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Is Call Of Duty Mania A Good Thing?

There is one approach we can take- as Gene Simmons always said, "there's no such thing as bad publicity." So regardless of your feelings on Call of Duty: Black Ops, the fact that a game has managed to place the industry in the spotlight once again (CNN, ESPN, commercials with Kobe Bryant, etc, etc, etc.) is indeed a "good thing." And given the erratic economy these days and some recent lackluster numbers for the game industry, perhaps we should stick with this simplistic approach.

At the same time, there are many who seem somehow morally opposed to the very idea of CoD. Or rather, not just the games, but everything that surrounds them: Activision and its controversial CEO, Bobby Kotick, the accompanying DLC that will never cost less than $14.99, and finally, ammunition for those who say shooters are dominating store shelves. I don't necessarily agree with the latter, unless you include third-person shooters, but that opens up a whole new can of worms. In 2010, arguably the best games of the year thus far are God of War III, Halo: Reach, Red Dead Redemption, Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy XIII, and Rock Band 3, only one of which can be classified as a FPS. And yes, there's Black Ops, but 2010 should close with Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit and Gran Turismo 5.

So it's not so much a lack of diversity, but perhaps a concentration of popularity on shooters. Then, you have to add in the fact that CoD is really built around multiplayer, and single-player fans have been feeling threatened by the multi explosion since the start of the generation. With a Call of Duty these days, we get a campaign that will only last a day or two if you play long and hard (and really, not even that long and hard). Toss that into the mix and many will say a game like Black Ops along with the corresponding mania is an example of a diseased industry. Or, at the very least, an unwelcome trend that could lead us to the doorstep of Hollywood, where mediocre, big-budget action blockbusters top charts.

Ah, but is CoD really "mediocre?" Of course not. Maybe the quality alone will keep the industry's good name alive, and the naysayers shouldn't worry quite so much. Maybe we only need to worry when a boring, less-than-average CoD sells 20 million copies on name-brand recognition alone. That will mark the beginning of the end, in my opinion, but right now...not so much. So is the mania a good thing? Eh...not really my cup of tea and it's hard to say for sure, but let's not over-analyze it too much.

Related Game(s): Call of Duty: Black Ops

Tags: call of duty, cod, cod black ops, activision

11/9/2010 9:18:57 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (78 posts)

Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 9:37:41 PM
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FYI, our Black Ops review will be up within 24 hours.

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frostface
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:02:12 PM

Haven't picked it up yet but your brother encountered the almost game ending 'glitch'. It may be worth adding to the review from the sounds of things.
Regardless, I'm hoping to pick it up within the next few days. It still looks badass!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:31:53 AM

I've seen one "game ending" glitch already.

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Godslim
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:32:23 AM

cool i wanna see what you give it ben....personally after playing it...it gets no higher than an 8.0

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Underdog15
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 8:32:38 AM

I played about 3 hours worth of multiplayer last night with my Codaholic friends. lol.

I think I like the multiplayer better than MW2, but it certainly isn't without problems.

I literally had the other team spawning all around me over and over... mind you, it worked out in my favor as sometimes they would even respawn in front of me for a knife kill, but I would be SO pissed if that happened to me.

Also, anyone else notice it's a little laggy in sensing when someone is hit by a bullet?

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X_shadowkilla_X
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 9:54:59 PM
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i find black ops more enjoyable than mw2...by far...i returned mw2 2days after i had bought it used. But i still am not buying black ops...only rent.

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Gordo
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 9:58:33 PM
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Black Ops is sold out at my local JB Hifi games store.

I'm puzzled by this now... I've played Modern Warfare, COD: World at War and Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops looks EXACTLY the same.

The graphics look the same, the custscenes and menus look the same and the gameplay hasn't changed a jot. Still the same spawning and auto aim and pushing forward to trigger the next wave of enemies...

So, Black Ops not for me this time. I've learnt my lesson.

In my opinion Killzone 2 and Vanquish are far superior products if you are into shooting things.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:27:39 PM

The changes are of course minor since the former games were as good as they were. However the changes in perks and how you can obtain them are significant imo. It simply makes the game better.

And you can't compare this with Killzone 2. Killzone 2 is no multiplayer online shooter.

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SvenMD
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 7:55:48 PM

I'm sorry BeamBoom....I'm confused....

Why is KZ2 no MP online shooter?
Cause I played the hell outta some KZ2 online...and it was awesome.

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Gordo
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 11:46:43 PM

COD is truly becoming the EA FIFA of first person shooters...

A new coat of paint and a few updates every season.

Looking forward to Call of Duty 2011.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 9:58:52 PM
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Good? Bad? I dunno. I'm happy gaming is this huge extravaganza of pop culture.

But I do get concerned if popular passions in gaming trends skew the gamer cattle away for too long while missing those other hot games I'd like to think all gamers would want to play.

I remember so many friends of mine who got lost into the abyss of WoW. So many games came and gone, all the while they endlessly grinded away at their quest for power and socializing. Some of them have escaped, carrying the memory of WoW's lofty burden in their hearts (yeah, I'm doing a play off LotR here for humor) as a reminder to them that too much of a good thing can be a bad thing, and some things need to come to an end.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 9:59:27 PM
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In answer to the question, no it's not a good thing. It reminds me of the whole Madden thing with an annual release and faux hype each year. Call of Duty feels like it's headed the same way.

I guess that's a hazard when your sales are as ludicrous as CoD's sales are.

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Temjin001
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:47:22 PM

It's too bad I can't pick up a CoD from 2 years ago for $5 like I can Madden. I'd lay down even $10 for a decently recent CoD =)

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carl0975
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:02:13 PM
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I have to give the CoD fanboys I know some credit, I have yet to see one of them purchase purely on brand name recognition, they've always surprised me with their knowledge of the game. I'm personally not against Black Ops at all, in fact, I'll probably end up buying it for Christmas or sometime around then, it does seem to be what I wanted from MW2.

Edit: Needless to say, I'll definitely be buying it used, Activision doesn't need or deserve the money.

Last edited by carl0975 on 11/9/2010 10:03:36 PM

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Qubex
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:10:28 PM
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Ben, I am not to fussed either way. In the end people have to chose what they want to waste their time and money on. As I have mentioned before, in similar ways, gaming is like chewing through Hollywood films. Some of the films that are released are master pieces, you want them in the collection, they are epic; others are just a cheap thrill and occupy your time for a few hours - alone or with friends.

Gaming is similar; generally, we have the games we want for our collection, the master pieces; others are there to be consumed quickly, and then thrown away. If a CoD game gives some entertainment whilst playing through the campaign, why not. If you want to extend that to multi-player antics on repetitive maps... again, why not for some.

Heck if they released a CoD every month, and you rented it and played through the campaign for 6 hours and then threw it away, who cares... the player is entertained... it is not a game to savor, or to have in the collection, it is a campaign you play through for an interactive Hollywood laden special effect extravaganza... an interactive action movie... that is all...

All in the name of fun, if that is your thing... I don't care how many CoD's Activision release... as long as you can pick it up and have a blast with it and throw it away afterwards.

Q!

"please don't hack me... I'm innocent"

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dante_zero
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:19:00 PM
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if anyone wants to read my black ops user review feel free. http://www.psxextreme.com/user-reviews/117.html

back on topic. i'm not sure COD mania is a good thing for the industry as COD is becoming an industry unto it's self and unlike warcraft it has a modern trendy image. Its already having a major impact on the way many developer think at the moment and has indirectly been responsible for many medicore titles.

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kokoro
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:25:00 PM
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No.

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Qubex
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:26:31 PM

Could you substantiate your answer with a reason, it would be interesting to hear it?

Q!

"please don't hack me... I'm innocent"

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Jalex
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:11:54 PM

I have to agree (with kokoro's initial post, that is).

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Underdog15
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 8:34:44 AM

I agree with all 3 of you. lol

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Qubex
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 10:25:20 AM

I relent... I agree with all you CoD nutters as well... who cars about reasons... lol!

Q!

"please don't hack me... i'm innocent"

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:51:55 PM
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I guess the real pickle is if there were no CoD, would the rabid fans even be gaming at all? That's a Chinese riddle for you. On a side note, Black Ops single campaign is so amazing. Even with little tech hiccups here and there, it's the absolute best of the series. Treyarch really put everything into this one, now they have been loosed from their WW2 shackles. From now on, I'll skip the mute, faceless, short, non vehicle operating campaigns from IW and stick with Trey.

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jaybiv
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 10:57:00 PM
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i would take cod media hype over the wii publicity anyday.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:15:07 PM

Except Nintendo's first hand creations are loads better and more imaginative than any CoD on the market.

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PorkChopGamer
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:31:50 PM

Yeah, Nintendo's NEVER made a cash-in game with only minor upgrades. Okay.

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Alienange
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:10:08 AM

Pokemon anyone?

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___________
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:15:49 AM

cough pokemon with the same story game in game out.
cough mario with the same story game in game out.
cough zelda with the same story game in game out.
hey, im finding a trend here.........
tis the problem with ninty, they rely on established series and done innovate on anything they just take a N64 version of it or whatever, port it to wii and hey presto we have a new game!

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 2:55:49 AM

I never said they didn't porkchop, read my comment again. I'm simply pointing out that Nintendo's games tend to get better reviews and higher marks. Their games are loads more imaginative and fun even though they do at times rehash stuff.

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Rings0fUranus
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:31:55 PM

Nintendo's First Party > Everything else.
Of course, my opinion may be sqewed because I am an old man...

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Nickjcal
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:06:31 PM
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this ones actually not to shabby. Although online on the ps3 is really laggy. Maybe due to overloaded servers?

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chedison
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 10:26:15 AM

There are no servers, it's like in MW2 where one person hosts.

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:18:43 PM
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the BO commerical with Kobe Bryant is hilarious. I'm a big Lakers fan. Go Lakers!

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:19:54 PM
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No, for the same reason Highlander listed. This has indeed become the Hana MontanaEA Sports of hardcore games.

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AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:24:25 PM
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As with all Call of Duty games, I'm getting BO used and cheap. Only wish they can bring COD: UO to the PS3 remastered.

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spiderboi
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:24:40 PM
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Like I mentioned before, in terms of quality, CoD games are "OK". But I think what pisses off some people is that it has the potential to be great, but instead it settles in the safe zone.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:35:55 PM
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Well, I don't think "mania" for anything at all is a good thing(not just for COD).

For a few of those that are already wacked-out head-cases, "Mania" just seems to lead to "Obsession", bringing out the worst or the worst, even more so.

But, I'll probably pick this up used after the next COD has released..... seeing how I'm not obsessed over all this mania.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:36:36 PM
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CoD is a great franchise but I just hope that with the addition of Sledgehammer, all the studio will now have 3 years of development time instead of 2.

That and more budget.

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madmike
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 @ 11:45:27 PM
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im sure it will still be two studios. infinity ward is done for, and unless theres another studio i havent heard about working on call of duty that only leaves two sledghammer and treyarch

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Underdog15
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 8:39:11 AM

IW still exists. It just has very different staff now.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 2:25:03 PM

Call of Duty to be 'Halo-ized' Next Year?

The Sledgehammer title may or may not be a traditional first-person shooter, and now industry sources, according to Gamasutra, are indicating that the next Call of Duty could have a radically different setting from previous games too. The sources have noted that it'll be set in the future and will feature space marines.

More here:

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/call-of-duty-to-be-halo-ized-next-year/

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madmike
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:04:02 AM
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i dont see why everybody hates call of duty its a great franchise ive played every one of em and have been pretty satisfied. and the graphics on black ops are comparable to killzone 2 and even better on the pc

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BTNwarrior
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 1:19:02 AM

those graphics are nowhere near KZ2 quality, hell they are not even as good as MW2's graphics

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 2:11:27 AM

"the graphics on black ops are comparable to killzone 2"

Yea, I'll never take anything you say seriously again. Mind boggling ludicrous.

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Godslim
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:32:56 AM

lol comparable to killzone 2 no they are not!

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Underdog15
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 8:38:27 AM

@madmike
Dude... there are arguments you can make in favor of Black Ops, but graphical quality is not one. Killzone 2 is in an entirely different league.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 9:47:17 AM

If you had said CoD's multiplayer is damn fun I might agree but graphic is not the highlight of CoD.

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NoOneSpecial
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:56:43 PM

Well, at least you didn't even try to compare it to uncharted 2 in any way whatsoever.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 2:30:54 PM

MadMike,
Could one of the reasons be that all their recent "WAY TOO SHORT" Single Player campaigns have been sacrificed, in order to grab all of the multi-players?

As a dissatisfied single mode player, I know so.

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___________
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:13:06 AM
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double edged sword, yea its a good thing to get peoples attention to games helps bring more money into the industry.
but than its also a bad thing because then you end up with, well, COD.
where everyone and his dog buys it and nothing but it, i know countless people who play COD and nothing but COD, trying to convince them to try something else is like trying to convince a old lady out of her ways!
IMPOSSIBLE!

than theres the other thing, where developers try to copy the game because its so popular.
if i want COD ill go buy COD, so developers FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP TRYING TO BE COD!!!!!!!
honestly i cant think of one shooter that has not been changed to try and appeal to the COD masses, i mean even KZ3 changed!
KZ2 had great controls, i actually found it allot easier to aim in KZ2 than other games i loved they heavy controls.
so they change it for KZ3 so they can be more like the sheep.
for once can we have a Sheppard, instead of a flock of sheep?

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Milonakis
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:21:02 AM
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Is it a good thing? Does the pope $hit in the woods?

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Alienange
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:23:36 AM
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First of all, thank you for a non bias CoD article. It's obvious that there are two sides of the fence when it comes to CoD and you've explained them quite nicely.

Although I personally don't understand why so many gamers hate CoD, I do understand why millions love it. It doesn't take a blind fanboy to know that CoD is a great gaming experience with the best online experience to ever grace a console.

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BeezleDrop
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 11:55:29 AM

Yeah, CoD is nowhere near the "best online experience to ever grace a console" that is pretty much an oxymoron there. So FAIL.

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Shadow_Ninja
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:56:17 AM
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i've come to notice that most gamers that do not like the COD franchise are PS3 gamers. As far as i know most Xbox owners love COD. i personally like COD. i think it has one of the best multiplayer experience. the only reason i haven't bought black ops is because my PS3 just broke last week, for the fourth time.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 9:37:46 AM

You fail at taking care of your PS3... broke 4 times? You're doing something wrong.

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NoOneSpecial
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:59:20 PM

I know people suggest not keeping it in an enclosed space, but at the rate that you are going through them, are you keeping them in a airtight bag and tucked into an electric blanket?

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Shadow_Ninja
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 6:00:05 PM

@ underdog & mrgrinch

you're both wrong. i have always properly maintained my consoles. from playstation 1 to playstation 3, and the only console's that have every broken down on me ever are my playstation 3's. and they stand on a counter in an open space environment. so please, keep your accusations to yourself.

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Gordo
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:58:56 AM
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I'll give the COD/MW series one thing... Their games hold their resale value!

Modern Warfare 2 costs more now than when I bought it a year ago. I bought it for $69 on lauch day, and sold it back two weeks later for $70. Now it's at $109 (Australian dollars).

Never seen it cheaper than on day one.
Who says patience is a virtue?

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BTNwarrior
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 1:17:49 AM
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Just beat the thing and have to say, the campain sucks. However what happens at the end of the credits is worth every hour (yes all 5 of them) that I spent beating it.

And for all of those who are wondering how it compairs to MW2, the first thing I thought was "I wish this was as polished as MW2" a game that wasn't very polished

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 2:57:53 AM

Yet some how, for reasons unknown, people will claim this game is on par with Killzone 2. Joke of the day.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 8:36:40 AM

@Jawk
The only thing I didn't like about Killzone 2 was the controls. I don't buy that whole lag/heaviness argument, so don't worry about that. I just never got comfortable with my look sensitivity on any setting.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 9:57:17 AM

I didn't mind the controls once I got used to them. Only thing that bothered me was the slow reaction timing when trying to shoot some one in close combat.

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Rings0fUranus
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:26:42 PM

The kill "chime" when you kill someone is an innovation I'm surprised hasn't been copied yet. That noise was so addicting.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:48:02 PM

They used that chime in Bad Company 2. Well one thats similar anyway. I do agree that sound is addicting. lol

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 1:40:05 AM
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Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, but Black Ops isn't getting a whole lot of recognition over here, except from dedicated gaming sites/stores/magazines. Not like Kinect, which is being advertised during the NRL games *shudder*.

I don't really hold a stigma against CoD. I don't care about the Infinity Ward scandal, and the asinine statements of the good folks at Activision have no real effect on me. I don't play online, so have no real qualms with people paying whatever they want for map packs. My problem with CoD stems from the fact that it simply doesn't interest me. I'm sure the games are good, and possibly great, but if I want realism, I have KZ2, if I want arcade, I have Resistance, and if I want something different, I have BioShock. I feel that I am covered in terms of FPSes.

When it comes to market saturation, I think the mass onslaught of the FPS has lessened considerably, as devs have learnt that only certain brands will sell as well as they seem to want. CoD being key among them. Look at most any other FPS released recently, and you will see that they simply don't sell as well. And you can't say TPSes as well, because they are generally a blend of genres. From action to survival horror, platforming, it is rare to see a TPS only being a TPS.

I've mentioned before of the focus of popularity on certain franchises, and the consequent effects of sales on other games of similar type. That is something capable of ending studios. Putting all of their eggs into a certain basket and thinking that they can get the sales of their model game. Not going to happen.

I'm sort of just ranting here aren't I?
I think the mania is a good thing, as it has the potential to bring in more consumers to the hardcore market over time as they find the desire to branch out from CoD, and eventually get into other franchises and genres, thus proliferating the gaming medium.
On the other hand, the immense sales of a game such as CoD that focuses on exemplifying the trappings of Hollywood, could be a bad thing. It speaks to devs and tells them that this is what the general concensus is. People want dated mechanics, a brainless story and flash. They don't want the innovation of LBP, or the immersion of Heavy Rain. They don't want the complex tale that is MGS4, or the style of Vanquish. They don't want the fear of Dead Space, or the depth of Fallout 3.
I am firmly on the fence.
Peace.

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JackC8
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 6:52:56 AM
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I'm completely indifferent to the whole thing. I just look for games that interest me, and there still seem to be quite a few. I guess it's like TV ratings: Dancing With The Stars is incredibly popular, but I don't care. I am not part of that demographic. I've always been rather proud not to be part of any mindless mob.

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big6
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 10:33:49 AM

That's a great analogy, and so very true.

I don't have Black Ops yet, but I've owned every other COD prior to this. I don't want to buy it, because I want to protest the arrogance of Bobby Kotick. But I'm also being heavily pressured by my friends and coworkers to get it, so we can play online (which is always fun with friends). What to do? What to do?

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coldbore
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 6:58:13 AM
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The fact that CoD is so popular isn't a bad thing I find, it's bringing a lot of money into the gaming industry, but unfortunately I feel it has some bad attributes to it, for instants, I feel the players are close minded, a lot of them won't play too many other games online and those games suffer from that, also I find that there just isn't much new added to these games ever, it's just new scenery and storyline. But the thing that enoys me more than anything is going on facebook and seeing my newsfeed spammed full of "ZOMG CALL OF DUTY!! MIDNIGHT RELEASE" I swear I must have seen at least 20 different people take pictures of the midnight release. On the plus side, I did find out that there are actually a decent amount off female gamers, I was shocked at the amount of girls on my facebook played games and were at the midnight release, good looking girls too ;)

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Athrin
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 11:29:20 AM
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yes, we now know who the Morons are

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Dante399
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 12:01:30 PM
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I don't know about you guys but I try to enjoy any good game, and CoD7 is definitely a good online multiplayer game. I play it like crazy just like I play Final Fantasy or Gran Turismo series.

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Zorigo
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 1:06:22 PM
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I dont whether to go for it or not? ill wait for bens review, then probably borrow it off my mate and then if i still like it get it.
im more interested in getting fallout new vegas... just want cod for a multiplayer fix, but i think blur can keep me good.

oh, and GT5. i want to put the HOURS into that.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:39:25 PM
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LOL! IGN only gave this an 8.5. I have also read the PS3 versions is pretty crappy. Looks like World at War but performs worse. What a joke. This is supposed to be the shining standard of hardcore shooters? Give me a flipping brake.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 4:48:34 PM

The game can be glitchy on both platforms, but I'm missing how Black Ops looks and performs badly on the PS3...seems great to me.

Certainly not Killzone 3 great - just based on the beta - but then again, were we really expecting that?

Btw, GameSpot gave it a 9 and it's averaging about 91 or 92% based on average scores thus far.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 5:11:33 PM

I read the DF face off. seems they are once again pinning the 360 as the defacto version to get. I usually take what they say with a grain of salt though i wouldn't be surprised if most of it is true. Can't wait to see what you guys give it. Only 4 and a half more hours to go. :P

I really wish games like Killzone would get more recognition. You should have seen the slew of idiotic comments in the DF thread. Most blame the PS3 hardware and laughed at those who tried to say Killzone 3 will out perform this game in every way except maybe hype and sales.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 5:28:09 PM

I haven't seen the 360 version so I can't make the comparison, but I don't think there's much wrong with the PS3 version. There are things wrong with the game, but such flaws will certainly be found in both versions.

And when the Killzone 3 BETA puts Black Ops to shame in just about every last technical department... Well, you can't change the minds of casual morons who basically only play CoD. It's like telling the Halo fanatics there are other FPSs.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 6:22:27 PM

"And when the Killzone 3 BETA puts Black Ops to shame in just about every last technical department... Well, you can't change the minds of casual morons who basically only play CoD. It's like telling the Halo fanatics there are other FPSs."

Truth. haha

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Rings0fUranus
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 6:51:33 PM
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Fun Fact: CoD uses a Quake III engine. Same netcode, as well. Both created in 1999, I believe.
So to say CoD is even comparable to Killzone 2 or 3, is just ludicrous.

Oh and for anyone keeping score, Jawknee is right. Black Ops got an 8.5 on IGN. Goldeneye 007 on Wii? 9.0. ;)

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 7:02:32 PM

I really can't believe he believes that nonsense. It's just too stupid.

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hehateme
Wednesday, November 10, 2010 @ 7:47:32 PM
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wow ive been searching for a free for all match for 20 minuets now no lie.... ive never had an issue and my nat is open and i have a solid connection to never have run into this problem till now

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