2
5. Resistance 3
6. The Last Guardian
7. Twisted Metal

PLUS
Mass Effect 2 and all other third party games.

Give it a year. Maybe 2.

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Robochic
Sunday, October 31, 2010 @ 2:22:39 PM
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The gap would be higher for PS3 if M$ wouldnt' count the rebuys as sales.

And I would like to disagree about Kinect it's not going to fly off the shelves for many reasons I talked to my friend who works @ retail store who tested it @ his house and here are the list of things he noticed with it.

1) the lack of space (u need alot of space)
2) apparently if you're living room is weird colors or not solid colors or have pictures on it behind you the kinect will have issues reading u
3) it lags
4) response time is slow

and a few others that i can't remember.

Honestly it's going to come down to lack of space the demographic of the 360 are young single males (some females) which for the most part live in bachlor pads or apartments which don't have alot of room to do anything.

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BikerSaint
Monday, November 01, 2010 @ 12:14:25 AM
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Robochic,
Unfortunately, we all know M$'s shady habits of hiding real facts, so they won't be advertizing any of the Kinect's numerous shortcomings.

So M$ will just continue to bamboozle the wool right over their fansheep's minds.

So, like just Lemmings are led to the cliffs, I see a mass hysteria of Kinect's jumping off the store shelves when MS releases them into the wild.

But I also foresee that in 2-3 months time, most of those poor little Kinect's will blindly follow their owners into Gamestop's (not-so)OK corral, where they'll all eventually die(off).

And their quick croak will never be considered as "a merciful death"

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Orvisman
Monday, November 01, 2010 @ 8:28:23 AM
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According to Microsoft it has sold 42 million consoles:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6283276.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop%3Btitle%3B6

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alcrowley
Monday, November 01, 2010 @ 8:53:19 AM
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I would like to see the total number of games sold between the Xbox360 and PS3... Around here for 1 genuine game for the Xbox, I see over 100 pirated ones. And that's not an overstatement.

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, November 01, 2010 @ 11:15:43 AM
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Was only a matter of time until this happened. Now that a PS3 and the 360 are nearly level price-wise, the benefits of the PS3 (free online gaming, the ability to play BluRay movies, etc.) no longer come at a couple hundred dollar increase in cost. Throw in the number of PS3 quality exclusives (and the 360's dwindling number of new exclusives) and it's easy to see why the PS3 is closing in.

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BattleFox21
Wednesday, November 03, 2010 @ 3:44:20 AM
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My PSN is CWS_BattleFox721 I'm on here everyday I just dont always sign-in and leave a comment all the time. Every1 usually hits on my p.o.v. so...@ Ben Dutka PSXE would be nice to be able to post our PSN Gamer Tags here. after all it is more like family around here. also, thanks for the great site and love ur reviews.

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BattleFox21
Wednesday, November 03, 2010 @ 3:45:40 AM
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I mean have it along side our comment or in our profile...to clear that up a lil.

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