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GT5 Online Servers Struggle, Update Coming Soon

So Gran Turismo 5 doesn't have enough to offer offline; everyone has to go and clog up the online servers immediately?

Well, all that traffic is causing problems for the GT5 servers. Sony just made mention of the congestion and what you can do to combat any issues; Eurogamer posted the notice and a few additional comments Sony made within the in-game GT5 news feed. While they work on things, they ask you to do the following:

"Because GT5 performs online access not only when participating in online races and using community features, but also when starting the game and during the various screen displays in GT Mode, unfortunately this online congestion is also affecting standard gameplay.

Currently we are simultaneously working on several different solutions to improve the network status and alleviate the network congestion as soon as possible. We are expecting to be able to provide a proper online service again soon. We sincerely apologise to our customers for the inconvenience."

In addition, we have learned they'll be providing us with the first patch on Saturday. GT creator and Polyphony Digital boss Kazunori Yamauchi told Eurogamer that they've received quite a few demands and suggestions for online fixes, and the developers will waste no time in responding:

"We received a lot of demands for having more regulations placed on the online play. We're going to perform an update on the 27th that will include things like max power restrictions and weight restrictions.

It's like a living creature, dynamically growing as we speak."

This update will "refine the usability of the game to make it a better experience," which is really what we want from all big patches, right? Yamauchi adds that it'll be "hard to find an end to the process," what with GT5 being so freakin' big and so freakin' popular. So for the time being, or at least until the weekend, maybe you should just focus on offline stuff...you know, there's quite a bit to do.

Related Game(s): Gran Turismo 5

Tags: gran turismo 5, gt5, gt5 patch, gt5 online

11/25/2010 10:51:20 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (94 posts)

Cavan1
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:05:23 AM
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ben
whens the review dropping?

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swapnilgyani
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:44:40 PM

Yeah, looking forward to Ben's review. Not that it matters in terms of purchase (this is the FIRST game in my life that I've bought on release midnight), but it's always good to read reviews here.

But hey, no rush. I think most of us here would want Ben to play the game deep enough to be able to give a proper review. I'd say, even wait for the online patch that drops this saturday...

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JustinDaRuler
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:07:11 AM
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Just like Prologue

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Highlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:12:00 PM

Except it has more cars, HD cars, HD car interiors, crash damage modeling, weather, day/night cycles, more tracks, better sound and visuals, customization of cars and tuning of cars, Karts, the Top Gear track, custom course creation and other features I'm certain I forgot to mention.

Yes, apart from all those things, it's "just like Prologue"...whatever.

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:24:04 AM

Not much to add after that.

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NissanFlyboy
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 7:59:31 PM

You forgot NASCAR.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:09:06 AM
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I dint have any intentions playing online for a little while anyways... I gotta get my Race skills stringer still. I also just bought my first premium car, I needed something with all wheel drive! ;) anyways I'm still upgrading it and can't seem to care to much bout taking it online yet!

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big6
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:12:21 AM
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Prologue had a very weak Online structure. It didn't have host migration so, if you're beating someone, and he is the Host, most of the time, he'll just disconnect (sore losers), and everyone gets kicked out of the race.

I do, sincerely, hope they have fixed this major online flaw.

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booze925
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:20:02 AM
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looks like even the almighty gran turismo 5 has been infected with modern warfare-itis.
symtoms include the sheep all logging on at once, but the online servers being broken on day 1.
FACE

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:42:08 AM

Looks like you have been infected with that nasty virus that's been going around that turns Call of Duty fanboy's into trolls. Might want to get some ointment for that.

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Underdog15
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:16:45 PM

Ointment can only soothe those diseases, Jawk. Eventually the disease overtakes the mind and turns you into a steeming pile of zombie gook.

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booze925
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:34:23 PM

but am i right? yes i am.
have a happy thanksgiving.

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shadowpal2
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:13:27 PM

Booze..."FACE" is about to be trademarked by Facebook! O_O

Happy Thanksgiving.

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dkmrules
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:17:40 PM

@booze

http://captionsearch.com/pix/pijobf4e8h.jpg

^^^^^^^
This

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 5:38:00 PM

"but am I right?"

Yeeea, I'm gonna go with nuooooo.

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Alienange
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 6:37:51 PM

booze925 - You won't get any love around here for pointing out the obvious.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 7:30:27 PM

@jawknee, why do u even care what he thinks, it's his own opinion. If u don't like it, u can screw it. I mean move along.

Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 11/25/2010 7:32:05 PM

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 8:08:41 PM

Because i find it funny, thanks though mom.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:45:44 PM

Strike one, nice swing by the way.

Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 11/25/2010 11:52:26 PM

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aaronisbla
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 12:45:51 AM

if booze can share his opinion, then jawk can voice his displeasure in it, because its jawks opinion.

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Jawknee
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 2:07:54 AM

@dkmrules

HAHAHAHAHAHA! that was freaking great! Hahahahaha!

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:25:30 AM

Curious booze, what games do you play?

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SmokeyPSD
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:24:56 AM
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who goes straight online with GT anyway? pfft

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:46:28 AM

People who played the crap out of GTPSP and want to see if their 'skilz r mad'?

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Alienange
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 6:38:53 PM

Way to read the article.

"Because GT5 performs online access not only when participating in online races..."

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CH1N00K
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:31:15 AM
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This is part of the reason that online play should be restricted in games. Make people actually play the game before hopping online..once you reach a certain level (or unlock certain amount of cars)...then you unlock the online accessibility. I know a lot of COD fans would hate this idea, but this is just my opinion on the whole online community

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SmokeyPSD
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:34:54 AM

I've thought this myself. I really think it should be implemented personally.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:38:37 AM

They wouldn't be able to contain the twitchiness within. It's like crack and Tyrone Biggums. ;)

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:49:31 AM

But why? Early on in the game, many of these people will likely only have very poor cars, and if they feel that that is good enough for them, then why not let them go it. I understand that some people will be asking for these people to play the single player to improve their racing skills, but one should be able to do the same in the online segment, provided you aren't constantly playing against peoplw that are using it as little more than an arcade game and crashing into you at every opportunity.
Peace.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:35:33 AM
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I haven't even attempted to play online yet. Been having too much fun in career mode.

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:26:41 AM

Indeed. Between the Mustang and the Camaro I just bought, I am more then happy!

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:42:36 AM
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Were they not expecting that level of popularity? Were they just not prepared. This actually makes me very interested in finding out the sales figures.

And as I said, it's good that they will be patching it to try to iron out all of the peculiar little ticks that reviewers have picked up on... I get it today... Not for about another twelve hours though. Can't wait.
Peace.

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SmokeyPSD
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:17:29 PM

I think they were just not expecting so many to jump straight online... To be honest, I didn't even expect this. I wasn't going to go online for at least 4 days or so.

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Xzer0
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:54:02 AM
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I tried to play online, but when I tried to connect PS3 froze and second time when I just entered online lobby it froze again. This problem reminded me a PS3 browser froze problems. Hope this update will help me.

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Cavan1
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:04:44 PM
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the only thing thats annoying me with the game is that i cant for the life of me buy a bloody pick up truck!!, theres none in the prem cars, and ive not seen one yet in the used car sales.....

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Lawless SXE
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:09:20 PM

GT never has been big on utes though, has it?

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big6
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:19:37 PM

Hahahaha!
I'm guessing you have NEVER played a Gran Turismo game, prior to GT5?

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Cavan1
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:02:44 PM

i played GT4 and GT2, but i was younger then so didnt really go through the game, just sorta raced with my mates, i had prologue and completed that, had every car, including the f1 car. i dont like that theres 800 standard cars, but you cant buy the ones you want, just the ones that happen to be in the used car sale ( which is like 20 and always full of really cheap japanese cars ) bar that am in love with the game, got a 62 buick that has 620 bhp lol

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dkmrules
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:19:18 PM

Probably handles like a drunk rhinoceros though

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Highlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:06:30 PM

It's always been that way though dude, you always had to build your garage gradually and not all the cars are available to purchase right away. In GT4, there were certain cars that were only available on specific days, the others were available more or less on a random basis.

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JPHarvey
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:48:22 PM
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I just hope they include some more wheel support soon. This is lame that they have a list of about 8 wheels in their config options and it doesn't work at all with a 1 year old Fanatec GT3RS that I got...

This wheel workes perfectly in Prologue, has great support in all Codemasters racing games (Dirt 2, F1 2010) but GT5 is totally ignoring it.

It is not a racing simulator for me if I have to use a Dualshock to play. Tried one race yesterday and shelved my collector's edition until they figure out how to support racers. I can wait another year or two I guess. 100$ for 1 race. Wouldn't get many stars in my review.

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FatherSun
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:52:49 PM
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Im am loving this game. Been playing all night. Woke up and jumped right back in. Haven't taken her online yet but I think at startup it attempts to log in. Just went on for a few minutes just to check it out. Congestion indeed.

Those who criticize seem to be those who do not have the skill or patience to play this SIM. You simply can not play this the way you play Burnout or any other arcade racer. I observed this with a few people already. 2 out of 5 could not handle the controls and automatically the game "SUCKS". The car lovers are really feeling GT5. 2 of them are going to purchase a PS3 just for this alone. GTTV the Lounge and the Community has them excited. Wait till they get into the other features the PS3 is capable of.

P.S. For those who celebrate... Happy Thanksgiving. For those who don't Happy GT5 day!

P.S.S. For those who don't like GT... Find something to be happy about. Stop hating.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 12:55:00 PM

Acardey racers have never appealed to me. There is no depth what so ever. I think we are starting to see that PS3 owners and GT fans are grown ups while the rest are children looking for their next twitchy fix.

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STAY3R
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:36:16 PM
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eurogamer posted an awesum detailed review of gt5 and gave it 9, i really liked their las line it was something like this ''it's equally a game that heads off in unexpected and exciting directions, makes a few notable improvements, and overflows with love – for cars, for games technology and for its own mad pursuit. It's good that Gran Turismo's been away so long, because it's all the better to have it back''
and the guy who wrote the ign review, his facebook profile info. says he loves playing ''halo'' most, lol, explains evrything

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Cavan1
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:45:12 PM

i also love how theyve just done there shortlist for GOY, and no mention of gt5 anywhere? like did they do the shortlist before it came out?. Best graphics, no GT5, no heavy rain?? i ant seen to better graphics for realism ever in games. i mean they put 4 multiplat games, good games as they are, they dont compare to the exclusive games that the ps3 has.

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Highlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:08:06 PM

If the IGN reviewer is a shooter fan then why in hell is he reviewing GT5?

Too many people criticizing the game have *no* idea what the game is, or how ridiculous their complaints are.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:26:32 PM

Unbelievable.

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:29:10 AM

I read that bit of detail concerning the IGN author on GT Planet.

I would sure like to see what a hardcore GT fan would have to say about Halo.

I know what this one thinks about it..

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FM23
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 1:50:36 PM
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Wow...thats annoying and I don't even own it yet...lol.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 4:02:36 PM

Ur annoying... ;)

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tlpn99
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 2:13:10 PM
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I jumped online but later on in the evening as was playing with some friends later on. I started on single player.

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wakkaoaka
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 3:45:23 PM
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I feel their pain, server bandwidth... i cant imagine how many powerful servers they would need to support gt5. And i just thought it was my shitty new zealand internet, nice to know it wasnt :) that means the problem CAN be resolved :p

btw... cape ring periphery is the shit! <3

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Palmetto
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 4:59:43 PM
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Give them a chance to actually play the game. I would prefer an in depth review from someone who has actually played the game as oppossed to a half baked review pushed out to meet a real or imagined deadline. Just my humble opinion.

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ABUrabad
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 5:19:51 PM
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IMO, it’s the best or one of the best games available of it's genre , and yes it is generally at the top end of what is achievable this gen, No game is ever going to be perfect. surely GT5 game should be given a top mark .

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SILVERAMMO
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 6:39:38 PM
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i dont mind i havent even touched the online lol the singleplares too fun

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:51:06 PM

Same.

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Alienange
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 6:44:51 PM
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A poor design choice if ever thee was one. They should have already known that there would be tons of traffic just for the online play. Why would they code in internet access during the singleplayer game??? It loads down the servers that much more and for no good reason.

They'd better patch this nonsense quick.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:50:43 PM

I have a feeling you would be more forgiving if this was a Call of Duty.

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Qubex
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 12:07:34 AM

Alienange is right though, to some extent!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:31:36 AM

I happen to like that it automatically tracks your friends progress. The message board feature is pretty cool.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 7:22:15 PM
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No sh!t, I new this was going to be a problem when the first batch of people have bought this game.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:44:07 PM

What does the "first batch of people" have to do with it?

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:49:00 PM

The first people who waited in line really early to wait for the stores to open to get the game.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 7:51:30 PM
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By the time I get this game I'll have to wait for another 1 hour for the install and the latest patch.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:34:09 PM

The install wasn't an hour for me. I have a hard time believing it takes an hour to install the game. When I popped in the game it told me it would take 30 minutes, I timed it and it clocked in about 25 minutes. Now depending on the type of HDD people are using it could lengthen or shorten the amount of time it takes but it only took me 25 minutes with the standard 2.5 SATA 5400rpm HDD. Same specs as the ones Sony ships with every PS3. only difference is it a 500gb.

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Highlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:04:03 PM

It takes 25-30 minutes to install. My HDD had some corruption and so I had to cancel the install, fix the corruption and then restart, but including the download of the 1.01 update and the file system fix it still took no more than an hour.

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YashaZz
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:18:27 PM
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Can you play "2 player Mode" without the Online play? Just on one console.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:21:58 PM

How times have changed eh?
The good ol' days where everyone enjoys co-op are gone.

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jlch777
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:34:36 PM

Yes you can!

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 9:42:27 PM

I'm pretty sure there is 2 player on the game in the arcade mode at least. Not sure its co op but im pretty sure 2 people can play at the same time on one console.

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Highlander
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 10:02:12 PM

You can play 2-player split screen in arcade mode.

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Borderline
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:27:52 PM
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Loving the game and haven't tried online yet, having too much of a blast with single (and skills not nearly sharp enough yet). Install and patch took about 55 minutes for me...seemed like the intall froze a few times but I just let it run and all was good. Definately happy with my Day 1 purchase :-)

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AntDC
Thursday, November 25, 2010 @ 11:58:23 PM
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Hey guys in terms of the update, I'm kinda confused as to why it says they are adding damage to arcade mode, as I'm sure it is already in it? Then I read this:

"The physical damage modeling in GT5 is released from currently Level 20"

Does this mean we haven't been experiencing "actual damage"? We've just been getting the dumbed down version cause we're not skilled enough (yet?). Is anyone over level 20 and can they confirm this? Even if it isn't it wouldn't bother me, I play not to crash, but it'd be a good thing to throw in the face of those idiot reviewers who played the game for a few hours and had the nerve to release a review based on that with supposedly "fully-formed and accurate opinions".

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AntDC
Saturday, November 27, 2010 @ 8:44:28 PM

Annnnnd this proves that advanced damage is implemented at a later level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGWih-RTbXQ&feature=player_embedded

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___________
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 1:48:50 AM
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*bangs head against wall*
god dam it sony, why cant you ever release a game and have a smooth release?
resistance 2 released and had so many bugs every game i entered it froze, or enemies got caught in walls.
KZ2 released and had so many bugs every game i entered either kicked me out with the 5021 error, or had ridiculous lag!
MAG released and had so many bugs every game i entered froze on me, or plain out kicked me out.
why cant sony actually get things right for a change?
just goes to show how f*cking god dam unorganized they are!
i dont see halo or ME having these problems.
nor do i see mario kart.
come on sony, just once can we have a game working perfectly from the get go?
just once?
pleeeeeeeeeeeeease?

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:32:50 AM

Just once, I would like to see you use capital letters.

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bigrailer19
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:46:39 AM

And proper organization.

Once again your freaking out. Maybe you should stop playing games... They all seem to frustrate you. The only game I've ever seen you say anything good about was AC and then ten minutes later you were frustrated at it... I dont think this is a healthy hobby for you!

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THEVERDIN
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 3:49:07 AM
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Is anybody having freezing issues? It's been happening on some ameture races on me . Mine has frozen a least 4 times.

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Highlander
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 4:19:17 AM

It's the network servers. The darned game does some kind of online interaction at many points during play. The servers are down and it causes the game to stop. Simply sign out of PSN and don't let the game sign you back in, and you should be fine. They ought to have the servers back up soon.

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THEVERDIN
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 4:24:49 AM
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I wasn't signed in to the network, but last night I was and didn't have any problems like this. Makes no sense to me. What do you think.

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Highlander
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 4:35:21 AM
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A quick note since I am getting deeper into the game now. I have completed the beginner events (all gold) and the B License and done a fair bit of tuning and customizing. So far I'm seeing nothing to complain about except for the occasionally over zealous AI driver who pushes the tail of my car out and won't back off.

I haven't taken it online yet, but I did note that after I signed out of PSN to play GT5 tonight (remember the servers are down for emergency maintenance), I noted that the game plays a bit better with less time taken transitioning between many of the menus and into a race.

Anyway, I've experienced no framerate slowdowns, and no tearing at all. I'm playing on a 1080p screen, and have seen no issues.

Standard cars are a little more restrictive than premiums but since the restrictions on their really have no impact on their performance characteristics it doesn't matter at all. I haven't tried the weather effects yet, and I'm quite OK with that.

People have said this is just like GT4, it's not, it's better. People have said this is like Prologue, it's not, it's light years better. If you take all the good things from GT4 and GT5 Prologue and bring them together in one game, then add some polish and a few new features - course creation - then you get what we have here GT5. It's not perfect, but it is very, very, *very* good.

I think that if some of the people complaining would relax and play it a bit more without looking for fault, they might find that under all the petty criticism is a fantastic driving sim/racing game.

Regarding the one review from IGN (I haven't seen the rest). Either the reviewer was not working with a final copy of the game, or he only just got it (remember a manufacturing delay nearly pushed the game back to December). If he was working with a pre-production copy, there are things that may be better and different in the retail copy compared to his. If he was working with a release copy, then he could not have spent long with it. It's only after about 12-15 hours of play that I've got where I am with the game, and I've barely scratched the surface. You really can't review this game after a short play. You need to spend some time getting the licenses an working through the events.

Anyway, I just want to say to everyone who's still wondering about this. GT5 is at very least a 9/10 game. It's not in any way a bad game. The worst issue it has - other than the online issue that is being fixed - is occasionally annoying AI drivers. Apart from that, this game is exactly - and I really mean EXACTLY - what it should be. Gran Turismo for the PS3. If you were expecting something other than what GT already was, then you were really looking for a different game. GT is about the actual driving, not the environment or the damage or anything else. It's about the performance of the machine and how fast you can get it around the circuit.

So, if you're still on the fence, don't be, and don't be worried about the game. It's not disappointing, it's not a let down, but then neither is it the key to world peace, or the universal solution. It's Gran Turismo on the PS3. Think about that for a moment. Take GT4 make it bigger and better, add some features, more cars and make it properly HD. That's about what any GT fan wants from a GT game on the PS3, well, that's what this delivers.

Hmm... that was supposed to be quick. Oh well...

This is the Gran Turismo game you've been looking for...

Last edited by Highlander on 11/26/2010 4:36:59 AM

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Gordo
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 5:03:07 AM

Definately a 9/10 in my opinion. Agree that I've been bumped off the track a lot of times by the AI cars. They alway tend to rear end you if you cut them off to soon.

My biggest disappointment is the lack of cockpit view for the standard cars. I've got a wheel and I can't play the game in any other view. It's too arcady otherwise.

In my opinion:

Wheel + GT5 + Cockpit view = the best ever.

Wheel + GT5 + car view = too arcady.

Controller + GT5 = stick with Dirt2, Forza or NFS.

People complaining about the 1 hour install time? Jeez, just start the install, crack open a bottle of wine, cook dinner, speak to your wife, put the dishes in the dishwasher.
Install complete!

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maxpontiac
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 8:36:28 AM

Well said Highlander.

My ONLY disappointments are the fact that I can't Race Modify all the Premiums nor put wheels on the standards and some jaggies.

Outside of that, a 9.4 score for me, with a 1/2 point deduction in the aforementioned and some a 10th of point on the jaggy issues on the shadows.

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THEVERDIN
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 4:42:08 AM
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I agree it's a great game, but the freezing is is an issue if you can't complete a series of races. I'm in the ameture races now and this is where it's freezing. Didn't have it with the beginners.

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JackC8
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 6:59:14 AM
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I've only tried online once. After waiting in somebody's lobby for 5 minutes for them to complete the race they were currently running, the next race finally started and...only half the cars started moving. The rest of us had to wait five seconds or so. And it ain't lag caused by my internet connection because it's 25 Mbps and I've never had any problem with any online game before.

Oh, but it gets better. The guy hosting the race wanted to change the number of laps, but he apparently couldn't do that because one of the players entered the race too soon, so halfway through the first lap he announced that he was booting everyone out, and then I got a "connection with server was lost" message.

What a fun online experience!

I don't know if there's any way of entering a race that's about to start so you don't have to wait around, and I'm sick of pouring through menus and sub-menus trying to locate stuff that should be front-and-center. I'll just stick with the offline for now.

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Highlander
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 11:24:03 AM

Jack, it's gonna be patchy until the a) get more sever capacity, and b) patch out some of the nonsense 'call home' functionality that the game has when transitioning between windows. But once you take the PS3 off-line, things get better.

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JackC8
Saturday, November 27, 2010 @ 8:03:20 AM

Yeah, the offline seems to be working just fine. My only complaint would be that it gives me about 3 dialogue boxes telling me the servers are down before I can get to the "GT Life" menu. Once would be quite sufficient :)

Been having a great time with it though (despite all my complaining). Gran Turismo games are set up in such a way that they're just soooooo addictive lol.

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Highlander
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 1:58:42 PM
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Here's a quote from a GT5 review that I think sums up what is actually wrong with many of the reviews of this game.

"Gran Turismo 5 is an extremely deep and satisfying game, held back slightly by some poor design choices. Perhaps if the game hadn't been in development for so long and so eagerly anticipated certain issues could be overlooked, but the developers have always set such a high standard that any flaws - from occasional graphical glitches, to frustrating menu navigation - are much more glaring than in other racing simulations. "

The gist of this is that because the developer took a long time with this version, and because previous GT games have been so good, we are going to hold this one to a higher standard. Therefore despite this being an excellent game we'll give it a score that is merely good, or perhaps very good, because, you know, we like to punish a game for taking too long or having a great pedigree.

There also seems to be a bit of a case of not actually playing deeply into the game, and reviewing it based on some quick play time and the expectations of it based on previous GT games. You can't do that IMHO, you just can't.

This same review contained this rather odd comment; "Many of the traditional race courses such as the F1 Monaco circuit and some of the countryside areas are quite barren,"

Monaco is Barren? What did the reviewer want, spectators littering the course? It's an F1 course, it looks just like the real f1 course, I've watched dozens of races over that course. It looks like the real thing. What are Polyphony supposed to do? Spice it up some with curbside food vendors that the driver can stop and grab a burger from?

The reviewer says that the countryside courses are quite barren too, this has to be a reference to the Top Gear Track. The thing is, the Top Gear track looks exactly like it does in the game. It's an old airstrip, the land is flat and open, and there's not a lot around the actual course. Once again, I have to wonder what this person expected? The Polyphony guys went to the real world locations and took pictures, ground surveys, and all sorts of other metrics to fully model the environment. When you race on Laguna Seca in this game, you are racing on Laguna Seca. When you race that 13 mile long Nordschleife in Germany or the other endurance track in France, you are driving an exact replica of the real course. If you went to the course and looked at it from the driver's eye view in reality, it would look the same.

I think that there is a major disconnect going on between gamers/reviewers who think that GT5 should be something it is not, and people who want GT5 to be what it is - a driving/racing simulator that let's you drive realistically modeled cars around real circuits with driving physics that are truly accurate. GT5 is not an arcade racer, and is not designed to be an arcade racer. Real racing tracks are fairly barren, boring places - unless you're a racing fan or driver of course.

Seriously though, I remember playing a game back in 1984 called REVS. It was Formula 3000 racer on an old 8-bit home computer that was popular in the UK. The guy that programmed it was Geoff Crammond, you may know his name from the F1 Grand Prix simulator games on the PC (and other simulator games). REVS was very limited in it's graphics because it was on an old 8-bit computer with a 2MHz processsor and 32KB of memory for graphics and game code. However, it taught me something that holds true today with GT5 more than ever. My friends hated the game. Why? Because it was boring, because you couldn't see the course, because it was hard...Well, the thing is, the game was a simulation. The car physics were fairly accurate (considering the computing power, they were awesome), the graphics were realistic (as far as possible with the resolution) you could only see the course as the driver would in reality. This meant that there was a small amount of track visible ahead and a lot of sky. You actually had to learn the courses, every undulation of them was modeled. It was a superb game/simulator at the time.

But it taught me the difference between an arcade racer and a racing simulator, and the difference between someone who likes the racing simulator kind of game, and someone who prefers the arcade racers.

GT5 is a racing simulator. The graphics are very accurate, the driving, car performance, car physics and track layout are all as real as you are going to get in any racer available. They are not augmented for game purposes, they are not treated to a veneer of arcade 'fun' or distraction.

I honestly think that a lot of reviewers are missing the point of the game completely. They are evaluating it in comparison to racers that lean heavily towards the arcade style of racing. Even other supposed racing simulators make concessions to the video game feel adding certain arcade style elements. GT5 does not do this, and so it feels bare, sparse or barren to those expecting a video game/arcade veneer to have been applied.

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BikerSaint
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 4:38:24 PM
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Just an FYI,
Kotaku has a nice little clip & pictorial on GT's aging over the years....

Gran Turismo's Pursuit Of Visual Perfection, One Game At A Time

http://kotaku.com/5699530/gran-turismos-pursuit-of-visual-perfection-one-game-at-a-time?utm_source=Kotaku+Newsletter&utm_campaign=ac067cb9a5-UA-142218-8&utm_medium=email

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StangMan80
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 6:45:55 PM
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I GOT MY COLLECTOR'S EDITION TODAY! :D
I was so excited couldn't stop smiling. I watched the intro video as soon as it got to the cars my jaw hit the floor, by the end of it I had to wipe off my DS3, because it was covered in droll and I had to pick up my jaw from my lap. :D
I just finished my first race and was wondering how to download the 8gig install. Nothing came up to do it and I can't find anything. I'll get my 6 DLC cars then hopefully somebody has an answer for me in not to long. I'm bringing my PS3 to my cousins and we'll be playing it all night on a 60".

Please somebody, please reply.

The long, long wait is over, and that first race was worth it :D

See you all on the track :D

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Highlander
Friday, November 26, 2010 @ 10:23:57 PM

The install is performed from the disk, it should prompt each time you start the game. But if not you can manually do it from the settings menu. There is an option in the last group of settings that let's you do the install. The thing is, I think it may not prompt you if there is not enough HDD space, or if you already declined it. So you may have to check you have the space and do it manually.

The CE cars are obtained with a downloadable code that is on a small sheet that is inside the packaging. It has a GT5 logo on one side, and the download code is on the other, under a sticky label that you pull off.

When you start the game, you might want to consider signing off PSN before playing for the next couple of days, there have been some server issues with the game, and this interferes with the game's operation even when you are not racing online. The easiest thing is to simply sign off PSN and then everything is fine.

Have fun.

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Gordo
Saturday, November 27, 2010 @ 1:10:42 AM

Yip, I think the option to install to hard drive is under the Options > Hardware menu item.

(It never prompted me to install to hard drive and I've got 60GB free).

I agree that the menu navigation is pretty confusing to begin with. I've been playing GT:PSP and GT5:Prologue recently so it all seems very familiar.

The cars drive fantastically! The precision you get from using a driving wheel is brilliant. Very happy with GT5.

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Highlander
Saturday, November 27, 2010 @ 1:27:18 AM

PSX has been kind enough to post my "First Impressions" review of GT5. It's in the User Review section. I'm gonna try to add a follow-up next week after more playtime, and digging into the game.

I have to say, you're 100% correct, the cars do drive fantastically.

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Excelsior1
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 @ 10:31:40 AM
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game is a dissapointment.

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