Sony: Move "Legitimately" Hard To Find

Want to give move a try. Definitely. Espeicially with the professional recognition it's received recently.

It's just... for the money... there's a couple other things I want FIRST. It's on my radar, though.

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The Move is everywhere in stores here. I haven't tried it yet, but I don't think I'm going to get one this year. It's just not my thing I suppose. I have a Wii and don't play it much. Something about a regular Playstation controller is just awesome.

I'll probably get it if it's ever on sale. Which won't be for a long time.

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Hi, you havet seen me in a while because GT5 is so fun.

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Indeed.

However, OT. lol

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It's definitely on my purchase list for xmas but that may get pushed back to next year due to GT5 currently and AC Brotherhood later on. I'm also waiting for more titles (Sorcery game is on my watch list) to be released for it.

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Picked mine up at launch. Haven't played it much in the past few weeks. Played through Heavy Rain with it which is awesome.

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Jawknee,what makes Heavy Rain so differnt with the Move?better,same,or worst?

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It's better. It adds to the immersion of the game. It's almost as if the game should have or was meant to be used with Move.

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I loved what i experienced of Heavy Rain with but I must admit I found it hard to actually play through the entire game again with it. I platinumed it so I really was pushing it to go through yet again even with an entire new interface.

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Do u have to buy DLC content to Platinum Heavy Rain?

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@ AlexanderTH3GR8

Nope. All you need the game disc and an interest in playing through the story several times, tring different things

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I'm playing it again right now, I don't think I'll ever see all the endings cuz I have a serious problem with letting any of the characters die.

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DLC is never needed for platinum. Everything you need is right on the disc from the word go.

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Apologies if this is very OT, but it's regarding the topic of trophies. I also wondered if anyone had some clarification.

I thought so about platinums too Alienange
, which I guess is generally the case. Bioshock however, has trophies regarding the Challenge Rooms in the list, so don't the rooms have to be downloaded and thus the goals met to platinum that title? I've only played through once so far though (with Trophy count currently at 40%). I guess they were added through the patch when I first installed it? Just wondering if anyone has attained 100% without the DLC.

Sidenote: Also as for trophies I find them to be a bonus and appreciated, as they can add replay value, determination and extra gratification. I don't think they're necessary though. I just started Folklore this past weekend. If you haven't played it let alone heard of it, there's a demo on the PSN. Even though it has no Trophy support, nor am I very far in the game I'm finding it very... enchanting.

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@ H8WL3R - Sony has actually starting adding a little plus sign to dlc trophies because of the very confusion you are describing.

Simply put though, no. DLC trophies are never needed for the platinum. None of them. You need them to reach 100% obviously, but the platinum pops when you complete all the trophies found on the original disc.

With games automatically being patched it was sometimes hard to determine which trophies were from the disc and which were from dlc so games now have a little + in the top left corner do indicate they are simple extras.

I hope that helps. If not you can pm me and I can help you further.

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Thanks Alienange.
I think that was clearly explained enough.

So Bioshock for example, even though those dlc trophies were automatically downloaded through the update, they are not necessary to obtain platinum, but they are to attain %100. Now to distinguish the extra dlc trophies from the original ones necessary to platinum a title, the dlc ones have a small plus sign. Also I take it the extra dlc ones are added through a patch regardless if the dlc is downloaded or not (as a compatibility thing).

Hope I'm understanding correctly. Thanks again.

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I'm afraid if buy I this I won't use it. So just waiting for the right time.

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yeah,mines collecting dust.got it for free tho.

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Nothing is free.

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From what I've seen in retail stores around me, the standalone Move wand is pretty hard to find. The PS3 Move bundle and the Move starter kit are generally always in stock. The navigation controller is generally always sitting around wasting shelf space!

As for Move's games, I'm a big fan of Tumble, and I've hear good things about Beat Sketcher. I didn't quite enjoy Heavy Rain with Move...the movements just didn't seem natural the way they should.

Anybody tried out Sly with Move?

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Something I hate about the Move developers is that they aren't trying to be creative at all. No one making a game under our radar. ALL the tech demos in E3 2009 turned into really crappy games.

Watch: the chameleon grabbing, two-hand fireball, and statue carvings will eventually make it's way into mini-games.

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To be fair we don't really know what is in development now aside from Sorcery.

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Plenty of Moves in stores around my area, but I see Amazon is temporarily out of stock.

It's certainly not on my wish list. I have nothing against motion controls. There's just nothing really worth playing with them on the PS3 yet.

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You could always play "Na na I have Move and you don't."

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"Something I hate about the Move developers is that they aren't trying to be creative at all. No one making a game under our radar. ALL the tech demos in E3 2009 turned into really crappy games."

Its only now you're figuring this out? As with all add-ons you'll never find a developer doing anything unique or creative with it other than makings clones of the tech demos shown for it. To this end this just demonstrate why things such as Move and Kinect is a waste of time and money for both developer and consumer.

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Well, that doesn't seem to be the case here. Every store that I've been in with Move has shelves full of the things. As for Move itself... I'm still waiting for that 'killer app' to rear its head.
Peace.

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Last edited by Lawless SXE on 11/29/2010 12:52:38 PM

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The Move is almost like what the PS3 was at launch: a great piece of tech, but not really enough great titles to justify a purchase. Give it a year or so, however, and I'm sure there will be enough triple A titles for it to tempt the hardcore masses.

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"that's always better than being artificially bound [laughs]."

Sounds like a sideways dig at Kinect to me :)

I'm with Lawless though, I won't be bothering until there is something that I must own. I do want everything PS3 has to offer, but the launch titles are meh. Though that's typical so I'm not worried. As far as the supply goes I believe them simply because motion gaming is a strange beast, from area to area it will depend largely on family and party gamers when it comes to popularity. Just because one area has a full shelf doesn't mean another isn't legitimately in need of resupply.

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When I was picking up the Move controllers and accessories, I had to call and go to multiple stores to get everything I needed.

So yes, it was difficult to find.

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There's none around here, and that includes some of the local big boys here, Kmart, Target, Best Buy, Walmart.

And none of my 5 local GS & EB stores have any either.
So yeah, I'd say there's a shortage, at least regionally.

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I have used it and i really enjoy it, played heavy rain and eyepet with it, can't wait for more games but for now I have plenty.

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I too need that unmissable Move title to bring me in. The only thing is, I don't LIKE motion controls very much. So no matter what game they make, and how "hard core" they think it is, I really doubt it will grab my attention or my money.

I mean seriously, has anyone else notice that Monster Hunter and Goldeneye on the Wii come with real controllers?

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If anyone asked me if they should get Move or not, I'd give them the advice to wait for the games first unless they really, really want the more or less "party games" that's released now. And I can't see how Kill Zone will change anything either. I have serious doubts that fps is the right kind of game for Move.

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Metroid Prime works great with Wii. Why can't Killzone 3 or Socom 4 do the same or better?

Your doubts are more likely due to your anti-exclusive attitude.

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Should i get this for Christmas? im 18

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I suggest you read some reviews of the available games, maybe watch some videos, then decide. Motion gaming isn't for everyone and you might just be happier with a few top quality games than a peripheral.

I'm waiting for better games to come myself. Just my two cents.

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Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 11/29/2010 7:52:45 PM

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Well while I was at Future Shop I did notice quite a few Move bundles and controllers, but then again I've been there before and there weren't any extra Move motion controllers. Same thing at other stores such as Wal-Mart. I usually see at least a few bundles, but the individual Move controller varies.

To DaK182,

Well I tend to agree with World. Do all the research you can on Move itself and the software that requires and/or supports it. I also recommend trying it in store set-up demos and friend's/family's place.

I was interested in the potential ever since E3 2009, ever before I had my PS3. Everyone else remember the tech demo at E3 '09? The day it launched and there was a tech demo at my local Future Shop I was right there to test it out (with Archery and Gladiator Duel from Sports Champions, with one controller mind you). I thouhgt it was actually impressive. Then again though I don't own a Wii (although there are a few, very few titles of interest) and perhaps may never (though I've played), I found the concept intriguing. To have something more advanced, immersive and accurate with more potential, plus HD sound and visuals on the PS3 very fascinating.

Though I was tempted to get it there and then, I held off (with some encouragement) as my birthday was approaching, followed by the holidays which are approaching. Well it turns out I received it as a bd gift (Nov. 18th) with an extra Move controller. While I was still interested and wanted to have it, I was on the fence at that point. This was due to the fact that there still isn't very much out for it (well that really demonstrates it's potential). Sports Champions is quite good imo, especially with an added controller and the option to play with others. The Shoot is also kinda fun. There's also Tumble and Beat Sketcher which I find neat, as do my niece and oldest nephew. The other one they very much like, and I find okay, is Start the Party. I did try the Heavy Rain with Move and my opinion is mixed on that. On one hand some of the motions were implemented well, and at other times they didn't feel as natural and were a little awkward. I only tried the demo with Move once so far though. Mind you all but Sports Champions, are demos on my HDD.

Pros:
-I find it functions very well with Sports Champions, Tumble and Beat Sketcher (though the demo doesn't seem to wanna let the controller calibrate anymore, hmmm...?)
-I find it functions well with The Shoot and Start the Party and some of the golf games
-Read it functions well with Heavy Rain and Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (it's gotta be Gold Edition right? well even if not it's got all the DLC in it anyway)
-Could have great potential with a possibility of great games to compliment each other (Sorcery, KZ3 and Socom 4 maybe? though I hope for a wide variety)
-The PS Eye has video/voice chat capabilities, so good for chatting and alternative mic for mp games if you have none

Cons:
-Cost, though the bundle is more economical
$112.99 Can. avg bundle price tax included
$146.87 Can. avg for PS Eye, Move motion controller and Sports Champions seperately tax included)
-Not many exclusive Move required or supported games
-Most games currently available are mostly family friendly/oriented (which could be a plus sometimes for parents, grand-parents, aunts or uncles), though I'm hoping for more T-M games to even it out
-Some of the Move required or supported games are considered just okay to bad
-Low to practically non existant support (in terms of creativity, great implemintation, continued refinemet and upgrades, fanancial)

So to summarize, yeah read and watch all you can. Try it, if there's somewhere you'd like to try it as well. If you have played Wii and/or were interested in the concept, it's kind of like that, but quite a bit better in my current experience (though at first in can be frustrating if you don't calibrate correctly). Overall I like it, glad I have it and usually have fun with it.... and yes still reffering to the Move. :-P I can totally understand why some people are/would hold off right now also.

Hope this helps.

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I see so much in retailers. Best buy target kmart gamestop.. theres so much

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really?
so thats why EB, game, JBHIFI, Kmart, target, bigW, all have whole shelves full of them?
went to EB today to see if the sly collection is finally out, and there back room is chock full of move starter kits!
sigh, what happened to the good old days where false advertising was illegal?
typical sony!

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