Move Sells 4.1 Million Worldwide

How popular is the PlayStation Move? The answer: quite.

Today, Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. (SCEI) announced that sales of Move have hit 4.1 million units worldwide (as of November). The advanced motion sensing system topped the 4 million plateau after only two months of availability in North America and Europe, and one month of availability in Japan. If you've been living under a rock, Move utilizes the PlayStation Eye and a wand "to detect precise movement, angle, and absolute position in 3D space of the user, thereby allowing users to intuitively play as if they are within the game." As of now, there are over 30 titles on store shelves that are either dedicated to Move or offer Move support as an option. This includes Sports Champions, EyePet, SingStar Dance, Resident Evil: Gold Edition, and the upcoming Killzone 3 and LittleBigPlanet 2.

Additionally, Sony has confirmed that 41.6 million PS3 systems have been sold globally (as of September) and "the system is set to record another year of success" as it enters its 5th year of existence. The combination of true high-definition gaming, Blu-Ray, solid reliability, a free online Network, a superb lineup of exclusive titles, and an agreeable $300 price tag has allowed Sony's machine to rise. And you know, it seems clear PlayStation Move will assist hardware sales; 4.1 million is nothing to sneeze at.

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11/30/2010 3:07:10 PM Ben Dutka

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:17:57 PM
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FYI- the press release was very clear in listing those numbers as SOLD, not shipped.

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Kowhoho
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:35:31 PM

Even if the press release used the word sold I have to stay incredulous that it means what you think. That's not to say it's impossible that Move passed 4 million already, but frankly I would be surprised by that figure.

Generally when any company releases sales figures they are talking about their sales to the retailers. SONY doesn't need to know how much of it has been sold to consumers. They can look at the demand that retailers are showing and get information about the consumer that way. Just saying, I can't completely buy that these are sold-to-consumer numbers.

In the end, though, it'd be just about impossible to overship THAT much so the actual figure, if not 4.16 million, should at least be close to that.

Last edited by Kowhoho on 11/30/2010 3:38:54 PM

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:00:26 PM

Not sure why you're so doubtful about bthe sales figures. even it that figure is sales to retailers (which I'm not sure it is) there are pretty regular reports that retailers are saying Move is in short supply, and therefore the sales are supply constrained. that would suggest that even if the 4.1 million move units sold is to retailers, the vast majority of those units have in fact been sold to consumers already.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:02:13 PM

Kowhoho: I believe what is sold to the retailers counts as "shipped;" what is sold to consumers counts as "sold."

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:12:13 PM

Pretty sure Sony has always considered units actually sold as sold. Not shipped.

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White_Mocha
Thursday, December 02, 2010 @ 9:59:07 PM

i don't agree Jawknee. we all know M$ counts shipped things as sold

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manofchao5
Saturday, December 04, 2010 @ 9:17:12 PM

you forgot to mention heavy rain has move support
its more worth mentioning than the silly eyepets

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JCARROLL
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:20:23 PM
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Thats pretty impressive. I haven't managed to get one yet and I'm sure there's millions more like me.

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Shadow_Ninja
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 12:52:58 AM

well yea...4.1 million playstation moves out of 41.6 million PS3's. that means about 1 of every 10 PS3 owners only own playstation move. so there's still 37.5 million like you.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:30:13 PM
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41.6 million sold as of September. Good numbers. They're selling above a everage of 10 million units a year, and entering the core years with accelerating rates of sale. I really believe that the PS3 will ultimately peak above 100 million. I remember doing a projection at least a year ago now that suggested that they could sell as many as 120 million PS3s in the end, depending on how the next three years of sales go and how quickly they decline after that.

4.1 million Moves? That's a good number. They'll continue to pile them on between now and the Christmas holiday. Sounds rather like Kinect may not be quite as dominant as $500 million worth of marketing would suggest.

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Kowhoho
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:37:07 PM

I keep wondering (worrying) that the PS3 will stop growing but it hasn't. At all.

I wonder what year it will peak in. Probably when it's sub-300 dollars. The PS2 released at 300 dollars if I'm not mistaken.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:06:02 PM

Yes, but you have to remember that the PS2 launched several years of inflation prior to the PS3, and that the PS3 arrived with an HDD which was a $150 option on the original PS2. It's a different value proposition compared to the PS2. There is also the element of the PS3 being capable of full HD playback of movies and games and 3D as well. The PS2 at launch wasn't even capable of playing dual layer DVDs, and couldn't do progressive scan modes.

All of that said, the original price of the PS3 was far too high. Personally I felt it was about $100 higher than it should have been, but the costs of production were far too large to allow a lower price at launch. $300 today is, thanks to inflation, worth less than it was at the time of the PS2. I'd say that if the PS3 get's to the $249 mark, it will peak at that price. Then again if they can somehow push it all the way to the $199 point, it will really go crazy.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 7:43:23 PM

I thought the PS2 launched at 200+ dollars?

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 11:49:18 PM

Nope, as Kowhoho said, the PS2 was $299.99 at launch.

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 1:00:18 PM

Also Sony lost about $250 for each PS3 at launch until whatever later year. Yah, Highlander now that they have the 160gb PS3 at $299 they should drop the 120gb model down to $249.

Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 12/1/2010 1:04:29 PM

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swapnilgyani
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:32:12 PM
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Wow, when I read the headline, I thought they must be talking about the number of controllers shipped. But if that's the number sold....just wow!

Thanks for the clarification, Ben.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:34:15 PM
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Dam, it's selling very well i see. I want to try it out with Sorcerer and Socom 4, as well as Killzone 3.

And any other game that might come out for it.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:07:21 PM

That sorcery game will be a big one - I think. After the absolutely awful Harry Potter game though, people may be a bit gun-shy of a magic based game.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:26:20 PM

I agree.

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ZettaiSeigi
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:34:39 PM
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What makes this even more impressive is that Sony sold as much without necessarily shoving it down everybody's throats.

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swapnilgyani
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:51:33 PM

Or getting it hacked the two days after release.

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FatherSun
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:27:31 PM

I believe that even if Sony had that absurd advertising budget available they would not market the way MS does. Sony is notorious for their ads but I have never been given the impression that I am being tricked into purchasing their products. Snake oil indeed.

@Swap. It seems that Kinects hackability is actual helping Kinect sales. I am going to hack one to flush the toilet for me.

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ABUrabad
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:34:45 PM
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sweet dude

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Riku994
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:43:22 PM
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I may get it someday, mostly for RE5. Other than that, unless a really good title gets compatibility (Borderlands or BL2 would be a seller for me) it's a maybe.

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Riku994
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:39:46 PM

I'm not really into Heavy Rain. And I don't even understand how Move would work with HR..

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:04:33 PM

It's quite simple. Gestures are required rather than button presses or analog waggles. Heavy Rain is better played with Move than the Duel Shock.

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sha4dowknight05
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 3:50:06 PM
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The move is simple to find they are all over my wal-mart and futurshops. I can't wait for mine.

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Orvisman
Thursday, December 02, 2010 @ 9:37:34 AM

And they are scarce here in northern New Jersey.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:32:51 PM
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HAHA

Microsoft went crazy with ads here in the UK..(load of properganda BS) Honestly sometimes 3 times during breaks and once they had two in a row...

Yet they sold like 2 million lool.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:06:21 PM

To be fair though, Move has been on the market a bit longer. Granted with the amount of money they spent on advertising, it's logical to assume they should have sold more. They still might if given the same amount of time.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 6:06:34 PM

$500million on marketing, it will be a total failure if it doesn't sell more than Move but at the moment it's probably selling faster.

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kraygen
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 4:38:37 PM
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I got to say I was very excited about Move and even tho I thought I'd never really get into sports champions I went ahead and bought it.

Surprisingly Sports Champions is a lot of fun, never thought I'd say that. It's really impressive that they have sold that many units considering there isn't a wide variety of good games for move right now. Sports Champions is awesome, but I'm still waiting for a lot of other games, sorcery being my number 1 move wishlist game.

I have had my move since september and I still play sports champions a few hours a week. Too cold to go outside, no problem, how about a little disc golf in the living room. Love it.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 1:14:50 AM

The Kinect has sold 2.5 million in 2 weeks, but....
I'll bet at least a 1/3 of them were bought by hackers just to interface with their programs on other non-console devices, like was already done(& shown on vids) with a Roomba vacuum cleaner.

Plus factor in that M$ is still out there throwing around their $500 million at Kinect advertising just to try & win bragging rights, and I can't see MS getting very much profit at all out of it.
Plus all the free Kinect's given out at Oprah, DeGeneres, & Boys clubs, Burger King, the Times Square launch, and other assorted places.
Since M$ counts Shipped as being sold, then I'm sure they also counted all the giveaways as sold too.

Anyway, I mean come on now, ever since MS canceled the Milo Project, there's a few hundred thousand less child molesters that will be fondling Kinect.

Last edited by BikerSaint on 12/1/2010 1:19:35 AM

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 3:16:11 AM

Another 1/3 of them were given away as one of the many marketing ploys that $500 million MS spent, paid for.

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erislocker
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 10:15:12 AM

CNN has an article on the homepage about how kinect sold 2.5 million units...

funny how move doesn't make even a fraction of advertising that kinect does yet still surpasses it by far...
pret-ty interesting.

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dirdiggler
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:18:59 PM
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Is Sony making money off the Ps3 now? Or have they been? Little behind on times here i suppose.

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Masterofallz
Thursday, December 02, 2010 @ 3:16:45 PM

Yeah they have been since the slim PS3's. Recently they reported a positive in their income instead of the usual negatives

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sonic1899
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:30:40 PM
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Actually it's units shipped not sold. According to their email to CNET, those units were sold to retailers, not to consumers... Still, very impressive numbers.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20024165-17.html

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 12:58:46 AM

That's what I read also. The 4.1 million is projecting those sales upon what has currently been ordered by the retailers, so it may actually be quite close to that.

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FatherSun
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:31:51 PM
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If Sony creates a Killer app then Move will skyrocket.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 5:35:49 PM

I have a feeling there is quite a few hold outs waiting for Killzone 3 to arrive. I know a couple.

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dkmrules
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 6:09:24 PM
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sony-ships-4-1-million-playstation-move-controllers-to-retailers/

Sorry to burst your collective bubble, but this says that theyre SHIPPED numbers

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 6:36:08 PM
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All I can tell you is what was in the press release. The word "shipped" didn't exist anywhere.

That being said, you can interpret "sold" however you please.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 11/30/2010 6:36:17 PM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 7:24:32 PM

I'm gonna go ahead and interpret "sold" as sold.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 6:37:58 PM
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Glad its a success nstuff. Hopefully it will get the Wii children into real gaming.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 7:56:54 PM

I think the move itself, because it would be weird if they did only the controller.

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Clamedeus
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 9:20:25 PM

True, but don't they have the Bundle with the controller? I can't remember what's added into it though.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 1:00:25 AM

They are counting the Move device itself, whether stand-alone or in a bundle. They do not count the sub-controller or PSEye into this tally, if they are sold seperately.
Peace.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 10:02:35 AM

@Lawless,

That's a good way to do it since there are already many millions of the PSEye already in the hands of customers, and the sub-controller is optional and it's role can be fulfilled by a standard DS3.

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H8WL3R
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 11:33:12 PM

Highlander,

True the DS3 can fulfill the Move nav controller's function, but personally when I tried using it in conjunction with the Move motion controller I found it awkward and unwieldly. Have you (or anyone else tried it) and if so, how did you or others find the Move and DS3 combo? I did try it though, only for a brief period of time for the Tiger Woods Golf demo, (although the DS3 wasn't needed often and could be set down). I also tried it for the Heavy Rain demo in conjuction with Move and felt the same (also briefly). I think I would prefer to use the nav controller for Move required/compatible games. I suppose though that the DS3 may be better used for bowling games, while holding it in the middle. I wonder if the Move motion controller would more precise and accurate though.

Thanks for your time. Later.

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FancyHuh43209
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 7:33:15 PM
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Sony didn't do any marketing for the Move either and it still out sold over the Kinect..Just goes to show you..Quality over Quantity!!! My life's moto!

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 8:38:13 PM

Kinect came out later, now it's already sold 2.5million, I'd say Kinect will catch up.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 11:50:01 PM

Short term, it might. Long term, Kinect will eat move's dust.

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___________
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 12:47:07 AM

kinect will beat the move because 1 M$ actually knows how to advertise its product, and 2 because of all the soccer moms.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 10:20:36 AM

Shouldn't they be 'football mums' to you?

;)

I'm not sure that 'Soccer Moms' are ore consumers of the Xbox 360 - even in the USA.

MS' saturation marketing may shift units, but it's like a firework. It burns very brightly, launches into the sky very quickly, then explodes with a spectacular bang before quickly fading from view and falling back to earth as spent ash. Sony's standard marketing ply (which is how they're hitting move) is more like how you get a bonfire going. First assemble the fuel, then light a few small starter burns, fan the flames for a while, and then sit back and watch the fire really get going. If you throw on a few logs every now and then, the fire can burn all night and beyond. Long after the fireworks have soared skyward and fizzled out.

Last edited by Highlander on 12/1/2010 10:25:01 AM

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CH1N00K
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 11:17:31 AM

I suddenly feel like roasting marshmellow's....

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___________
Thursday, December 02, 2010 @ 5:56:40 AM

soccer moms will go wherever they need too.
theres so many exercise games on the kinect, that will bring them over to it.
thats why the wii has sold so well, because of its family friendly appearance.
a family friend of ours wanted to get a gaming system, but his parents would not let him because the ps3 and 360 have so many MA games.
the wii did not, so they bought him one instead.
now hes sick of it, so he wants something new and his parents got him kinect because for some reason there in the mindset that if you have kinect you can only use the system for kinect games.
just goes to show how powerful and important advertisement is!

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AshT
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 @ 9:33:27 PM
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Cool, i'm having fun with move

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FancyHuh43209
Thursday, December 02, 2010 @ 6:44:26 PM

The Move is pretty bad, agreed!

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___________
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 12:46:00 AM
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thats shipped numbers, EB merrylands has at least what looks like 1M starter kits in there outback storage!
sony thought move would sell well but it has not for one simple reason.
where are the games for it?
there are very few decent games for it, and what there is the controls are pretty buggy.
time crisis razing storm or the shoot for instance.
only game so far thats worthwhile using with the move is heavy rain, by far the years best game!
if that does not get GOTY im going to go on a murderous rampage!

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 1:02:44 AM

This is probably just about the only site that I'm holding out hope for Heavy Rain GotY. It simply isn't mainstream enough for most other sites, despite them giving it awesome scores. Besides, with ME2, Halo: Reach, God of War 3 and Red Dead Redemption all pulling down high scores also... Heavy Rain is going to end up as little more than a cult classic.
Peace.

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___________
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 6:52:03 AM

its not about scores though.
to me GOTY is not only about quality its about originality.
heavy rain is the only game i have played this gen, and probably last gen where i can honestly say i have never played this before.
i mean how often is it that we get a game that creates its own genre, is so emotional makes the player cry on several occasions, and has completely different gameplay.
not only was it fun, not only was it a technological marvel it was also genre creating!
how many other games can you say that about?
if that does not deserve GOTY, than nothing does!
i know heavy rain wont get GOTY, because allot of people hated the QTE fest, and that its too niche.
but, it is so original, so well made, so polished, so new it is not the best game of the year, but one of the best games ever released!

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ZettaiSeigi
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 8:52:00 AM

I agree on this one. Heavy Rain is absolutely one of the year's best games, if not of this current generation. It's great to know that it is critically and commercially successful, and goes to show there's still a place for games that require more than just trigger-happy fingers.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 10:19:43 AM

Heavy rain sold far more copies than other more typical 'cult classic' games. Valkyria chronicles is easily a cult classic, and yet it's not even sold half as many copies as Heavy Rain has. I don't think Heavy Rain is destined for a sequel, I think that has been made pretty clear. Heavy Rain definitely has a fan following, so it may achieve cult status because of that.

But it's sold far, far more copies than many other excellent titles this generation, despite not being the most mainstream game. I think that our expectations for game sales are being horribly skewed by the hyper success of games like Call of Duty. From that point of view it actually is too successful to be a cult classic - in the classic sense...

A cult classic is often defined as a movie/book/work which achieves a devoted fan following despite not having a huge success when released. Rocky Horror Picture Show was a tiny movie that didn't get the widest theatrical release (actually it's release was curtailed and it went into a 30 year long very limited theatrical release). Yet today it's most definitely a cult classic. In fact it's in danger of losing that cult status thanks to continued mainstream attention with things like the Glee episode doing the Rocky Horror show in an episode.

Try looking up the number of games on the PS2 that had more than a million units sold. Then recheck that list for 1.5 million units sold (actually when you do look at the numbers, it's very educational considering the kinds of sales expectations people have in today's market). In that traditional sense of a production that got a devoted following, but did not achieve initial success, Heavy Rain probably fails because of the good sales it has achieved.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 12:51:25 PM

Okay, perhaps I was a bit rash in saying that. I didn't think about it clearly enough before posting, and I wasn't really comparing it to something like VC, ICO, or Firefly. What I mean is that it is a shining example of originality and quality, yet it is destined to never really capture the minds and hearts of most gamers. It may have sold a lot better than expected, but I don't think that it will really get quite the level of mainstream attention that it deserves.

And as for my comment regarding GotY and scores: I know that the score given to a game does not necessarily denote contendership. But it is a good indicator of what the source will use. And as I mentioned above, while Heavy Rain is, beyond the shadow of a doubt one of the best games of the generation because of its originality, I just see the award going to a game that has more weight and notoriety behind its name.
Peace.

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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 1:06:41 AM
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Whether units shipped or units sold (I'm thinking it is actually the former, but the results can't be too far skewed), 4.1 million units is an impressive number. Especially when you consider that that is potentially 10% of the PS3 audience. That is over two months, while the Kinect has shipped 2.5 million units in 25 days. That is, again, a very impressive number. From everything that I've seen and read, M$ seems to have the edge when it comes to the launch titles, but looking out from here, there really is nothing else, while the Move still has quite a few interesting games compatible with it.

I'll be interested to see the comparative sales figures in a years time.
Peace.

Last edited by Lawless SXE on 12/1/2010 2:03:17 AM

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 3:18:06 AM

Move has the added benefit of having a number of existing titles that now have Move compatibility. They may not count as launch titles, but they are Move capable titles none the less and tip the balance of games for each device decidedly in Move's favor.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 1:25:45 AM
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HMMMM, I'm curious to know how many PS3 bundles sold did the Move, itself, actually push all-on-it's-very-own too.

Last edited by BikerSaint on 12/1/2010 1:26:31 AM

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JJJames
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 2:03:00 AM
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The Playstation 3 has come a long way with tons of stellar video games that keep setting the bar for the generation, but also the release of Move which has set the standard for motion sensing. I think we all believed that it would get this far and it’s just half way. It was never a question of 'if' but when.

Hope no one takes offence but I just don't see Xbox 360 as Sony's no.1 competitor anymore, there just in a league of there own.

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PharaohJR
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 3:05:41 AM
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congraj Sony. lets see how much gone sell for the holidays.

i will purchase mine eventually i might get a pair for company.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 3:57:08 AM
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I'm waiting for KZ3 & LBP2 until I get mine.

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CH1N00K
Wednesday, December 01, 2010 @ 11:24:05 AM

I've got mine, but I am definitely looking forward to seeing how the Move works with Killzone 3, Socom 4 and LBP 2

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FancyHuh43209
Thursday, December 02, 2010 @ 6:46:32 PM
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If anyone here asks for a kinect for xmas, Santa will sh** in your stocking!

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Veitsknight
Thursday, December 02, 2010 @ 11:10:15 PM
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I can't play my ps3 anymore because I bought a move and my family is always on it. I want to play red dead, uncharted, and demon souls again.

Buying move was not a great idea. hahahaha!

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