Square-Enix Didn't Implement Beta Feedback For FFXIV

Everyone is sort of hoping that when Final Fantasy XIV comes to the PlayStation 3 next year, it'll be vastly improved over the current PC version.

Well, maybe it will be, in that the PC version is actually not much better than the beta test. This straight from Square-Enix, as they've made a confession concerning the poorly received MMO (critical average of about a 5 right now): according to Eurogamer, S-E senior vice president of software development, Hiromichi Tanaka, said that feedback collected from beta participants wasn't implemented, as the team focused on "debugging." Essentially, they didn't change much of anything so the retail version was very similar to the beta. Said Tanaka:

"We received a lot of feedback from the beta tests. The development team should have focused on shaping up the game during the beta process, but because we were really concentrating on de-bugging the game – fixing all the bugs – that’s one of the reasons why we were not able to have all the requests implemented during the beta process. That’s why we do understand the reaction from the players, now the game’s out."

Lambasted for being half broken when it arrived, FFXIV has suffered quite the critic and gamer backlash. Square-Enix is currently working on a big patch to help fix the PC version, and we still assume the PS3 version will hold all the improvements and repairs the PC version will - eventually - receive. Obviously, though, fans will be unhappy to learn that their beta criticisms, while acknowledged, weren't acted upon.

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy XIV

Tags: ffxiv, final fantasy xiv, square-enix, ffxiv ps3

11/12/2010 10:37:20 AM Ben Dutka

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frylock25
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 10:56:59 AM
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that is really stupid. these guys continue to get dumber by the day.

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SirLoin of Beef
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 10:57:11 AM
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Not sure why they even had a beta.

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eLLeJuss
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:03:42 AM
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I have the game. It's AWFUL..... Got sick of playing after like 2 days. Only made it to like lvl 9 pugilist. The lag when u give a command is so annoying. And the crafting part was confusing. =/

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Underdog15
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 12:04:51 PM

crafting was confusing for you? ... Game is buggy, but there are enough tutorials in the game for crafting... maybe the trick is just finding the tutorials. (although not much else, it seems...lol)

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eLLeJuss
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 12:50:35 PM

Well i hate changing classes just to craft =/it is easy but its annoying to keep doing it everytime u need something......

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eLLeJuss
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 12:51:28 PM

And the battle is really slowwww and annoying. The thing i hate the most is the 2 second delay before action when you give a command.

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Underdog15
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 3:42:45 PM

Yeah that's fair about the battle delays. I figured out that, as far as the server is concerned, there is literally almost no delay from your command to what the server picks up. However, it returns to your system slowly, so the last thing executed is what you see.

In other words, the server records your action and logs it before you get to see it... so it "appears" to have lag... but that's a HUGE issue in my eyes...

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Jawknee
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:39:24 AM
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LOL! What a waste of time and resources.

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OtisFeelgood
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 2:42:54 PM

I agree.

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Snaaaake
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:43:55 AM
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As most Japanese would say when they're dumbfounded, "....................................
..................................................
..................................................
Hai?"

Last edited by Snaaaake on 11/12/2010 11:44:23 AM

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BTNwarrior
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:44:45 AM
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They should make a company slogan " SE, not listining to our audience since 2004"

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Jawknee
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:53:43 AM

LOL! It's funny because its true.

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Snaaaake
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:55:32 AM

Why is it since 2004?

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BTNwarrior
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:58:17 AM

Oops sorry ment 2002 the year ff11 came out, for some reason i thought it was 2004

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Jawknee
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 12:09:05 PM

I'd say 2004. That's when DragonQuest VIII was released. That was the last great game they put out in my opinion.

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Snaaaake
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 12:24:14 PM

Not true Jawknee!!
The last great games were FFXII and Kingdom Hearts 2!!
That is, unless you don't them both.

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Jawknee
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 1:03:27 PM

Ahh yes you are correct. Though i found Kingdom Hearts II to be just Okay and i liked DragonQuest VIII a lot more than Final Fantasy XII though i did like XII quite a bit. More so than XIII and X-2 that's for sure.

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b3mike
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 9:59:32 PM

I think SE only published Dragon Quest 8. The las true great game from them was FF12

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oONewcloudOo
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 1:23:14 PM
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thats not the additude to have with an MMO

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shadowscorpio
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 1:37:35 PM

Fans are already on bad terms with Square-Enix. I'm taking a business class right now and believe me a business's consumer base is one of their most important stakeholders. They are not following a good business strategy. If SE decides that they want to continue to not listen to their customers then I will be front and center clapping, saying, "Very Good." when the company suffers and has to eventually close up shop.

If there is a demand for something and you're not supplying it, someone else will. You're not a monopoly Square-Enix...

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Lawless SXE
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 2:44:17 PM
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Erm... Why have a beta if you're just going to ignore all of the people participating... Just another reason to call them stupid. Can we just not have anymore S-E news until you're covering their Fabula Nova Crytallis Nova conference in January, or I'm just going to get very angry at these foolish people?
(I am kidding, I think)
Peace.

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Oxvial
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 3:50:11 PM
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Awful company , there's a reason I don't own any of their games on my Ps3.....

Because they suck.

Last edited by Oxvial on 11/12/2010 3:50:30 PM

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Jawknee
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 4:50:18 PM

Reason number 2. There really aren't any games by these guys on the PS3.

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b3mike
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 10:01:18 PM

haha Jawknee, I was just about to say that

"FF13 says hi"

-apologist Square Enix fanboy

Last edited by b3mike on 11/13/2010 10:02:25 PM

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BikerSaint
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 4:50:49 PM
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This is certainly the #1 greatest company for having the biggest "Eye of the Moron" for it's leader.

SE could at least smarten up it's company up 100% by buying Will Robinson's robot!

Just so it can keep telling Dr.Zachary Smith Wada.............DANGER, DANGER...

......"That Does Not Compute"

Last edited by BikerSaint on 11/12/2010 4:51:42 PM

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BikerSaint
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 5:17:25 PM
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Speaking of SE, check this out....

Call of Duty: Black Ops Invades Japan

While Eminem's Won't Back Down featuring Pink is used for the ads of Call of Duty: Black Ops in America, publisher "SQUARE ENIX"(which is handling the duties for Activision) is going for something more regional in Japan.

Appropriately or not, here's the trailer with Namie Amuro's ROCK U, along with Eminem's too..

http://www.thealistdaily.com/news/call-of-duty-black-ops-invades-japan/

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 6:00:33 PM
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This company is doomed.

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Snaaaake
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 7:31:56 PM
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Selling something based on brand name alone won't last Square Enix long.
CoD can sell like crazy because it's EXACTLY what the fans wanted, but what SE is trying to sell isn't something the old fans would appreciate and not something newcomers would love.

At the rate they're going, they'll be the first to fall before Capcom, at least Capcom got MVC3 coming next year.

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Akuma07
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 10:38:24 PM
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Everytime they do something stupid, i think to myself, they really can't do anything worse than this as a company could they?

BUT....they allllllllwaaaaayyyyssss prove me wrong.

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Scarecrow
Friday, November 12, 2010 @ 11:17:02 PM
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Sad...there are so many good MMOs coming out next year. Square-Enix better fix this game up fast!

I was actually considering getting it for ps3...but man if they don't fix this I'll pass.

Poor Sqeeeeeeenix, karma my friend, karma! Just look at Ninja Theory.

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b3mike
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 10:05:20 PM

Well that's what they get for ditching Sony to cater to a fan base that doesn't even want their
games.

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___________
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 12:01:38 AM
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than what is the point of having a beta?
i thought the whole point of having a beta is to test out your game, get feedback from the fans and adjust your game accordingly.
if your not going to do anything the fans request, than why have a beta?
the PC version sucks, and ill bet 2 F1 cars the ps3 version will be just as bad.
oh $E, how you have fallen from grace.
:(

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Phoenix
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 12:04:08 AM
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I remeber the days when anything SquareSoft was a D1P for me.... But ever since they merged, they seem to be putting out pure trash, it's really sad to see the game company I once loved so very much, reduced to such a sad state =/ .

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BigBoss4ever
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 12:31:00 AM
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They are blind-sighted by the greed and loads of cheap cash and do not realize the end and dooms day is approaching under the Wada fleet flag, which will soon sink to the bottom and get rotten.

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Athrin
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 7:34:45 AM
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well u all keep saying SE is in trouble, that they gonna go under, well with sales of almost 6 mill for a mediocre game (FFXIII) it wont happen most ppl are all talk and no action. I havent bought a SE game since FFX wich was IMO their last good game.

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The Chosen One
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 11:29:05 PM
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The Last Great SE Game Was 12.They Have Went Downhill Since Squaresoft Joined With Enix.Biggest Mistake Ever.Period

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Athrin
Saturday, November 13, 2010 @ 11:59:56 PM
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FFXII sucked big time

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b3mike
Sunday, November 14, 2010 @ 6:23:44 PM

FF 12's storyline left a lot to be desired, but I found the combat system fun. Plenty of sidequests, awesome graphics.....I have to excuse myself, I'm getting nostalgic

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PHOENIXZERO
Monday, November 15, 2010 @ 12:49:02 AM
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Well, FFXII's development started in 2001 and took five years (give or take a few months) to come out, so I think it was a starting point of Square's decline that we've really seen since becoming Square/Enix. Square/Enix's desire to break away from being known as the "JRPG company" is also being their undoing. Along with the idiots in charge *COUGHWADACOUGHCOUGH*. It's no surprise they pretty much ignored beta feedback for the Final Fantasy MMO2 (still bugs me that they give the MMOs numerical designations along side the rest of the series instead of being on its own), Square hasn't listened to us in nearly a decade. Well, really they never listened to us outside of Japan, we're all stupid to them, just as we were in the past with their dumbing down games for us poor stupid westerners.

I didn't hate FFXII but I'm pretty apathetic towards it. They completely failed when it comes to attachment in a story/character sense for me. It was fun exploring though the Gambit system was possibly the most broken thing they've done since FFVIII's Junction system, well more with how hands off the game could without any effort in making it so.

The more I think about it, the more I could see it taking SE over a decade to make a PS1 or earlier era FF game, it's not a difficulty issue but a lack of leadership, direction and efficiency.

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