Yamauchi: "The Beginning Of A New Era For Gran Turismo"

WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 9:42:24 PM
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So far I see people ripping it to shreds, and Destructoid giving it a 10. What has this game done to the world?

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Temjin001
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:00:49 PM

If Edge gives it a 10 then it's the apocalypse, World.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:08:56 PM

It's a possibility Temjin, they did give UC2 9/10.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:23:01 PM

Hell has frozen over apparently.

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Xombito
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:27:38 AM

The reviews while having alot of criticism have given GT5 good scores.

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:00:38 AM

Xombito, true, but there aren't enough 11 out of 10's to do it proper justice =p

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Xombito
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:23:06 PM

It can have 10 and 11s in our hearts.

All kidding aside if Destrutoid has given GT5 a perfect 10 score shouldn't that show the greatness of the game?

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PAKINIPS
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 5:28:19 PM

The user reviews on metacritic are hilarious, read the negative ones
they are just so unsubtle its funny

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FlyingKickPunch
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 5:38:29 PM

Didn't Destructoid give Deadly Premonition a 10?

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 9:46:40 PM
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Cool, I hope if they don't already have cockpit views for the standard cars(don't have the game yet), that they slowly work some kind of cockpit view into all those cars at(need not be fancy either, mind you).

Not sure why it is but for me, I can only drive anything with 4 wheels or more 1/2 decently from a cockpit view, although I need the from behind view for every one of my motorsickles.

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NoSmokingBandit
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:08:16 PM

I'm all about hood cam. I dont need to see a wheel and hands on my screen when i see a perfectly functioning wheel and hands already. It feels redundant and makes me feel detached from the car.
Unfortunately, PD doesnt use a hood cam for whatever reason, so bumper is the next best thing. It feels low at times, but i adjust.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:17:56 PM

Biker, seems Max was right. There is NO cockpit for standard cars. Kind bummed. Seems like they should have make sure all the cars had cockpit view but its no a game breaker.

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godsman
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:19:58 PM

I think the cool part about cockpit view are the rear view mirrors.

still installing btw. can't wait!

Last edited by godsman on 11/24/2010 11:20:53 PM

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CONTRABAND
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:27:36 AM

I have the game and ALL cars have cockpit views.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:37:58 AM

Trust me, the standard cars do not.

EDIT: I should note Polyphony called them "dash board views".

Last edited by Jawknee on 11/25/2010 12:39:17 AM

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:12:21 AM

That doesn't bother me at all. For some reason, dashboard/bonnet/bumper camera angles just don't work for me. But I'll be all about testing it out on the premiums when I get my copy tomorrow.
Peace.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:18:21 AM

I have come to realize the dash board view is more of an add on than anything else as my preferred view is from behind the car. Nice having the dash view for the tracks with weather though.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:35:09 AM

The standard cars have a hood cam view, which to me is always the driver's eye view. When I'm driving in my real car, I am unconscious of the 'cockpit view' because my focus is on the road ahead and the tiny sliver of hood that is visible. In a way, this is what I expected. The standard cars do not have any kind of interior view, dash, cockpit or otherwise.

However, there are over 200 premium cars that do have all of that and more, so it's not an issue in the least, unless you're absolutely married to the view of an animated pair of hands moving a steering wheel while your view of the road is masked by the front pillars of the car.

I've put in about 4-5 hours with it tonight. It's easily the best GT game I've played yet. It's much, much better than Prologue, not to mention being feature complete. I can fully tune cars again! Yay!

The standard cars have the following limitations, you can't change the wheel rims style or color, there is no interior or cockpit view (only bumper-cam, hood-cam and third person views), the headlights only work on one setting in the Standard cars. I do have to say though that the car models appear to be no less detailed than those in Prologue. The courses I've seen have all been great, I've experienced no lockups or framerate drops. The game looks gorgeous on a 1080p screen.

With regard to what you can do to a 'standard' car, you can tune the living snot out of the mechanicals, you can strip it bare to reduce weight, you can repaint the sucker and stick an over-sized wing on the back. In other words you can make yourself a tuner.

Again the Premium cars have it all, and there are 200+ of those, so there is really no need to use the 'standard' cars if you don't want to, unless a specific event calls for the car to be used.

The only flaws I've identified so far are fairly long load times. They aren't monstrous, but for a modern game (especially one on the HDD) they are long. The other negative I've found so far is the driver AI for the PS3 controlled cars in Solo race events. What I have encountered so far is best described as infuriating. What I mean is, a real driver will defend their line, but the AI drivers do not, however if you get ahead of them, beware... the AI driver drives into you and sticks there fore a while killing your speed. In reality no race driver would deliberately collide with another, and then keep forcing the issue instead of backing off so that both drivers can finish well. I have been clipped on the rear quarter by an AI driver who is apparently unable to see me and continues to drive into me while everyone else escapes. It just seems like the AI driver might be too concerned with crashing into me, that they forget that they still have to finish the race. Annoying.

Apart from that this GT5 is about as good as GT4, only bigger snd better (HD, 3D and 1000+ cars,...)

The really bad reviews are just following orders.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:59:16 AM

Forgot to add, when you first start the game, there is an update to version 1.01 that downloads, so Polyphony is clearly still working on improving/extending the game.

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:04:52 AM

How bad is the screen tearing, Highlander?

And anyhow, I think I read that over time PD will release updates that'll upgrade the lower quality cars into premium cars--I hope I read that, I think I did =D

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:27:41 AM

Highlander:

There is no hood cam, you must be referring to the roof cam, situated right behind the top of the windshield.
And i think the update is mainly to enable the online play. Thats what some people at GTPlanet said at least.

The loading times bugged me at first, but it seems to have gotten better. Either that or i've gotten used to the wait. I think installing on the fly slows it down a little, but once i started grinding away at the license tests the tracks loaded much faster if i had already raced on it. The first time i did the Autumn Ring test it took a while to load, but when i went back to get gold it loaded much faster.

Temjin:
I've got about 4 hours in yesterday and i didnt notice any tearing at all. That doesnt mean its not there, i may have just been focusing on the road too much to notice.

Dont hold your breath for premium car updates. It takes a ton of time to put that much detail in a car so if they do upgrade any cars it wont be many.

Last edited by NoSmokingBandit on 11/25/2010 10:32:11 AM

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:21:34 AM

Tearing is practically non existent. Very, very small amount only when it's a map with a lot of buildings or cars. Turning on Flicker reduction seems to help.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:40:36 PM

Temjin
Noscreen tearing at 1080p.

Bandit
Whatever, the views as I would describe them are bumpercam hood (or drivers eye) camaraderie and third person. I see no problem with this.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:20:02 PM

@myself...

Never, ever, post from a Droid phone without proof reading.

That should read...

@ Temjin,
No screen tearing at 1080p.

@ Bandit,
Whatever, the views as I would describe them are bumper-cam, hood (or drivers eye) cam and third person. I see no problem with this.

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:38:01 AM

Of course I was right Jawknee. I wasn't making it up. ;)

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 9:58:24 PM
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Poor GT5, victim to all those IGNorant crap heads.

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dannytech_lt
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 9:59:41 PM
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Im huge fan to the series always have been and could not wait for this game to come since 2006 when we had the "demo like version" Prologue... anyhow ive played about 2 hours worth although i havent really enjoyed my 2 hours because honestly the game is a let down to what the fans are expecting... its one thing for someone to review it and give it a 9 but its another thing when a fan spend 60 dollars on the game and owns it and plays it repeatedly for 2 years... but its a big let down ... after all the push backs and hearing how it has to be "perfect" i expected perfect especially from a franchise as polyphony has made in the past.. but my upset is the selection of cars is VERY LIMITED.. BETWEEN NISSAN AND MITSUBISHI THERES 220 CARS AND HONDA TOYOTA THERES MAYBE ANOTHER 150 .. SO FOR A GAME WITH 1000 CARS ALMOST 400 OF THEM ARE FROM 4 AUTO COMPANIES.. THAN THERES NO CADILLAC IN THIS GAME .. NOT EVEN A BRAND ON THE DEALERSHIP MENU.. THEY HAVE THE CIEN CONCEPT WHO CARES...THEY DONT HAVE THE E63 AMG OR E44 AMG THEY DONT HAVE MANY 2009-2011 CARS FOR THE MOST OF SELECTION IS OLDE CARS THAT WERE IN GT3.. GT5 ALWAYS HAD CARS THAT WERE CONCEPTS BUT REAL .. LIKE WHERES THE NEW 5 SERIES OR 6 SERIES OF 335I OR RS4 THATS NEW NOT OLD.. THE CARS ARE WHAT MAKES THE GAME AND THE SELECTION ISNT GOOD.. ALTHOUGH MANY CARS ARE HERE I WANT NEW CARS NOT OLD.. I LIKE OLD CARS AS DO MANY PEOPLE BUT IN 2010 MANY OF US FANS WANT NEW CARS... TO WRAP THIS UP.. IM A HUGE FAN ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND WHEN WERE TOLD PERFECTION WE EXPECT PERFECTION AND THIS GAME IS FAR FROM THAT.. FORZA WHICH HAS HALF THE CARS MAINTAINS REALISM TO EVERY CAR FROM HANDLING AND SOUND TO EVERYTHING AND GT5 DIDNT DO IT .. ALMSOT AS IF GT5 STOPPED 2 YEARS AGO WITH THIS GAME.. I HONESTLY BELIEVE WHAT COMPANIES DO NOWADAYS IS HYPE SOMETHING TO MAKE THE BIGGEST PROFIT AND CUT COSTS AS EFFICENT AS POSSIBLE SO THERE PROFIT MARGINS EXCED EVERYTHING... AND THATS AN HONEST ANALYSIS

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:08:14 PM

Dear Sir,
I sincerely apologize because your post is so crammed and long that I didn't even bother to read a quarter of it.
An advice for you Sir is that you can press the enter button while typing.

Yours truly,
Snaaaake, the man who visited the Underworld and Hell.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:25:12 PM

You must be new to PSXE as well, relax the caps. You kids and your drugs...

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 11/24/2010 10:25:38 PM

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AntDC
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:59:01 PM

Just a tip, people hate seeing CAPSLOCKS. Even if you have a very reasonable opinion, most people, such as myself, will automatically presume you are a loud and obnoxious moron, even when you do have a really good point. :)

I think the reason you'll find that so many cars fall under those 4 manufacturers is because... They are the worlds biggest (well certainly Japans biggest) makers. So it's only logical they represent a large chunk.

Happy racing!

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StangMan80
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:15:55 PM

Relax. Dude you know how long it takes to make a car? It toke PD 3 months to do one car. They did 200 of them.
Forza isn't even close to a simulation as GT is.
We will get patches and DLC.
Calm down the game is fine, perfect it doesn't have cockpit wiews in all cars and it does;nt have the new models of cars but the cars that care brought to us look amazing, Premium or not. I'm sure we will get more cars and cockpit view later down the road but what GT5 delivers makes you forget about the small things that some people makes there entire revue about. GT5 gives you so much, you can mistake it for a real life and the physics are better then ever, NASCAR, course maker, drifting, rally, Go karts, 3D, car customization/tuning. GT5 is the best Sim ever and people like you make what could be an amazing experience to a huge pile of BS.
Again, Forza is whats the BS, you all claim it to be better when it's nothing close to be a true sim. it an't real and it doesn't look real.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:49:30 PM

Ooooh, you're just begging to be banned. Drrr...all caps is teh no, no.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:11:28 AM

Danny,

You failed as soon as you wrote this "but my upset is the selection of cars is VERY LIMITED."

Utter, and complete BS. The range of cars in this game is mind numbingly large. There have always been a ton of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Subaru and other Japanes/Korean/Asian brands in GT. That's just the ay it's always been. But there is simply no way you can argue that the car selection in GT5 is very limited. Saying that the car selection is very limited is simply a false statement.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:25:51 PM
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Its hard to feel anything but disappointment for GT5 considering how long its taken to make. I really thought the game would look better especially the almost laughable environments. In the end though it is a good racing sim but its going to get boring very quick for those not totally dedicated to the racing sim genre.

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FM23
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:37:59 PM

Totally agree. I'm not even a fan of GT, but I can't help but feel dissappointed with this game. Unlike FFXIII, which was my first, I loved it unlike many here which I know why, but this is my first giss of GT since GT3 (which I didn't own either) and I'm just not impressed so far with it. I do not own GT5 yet, but I have played a good amount of it at my girlfriends brothers house and all I can say is, 'why did this take so long to come out?' And to be serious, 1000 cars is overkill as most of these cars will not be driven by mean when I finally pick this game up. And just like you said...those tracks look boring. I know alot of people are going to be mad I wrote this, but this game just didn't deliver on it's promise, but in the end, its still a good game from what I have experienced so far. Plan on buying it this saturday, hope my mixed feelings change once I finally have in my ps3 to exploit at my will...lol

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:43:42 PM

If you aren't a fan then aren't you supposed to be unimpressed? Why would you want to simulate something that doesn't appeal to you?

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FM23
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:00:42 PM

Basically because I want to explore something new. I am tired of arcade racers and since I enjoyed Grid and Dirt 2 so much, I said let me try a real simulation racer and of course GT5 fits that description. And like I sai, I don't own this game yet, I only played it at a friends house and that is never the best way to experience a game, so when I pick it up and play it by myself in the comfort of my home then maybe my opinion will change. Remember, I'm not impressed because this is actually all new to me, but time has proven my first impressions don't always tell the truth. There are alot of games I didn't like at first like Bioshock and now I consider tehm some of my favorite games. So in the end, I'm tryiing something new and since I like cars alot...GT5 seems like something that will broaden my horizon. I have not had a chance to completely experience the experience, so my opinion is nothing but subjective opinion and thats all.

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godsman
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:27:26 PM

I think people that are disappointed at FFXIII was because the quality of the gameplay and story having much lower standards than previous games, but still a good RPG nonetheless.

GT5 was the same game as before but better and more content packed into the disc, so fans won't complain. New comers might have different opinions. I can say, for $60 GT5 will be worth your every penny.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:46:34 PM

Small disappointments here and there but overall the game is great and well worth the money. Especially the Collectors Edition.

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The Real Deal
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:30:32 PM
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Listen, people that read PSXextreme are really knowledgeable in regards to the play station brand. So in saying that let me say that if you bought any other exclusive titles in the past than you need not worry about Gran Turismo. It is a fine game and although it doesn't rank in quality with games like uncharted it does provide the gamer with a similar experience, which you have come to love with the PS3. I agree with allot of people who says the game should be perfect, it did take five years to make and there is no excuse for that. However as you can see the director and the team are aware of the issues. I truly believe sony pushed this title out the door not "Yamauchi" and with time he will make it the best possible experience it can be in the next couple of months, it will never be perfect, but at its heart its still gran Turismo and any true fans should not worry.

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FM23
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:41:30 PM

But they had five years to perfect it, what were they doing? I don't own an Xbox, but if I were a Forza fan...I would be extremely satisfied with my 2 year installments. And patches mean more hardrive space be taken up, I got a 40GB, not cool. I thought Blue Ray could hold alot of space, why do we need to install so much data....oh yeah, 1000 cars that are completely unnecessary.

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FM23
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:55:31 PM

Hardly, you put that in my mouth. All I'm saying is I find 1000 cars unnecassary. Has nothing to do with GT5, hype, etc...it's called preference and observation. For me, it isn't a game maker at all. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything because everyone is entitled to their opinion, personal hobbies, etc. Sorry if you feel the need to get defensive for no reason, but I can understand why you did...my post does read like some troll crap...lol

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godsman
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:29:24 PM

Yes, I'm pretty sure Polyphony would not have the mandatory 133mb install on the first day. It doesn't make sense to not "put" these data in the disc. Unless it's because Sony was in a rush to push the game out the door.

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Clamedeus
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:25:42 AM

@FM23

Blu-Ray can, if i remember correctly it has a max of 500G of space. And Sony is developing a 1TB disc not sure when that's coming out.

But you are limited to the space you have on the Harddrive.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:23:07 PM

It has a max of 50GB of space, the ones they use

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Clamedeus
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:07:01 PM

I thought it was 500? Hmm didn't know it was 50 i could of sworn it was higher.

So, they have a higher one? But they use the 50 correct? Or they don't have a 500 one? O_o

Last edited by Clamedeus on 11/25/2010 2:12:02 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 4:18:51 PM

They are currently developing Bluray discs with 500+ gb. The problem is, the PS3 won't be compatiable with them so it's a lost cause hoping well see 500gb Blurays on the PS3 in the future.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:54:05 PM

The standard cars look just as good, I would know I have an LED Samsung monitor.

Maybe you're taking yourself too seriously? Or might be a side effect of losing too much?

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:43:51 PM

oh stop whining, they are not as bad as you describe. Only difference I see is the lack of cockpit view which is disappointing but after getting the game and see all that it has to offer is hardly worth crying about.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:57:55 AM

Sweedie, that's just trolling dude. The shadows do not look like something from the PS1 era, that hardware was never capable of anything remotely like this, so don't pull something out of thin air because you think it sounds good.

The shadows (on all the cars) are no better or worse than those I've seen in other games. The standard car models are marginally (it's really very slight) less detailed than the premium ones. But, for crying out loud there are over 200 'premium' cars, surely you can find one that you are after from amoung their number, if the standard ones bother you so.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:22:15 AM

Sweedie, I'd also like to add that the menus look and operate fine, the install only took me 25 minutes, the loading times are no where near as bad as you make them out to be, jaggies and flicker can be fixed in the option menu under display settings, take your pick. Oh and I have managed to win every race so far with the first premium car I bought, the 97 Civic Type R. Maybe you're just not very good?

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:28:13 AM

Either my PS3 does have super powers like the Flash or you're being dramatic. ;)

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:25:30 PM

Sweedie,

It's trolling in the sense of saying something to get a reaction. You over exaggerated the situation with shadows in a thread about GT5 which is currently receiving more than it's fair share of criticism. You have to have known that would get a reaction.

Trolling is generally acknowledged to be posting something that is likely to incite a reaction. That's not quite the same as being a troll in the sense of being someone who only posts trolls to disrupt, clearly you never do that, but this post was provocative, and is in that way, IMHO, trolling.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:51:12 PM

Need I remind you the low scores MGS4 was getting at some sites?

Yeah...

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:20:28 PM

Even IGN gave MGS4 a 10/10. 8.5 for this is surprising. After playing it can't say it deserves a 10 but it's much better than an 8.5.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:36:54 PM

IGN gets more schizophrenic every year.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:52:01 AM

Jawknee, there are very, very few games that ever deserve a 10/10, and yet a lot of games have been given that score.

GT5 may not be a 10/10, but it's sure as hell not an 8.5/10. I', still thinking high 9s.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:10:55 AM

Agreed. I think MGS4 and maybe Uncharted 2 are the only games I can think of that deserve a 10. IGN is out of their minds. I say this gets a 9.5. Easily.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:50:19 PM
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Nice! I'm hoping to see some of the older GT tracks like Red Rock Valley make a comeback.

And of course more cars would be awesome. Though the game's packed with content so this is just extra stuff.

Really looking forward to what they do with the online portion as far as new events, tweaking anything that needs adjustments, etc.

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It's good to see the haters coming out.

The game will still sell 5+ million. Why because it's that good.

A lot of the bitching comes from the Arcady/casual racing fans who know nothing 'bout sim racing and are expecting to play a Burnout/Grid game.

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The Real Deal
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 10:53:44 PM
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To those that think the tracks are boring i can tell you there not, there are races that take place in cities an the building are recreated to perfection, there's mountains, bridges, water, and the sky is truly epic, although i don't think the clouds move but still looks great. If where talking negatively than i would say that the game is just to inconsistent. They should have not included the 800 other cars unless they were up to par with the rest. They should have at least added graphics with respect to sliding in the dirt or grass, at this point it looks cheesy at best. They should have allowed either damage to be more responsive when getting and being hit although there are cars that do actually look amazing for example Nascar and the very high premium cars. The sound should have been better when you hit other cars and the engines tend to be hit or miss. But after all of this which is what i have noticed wrong with the game. The things it got right are truly awesome. And although i hate to admit it the Good does out way the bad, so much so that you almost don;t notice the negativities. The only reason not to by this game is if your waiting for gran turismo 6, which i do believe will be the perfect game that people thought this game was suppose to be.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:54:29 AM

LOL! Anyone who says that the tracks are boring need to sod off back to playing an arcade racer. This is a real racing video game with real tracks and real cars. The courses are largely recreations of real places, sadly, reality often pales into insignificance compared to video game reality. But in truth it wouldn't be GT5 if the courses looked like something from NFS.

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AntDC
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:08:54 PM
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I got this game pre-ordered today, and thankgod I pre-ordered. Three people in line in front of me were turned away after they asked for a copy: it'd sold out.

I've only had a quick look around so far, not enough to form a solid opinion but so far I'm extremely impressed. Ignore overzealous reviewers, the graphics are incredible. Even the standard cars look great. I like the little things they've added, like personalised profile home and the ability to see a demo of a car before you buy it. Loving being able to revisit the classic tracks, especially Special Stage Route 5 and 7!

Anyway bottom line is, if you like Gran Turismo, you are going to love this, and have probably alreay bought it anyway. People can nitpick all they want, at the end of the day it still oozes more quality then any game I've touched since Metal Gear Solid 4.

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The Real Deal
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:10:17 PM
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I need to remind those people that don,t like the menu system that although the menu system is tedious, having to exit all the time, having to actually go to the garage an select a car every time you want to race a specific car, having to go back after a race is done to select the next race in that session, and lots more. I need to ask what other game has included so many options in one area, how many? The menu system is customizable to a point to cater to each specific person. It will not be fun for the first few hours that is a giving, however if you put some time in it it will become something you not only tolerate but possibly appreciate because of how much is there.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:13:24 PM
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I'm only going to say this once- if you're not a hardcore fan of racing and you're focusing on things OTHER than the physics, you're going to miss 99% of why GT5 is desired by race fanatics.

This is the reason why not all critics are qualified to review it, and why not all gamers should love it. When it comes to simulators, it's ALL about the physical authenticity, plain and simple. If THAT fails, we have a problem. But some lame-looking shadows and a subjective car selection isn't about to make a big impact on us.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:18:44 PM

I know someone who said he's going to opt for Forza 3 because......you can't change the wheels.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:22:50 PM

This is 150% correct. People just don't understand GT. They expect it to deliver as a arcade game does. GT5 gives you everything to make the best sim ever, the best graphics you'll see in a video game for a while and endless features. But people don;t understand that and make the review what it doesn't have that they want and not for what the game gives you.

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StangMan80
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:28:19 PM

somebody at IGN said that some tracks look bad? have you seen them all? I have and they all have the same amount of detail and time put in them. Maybe you should play the game before you make BS comment. Some people I swear... I wish all the stupid people like these guys would fall over dead, mainly Xbots.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:32:19 PM

Graphics are great though I swear the cars I imported from GT PSP are lower res or detail or something. They looked less detailed than the other cars. Disappointing we can't use our PSP cars in the career mode too. They can be used arcade mode only.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:47:56 PM

There are no blinders, you're just being a nitpicker. The game is fine and deserves at least ta 9.5. Stop whining.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:10:41 AM

You're letting the hype get to you and you're focusing on the small negatives far too much.

I didn't say we had blinders on; I told you what the focus was. That remains a fact. You may not know enough about cars and racing to have much to say regarding the physics...this just so happens to be the case with most people.

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___________
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:16:36 AM

the physics is all that matters!
this is a sim after all, the whole point of this is to be a direct copy of how it would be like to race these cars on these tracks in real life.
thats the whole point of GT!

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:46:36 AM

@Jawknee,

"I know someone who said he's going to opt for Forza 3 because......you can't change the wheels. "

Who said this? They're a dolt. The game features over 200 premium models of cars that can have their wheels changed, full aerodynamic modifications not to mention dozens of other tuning options.

That complaint is the complaint of someone who simply wants to complain. I've never played a racer (other than GT) that allows so many tuning options, tweaks and other performance related modifications. For me, the core of this game is the physics, the racing, racing familiar cars as well as exotics, and tuning them to the max. None of that is affected by the lack of changeable wheels on Standard cars, quibbles over shadow quality or worries over the game's load times.

So far it's a feeling of familiarity and joy that it's here at last.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:00:59 AM

Oh joy, turns out you CAN change the wheels. I found the option under GT auto. Same place you get a paint job and wash your car among other things.

EDIT: I read it somewhere. It might have been in the comments section here now that I think about it. We posted at the same time. Didn't see your reply until after. =P I did find more tuning options than I saw before including wheels, paint and aerodynamics. I agree with you. The amount of content and options in this game is blowing my mind. So glad I bought this. Been playing it for 4 hours now. Oy, gotta sleep soon.

Last edited by Jawknee on 11/25/2010 3:09:09 AM

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bigrailer19
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:19:36 AM

Sweedie I think you need to look at all the other racing games out their including previous installments of GT. Your complaining bout a lack of a cockpit view in the standard cars... Thats understandable and maybe a legit argument... But did you not realize tere is over 1000 cars in this game. 200 of them are premium cars and replicate to the T! If you take a look at any other racer out there they don't have even close to 200 cars period! I agree to an extent that it would have been nice to have all the cars have cock pit views but you also should keep in mind something... That it takes 3 months to model one premium car for polyphony. Do me a favor and multiply 1000 times 3! Pretty simple math yes, but the amount of time it would take to make all those cars have your precious cockpit view, we'd be waiting for GT5 another 5 years atleast.

The load times should not be an issue for you! Your nitpicking ends their! Not only have I never experienced a load time over ten seconds, but neither have any of my friends and I have 3 of them with the game right now... I should ask some fellow Psx members who r on my friends list just to get a few more thoughts on that.

And the menus? Listen anyone who complains about a way to navigate through a menu has wayto much time on their hands!

Also my first car was the Mazda 3 and I have yet to lose a race. It don't get much worse as far as performance goes from any other cars in the game. Maybe you should work on getting some more of your licenses. And instead of settling with a bronze try for gold. You'll greatly notice your skills increase!

I wish people knew what this game was about. It seems like people can't accept that it's about the beauty of vehicles, it's about the thrill of a race, knowing that any slip up could cost u the race, maybe even series. It's about tuning these cars in such a way that you try and tap it to it's full potential as would any enthusiast. GT5 is not about catering to a niche group, or making navigation through the menus easy, or making everyone happy! It's about supplying a racing game that true fans of te series would enjoy. It's about supplying a game, Eh hmm excuse me its about supplying such an experience that is so realistic to the automotive racing world that you, even if still a game, get a chance to experience what these cars can do! GT5 is a racing simulator that is about the cars, the race, and more importantly the fans!

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bigrailer19
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:27:15 AM

Jawknee-

That's exactly what this game is about the content! If people truly understood the amount of detail in this game, an argument such as menu navigation would be irrelevant! I'm sorry but people obviously either don't remember what GT is, or just simply have never played one! Either way the game is huge, the cars are so slick and act so realistically, and all the while the game maintains an experience that people could obsess over!

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ABUrabad
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 5:06:00 AM

yes Ben ,Give it in their faces ,GT5 has been always about being a simulates and it always will be , no one have ever experienced a real driving experience as GT5 deliver and thats much more than enough there is NO REAL MATCH FOR GT5 AND there will never be
GRAN TURISMO should be reviewed only by real race drivers not gamers

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:16:26 AM

Yes, I agree Ben. THe purpose of the game is simulation. It can be labeled boring or bland or out dated or a long racing grind (what!?) , but that doesn't change the fact it's a simulator above all else and it succeeds at that in spades. It's almost as if some reviewers expect the series to give way to being sensationalized as something other than simulator.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:35:46 AM

Sweedie: My entire family has been in and around the automotive industry since about 1955, my father included. I'm sure all of us will have an opinion on the game; we don't need to get all juvenile in "whose friend knows more."

You're not making any points we haven't already noted in the game. Don't worry; I'm sure Arnold will mention them in the review. It won't get a 10. We know it's not getting a 10, due to the issues, several of which you've listed here. But what you're doing is what I said WE can't do: complain that it doesn't fit the image in our head of perfection.

Like I said below, if you can find for me a racer that is better than GT5, you just let us know. We have to compare and contrast with the competition and I think we ALL know Forza falls well shy.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:27:08 PM

I didn't "bring up" anything. You were focusing on that which matters far less than the actual gameplay, and I called you on it. That's all.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 11:57:46 AM

Not once did I refuse to acknowledge GT5's issues. In fact, I've mentioned them twice to you already.

You apparently keep missing that and keep coming back with the same, "you're ignoring things because you want to" argument. No idea why.

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The Real Deal
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:14:59 PM
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As for the loading times they are a pain but the game is pretty smart, i have to recommend that everyone that can install the 8gb memory install because it speeds things up, also there a misconception that the game will do this automatically which is true to a point, and i believe that was put in to place because the makers didn't want to isolate those that do not have all the room. The reason i say do the install if you can is because after you do it things run faster for one and when you first start playing each section that you go to will do an additional install and basically when you visit that same area in the game it will be quicker, not much but still. So basically its works like a computer does, when you visit websites, the computer stores a cache of the visit so the next time you go to the website it will load a little faster, pretty smart i think other than the fact the load times should be a tad bit quicker.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:35:41 PM

Meh, installing the game makes the loading times tolerable. Not a big deal in my opinion.

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The Real Deal
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 11:33:07 PM
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But my last note is the most important after which i will retire from posting anything for a very long time. There is no other game like GT5......... (period). The physics in this game are so well done that it really does feel like your racing a real care. Whats that you want an example, Okay!

I watch Nascar and have played some of the past games for the sport. And although GT5 does not incorporate a full roster or many tracks the part that sold me was when i was doing the challenges and was trying to pass jimmie johnson or dale earnhradt jr. or any other of them like i would with any other racing game. Example: i start the race and go the the bottom of the track and give it full speed while the other drivers are up above me. I thought i was golden because i was on the part of the track that covered the most distance compared to the other drivers who were driving on top. What i realized is that not only did i not pass any of them they were getting further from me each passing millisecond.

The next time i raced i realized that i need to draft them, just like they do in real life, and by golly did it feel and look like the real thing, i am not kidding. Also i damaged to spoiler and it looked like the real thing. I also hit the bank and by golly i bounce off and went down the track and was spinning in the grass with a big dent on the front of my car, just like the real thing. GT5 physics are the most genuine and true to life that has ever been in a game, and for that fact alone is why GT5 although imperfect is the Real Deal!!!! Good night!!!

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enjoi
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:12:35 AM
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GT6 please upgrade the sound! Everything else is perfectly fine but the sound is a bit lacking. Especially during shifts, it's like the engine turns off while changing gears.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:21:28 AM

Sounds great through my surround sound system.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:51:07 AM
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One last thing- we have to compare GT5 to what's out there; not what's IN OUR MINDS. What is in the minds of many is perfection or something earth-shattering. We're not allowed to score that, you know. We can only compare it to the competition that actually exists.

When you do that, you should ask yourself- "can I name a racing game that is better, or that does a particular element significantly better?" If we can in our review, we'll most certainly mention it.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:27:18 AM

That's the ticket. A reviewer can't really allow themselves to buy into the hype. They must keep themselves grounded, and look at the reality of the competition, rather than the fantasy of thought.
Peace.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:49:52 AM

Ben, that's exactly the point I have made about the IGN review. the same source (not necessarily the same reviewer) gave GT5 Prologue 85, and there's no way in hell that GT5 isn't worth more than that. Apart from that you have NFS HP at 90/100 and Forza 3 at 94/100. Having played GT5 for a few hours tonight, my opinion is that GT5 is as good or better than any other racing game I've played, but comes with so many cars, courses and options that I will still be digging in a month. To me, that translates to a score well above what was given to GT5 Prologue at least. Anyone saying otherwise is simply looking for attention.

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ABUrabad
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 5:12:59 AM

from an XBOX fan boy view (which Im not)"there is nothing good about GT5"
thats why i dont have an xbox becuae for me GT5 has delivered and will deliver what every player need from a driving game of its genre 'REALITY' and there no match for GT5 in any way possible in other game
just for the recored in froza 3 when u ram a car's front shield into anything over there there rear bumper get a real damage which is to be considered so real in xbox fanboys criteria

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Snaaaake
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:38:35 AM

So true Ben, talk about professionals, those guys aren't, they're letting their personal feeling get into their job.
If a game comes out after 10 years, does that mean you should review it based the on the hype, budget and time? But not actually comparing it to other racing games?

In that case, won't Duke Nukem Forever get a lowly 1 out of 10 after 10 years of development?

"Gran Turismo 5 is a 10/10 simulator wrapped up in a 5/10 game" - IGN review.
Wow, I thought this game is suppose to be a simulator.
And if it's a simulator, doesn't that essentially makes it a game?

Another IGNorant review.

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JCARROLL
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:35:08 PM

Forza is only around an 8 for me. GT5 a 9.4

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:06:05 AM
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Ahhh, copying most of my iTunes library to my PS3 now so I can race with my music of choice.

Really, this game is great and I find that people are complaining only because of the hype. It's like when your friend keeps telling you this movie is the best movie in the world over and over then when you watch it you can't help but go "that was it?" Ben is right, this game is much better than anything we have seen so far and a couple poopy shadows shouldn't change that.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:39:43 AM

Wonder why the shadows are poopy. Then again the only problem I've ever noticed with PS3 is it has shadow troubles.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:04:47 AM

Not sure what went wrong but the shadows aren't the best in some places, and I stress some places. But they aren't any worse then they were in say Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank: ACIT. The best shadow work I have seen so far in a PS3 game is God of War III.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:39:51 AM

The shadows look like they do in just about every other game that actually bothers to do them. Again, this is not a flaw, or a failure of PD, despite what some reviewers may wish to say.

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:07:24 AM

Yes, GoW3's shadowing was top notch. Apparently, a Santa Monica programmer designed a custom shadowing program running on SPU's for that game. I don't know if it handles all or just some of the shadows, but the game does stand out as having awesome shadowing precision.

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:03:16 AM

I noticed some pretty awful shadows on the 06 Focus ST when the camera panned around before the race. Of course it doesnt matter once i'm in the race, but the jagged shadows kind of stabbed in the the eyes and really took away from the presentation.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:31:58 AM
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This is good news, as the reviews seem to be taking the mickey out of the finer details and blowing them out of proportion. Polyphony will fix this over time, but the name of GT has already been cut down.

As for the game itself, I await it with bated breath. Reading what I have about the game I get the feeling that it is almost a jack of all trades, master of none, but I'm sure that will change when I am able to play it. The biggest factor to GT is the simulation, and it seems as if that is near-perfection.

I hope that GT6 does release before the death of the PS3, and I hope that it Polyphony take the time to flesh out the elements that have been declaimed as lacking here, just so that there is nothing to complain about. It matters not whether they add more features, just bring those that are present up to scratch. I think this will be my final monologue on the game until my review.
Peace.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:38:33 AM

The reviews are largely unfair. There are flaws and some expectations will certainly go un-met. But then, expectations are our own desires for the game, and not the actual game.

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___________
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:14:19 AM
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GT6 most certainly will be out on the ps3.
1 the engine is already in place so it wont take anywhere near as long as GT5 did.
2 the ps3 aint going nowhere, the ps4 wont be out for more than likely another 3 years and im sure GT6 will be out by then.

as for GT5, sadly looks like IGNs review was spot on.
so disappointed, i was expecting perfection, this is GT the "real driving simulator" not to mention they have spent 5 freaking years making it!
really pissed at sony too, 50 bucks for the faceplate and it does not even clip on it just sits on top of the ps3 like a loose sheet of paper on a desk.
than 300 bucks for the signiature edition, yea it has a really nice black metal casing, the APEX book is really impressive has everything you need to know about cars, how there made, how they work, and how to get the best out of each car.
but 300 bucks!!!!!!???????
200 i could understand,230 ok, 250 mmmmmmmmmmmm maybe, but 300!
im really starting to get sick of sony milking the hell out of there games, and treating there loyal fans like bank machines!
first the GOW3 collection and now this.
whats next?
400 bucks for KZ3 helghast edition which comes with the game and a set of post cards?

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:25:06 AM

Dude, it's your own fault you spend so much money on things you don't feel are worth it.

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:27:00 AM

You didn't have to buy the Signature Edition... If all you wanted was the APEX mag, it was also in the limited edition, and I think that was 150 or thereabouts.

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___________
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 7:16:17 AM

and how was i suppose to know it would be crap?
which crystal ball are you using?

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:29:21 AM

You just had to look at the contents list...

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Bjorn77
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:15:07 AM
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I get some of the disappointment, I truly do.

Well, the good thing is, it drives like a charm. So technically the game is solid. Which in my opinion is the most important thing.

Graphics are good but not "amazing"

Damage.... If you have played Dirt 2, and have enjoyed the crashes and how your vehicle response to crashing in to a tree or a wall. Then my friend you will get disappointed. The first time I drove my car into the wall... Well if you drive a car into a wall it doesn't bounce back like a rubber ball. It's what they do in Dirt 2, your car spins and G forces will break it.

They also should fix the on-line, the lack of match-making is a serious bummer and really takes a lot of fun out of the experience. I like the fast paced match-making games.

I hope they fix those problems.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:37:14 AM

The thing is that in all previous GT games, there has been no damage, and they were well recieved. I couldn't care less about damage, that's not why I play GT. If I wnt crashes and Damage modeling, I go to Paradise City, or Seacrest County. Damage and crashes is *not* what GT5 (or any GT game) is about. Never has been, and never will be.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:03:08 AM

Didn't they toss in damage at the last minute anyway because "the kids" complained that "Drrr Forza is teh better!"?

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:11:55 AM

Yes, that was one of the things that slowed the development process.

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Bjorn77
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:20:56 AM

How can you simulate auto racing if a aspect of racing is neglected? If you crash into a wall their is a big change your car is total and you will not win the race. Now you bounce back and win anyway.

In my opinion that is the easy way out. If you push it to the limit then there are consequences. And you should pay for mistakes, that's what games make fun but additively frustrating.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:36:56 AM

That's fine Bjorn, they added damage for people with exactly your point of view. However GT has always been about making the physics of the car performance as accurate as possible and presenting the cars in a pristine manner so that the racing looks as gorgeous as it plays. That really hasn't changed. The addition of the damage modeling is in my opinion unnecessary, but it's done now.

But the point I am making is that damage modeling has never been a part of the GT game series, it's not what the games are about, it's at best a secondary feature.

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:43:32 PM

In a game like GT I would rather see car damage eliminated so the freed up processing and memory resources can go somewhere more meaningful to the nature of simulation GT racing. The director didn't originally want any kind of damage modeling because he stressed that in real world GT racing it's nearly un-heard of. Yamauchi even claimed that his pro racing friends questioned why he even was going to implement such a feature in the first place. But it would seem outside influence placed pressure on Yamauchi to make it happen. Once again, clashing values are at play which have obviously affected the critical response. In a game like Burnout crashing and car damage is important, it makes sense within the context of the game--it's not simulating sport-like driving.

So why allocate so many resources to a feature that goes against the nature of it's design? It'd be like a gamer complaining that in something like Uncharted they should just be able to leave the boundaries of the level and go climb a mountain off in the horizon somewhere. It'd be nice to be able to do something like that lol but by no means would I want the game delayed and resources exhausted in order to make it happen.

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:55:57 PM

and something I wanted to add. At last year's E3 Forza 3 presentation I thought it was pretty dang ridiculous that the highlight of the live Forza 3 demonstration ended with the player intentionally flipping the car upside down.......

uh, yeah, that's why we play these games.

It'd be just as fitting as EA closing their Madden '12 reveal trailer with Tom Brady being punched in the face by Payton Manning... it'd be kind of funny to watch... but entirely out of place and incredibly unlikely..

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:03:51 PM

and because I don't think of everything at once, I have another thing to add. I would like to see minor car damage. I would expect that. While GT5 is a simulator we aren't all pro drivers. So having damage modeling for fender benders and the bumps and bruises that come with racing makes sense. But having full-on realistic damage modeling with smashed up hoods, broken glass and doors bust'n off just isn't necessary and I would rather leave that to games like Motorstorm and Burnout.

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PharaohJR
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:28:33 AM
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i purchased GT5 yesterday round 6pm..... at bout 7pm inserted it installed it took 20 minutes. at the time i type this i just logged of the ps3 to finally share my perspective & also to see what others think bout GT.

IM A 22 year old man.... if it matters to the readers im a color of black. i have a passion for cars when i seen a rally car in jamaica at the age of 6 i followed extraordinary cars since whether muscle exotic or tuner.

i understood car physics at the age of 10 i could tell older people the art of driving..... before i knew drifting existed i always did it with remote controll or toy car.

i have played a wide variety of automotive games ranging from need for speeds, forzas,codemasters touring cars (cant remember the name of the previous ones they offered before GRID)its several other racing games & series i have played. i have never contributed so much time into something untill GT was released & since part 1 the amount of time i put into this series is ridiculous.

GT5...... is a must have if you like or love to play virtual reality race car simulators. since GT it has become my ritual to watch all of the intros. the way POLYHONY captured automotive culture in gt5 is amazing & the tune fits the intro video. i observed the difference from the standard & premium cars & honestly i see why polyphony did this. the amount of emphasis this studio puts in there work is crazy & to want all 1000 cars premium..... you would be asking for a game thats worth more then 60 dollars. really i believe the amount the time work & quality of this game deserves more then 60 dollars.

when i went online i wasnt expecting what i would get my self into...... i entered the racetrack Apricot Hill with 9 other drivers at the time. the host didnt begin the race so we all ran laps. i was suprised to hear the quality & smoothness of the others but what shocked me was the major improvement of the gameplay online. i rarely seen any form of lag & cars jumping all threw the course & the reason why i was so intrigued by this is, i thought i was almost playing offline thats how smooth it was to me.

i could write a book on how much i have enjoyed GT5 in the short amount of time i played it. if you you dont stand, understand or overstand car physics, if you dont know the difference of a simulator or arcade, if you dont have a mind personality or identity of your own this game is not for you..... this game is for the grown folks or mature folks.

this game isnt perfect & i have never came across something especially technology that is perfect. however this game isnt a standard but i gurantee its setting standards. my opinion from what i experience & my standings of automotive knowledge..... i give gt5 a 9.999999999 cant give it a 10 cause with everything theres always improvement.

i SALUTE all the folks that contributed making & supporting this game cause its outstanding.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:38:11 AM

I really enjoyed reading that.. It seems you have a firm grasp on the idea of GT! It's also evident that you have a passion that it sometimes takes to really appreciate a project such as this! A game of this magnitude and depth, takes having a grasp on the idustry to explore it from one end to another!

You should hit up the forums also!

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Kiryu
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 7:00:49 AM

PharoahJR Thank You Very Much.Gran Turismo 5 is going into my ps3 collection

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sirbob6
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:47:39 AM

That was so beautiful. *wipes tear* You have succeed in explaining everything that I love about the game in a fluent fashion that I could never do.

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ABUrabad
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 5:19:34 AM
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there is one single question i REALLY NEED AN ANSWER ,(since I need another week to get my copy of my GT5,I know I know I'v got a lot of exams next couple of weeks )the question is
what will happen with cars I bought at GT5 prolouge

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JackC8
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 7:21:26 AM

I don't think you can do anything with them. Only cars from the PSP version can be imported.

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ABUrabad
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:29:02 AM

I had seen at a web-page I dont remember exactly were that these cars will be transfered to GT5 to the arcade mode or to your career ,

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JackC8
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 7:18:49 AM
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Glad to hear that they're apparently planning a lot of updates in the future. I played it for several hours last night and the impression I got was that it's an updated version of GT4. I would have been blown away by it three years ago. Graphics are gorgeous, best I've ever seen in a racing game. The environments, especially on city courses, are just spectacular. The standard cars look pretty good, well...except for the round wheel wells which are now hexagonal. I haven't purchased a premium car yet. Unfortunately the shadows that the cars make on the ground have a saw-toothed edge that shimmers. That's not good.

The force feedback through the steering wheel is awful. You get torque when going around a corner, and that's about it. You can drive off the track and back on, or even hit a wall, and feel nothing. And hitting a wall sounds like you whacked a mattress with a baseball bat. Driving over curbs not only produces no force feedback, but often no sound either.

Player-created soundtracks? Yeah, you can use ONE of your own songs. As far as the cars, only the premium cars are available in the dealerships. Imagine my surprise at going to the Ford dealership - in a game with over 1,000 cars - and finding a selection of 8 cars, 4 of which are Nascar. The other 800 cars are apparently only available in the used car lot, and you can only choose from a selection of 30 at a time. So if there's a car you're particularly interested in, well, 800/30 = check back 26 times and see if it shows up. And no hood cam or cockpit view with the standard cars. The front bumper cam gives you little idea of where your car actually is. Try going between two other cars and you'll probably just run into one of them. Judging how far you are from the edge of the track is a guess at best. The roof cam is too high up and doesn't feel like you're driving the car.

Online; all I got was a message saying the servers were down for maintenance.

I'm sure I'll have many evenings of fun with it, as there seems to be a ton of stuff to do. And then another ton after you've finished the first one. But jeez...as low as I kept my expectation, believing none of the hype, it's still half a generation behind the other racing games I've played recently. I can't help thinking that if Sony gave all the time and money to Codemasters or Slightly Mad instead of PD, they could have made a driving sim that would have absolutely destroyed this one.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:33:14 PM

Jack,

You can create your own sound track, simply set up a playlist in your music folder and select that as the source for your custom soundtrack. You can regroup your music when selecting and set it up too shuffle through the tracks, and select whether you're using a folder or a playlist. There is a lot of flexibility, you just have to get to grips with using it.

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ABUrabad
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:30:25 AM
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I had seen at a web-page I dont remember exactly were that these cars will be transfered to GT5 to the arcade mode or to your career ,

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tes37
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:12:19 AM
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I was hoping to hear some news like this from PD. I'm loving the game so far and look forward to anything they want to add. It's been more than five years since I played a GT game and I felt right at home with GT5.

All the complaining that was going on before I got my copy had me a little nervous. Since playing it, I'm satisfied with my purchase. The install wasn't as long as people are saying. Jawknee's install time seems to be about the same as mine and the loading only looks long because you see a progress bar.

You can see out of your windshield in every car, which is my favorite view. The ghost-like instrumentation is the only thing I want to see when I race. Being able to see the dash and steering wheel is a distraction to me, although it does look good.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:30:17 AM

Yea once you start trying out the standard cars you will find you cannot see over the dash outside the windshield which is a letdown considering the tracks with weather changes are so cool.

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tes37
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:26:08 PM

I guess I have been using the premium cars. Won a lot of the first races with the Lamborghini. It was funny, the car is way too fast for those tracks

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BikerSaint
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:34:54 PM

tes,
<<<You can see out of your windshield in every car, which is my favorite view.>>>

Ok, now that you've cleared up, that was all I wanted, to be able drive, looking out from inside all the cars.

When I finally get the game, I'm going to be one damned happy Winnebago.

Jawknee,
Oops looks like I didn't see your post before I posted to tes.

So are you saying that you can't really see to drive right, from that inside view???

If so I hope PD adds a few big fat Yellow Pages directories for me to sit on, at least that way I can see over the dash.

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tes37
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 12:09:59 PM

What I'm calling a windshield view, may be actually a different view. It has a rear-view mirror at the top of the screen and the speedometer at the bottom, whether I'm using standard or premium cars.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:33:32 AM
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A little off topic, but... Happy thanksgiving everyone. It's a good day for some GT5...

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sirbob6
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:53:14 AM

Happy Thanksgiving to you too. I am about 10 minutes from entering the car to drive to my Grandparents to celebrate and enter a food based coma followed by playing GT5 with the family.

Hope everyone will have as much fun I will.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:42:07 PM

Happy Gobbler to all!

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Temjin001
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 8:59:37 PM
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Man, such negativity encircling GT5 and Sony right now.
Looking at the current Kotaku feed. I read 1 positive and 1 neutral... all the rest negative =/

Each of the PS3 related headlines:

-The PS2's Champion Isn't So Sure ABout The PS3

-The Slowest GT5 Race You'll Ever See

-GT5 races out in Japan

-Will GT6 Be on the PS3 Or PS4?

-GT5 Online Woes Screw Up Your Singleplayer Games, Too

-Playstation Boss To Become Sony President?

-EA Says GT5 Is "Sterile"; Codemasters Says It's "Boring"

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:28:40 PM

It's been this way since launch day of the PS3, and I'm awfully tired of the witch hunt. As for EA and Codemasters, you can hardly expect them to praise a game that competes with their own franchises. Unlike some people who have class and don't trash talk their competition, EA and Codemasters have no class.

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:09:57 PM

The slowest GT race ever was funny as crap though. I almost bought a Fiat 500 after watching that. My dad was behind me coaxing me into it, but i bought a Yaris instead for the Yaris/Vitz race.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:19:38 PM

But Bandit, this has always been the way in GT5, you have always had races with very underpowered cars. Look at the Top Gear event for example with the VW mini-bus. Good God, if these are reasons to criticize a game, then EA and Codemasters better look out because I can easily eviscerate both of their products based on this level of criticism.

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PharaohJR
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 2:55:31 PM
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dunno how to do a direct reply.

@bigrailer19 preciate it man. i will get involved in the forums eventually at this time im stuck on gt5 i feel like im 14 again.

@kiryu no problem. hope ya enjoy it to man.

@sirbob6 preciate it man. glad to know my perspective represented ya feelings towards gt5.

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CaptainWinkie
Saturday, November 27, 2010 @ 3:08:21 PM
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There will be no GT6 Ever!!!! This is the last one!!! How do I know this and you don't?

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